tv [untitled] April 16, 2012 9:00pm-9:30pm EDT
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but. longtime are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture a recent washington post a.b.c. news poll finds that a full reality of americans forty five percent now disapprove of the tea party so what does this mean for mitt romney and for the tea party in american politics we'll ask judson phillips founder of tea party nation also the emergence of a stablished activist organizations is upset some within the leaderless occupy movement are stablish groups needed for a successful revolutionary movements what does a future look like for progressive revolutions in america and allen west told his
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constituents last week that communists are running amok in the halls of congress. and the rest of americans know about the real role of the communist party in america was the vice chairman with bob and his party usa. you need to know this the buffett rule was put to a vote in the senate today and even though a majority of senators supported the proposal to make millionaires and billionaires like warren buffett mitt romney pay at least the same tax rate as working americans the buffett rule fail it failed because republicans almost unanimously filibustered the bill preventing the sixty votes supermajority needed to pass anything in the senate now it is currently america's super rich like mitt romney take advantage of loopholes created by the bush tax cuts among others and paid far lower rates than
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even a lot of middle class americans making the romney rich pay their fair share of taxes has been a rallying call by both democratic and republican presidents throughout history from franklin roosevelt. one erst been a majority of. them but we're. going. to work. on the other. group. you don't benefit. from roosevelt to ronald reagan. we're going to make it economical to raise children again flatter rates will need more reward for that extra effort and vanishing loopholes in the minimum tax will mean that everybody in every corporation pay their fair share to now barack obama. this is the land of
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opportunity that's great i'm saying is that those who have done well including me should pay our fair share in taxes to contribute to the nation that made our success. unfortunately now that the rules of the senate have been changed by the republican minority to require sixty votes to pass as anything no tax reform will pass the upper chamber and now the wealthiest house of representatives in history was elected with over three hundred million dollars in corporate spending in two thousand and ten multimillionaires paul ryan eric cantor and john boehner refused to consider any sort of tax increases because multimillionaire lobbyist grover norquist won't let them and even though the buffett rule failed today expect this issue to keep coming up again and again and again over the next few months as president obama hammers mitt romney over romney's refusal to pay his fair share of taxes and a bit romney hoped he could turn to the tea party for help maybe he hopes wrong
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mitt romney may be the republicans guy for president but it looks like he may not be the tea party's guy in an interview with a conservative daily caller the party nation leader judson phillips had a message for the presumptive nominee saying the tea party is not going to coalesce around romney most of us will vote for romney but we will not be out there with signs for him or his campaign course after romney shakes the etch a sketch and portray himself as a moderate against president obama in the general election then even the tea party vote smart idea here and but this may have an upside for romney a recent washington post a.b.c. news poll finds that a plurality of americans forty five percent now disapprove of the tea party and the more americans hear about tea party policies like and social security the more they dislike it so what does this mean for mitt romney in the tea party in american politics moving forward that's in philips joins me now to offer his take he is the founder of tea party nation judson welcome tom thank you for inviting me to meet you in person like what i saw thank you what can mitt romney expect from the tea
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party. a good question he can expect a little bit of support i mean the tea party does not like barack obama's policies so we've got two choices this year it's obama or it's romney well if we don't like obama we don't have many other choices but what we're looking for in the tea party what we're really looking at are the. house and senate races because i've described mitt romney as a soulless technocrat and i think that's a pretty good description of the man he really don't have any leadership so if we get a good conservative senate get a good conservative house we're hoping that congress can actually lead romney instead of the other way around and then and then start taking apart programs like medicare and social security turn them over to the banks and insurance what if list let's start with the government the g.a.o. the general accounting office stars aren't you are we have people you know we have people right last year the greater part yeah absolutely last year the government the general accounting office said there were hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud waste and duplication of services are here's a pop quiz for you here's a question do you like fraud in government you like what the g.s.a.
