tv [untitled] April 16, 2012 11:00pm-11:30pm EDT
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longtime arbonne in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture a recent washington post a.b.c. news poll finds that a for rally of americans forty five percent now disapprove of the tea party so what does this mean for mitt romney and for the tea party in american politics were asked judson phillips founder of tea party nation also the emergence of a stablished activist organizations is upset some within the leaderless occupy movement or stablished groups needed for successful revolutionary movements what does a future look like for progressive revolution in america and alan west told his constituents
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last week that communists are running amok in the halls of congress. and the rest of americans know about the real role of the communist party in america was the vice chairman of the communist party usa. you need to know this the buffett rule was put to a vote in the senate today and even though a majority of senators supported the proposal to make millionaires and billionaires like warren buffett mitt romney at least the same tax rate as working americans the buffett rule failed it failed because republicans almost unanimously filibuster the bill preventing the sixty votes supermajority needed to pass anything in the senate now it is currently america's super rich like mitt romney take advantage of loopholes created by the bush tax cuts among others and pay far lower rates than
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even a lot of middle class americans making the romney rich pay their fair share of taxes has been a rallying call by both democratic and republican presidents throughout history from franklin roosevelt. one erst been a. real. benefit. and they were doing. and on the other earth been a. group. but the big big big. eight . race from roosevelt to ronald reagan. we're going to make an economical to raise children again flatter rageful need more reward for that extra effort and vanishing loopholes in the minimum tax will mean that everybody in every corporation pay their fair share to now barack obama.
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this is the land of opportunity that's great all i'm saying is that those who have done well including me should pay our fair share in taxes to contribute to the nation that made our success possible. unfortunately now that the rules of the senate have been changed by the republican minority to require sixty votes to pass anything no tax reform will pass the other chamber and now the wealthiest house of representatives in history was elected with over three hundred million dollars in corporate spending and twenty multi-millionaires paul ryan eric cantor and john boehner refused to consider any sort of tax increases his multi-millionaire lobbyist grover norquist won't let them and even though the buffett rule failed today expect this issue to keep coming up again and again and again over the next few months as president obama hammers mitt romney over romney's refusal to pay his fair share of taxes and a bit romney hoped he could turn to the tea party for help maybe he hoped wrong
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mitt romney may be the republicans crying for president but it looks like he may not be the tea party's guy in an interview with a conservative daily caller the party nation leader judson phillips at a message for the presumptive nominee saying the tea party is not going to coalesce around romney most of us will vote for romney but we will not be out there was signs for him or his campaign course after romney shakes the etch a sketch and portrays him soft as a moderate against president obama in the general election then even the tea party vote smart not be a guarantee anymore but this may have an upside for romney a recent washington post a.b.c. news poll finds that a plurality of americans forty five percent now disapprove of the tea party and the more americans hear about tea party policies like ending social security the more they dislike it so what does this mean for mitt romney in the tea party in american politics moving forward that's an phillips joins me now to offer his take he is the founder of tea party nation judge them welcome tom thank you for inviting me to meet you in person like what i thought thank you what can mitt romney expect from
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the tea party. a good question he can expect a little bit of support i mean the tea party does not like barack obama's policies so we've got two choices this year it's obama or it's romney well if we don't like obama we don't have many other choices but what we're looking for in the tea party what we're really looking at are the. house and senate races because i've described mitt romney as a soulless technocrat and i think that's a pretty good description of the man he really don't have any leadership so if we get a good conservative senate get a good conservative house we're hoping that congress can actually lead romney instead of the other way around right and then and then start taking apart programs like medicare and social security turn them over to the banks and insurance what is let's let's start with the government the g.a.o. the general accounting office like the government you are we have people you know we have people right last year to go to your part yeah absolutely last year the governor general accounting office said there were hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud waste and duplication of services are here's a pop quiz for you here's
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a question do you like fraud in government you like what the g.s.a. guys did in las vegas i don't i'm pretty outraged about it i'm frankly a lot more concerned first of all we we know that there are people looking for the fraud waste of these you are and there's a whole legion of conservatives out there who if you could find it you would publicize it you and i both know that if you could identify any fraud waste or abuse any of those six hundred dollars toilet tops like you know what's his name gave a golden fleece award you are alan fox markel approximately i get back years ago that it would be all over the top of the drudge report but what about the health insurance companies where you've got a c.e.o. a united health care two different c.e.o.'s have made over a billion dollars i mean a billion dollars as a c.e.o. when every single dollar that you made you made from saying to some kid no sorry you can't have the operation is going to save your life. you know and you want to say you want to you want to hand medicare over to the aca insurance companies even insurance companies do not make money by automatically denying people coverage you
