it's friday you ready to rumble joining me for today's big picture robillard brian darling director of government studies at the heritage foundation and a contributing columnist of the daily mail latoya peterson owner and editor of racial issue and contributing editor to the root dot com and it's colonies senior online editor at the daily caller let's get started. the buffett rule this is what vice president biden had to say about buffett mr. buffett rule says no one making more than a million dollars will pay a smaller share of their income taxes then middle class families to the romney rule says that the very wealthy should keep every tax break and loophole they have here and get additional new tax cuts every year that are worth more than what the average middle class family makes in a year entire year for the romney rule now here's what f.d.r.

had to say about his back in one thousand nine hundred six by way of demonstrating this is not a new argument. but one irks me my cardio citizen who believe the benefits of them are big. and they were willing. know what. they are a bit of a poet but oh boy. oh the. big. problem and roosevelt only prevailed the top tax rate went up to ninety one percent and produced four decades of stability in our economy in a growing middle class so do republicans really think they can win on a platform of tax cuts for the one percent higher taxes for the working people i think it's pretty clear the republican support comprehensive tax reform close the loopholes get tax rates down but don't do it in

a way that just raises. more money for these guys and government that just want to spend spend spend president obama inherited ten point six trillion in debt that he had from from reagan bush and bush right now. what did he do he added five trillion in debt and he can blame that on anybody but himself he signed in a decision to somebody to iraq fuel into a car that is heading toward a wall at sixty miles an hour and you slow it down to thirty miles an hour i think you're doing pretty good and you know hopefully and you start to get somebody else to start dismantling the wall it's a very imperfect metaphor the toy industry is here. so it's one of those things where it's like what kind of society do we want to build i feel like that's the huge question facing america right now and if we're not building a society that's more equitable we're going to see more and more instability we're seeing increasing it all over the world in terms of the questions of where should our global economy go and it's clear that the current system isn't working so i'm open to trying anything else including the buffett rule this if that will help restabilize our economy and allow for you know young people not to have

a future doesn't advance doesn't doesn't the buffett rule is that a raise that much money but it's about as likely as not the spirit of the times the sun so they were all in this together rather than i got mine and there may be something to that i'm not really sure of the propriety of that of doing something that simply symbolic or gimmickry as the president cited it was in his in his remarks i don't really see the point given that this is an economy that needs to be turned around i think is remember remember when you talk about fair share i mean in the clip that you played f.d.r. referenced fair share the fact is the top one percent do pay for forty percent of all tax revenue in this country so it's a question of fair share of this not certainly certainly the wealthy is sort of the year in terms of federal income tax rates that are right. exactly we're talking about so you would have to find do that but remember capital gains tax once as revenue to the corporations have gotten a lot better and they are not this is not yet a hardware how i feel much more so slightly so i walk into

a seven eleven and i. buy i buy something and then the employer takes that money and gives it is paid to that employee right now i pay taxes on that money before i bought they can parse that money has been taxed once sure that employee pays income taxes on it that employee then goes to another store buys something that employer takes that money and pays that first now it's been paid tax three times. the i.r.s. and the head of the i.r.s. and what i said we don't want to point out as if this is an insane argument he told the whole tax systems in st your argument is that the at the head of the i.r.s. just said this past week that he thought that the tax code needed to be simplified and for people to run around saying that the rich don't pay any taxes is simply absurd they're paying for everything they will after a poll of equalising from each according to his means to each according to their needs and whatever it was you know you call march i was trying to i was doing. anyway any of this week republican freshman alan west from florida had this to say

to his constituents about his colleagues at a town hall meeting. of the. communist party and what he was talking about was the progressive caucus in the house of representatives he came out later and clarified that and they'd come forward this budget for all two point nine trillion dollar investment building our infrastructure and dean the bush tax cuts for the top two percent you can them in place for the lower ranks and this is something that according to c.b.s. new york times poll sixty five percent of americans favor so do republicans really believe that most americans and most past presidents for that matter economists know that there definitely socialists i mean if you read the progressives budget and it would make karl marx very happy to read it crow marx said the definition of capitalism is to end all private property right in the in the i think that many progressives would like to take those or fleas name i want probably. one one

progressive was said we should. give you one example how about obamacare that is a federal takeover of our health care is nonsense that's if that's a federal subsidy to our for profit health insurance company which way you're definitely and as you know someone who's worked as a freelancer one of the things that you have to look at is how do we stabilize our nation we stabilize our country and if you're looking at it in terms of oh you're taking all this tax money all we want to do is redistribute wealth ok you can look at it that way but if you look at it is in terms of a stable country is better for everyone in the same way that even like asking the capital each be our place like a better to do that the government should not be it was a source that i would tell you that you're going to argue i trust no government or means a billion right no for your free market is not going to believe there is not one billionaire is going to control be a comic the free market should happen i believe are things like food and water and shelter and energy like that should not necessarily be the way in which we do things or the time when competition works and helping is a time when competition really ends up screwing everyone i must place allen west

