tonight on r t all good things must come to an end even western dominance over the global economy it may not be a question of who will rise to dominance next but if the versity is the key that will questions about our future. and you know the saying is if you use snooze you lose well the u.s. may miss out on much needed oil of washington doesn't make up its mind about the keystone pipeline and that is because while american politicians debate environmental standards other countries are ready to make america's pipe dream their own we'll tell you all about candidates intentions.

scoring points for ron paul one video game creator is making as is how to make libertarianism cool again and you can help wrong paul two in his class to take on the fat and g.o.p. rivals all from the comfort of your tab. it's friday april thirteenth seven him here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching or to. well it's no question that the world is changing socially politically and economically and what the us and the west hanum is not as robust as they once were and emerging economies such as brazil russia

india and china rapidly growing geopolitics will look much much different than it does today but what exactly will this new world look like let me predict it will be a world where the glass no longer dominates but one author is taking it a step further with his focus on the future of diversity rather than dominance and earlier i was actually joined by that author charles caution wrote the book one no one's world and he told me about his coming global turn and gave me his predictions for the direction for girls as how to take a listen. i think three or four hundred years ago the globe turned in a sense that its center of gravity moved from the mesopotamian valley in asia north and west to europe and north america that pendulum is starting to swing again but i don't think it's swinging to china or asia it's not going to be a chinese century i think it's swinging everywhere and therefore nowhere and so for the first time in history we will be living in

a world that is interdependent globalized interconnected but no longer dominated by the west and that's why i think it will be no one's world we don't know when that moment will come when there is no longer a material and ideological gemini of the west but we know what's coming we better prepare for it and so are you talking kind of like the near future or decades from now or any idea and you don't know exactly when but any scale of that time for i think we're at the beginning of the end of a two hundred year period of western hegemony that opened in eighteen fifteen the end of the whole aeonic wars and will begin to to to move to the new era over the next decade or two and that's as you look at the numbers china will surpass the united states in global g.d.p. sometime in the next decade soon we will have a three currency world the chinese renminbi the euro and the dollar the brics

countries brazil russia india china will roughly equal the industrialized world in about fifteen years so we're starting into that period of change we will be deeply into it within about a decade now you say that there won't be any centralized power given to any one country but today we can look at a country like china which clearly is rising political e and economically will save our economy expects floating and growing so rapidly so why wouldn't you point to perhaps the ship heading towards a country like that well i think that the debate here in washington. recognizes that the power is changing where i think we are just beginning the conversation is on the ideology what does that mean and we've been living in a world where i think people thought there was one road in history the western road and everyone would end up looking the same and now i think we're starting to see different paths a chinese russian path more state capitalist political islam path in the middle

east a populist tap in latin america and i think the chinese will do very well but they will not globalize their world in part because they have assets others don't in part because they're not democratic and so they won't catch on and it's for that reason that i think no one will dominate it will be a world without a global guardian now it's pretty clear that we are seeing this economic shift but i know that you argue that you're not convinced that western ideals of democracy and secularism and capitalism you don't think that those ideas are those ideals will necessarily spread either so i think that the west rose in a unique way it was very much about the rise of the middle class it was about the reformation it pushed the church out of state it was about a secular brand of nationalism and when i look around the world i see countries

taking different paths their own path so if the west was born by its middle class china's middle class is being integrated into the state it is not the vanguard of democracy in the middle east there hasn't been a reformation probably won't be a reformation that means that mosque and state are deeply intertwined and it's those kinds of deep cultural and historical factors that lead me to believe that the twenty first century will be of a century of not a cold with their energies not everyone converging toward the western way. no the west will let this happen because let's say for example. we see what's happening with the rise of the power of china and now the u.s. is responding to that by shifting their military strategy we see more bases kind of opening up surrounding china so you do let's let this happen i think it's important that the west understand it's happening because if the view remains that the chinese the turks the indians the brazilians the russians are all going to dock at

our harbor that is to say play the western game i think we will end up in a very difficult and competitive world if the west realizes that it needs to compete respectfully in the marketplace of ideas with others then i think we may well see a twenty first century that's much more cooperative so the key is recognizing that we're at the beginning of this big change in history big change in the world and figuring out how to rebuild consensus and compromise with rising powers so now you say that this world is going to be one that is more diversified there won't be really one clear world power so with this in mind should the u.s. then stop demonizing countries like china as kind of this evil communist power. and just accept it as you know a country that is get for it politically and we should just respect that difference