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know there's they don't make money by paying claims in fact they call claims medical loss yet but here's the thing if they denied everybody their coverage somebody would buy health insurance so i mean that's kind of so they so they provide the least worst possible scenario they provided by a reuters the bill why would you why would you want to take and it's not just health insurance health insurers. education i mean there's all this philosophical melissa lost through education record to america constantly rates lower and lower every year on education education is a disaster bill bill that was put in as the head of the department of patient in the recent history of those on a platform of let's destroy and education the united states this goes back to ties this goes back to the sixty's when the teachers' unions really became ascended so instead he had gone reagan came into office we had some of the best educational outcomes in the world look it up i have to look it has steadily declined since the reagan revolution since bill bennett went in who ran for president on the platform of destroying the department of education so ronald reagan put him in charge of the
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part of education excellent idea it department of education came about as a pet as a payback from jimmy carter to the national education association art of education to people out there came about because in poor parts of this country there was there were no money there was no money in there were no resources to meet the educational needs of children the supreme court had ruled that it's a right not a privilege to be educated and what is the department of education done for us since we nine hundred seventy nine creation of the department of education educational scores have constantly gone downhill since that that all we have is centralization of education now we don't we actually have no child left behind which race to the top and i thought no child left behind is something that i think you and i agree is it is an epic israel well it's not just that it failed i mean it was a program that was put together by george w. bush to make his brother neil a multimillionaire and it did what it did was it you know teachers used to do the tests themselves with five cents worth of paper ticket machine and now they've got to buy in from the bushes company for forty nine dollars to put look look at the educational model that we have the same thing we've had for one hundred fifty years and people you have if you're poor it's the same thing we've had since socrates if
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if you are poor or even if you're middle class you go to the government school that has a geographical area this is you know if you live in an exit zone you're going to go to this school no will other choice here's a great idea let's privatized education let's give every family out there from the rich to the poor you have excellent. the education companies can become billionaires like the head of the health care health insurance spinoff the schools into small pieces and let them compete for the drugs and we're doing that right now and where and where i would start schools and they're not sure who's interested drop in the bucket judson a child is a privilege and a pleasure meeting it without a thought is that we we could have done this for a while we really be this stupid as i said at the opening the show the buffett rule likely won't overcome a republican filibuster in the senate anytime soon this is a major issue for the two thousand and twelve election and for our economy if the media doesn't seem to think so they're hardly covering it here's the bigger picture about the buffett rule and about you know the media in general what about the one point three trillion dollars we spent on
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a decade of war in iraq afghanistan judson was talking about waste and and and fraud try checking out the pentagon budget they're missing two point three trillion dollars i've lost it two point three trillion if the pentagon can account for all of the eighty billion dollars in the bush tax cuts for the for the romney rich what about wall street stuff the seven trillion dollars during the economic meltdown is anybody talking about that how much of that ended up with goldman sachs or j.p. morgan and jamie diamond how much what about the forty billion is lost every decade in oil subsidies or about the two and a half trillion and well sucked out of our country over the last thirty years thanks to so-called free trade what about the trillions that republican presidents reagan bush and bush added to our national debt how come they never point that out what about the two trillion dollars of infrastructure debt since republicans starve the beast of government in the one nine hundred eighty s. we basically haven't built any infrastructure so that what about the two trillion dollars in damage to our oceans the climate change will cost in the coming decades
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we have a multi hundred billion and trillion dollars problem facing the united states a series of them across a whole broad spectrum of problems that require immediate attention and problems many of them that are a direct threat to our nation but what is our corporate media our politicians on the right what of a focused on. beginning here these are live pictures this committee on capitol hill is looking into how the general services administration or g.s.a. spent eight hundred thousand dollars your dollars taxpayer dollars in a word here in some of these posts both now former and current g.s.a. if he was remorseful apologetic these are going on down the road here now the g.s.a. years the back story they spent this eight hundred grand videos and many other high dollar items at a las vegas conference a conference happened in twenty ten that's right forget about the two point three trillion missing from the pentagon let's talk about the eight hundred thousand missing from the g.s.a. or just badly spent well let's talk about the secret service agents getting on with
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workers. we're also getting you paula today from the secret service sex scandal where agents and members of the military stand accused of hooking up with prostitutes during the president's trip to colombia now not only raising concerns about the president's security but also about our national security. the drudge report and far so-called news have been brought you in particular has been the assignment editor for the mainstream media for over a decade it's time to wake it up and wake up from it corporate media doesn't want to talk about the real problems because it might hurt corporate profits war profiteers lose it people are focused on the trillions missing and you and i got oil barons losers people are focused on the trillions in taxpayer oil subsidies banks to lose people are focused on the seven trillion dollars that the middle class millionaires and billionaires lose that people are focused on the money ways to do the bush tax cuts republicans lose it people are focused on which party ran on most of our debt the media should be reporting on the real problems facing this