comments in context just this very week just recently president obama used paul ryan of social darwinism so if this is not you know unique issue talon west president obama has done the same thing very recently. social darwinism is different from communism i mean i think it is name calling much like president obama called but republicans hostage takers that was in very nice language even well. all right i'll give you that. if you are a protocol that the media was dominated by a dustup this week between democratic strategist hilary rosen and and romney here's what rosen said first. you have this is mitt romney running around the country saying well you know my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues and when i listen to my wife that's what i'm hearing that's what is my possession never worked a day in her life she's she's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our

kids how do we send them to school and here's an romney's response. my career choice was to be a mother and i think all of us need to know that we need to respect choices that women make. so if republicans are now wed to the idea that being a stay at home mom is work which is an idea that i've always interest. i think most people do or stay home dad for that matter why have republicans for seventy years eighty years for every attempt by democrats to qualify that in a way that stay at home moms can be fully eligible for social security for example when they retire or other government benefits. well i mean you're want them to be stay at home moms to be eligible for government programs and the family if the ann romney considers this a career and this is a career choice why isn't she compensated for it was she shouldn't get in we're talking to my family you again lee and said he should take care of itself it's it's

a family take it so we're a single right what i want what are you do have benefits i mean most of the benefits go to families go through children are seventy two means be means we do not care so if somebody is getting benefits of any kind that does isn't considered part of their income for social security purposes unless you're ann romney and the benefit you're getting is is part of your husband's being single women don't get benefits from the federal government they get massive amounts of going so you look at not everybody wants to do women who have to live off i mean like moms rising which is a nonpartisan admission you are upset with the statement about this very controversy and talk about how for most single mothers are right if you're seven times more likely to be in poverty to be a stay at home parent right if you're a single mother or even if you're married because that hit to the income is so hard for the average family to take and there are legislative policies that moms rising outlines on their site that can be taken to help ease this burden on people who have this choice they want to stay home and raise their children and that is their

life's work or if they want to work in the career path we should be making women choose so harshly and choose what for a lot of women economic ruin but statistically stay at home moms are more affluent actually because most stay at home moms are in the traditional family structure or at least i have a husband and a spouse without a higher people making money so what i mean what we know is what we know is that families whole families that you don't have a mother and father are generally in a better economic place so there is an economic component to this you know that is it not to be that way i think it should be all family should be able to be stable and be supported regardless of what happens to the primary earner regardless of if somebody is grandmother have to come in and take care of the kids what have you it's again it comes back to the society that we're trying to create but that the grief but the reason. if you're pointing in different directions it's like you're saying if i'm getting this right what you're saying is that that people should have economic stability so they can have family stability and it sounds to me like what you're saying vince is that people who have families to ability therefore have economic stability right i mean that's everybody in this debate that we're missing

mixing up cause what you're pointing out is a classic classic examination of how liberals and conservatives view this discussion and conservatives far by far view a strong family is a strong means for economic success and we all agree that what hilary rosen said was despicable i mean just it is wrong you never worked a day in her life no good to see it the way she did as if it was a terrible thing that and romney took care of her five kids and was a stay at home mom you could see the anger dripping from her lips as she did i didn't say that anger i had the sense that i got was that she was talking about a woman who is worth a quarter of a billion dollars who could afford the very best care the very best chefs the very best you know. this you know to be using the word of reality show you know to be in her life as these. are going to be she's used it to the point was to exclude her from having the capability to say that she can argue for women she's saying you have nothing to do with women well she's a woman i mean she did she should have

a voice in this debate i don't disagree with that yes i mean that's i mean that's why it became such an aberration remember all of these fights over meaningless political commentators like rosen the fact is they become big issues because they become proxy fight for the battle of both scoring political points and also for ideologies to actually come out and probably thirty seconds will toil as well as thoughts on this i think one of the more interesting things to look at as a select southwards out is how much people try to kind of take away from these larger issues and speak more of kind of directly trying to shore up their base you know as a mom and i think our guns mitt romney is evil but it's really kind of like who is going to put our country back on track in the way in which it needs to go and i hope that everybody remembers that yeah i absolutely agree. more rubble coming up after the break.