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guys did in las vegas i don't i'm pretty outraged about it i'm frankly a lot more concerned first of all we we know that there are people looking for that fraud waste and it's you are and there's a whole legion of conservatives out there who if you could find it you would publicize it you and i both know that if you could identify any fraud waste or abuse any of those six hundred dollars toilet tops like you know what's his name gave a golden fleece award you're alan fox not going to get back years ago that it would be all over the top of the drudge report but what about the health insurance companies where you've got a c.e.o. a united health care two different c.e.o.'s have made over a billion dollars i did a billion dollars as a c.e.o. when every single dollar that you made you make from saying to some kid no sorry you can't have the operation is going to save your life. you know and you want to say you want to you want to hand medicare over to the aca insurance companies even insurance companies do not make money by automatically denying people coverage you
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know there's they don't make money by paying claims in fact they call claims medical loss yet but here's the thing if they denied everybody their coverage company would buy health insurance so i mean that that's kind of so they so they provide the least worst possible scenario they provide whatever it is evil why would you why would you want to take and it's not just health insurance health insurers. education when there's all this talk of a lift up of education record to america constantly rates lower and lower every year on education education is a disaster bill bill because it was put in as the head of the department of patient in the recent history of those on a platform of let's destroy education in the united states this goes back to ties this goes back to the sixty's when the teachers' unions will he became ascended so instead he had when reagan came into office we had some of the best educational outcomes in the world look it up i have to look it has steadily declined since since the reagan revolution since bill bennett went in there who ran for president on the platform of destroying the department of education so ronald reagan put him in charge of the department of education excellent idea it department of education
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came about as a payback from jimmy carter for the national education association art of education of people came about because in poor parts of this country there was there were no money there was no money in there were no resources to meet the educational needs of children the supreme court had ruled that it's a right not a privilege to be educated and what is the department of education done for us since we nine hundred seventy nine creation of the department of education educational scores have constantly gone downhill since that that all we have this is untrue as a sheet of education but we don't we actually have no child left behind what's race to the top and what i thought no child left behind is something that i think you and i agree is a is a better israel well it's not just that it failed i mean it was a program that was put together by george w. bush to make his brother neil a multimillionaire and it did what it did was it you know teachers used to do the tests themselves with five cents for the paper copy machine and now they're going to buy him from the bushes company for forty nine dollars but look look at the educational model that we have is the same thing we've had for one hundred fifty years and people you have if you're poor it's the same thing we've had since
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socrates if if you are poor or even if you're middle class you go to the government school that has a geographical area this is you know if you live in x. zone you're going to go to this school no will other choice here's a great idea let's privatized education let's give every family out there from the rich to the poor you have excellent. the education companies can become billionaires like the head of the health care health insurance spin off the schools into small pieces and let them compete for the drugs and we're doing that right now and where and. schools and their motions in just a drop in the bucket judson a child is a privilege and a pleasure as many like it without thought as we we could have done this for a while we really get this stupid as i said at the opening the show the buffett rule likely won't overcome a republican filibuster in the senate anytime soon this is a major issue for the twenty five election and for our economy if the media doesn't seem to think so they're hardly covering it here's the bigger picture about the buffett rule and about you know the media in general what about the one point three trillion dollars we spent on
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a decade of war in iraq afghanistan judson was talking about waste and and and fraud try checking out the pentagon budget they're missing two point three trillion dollars they've lost it two point three trillion if the pentagon can't account for all of the eighty billion dollars in the bush tax cuts for the for the romney rich or the wall street stuff the seven trillion dollars during the economic meltdown is anybody talking about that how much of that ended up with goldman sachs or j.p. morgan jamie dimon how much what about the forty billion is lost every decade in oil subsidies or about the two and a half trillion in wealth sucked out of our country over the last thirty years thanks to so-called free trade what about the trillions that republican presidents reagan bush and bush add to our national debt how come they never point that out what about the two trillion dollars of infrastructure debt since right republicans starve the beast of government in the one nine hundred eighty s. we basically haven't built any infrastructure since then what about the two trillion dollars in damage to our oceans the climate change will cost in coming
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decades we have a multi hundred billion and trillion dollar program the problem facing the united states is a series of them across a whole broad spectrum problems that require immediate attention and problems many of them are a direct threat to our nation but what is our corporate media our politicians on the right what are they focused on. beginning here these are live pictures this committee capitol hill is looking into how the general services administration or the g.s.a. eight hundred thousand dollars your dollars taxpayer dollars in a word here in some of these posts both now former and current g.s.a. it seems remorseful apologetic as they're going on down the road here down the g.s.a. here's the back story they spent this eight hundred grand i videos and many other high dollar items at a las vegas conference a conference happened in two thousand and ten that's right forget about the two point three trillion missing from the pentagon let's talk about the eight hundred thousand missing from the g.s.a. or just badly spent or let's talk about the secret service agents getting on with
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workers. we're also getting new poll out today from the secret service sex scandal were agents and members of the military stand accused of hooking up with prostitutes during the president's trip to colombia now not only raising concerns about the president's security but also about our national security the drudge report and far so-called news have been brought you in particular has been the assignment editor for the mainstream media for over a decade it's time to wake it up and wake up from it corporate media doesn't want to talk about the real problems because it might hurt corporate profits war profiteers lose it people are focused on the trillions missing and on the ground budget oil barons lose it people are focused on the trillions in taxpayer oil subsidies banks to lose of people are focused on the seven trillion dollars that the middle class millionaires and billionaires lose that people are focused on the money ways to do the bush tax cuts republicans lose and people are focused on which party ran up most of our debt the media should be reporting on the real problems
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facing this nation and not the manufactured ones brought to us by republican political operatives. after the great groups like the ninety nine percent springer try to train thousands of americans in nonviolent activism to drive it's upsetting many of the leaderless occupy movement which is needed for revolutionary movement to succeed and is the future looking bright purple rose of revolution in america.