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nation and not a manufactured ones brought to us by republican political operatives. after the break groups like the ninety nine percent spring are trying to train thousands of americans in nonviolent activism a drive that's upsetting many of the leaderless occupy movement what is needed for revolutionary movement to succeed and is the future looking bright for progressive revolution in america. wealthy british style sun. that's what i'd like. markets finance. find out what's really happening to the global economy
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last week i used my daily take to send a message to progresses around the nation about how important it is to stay united this year and not let in fighting terror terrorists a particle would. want to be the person of the streets all the little street accountable and facing off against the institutions of power and good on you this movement needs you and if you want to be the person working on the inside meeting with elected officials running for office fundraising and good on you to true progressive change in america needs all of us both on the outside and the inside
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those without leaders and those who work in more established venues all need to win back to last week the ninety nine percent spring sponsored by a more established groups like move on dot org and several labor unions taught tens of thousands of activists across the nation nonviolent activism techniques but the participation of these established organizations has ruffled some feathers within the apparently leaderless occupy movement that fears co-option in an article for alternate last weeks or robinson tried to calm the fears of the occupy folks by writing about what all revolutionary movements need in order to succeed joining me now to talk more about this and the future of a progressive revolution in america is sarah robinson social futurist and editor at alternate visions sarah welcome and time to be here thank you for joining us your article talks about the six people needed to start a revolution let's go through them activists. activists right then this is what
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occupy brought to the party that we've been very sure of for a very long time so it's good to have them here ok we haven't really had people who knew how to turn people out in the streets and big members how to keep them there keep it engaged tell a story that the media the american people we would really be grabbed by so we're glad to have them on this team because it's been a long time since we've seen when's of this quality instrument ok and in addition activists we need intellectuals absolutely people like you and me people who write you think who blog who are here a second term explain who do the research and i can talk through think through what kind of change we really want to see what kind of policies will lead to an active philosophical basis the language kind of language that we use the people who can't do the hard academic work that undergirds everything else and that we talk and we need artists right because the intellectuals who who figure out what story we need to tell to figure out the map usually aren't very good at communicating the stories
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teaching our people and we have these compelling cultural technologies if you will which get things like poetry and music and art and dance and all the movie making all these wonderful ways that really grab people by the cats and get them motivated to go forth and put their lives on the line and it would make a big sacrifice is necessary it will really really launch the movement you can't do it with people who tell it to give you great meaning for when you do it and the next three groups or at least two of the next three groups are the ones that i've seen some you know blog post some articles pushing back against insiders graduates yeah occupies having a very hard time because a lot of people they see affiliated with a ninety nine percent spring they see is insiders which of course comes to news that their actions is news to a lot of these groups who feel like they're very much on the outside but they are people who work inside the beltway who have been around washington a long time and know how the sausage get it's made they knew who to call and who to
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talk to and where the levers of power are. and these are scouts and spotters they're the ones who really understand the system well enough to let us know if our strategies are going to work or not to tip us off when there's an opportunity that if you don't know the system you might miss and we're a little nervous about these people and sometimes we should be because we don't quite know where their loyalties lie but at the end of the day you need with you know about this system if you're going to snap that system and support of elites we had on the program for example a couple of weeks ago ben carney had given some money to fund one of the programs out of occupy and he got a lot of blowback for that absolutely but mark's mark's himself said that the turning the turning point in any revolution is when you get disaffected elites and the people who should be he being well supported by the system as it exists whenever you have a country that's right for revolution your intellectual intellectual class professional classes there were a lot of the wealthy are cut out and you see this kind of corrupt financialization it in any country that's that's going on in the revolutionary side and so there are
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people who should be empowered by kids of inheritance or by tremendous massive talent or skill and yet they're being cut out and when those people wake up and join the revolution that changes everything because they have tremendous resources to bear and they know how to counter attacks they have the money they have any influence they can go it and like the insiders they're connected. and when they bring what they know to the revolution that's generally when things will take up and then you need of course the masses that's when the right it's the tipping point right you don't have the best movement without the masses and i think that's something that some acute high leaders right now are having a hard time with because they put in such hard work the last six months and they've done so much and the idea that all these other people are going to come on board and bring all these other skills and resources and priorities it's a little hard for them to get digest right now but if you're going to have them as we need it you have to have it open source you have to make it easy for anybody to