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look for welcome back to the big picture rubble i'm joined by brian darling director of government studies the heritage foundation a contributing columnist for the daily mail that's new as an. owner and editor of racial issues and contributing editor to the wrote that and welcome if i thank you for joining us. first time and senior online editor at the daily caller vince columnists so stand around mitt romney gave a speech to the n.r.a. today back to national uproar over the n.r.a. apparently entering wal-mart corrode or played a large role in the largest gun retailer in america in this standard gun shoot first law that has radically i mean hundreds of percent in one one one state over a thousand percent increased justifiable homicides in fact we have a chart about of the states the past stand your ground laws have seen significant

increases in these so-called justifiable homicides and it's in the queue here behind us as well and so is the time that we stopped the likes of alec and the n.r.a. and wal-mart for making our laws isn't that why we elect legislators what does it stand to reason that if you need to pass a law for to allow people to stand their ground using a gun to justify a homicide would arise i mean then it becomes part of the law i mean as part of the the legal system so i don't know if the statistic means anything other than that people actually are being able to defend themselves and raise you raise the issue of if you need to pass a law or we're going to round this country's been around two hundred thirty years we haven't you know typically the old way that laws came about was there's an outcry from the people politicians heard and they did something right i don't recall and this is the whole point of my question i don't recall an outcry from the people i recall an outcry right you know the history of this is that the n.r.a. wanted to make more money selling guns and wal-mart want to makes more money selling guns and they both want to be immunized lawsuit is not like the place of

somebody like alec n.r.a. to contribute to the political discussion in that makes they shouldn't be able to i mean i got to the left progressive organizations way in on conversations like this all the time i mean the whole point of having people who actually become experts in this subject matter when they dive into the law they actually read the laws by the way they decide to advocate there's lobbyist i mean the whole idea is that intelligent people are part of this conversation i think that one. the things that's getting missed in the underground though is how broadly can be interpreted from state to state and that's where it seems like a lot of the drama is coming in there are a lot of people who are in favor of protecting second amendment laws that are not in favor of the way in which this law is being interpreted and there's a great article in time much longer the talks about how some of her work and of blasting away things that go bump in the night are actually undermining this law and the intent behind it and so you know i think that there's a lot of things that get wound up into gun policy here and it's important to have i think smarter policy as opposed to you know always trying to say well this gun law we need to always protect the n.r.a. is totally right versus you know we should have any kind of guns whenever you know

guns are here guns or in the united states and that's look at the ways in which people are using them and the different circumstances that happen if the people are responsible gun owners which you know in the most recent case the zimmerman case you see that this person was not you know if he was you know we don't know i don't know the think there's obviously there's a lot of folks who don't know but they're on the face facts are pretty conspiracy i'm sorry sir we don't need you thirty lines have already been there done training right the first thing they tell you is if you pull out and i have an entry person like you if you pull out a gun you intend to use it as a period point blank like that's not negotiable right money to your and i think that's what i'm going to do with fairness and fairness what zimmerman's family has argued in the interviews that they've done in the little information we have is that somehow trayvon was reaching for his gun while it was holstered and he decided at that point that he felt his life was threatened hold it with the intention so the idea is look i'm not defending him about it you know it was like i said well you know we've talked about this before the good bad is it we need all the facts so

we do go to my question it is because you know we just have a few a few seconds left but my question is why the n.r.a. and wal-mart making our laws i mean this is the there are always see you're going to sort of this you know this is this is a codification have been natural right of people to defend themselves that's all it is this right didn't come from wal-mart you think men are a bully it's a natural god given right this is. what you have now police officers are more restrained in. the use of their weapons that you and me that's that's wrong in my mind anyhow we got to we got to go to wrap this thing up the drudge report has become the launching pad for stories in the mainstream media and then championed the meme of iraq obama as the angry black man here's a some examples lose it is call this is just from last week not matter when he said he wanted to kick out our you know just what he was asked to care if he had a son he'd look like trayvon george zimmerman he would prob president so much hate are we going to see more of this you know what used to be called race baiting i'm

not sure if there's a more genteel term these days coming up it's sure seems to me like this is the republican strategy has been to pull for president obama well first of all the to say that matt drudge is somehow part of a big grand republican strategy seems silly to me i mean he post a picture it's a real picture he sees these are actual becomes the president for most of those publications right and he is it's also for some things from context right that's been a huge republican problem there should be a lot more voters of color in particular who want to grow up in a party there's nothing necessarily offensive about wanting to have constitutionally protected rights about limiting government the problem is that can be things that you that fly this dog with these race baiting to separate the proof is in who comes your conventions what gets talked about and how you've struggled and in some cases completely given up on ever attracting voters of color and someone said you felt them back to be used to be very very different and and i think that race baiting is unacceptable across the board and we've seen al sharpton and jesse jackson go down to florida on behalf of the left and instantly say that