because as you say our ideals of democracy and capitalism aren't necessarily spread for the rest the world so i think the united states has always been a country that tries to broadcast its ideals and it should and will continue to do that but it needs to do it in a different way it needs to stand by human rights and stand by democracy but nonetheless to to grant that there are other versions of responsible governance and responsible government governments and in that respect i think we should speak out about political repression speak out about violations of human rights by. not treat as illegitimate countries that do not practice our kinds of politics that more pluralistic and tolerant statecraft in my mind will lead to a much safer world. no i'm hearing all this and it does make sense to a certain extent but just speaking from my own experience doing some traveling to other countries third world countries you can still clearly see the influence of

u.s. culture i'll just take something like the philippines for example and you see mcdonald's you know everywhere you see a little kid singing justin bieber and you know things like that pop culture but still kind of that drive to be like america so it's clear that that separation isn't there at this point so what's your response you know i think it's important to distinguish between the appeal of american culture america's soft power and the readiness of other countries to fall of the american model in the american way and when i travel to countries around the world whether it's in south asia or east asia or russia or latin america i see countries that aspire to certain aspects of american culture but are also interested in and desiring of following their own paths building their own kind of journey and i also think it's important that the united states today along with its partners in europe and in japan are are are in

a rough patch our economies are in neutral our political institutions are struggling and that means that when emerging countries look out of the world and say who's a model works the answer sometimes is the american model but sometimes there are alternatives out there that are doing well and that i think is going to add to the diversity and pluralism that i see coming around the corner so we may see different cultures what i guess more of a mixing pot or whatever works for a particular country yeah. but instead of a end of history which is what people were pronouncing fifteen years ago i think history is getting more interesting history is getting more diverse and that's not necessarily bad as long as we recognize it and go with it and see diversity and pluralism not as a threat to the western way but it's something to be capitalized and even celebrated and to build a new cooperative assoc amid that

a realization of power and ideology all right charles very interesting thank you for very much for coming on the show that was a charles kupchak and the author of the glasses no one's of our own. and all the question over which way the world will turn in the years ahead lingers there is no doubt that one thing nations will always need is energy now whether that energy comes in the form of crude oil or wind turbines yet to be determined however in recent years the obama administration has expressed the need to cut america's foreign energy dependence on the oil from the troubled middle east one of the plant is the keystone pipeline which has been in and out of the media spotlight in recent years ago while the first pipeline first part of the pipeline was built relatively quickly plans to extend it are going nowhere fast and canada is becoming impatient so let's take a look at the current deal the u.s. has with canada. all right now the keystone pipeline stems from the city of hard to

see an alberta through steel city and that and then splits in half taking on oil to cushing oklahoma as well as potomac indiana and in recent years there have been a lot of plans to extend that line to pump more oil to the u.s. here is the proposed plan for extensions to the pipeline the seven billion dollars project is currently on hiatus since the u.s. state department ordered a review of possible alternative routes to avoid the environmental it would be environmentally sensitive sand hill regions of nebraska instead they can there morgan pipeline company is now planning to spend five billion nearly triple the capacity of its trans mountain pipeline that carries crude oil from the alberta oil sands to tankers in vancouver so all of that much sought after oil won't be flowing in our direction after all and this fact has republicans lambasted president obama over his energy policy is all of this is making for an energetic debate leading up

to the two thousand and twelve elections and all of this is proof that if the u.s. isn't willing to commit then there are plenty of other countries ready to take its place so why is canada able to pull it off but the u.s. is still holds to discuss this and more it was joined by ronald bailey author of the book liberation theology here's his take. well what happened as you pointed out is that the united states decided to delay the building of the keystone pipeline down from canada from alberta to the gulf coast united states against went basically it will find we need a market for oil sands oil and we're going to go find that market and if you don't want it the rest of the world will so we will now build a pipeline to vancouver to british columbia and start exporting oil sands oil abroad and if you americans don't want it china will want to india will want it the rest of the world will want it so that's kind of their way of saying hey we don't really need you we can take our business correct so but the reason why the pipeline

here in the us was kind of stalled these environmental concerns. they have all to the project from going there have do you think it's possible that there is too much power for environmental lobbyist's well basically what's happened is that a number of things one is yes there is too much power for in the problem of ministration for environmental lobby has basically a president had to decide which particular constituency he was going to make a green environmental lobbyist because he's coming into an election this year or he's going to make the unions and people who have constructed the pipeline angry that he decided he would get more votes by satisfy the need about a lobby that's normal politics that's what he decided to do the problem is that his decision was based on very bad science and very bad economics and he justified it on the basis that it might harm the overall aquifer in the center of the country if it should burst and so forth and yet there's very little evidence that