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last week i use my daily take to send a message the progress is around the nation about how important it is to stay united this year and not let in fighting terror tear us apart take a look. lardy the person on the streets all the wall street accountable and facing off against the institutions of power and good on you this movement needs you and if you want to be the person working on the inside meeting with a like that officials running for office called raising and good on you to true progressive change in america needs of us both on the outside and the inside those
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without leaders and those who work in more established venues all need to win. so back last week the ninety nine percent spring sponsored by a more established groups like move on dot org and several labor unions taught tens of thousands of activists across the nation nonviolent activism techniques but the participation of these established organizations has ruffled some feathers within the apparently leaderless occupy movement that fears co-option in an article for alter net last week sarah robinson tried to calm the fears of the occupy folks by writing about what all revolutionary movements need in order to succeed joining me now to talk more about this and the future of a progressive revolution in america is sara robinson social futurist and editor at alter net visions sarah welcome had time to be here thank you for joining us your article talks about the six people needed to start a revolution let's go through them activists. activists write in this is what
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occupied russia the party that we've been very sure of for very long time so it's good to have them here oh i we haven't really had people who knew how to turn people out in the streets in big numbers how to keep them there keep them engaged tell a story that the media and the american people would we would really be grabbed by so we are glad to have them on the scene because it's been a long time since we've seen ones of this quality instrument ok and in addition activists we need intellectuals absolutely people like you and me people who write in pink who blog who are you theorists academics people who do the research and i can talk through think through what kind of change we really want to see what kind of policies we need to act philosophical basis. the kind of language that we use it with the people who can't do the hard academic work that undergirds everything else will be ok we need artists right because the intellectuals who who figure out what story we need to tell or who figure out the map usually aren't very good at
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communicating those stories to tell our people and we have these compelling cultural technologies if you will which good things like poetry and music and art and dance and all the movie making and all these wonderful ways that really grab people by the cats and get them motivated to go forth and put their lives on the line and do what we do to make the sacrifices necessary that will really really a notch the well you can't do it with people who tell it to give you the name for when you do it and the next three groups or at least two of the next three groups are the ones that i've seen some you know blog post some articles pushing back against insiders greats yeah occupies having a very hard time because a lot of the people they see affiliated with a ninety nine percent strain they see is insiders which of course comes to news it comes as news to a lot of these groups who feel like they're very much on the outside but they are people who work inside the beltway who have been around washington a long time and know how the sausage get gets made they know who are calling who to talk to where the levers of power are. and these are our scouts and spotters the
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ones who really understand the system well enough to let us know if our strategies are going to work or not she tipped us off when there's an opportunity that if you don't know the system you might miss and we're a little nervous about these people and sometimes we should be because we don't quite know where their loyalties lie but at the end of the day you need with you know about this system if you're going to snap that system and support of elites we had on the program for example a couple of weeks ago ben cohen he had given some money to fund one of the programs out of occupy and he got a lot of blowback are absolutely and that marks marks himself said that that the cheering the turning point in any revolution is when you get to subject elites and the people who should be be being well supported by the system as it exists but whenever you have a country that starts the revolution your intellectual the intellectual class professional classes the what a lot of the wealthy are cut out and you see this kind of corrupt financialization it in any country that's that's going on on the revolutionary side and so there be
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people who should be in power by kids i mean heritance or by tremendous massive talent or skill and yet they're being cut out and when those people wake up and join the revolution that changes everything because they have tremendous resources to bear and they know how to counter attacks they have the money they have the influence they can go it into their can like the insiders the connected. and when they bring what they know to the revolution it's generally when things will take up and then you need of course the masses that's when the right it's the tipping point right you don't have a mass movement without the masses and i think that's the thing that some occupy leaders right now are having a hard time with because they put in such hard work for the last six months and they've done so much and the idea that all these other people are going to come on board and bring all these other skills and resources and priorities is a little hard for them to digest right now but if you're going to have them as we need it you have to have an open source you have to make it easy for anybody to walk in to make themselves comfortable in