the trayvon martin case was because he was black no other facts night and they were there the first week saying i don't think that is right or not even that criticism is taking us right back to drudge in my mind but but you know we're out of time vince like i did right itself something i thank you thank you and if you say. but i do want to talk about something vitally important the future of america over the last year we've seen progressive movements organize and mobilize all over the nation on a scale not seen since the civil rights of the anti-war movements in the one nine hundred sixty s. it began in the cold of winter in madison wisconsin last year when hundreds of thousands of workers stood up to fight for their rights to organize then this

movement caught fire from new york to oakland with the occupy wall street movement demanding a more equal economy we are living in transformational truly exciting times. another time much like this was just after the great depression and during the great depression in one hundred thirty six when the forces of great wealth that had crashed our economy years earlier were given trying to seize power and president franklin roosevelt who came from a wealthy family and had formerly been a rather conventional governor of new york state rallied young people across the nation by saying there is a mysterious cycle in human events to some generations much is given of other generations much is expected this generation of americans has a rendezvous with destiny i believe that today's generation of americans to as a rendezvous with destiny and this is the year with one of the most important elections in our history on the horizon with democracy in the united states on the verge of disintegration this year were profoundly shaped our destiny right now

progressives have the momentum in america and we're closer than any time in the last thirty years to rolling back reaganomics undoing decades of economic and political control by the top one percent and giving we the people a say in how the united states is run once again the only question left is can we stay together can we resist the temptations of infighting of purity tests of mistrust of each other unfortunately that still remains to be seen just like in all political movements throughout history below the surface there's growing within the progressive movement in general assembly meetings and blog posts and emails you can hear and see rifts developing on the one hand you have those who are part of the relatively leaderless occupy movement it would mobilize both against wealth inequality abuses on wall street and he has any sort of hierarchical organization be it on the left or the right it's not about left or right politics for them it's about direct action and fundamentally changing the entire system to bring about a more egalitarian nation and that's a noble cause. and on the other hand you see larger and more established groups of

groups like move on dot org an e.f.l. cod even the democratic party who see what's going on in the streets in there and see a well of vitality and activism they can bring about real political change in america so can these two groups co-exist in my opinion absolutely for years jim carpenter the guy who helped start progressive democrats of america has pursued both an outside and an inside approach to progressive change and that includes on the street activism picketing and occupy what he calls an outside strategy combined with people walking into the halls of congress lobbying phone banking and fundraising and even getting progressives to run for political office what he calls an inside strategy the most successful movements in history have combined both inside and outside strategies no one in power no one on the inside is going to stand up and be a leader for a cause unless people on the outside are pushing them to do it here's the big

secret about politics politicians are not leaders. they wait for the parade to form outside and then they jump in front of it with a flag and say hey this is my parade that's how it's always worked as van jones pointed out here last night l.b.j. wasn't supposed to be the civil rights president he was pushed into the role but pressure on the outside from the grassroots civil rights movement with the civil rights movement and others from abolition of the suffrage to any of the vietnam war taught us is that there's a natural evolution of movement strategies first occupiers start occupying lunch counters engaging in civil disobedience and getting in the streets then light minded more established organizations see what's going on and organize marches and rallies and bring the issue to the forefront of the media putting pressure on lawmakers and then sure enough legislation is introduced and ultimately passed. victory is only achieved because both inside and outside strategies are operating

simultaneously and progressive victories for america will be achieved in the exact same way those leaderless outside groups started this movement by occupy getting pepper sprayed in the streets and beaten by the police and then the more established groups joined in to organize larger rallies to inject more resources and funding into the movement and carry the message forward and already politicians are listening and introducing legislation based on what they're hearing in the streets that is where we stand today one election away from achieving either main maintaining our mom or momentum and seizing or seen it all take a giant step backwards keep that in mind as we move forward if you want to be the person of the streets or the wall street accountable and facing off against the institutions of power and good i knew this movement needs you and if you want to be the person working on the insides meeting with elected officials running for office fundraising and good on you to true progressive change in america needs our workers

both on the outside and the inside those without leaders and those who work in more established venues we all need to win so let's get back to work this year to create an america that once again works for all of us. that's the big picture for tonight more information on the stories we covered visit our website arbonne dot com free speech that organizer to dot com also check out to you tube channels or a link to tom hartman dot com also a time when i call you can check out all the different ways you can send us your feedback and we have a free i pad and i phone app. blogs chat with all kinds of just great great pleasure and don't forget democracy begins with you inside strategy outside strategy running for office marching in the streets right in the blogs call the new tarp radio writing op eds whatever it may be get out there and get active your seat actually.

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