a great deal of harm would happen should the pipeline have a malfunction at some point. the other problem is the environmental lobby basically wants to try to isolate the oil sands after all there's the resources enormous that's one point seven trillion barrels there which using current technology you should be able to get out one hundred seventy million to one hundred psi hundred seventy billion barrels just second only to. the radios and reserve and they were trying to isolate because they don't want this war to be burned because of their concerns about global warming best they said we will stop the pipeline the indicators can't sell to anybody and now we see that that's not true the kidneys are going well we don't have to sort of america before and somebody else so you mentioned earlier how president obama kind of decided to cater to a certain constituency that constituency being the environmentalists. but now what we're seeing is gas prices going up. and it's election season and

high prices at the pump make for unhappy americans unhappy voters so not a good formula for the president is there more pressure on him now to take action with regard to the keystone pipeline. needs to be done in terms of bringing those oil prices i think that at that point he would then lose the environmental lobby he's just going to have to take what's going on but the truth of the matter is the department would not have been built in time to lower current prices of gasoline united states anyway so in a certain sense that doesn't matter of course in the politics you know the states people will. try to draw that connection but i think it's not a real one nevertheless it is a strong symbolic connection because it does indicate that the president doesn't seem to be terribly worried about what's going to happen with fuel prices in united states ok so talk a little bit more about you said it wouldn't happen in time for us to see measurable prices right now i pod anyway it's talk

a little bit about what that oil pipeline and the u.s. one do for fuel prices maybe in the long run well in the long run building it would have probably created about twenty five thousand permanent jobs would have boosted our supplies by least a million barrels a day of supply united states we're already importing to two million barrels a day from canada and eventually the idea is that twenty twenty five we would. importing from the oil sands area about three point five million essentially that would link us from any oil from any need to import oil from middle east or places like nigeria going to sway the canadian as they put it and we want to buy conflict oil that is oil from the middle east and we want to buy it is oil from canada and i think the answer is we should have people from canada now the rest of the world would be buying it now canada they are moving ahead with their very ambitious plans to expand. the u.s. can't really pull it off. so why is it that we see such this vast difference in

terms of. you know being able to get these big projects lumped. again a part of that part of it is what's wonderful is that you go if you can and i've been to canada and i've been to the oil sands are very and i reported from there and seen what's going on it's an amazingly. complicated yet clean environment and we sound operation canadian can think of it this way canadians would produce oil in a much cleaner better way than places like saudi arabia or going to sway or niger angola or any other you need the other places we might get oil so if you're really worried about the state of the environment where oil is being produced you would really differentially want to be produced in canada. and secondly i think that our regulatory regime here is being very complicated now with regards to using fossil fuels our environmental protection agency is moving regulations which are designed

to reduce our consumption of carbon dioxide our consumption of basically carbon fuels. dramatically and so they are complicating the permitting process and sort of with getting these projects done so that's part of what's stopping this so i know if canada does take their business elsewhere which it looks like that's what they're looking to do i mean what does that mean for us to rebound i lose out on you know canada that's where we get most of our oil. well that will have to bid for the rest way the rest of the world did. it would have been a snatch more secure relationship between our two countries had we just been able to have that bilateral relationship but now it it's canadian oil into the more volatile now if you will global oil market in a way that would otherwise not have been and we miss out on the jobs that we would have gotten because of the the extra oil being refined and moved to this country as well and there are these are all the issues that kind of have a kind of contributed to the controversy surrounding this pipeline the pros and

cons around it some people saying this is what we need for our country others saying you know this is going to be devastating environmentally do you think here in the u.s. but issues like these are too politicized i agree that they're way too politicized part of what's happened the united states is that we know can that our issues can be designed to be resolved through science and it basically what people. because we no longer believe much in our politicians we don't leave much in our churchmen we don't believe in our business than basically we still believe in our scientists what happens in these issues is we do politicize the science in this particular case the environmental community made all kinds of claims with regard to the harm to the environmental harm that would result from using this oil sands that are simply not scientifically backed up but they had to make them in order to scare if you will certain parts of the population into atos in the pipeline a lot of politics as at play as we often see ronald thank you very much for coming

on the show coming here to our studio that was ronald galley author of the book liberation theology goal weight of nearly over wiki leaks whistleblower julian assad is coming to our t.v. next week has a new talk show will feature interviews with powerful people from around the world r.t. laura smith gives us a preview of what to expect. the first episode of the show will be broadcast on choose day april seventeenth so that's this choose day coming and we and julian together really hoping this is going to be an explosive new show i can't tell you the name of the first guest you'll have to choose name yourselves to find that out on choose say but i can tell you that they are all opinion formers some of them this isn't and some of them have never been interviewed before on english language television the first guest is particularly controversial and according to julian in the wake of the interview highly charismatic so do you find out what that's all