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a. will find their place and give what they have to offer there have been i think your spear six groups or six kinds of people are well represented for example in the american revolution and arguably not even arguably very well represented in things like the abolition movement the suffrage movement the civil rights movement on the other hand the french revolution which kind of went the wrong way what was it missing. what it was actually had all the pieces it had a tremendous electoral base it had activists it had people in the streets what it also had was ropes here who got very paranoid about it but about cooptation and the historical fact is that the majority of the people who went to the guillotine were revolutionaries themselves it wasn't here mr pratt's it was the chair of his robes here stripping down his revolution looking for anybody he thought might try to co-opt or lead it so security can state and this is what happens to you can lose a revolution as glorious as the french one was you can use it utterly if you get
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too nervous about who owns it who gets to set the agenda he's really in control. here managed to chew even acknowledging yards measure and taste and yet yada yada before he knew it he himself was on the block and it's on him that you know sarah robinson you are brilliant thank you so much thank you china as i said last week this movement needs both outsiders on the streets and insiders in groups like move on and even in congress to succeed so let's get to work all of us outsiders and insiders to make this happen. our first comments and i come some day out opposed to our tom hartman facebook page here was his suggestion on how to create change in america he wrote mass protests with millions of people participating is the only way to change the discourse in america we all must stand up and speak out because if we can because we don't have
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billions to throw at politicians you're right and you're absolutely right nothing happens until the people get involved and sit around waiting for where's the great political leader when is the president going to become the or when is the member of congress or when's the. fill in the blank ones david letterman you know it it's never going to happen politicians entertainers phil and everybody they follow the people so it takes it's going to take all your it the next comment of the night comes from a grandmother in northbrook illinois called in to our viewer rant line and had this reaction to our piece last week about fascists in congress. here i am grandmother from illinois i am watching you bravo bravo you did or to bring up this obvious fascist. dentist running our
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country i can't come in to him now it's bravo for you communists in the. joe mccarthy. and the way that's the lot to you think you. and thank you i think you know it's what's particularly ironic about that is that i wasn't calling out the fascists as it were in the you know using the george bush administration or using the abuses that happened in two thousand after after nine eleven as my example i was quoting the vice president of the united states from one hundred forty four and he was you know the roosevelt's vice president and he was asked by the new york times to write an op ed about fascists in america and he basically you know said here they come look out and this is how you'll see them and it sure looks like that to me right now our final comment in one comes from don who
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watches the big picture in new zealand he had this take on the republican party because i've watched the big picture for several weeks and congratulate you on a clear statement of many important issues although i consider myself a conservative voter i fear the extreme positions taken by the republican party right remind me more and more of the excesses of eighteenth century france i'm now waiting for a new romney campaign slogan i think is that it will be let them eat cake. perhaps i am. concerned more about the factionalism within the party and my biggest concern frankly is what the supreme court has done to the united states with this bizarre doctrine that money is not property but it's speech and the corporations are not. corporations that they're people and as long as this is in place it's going to be really difficult for we the people whether we be conservatives progressives tea partiers whatever it may be to really assert any kind of genuine
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populist ground action and i think frankly without that we're going to have a real problem thanks a lot don for letting us put our flag on your great nation new zealand you'd like to help us out help us put a flag and one of the other one hundred countries the big picture airs on and listen up. we want to know your to send us your comments by visiting the tom hartman facebook page by a twitter at tom underscore her or in the chat room on the message boards or through the blog at thom hartmann dot com you can also leave a message on our rant line at two to three six fifty three zero six agree disagree sound off its all welcome remember that your comments may be used on the ear. crazy alert that's one fishy fear or ever since hitler's demise people all over the world of claim to see his likeness in everything from light switches to putting covered babies is even a website for people to share their cats striking similarities together theories
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and now a new look alike has emerged meet george the goldfish that's right george recently developed a tooth brush mustache like marking above his upper lip making him look very similar to hammer with a similar result and of their reading to owner deborah cox cochrane george won't eat fish food will only eat vegetables similar to hitler's own dietary choices and car princes georgia often has a fin raised upwards like hitler's infamous salute whatever former world dictators are swimming around in the world's fishbowl. coming up after the break republican congressman allen west turned heads last week when he said members of congress were actually communists find out just how misguided his views are on communism the last one of the leaders of the days american communist party.
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