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walk in and make themselves comfortable in a. home find their place and get what they have to offer there have been i think you're spear six groups or you're six kinds of people are well represented for example in a market revolution and arguably well not even arguably very well represented in things like the abolition movement the suffrage movement the civil rights movement on the other hand the french revolution which kind of went the wrong way but was it missing what it was actually had all the pieces it had a tremendous selection will base it had activist it had people in the streets what it also had was groups here who got very paranoid about about co-optation and the historical fact is that the majority of the people who went to the guillotine were revolutionaries themselves it wasn't here mr gratz it was the chair of his robes here stepping down his revolution looking for anybody he might try to co-opt or to lead it so the purity crusade and this is what happens if you can lose a revolution as glorious as the french one was you can use it utterly if you get
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too nervous about who owns it who gets to set the agenda he's really in control. here managed to chew even after launching yards leisure and beasts and yada yada yada before he knew it he himself was on the block and that's when it ended you know sarah robinson you were brilliant thank you so much thank you town as i said last week this movement needs both outsiders on the streets and insiders and groups like move on and even in congress to succeed so let's get to work all of us outsiders and insiders to make this happen. our first comment and i comes from deanna posted on our thom hartmann facebook page there was a suggestion on how to create change in america he wrote mass protests with millions of people participating is the only way to change the discourse in america
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we all must stand up and speak out because if we can because we don't have billions to throw at politicians you're right and you're absolutely right nothing happens until the people get involved people are sitting around waiting for where's the great political leader when the president going to become the or when the members of congress are when's the fill in the blank ones david letterman you know it's never going to happen politicians entertainers fill in like everybody they follow the people so it takes it's going to call your it's the next comment of the night comes from a grandmother in northbrook illinois she called in to our viewer rant line had this reaction to our piece last week about fascists in congress here i am grandmother from illinois i am watching you vote for audible you didn't care to bring up this obvious fascist huddle against running our
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country i can't come in she would not grovel for you communists indeed. children car seats. anyway best of luck to you you think. and thank you i think you know it's what's particularly ironic about this is that i wasn't calling out the fascists as it were in the you know using the george bush administration or using the abuses that happened in two thousand after after nine eleven as my example i was quoting the vice president of the united states from one hundred forty four hundred bells you know the roosevelt's vice president and he was asked by the new york times to write an op ed about fascists in america and he basically you know said here they come look out this is how you'll see them and it sure looks like that to me right now our final comment and i come from don who
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watches the big picture in new zealand he had this take on the republican party does i've watched the big picture for several weeks and congratulate you on a clear statement of many important issues although i consider myself a conservative voter i fear the extreme positions taken by the republican party remind me more and more of the excesses of eighteenth century france i'm now waiting for a new romney campaign slogan my pick is that it will be let them eat cake. perhaps i am. concerned more about the factionalism within the party and my biggest concern frankly is what the supreme court has done to the united states with this bizarre doctrine that money is not property but it's speech and that corporations are not. corporations that they're people and as long as this is in place and we really difficult for with the people whether we be conservatives progressives tea partiers whatever it may be to really assert any kind of
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genuine populist ground up action and i think frankly without that we're going to have a real problem thanks a lot don for letting us put our flag on your great nation in new zealand you like to help us out help us put a flag in one of the other one hundred countries the big picture airs on and listen up. we want to know your to send us your comments by visiting the tom hartman facebook page twitter at tom underscore her or in the chat room on the message boards or through the blog at tom hartman dot com you can also leave a message on our rant line at juju by three six fifty three zero six agreed disagree sound off it's all welcome but remember that your comments may be used on the ear. crazy alert that's one fish if you're ever since hitler's demise people all over the world of claim to see his likeness in everything from light switches to putting covered babies is even a website for people to share their cats striking similarities to other theories
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but now a new look alike has emerged meet george the goldfish that's right george recently developed a tooth brush mustache like marking above his upper lip making him look very similar. but the similar don't and there according to owner deborah cochrane george won't eat fish food only vegetables similar to hitler's own dietary choices and car princes georgia often has a fin raised upwards like hitler's infamous salute or whatever former world dictators are swimming around in the world's fishbowl. coming up after the break republican congressman allen west turned heads last week when he said members of congress were actually communists find out just how misguided his views are on communism the last one of the leaders of the days american communist party.
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