about i met with him recently and i talked all about the show how he chose his guests why he decided to do it and of course he spent a lot of time sitting on the other side of the interview as desk and he told me a bit about his disenchantment really with the mainstream media and why he chose r.t. to broadcast first this show the things that we're going to report have not been covered. in the ratings. and with work. it was. gently or not this week coming up for the week in which the first show is going to be broadcast is really a week of anniversaries for him both personal and professional it's going to be five hundred days since the investigation into these allegations of sexual assault by two swedish women began now we've seen that the requests for his extradition go through the courts here in the u.k. right up to the supreme court which in that case finished at the beginning of

february that's ten weeks ago now we still don't have a verdict we are expecting it possibly to call next week but there's still no set date that verdict to be handed down and still after five hundred days no charges have been laid against him it's also five hundred days since the wiki leaks bank accounts were first frozen so that has made funding for wiki leaks very difficult and. and threatening that whistle blowing organization all together and really that's what makes this program so unique the fact that it was conceived of thought of while a soldier was virtually living under house arrest here in britain awaiting this verdict on his extradition there's two reasons first of all being on the house and that's what sort of it's nice to have an occasional visitor you want to learn more about the world and the conversations we were having a pretty interesting one i don't know but i'm sure other people were going oh that's one reason the second reason is that someone who's given

a moment before and it's been on the receiving end of a very gritty. i found that i wasn't getting much from writing. pretty quickly because he was. sort of the principal sponsor so people would take over conflicts and i wanted to have a different sort of proportion of people. and why that approach has been difficult and sometimes i think it's also six if you don't. have a real sides or very interesting or important people in that moment because they're not dealing with an interviewer if you know it was going on the house you must. have gone through political problems. so you can see the full version of that interview on monday the sixteenth of april and that will be followed hot on the heels by the first episode of the program on shoes day the seventeenth of april we're still awaiting the verdict on today not soldiers extradition but we are quite

glad that he's managed to make this program before whatever happens to him happens to him obviously his main fear has always been that he will be extradited from sweden to the u.s. . those are things laura smith reporting. well a group of ron paul supporters say they're dedicated to making liberty sexy and they plan to do this they're a video game featuring the libertarian presidential candidate is peak. it's not just below. it's easy. all in the game ron paul traverses fifty states with a message of collecting sound money and delegates and hopes of winning the presidency at taking down the federal reserve that's called the road to revolution then a lily daniel william co-founder of ron paul swag dot com is the last are mine behind the game and he joined us earlier to tell us more about it here's his take oh you

basically just. cost the city state school some money like you don't leave. the federal reserve and why did you decide to come up with a video game. it kind of just came to me as an idea should exist so you know. why should a little better why so they ron paul video game where you can exist. yes i really want to create to create it i guess is my question. i'm always looking for you to introduce me to younger generations in my own generation and. in the. mind so it just kind of came to me. really to educate people as much as possible. i guess. as much as possible so so that is your goal that so what is that we're trying to achieve with this

video game to kind of spread the ideals of ron paul and what he stands for. you know this is really really i just want to decrease and exceed. those that mean. and so i hope so you are a do you identify with being a libertarian. i would. choose it let me ok and what's interesting about this whole ron paul revolution as it's called is the protagonist in this video game the seventy six years old but your audience i'm assuming is young gamers so that's kind of goes along with the whole phenomenon behind an older candidate winning over young voters can you talk to me a little bit about that. just a cheesy secretly still beat me to grease.

grease which every penny that you can you beat you in your own video game. well i don't think it's really the issue. is that what you see he speaks to. and i think anybody who takes a sign you see what he says to see the sheer amount. all right yeah i mean he's an older guy but he has a lot of fresh ideas as a lot of his supporters say and talk about those ideas and what you find so appealing about ron paul so much that the point that inspired you to create a video game about it. a lot well i'd say honestly i was kind of right there with him before i ever even heard about ron paul's ideals and principles i was always for limited government i didn't really want to be part of politics or never really agreed with taxes or you know that sophia currencies or anything like

that so when i heard about ron paul i got very excited that there was actually somebody championing all the things that i already agreed with. so as a personal hero of mine it just became sort of an easy transition to represent as if you're a videogame missiles ok and so how how far a lot are here on this and ever. get ahold of that's ron paul rival. exam about a quarter of the way through most of the main functionality or not just at the design sea levels and do some art we're going to see music put in there. it will be free and available online i'll be releasing a link. pretty soon to the website we're going to be posted you'll also be able to play the game also i got on the free i was born a williams co-founder.