we want to present. something. that three thirty pm moscow time of these are the top stories on our g the syrian opposition shows its multiple faces as anti regime rallies see a renewed vigor but the gunfire not necessarily defending the revolutionary slogans for change. waterboarding stress positions and degradation a secret memo shows the u.s. was warned against using cruel interrogation techniques branding them war crimes.

and a thirst for blood norway's mass killer of seventy seven people anders breivik says he would take more norwegian lives if you have the chance paul delivering his prepared testimony before the court. now it's here at last the much anticipated world premiere of julian assange just talk show with a renowned whistleblower well and truly delivering on his promise to give voice to even the most vilified figures of our age we finally find out who his first guest is right here on our city. first. time julian assange. the strongest so it is true we should be able to expose the world see these jackets long states got been attacked by the powerful united states

strongly condemn. illegally five hundred days now i've been detained without charge but that hasn't stopped us. today we're on a quest i can change the world tomorrow. this week i'm joined by b.s. from a secret location you live in on is one of the most extraordinary figures in the middle east. he has for many battles with israel and is now cordell the international struggle to syria i want to know why is he called a freedom fighter by millions and at the same time a terrorist by millions of others. this is his first interview in the west since the two thousand and six israel living on war his party his beloved is a member of the live in his government he is its leader saeed. now it's really.

how you read it. i read a. ten page. what is your vision for the future of israel and palestine what his book consider victory if you had that victory when you disarm. that was that easy that the state of israel does not that it is an illegal state it's a state that was this elaborate on the basis of occupying the land so there's a lot of usurping the lands of us and this i love you all are controlling by force the nuns i said yes' and of committing massacres against about his opinions you who would expelled. and base including muslims and christians to believe that is so for the estranged from justice he is well known justice remains remains of the work of the messiah when he even actually has

a policy as are the evident progress of time there's no certain justice in tuneup is not be making them all just as bad as if it's my how they feel about me for your house and i go ok call it by force and doesn't become mine in fifty or one hundred years just because i'm stronger than you and i have yet been able to ok call you a hands that doesn't give me that doesn't legalize why i should leave your house and his business are ideological if you and i mean both you and i and we need the potus imus belongs to the palestinian people that i would not imagine that if we wanted serious ideology i will combine that what i see a lot she going to do no matter who commits a coat i really think the religious on the ground should say that the only solution is we don't want to we want to kill anyone no matter if once and been treat anyone not just a name that we once just just to be restored to. the only solution is the establishment took one sunday one state on the land of palestine it was the magnificence of the jews and the christians and even the east in a democratic state. any other simulation. will simply not be viable and in the west

the state israel says that it is sure he'll talk to on his blog and was fired brokers into israel law at subi we need a reason this is the true. throughout the past year. i mean not even since nineteen forty eight when the state of israel was created on the land of palestine with israeli forces have been shining symphony and lebanese civilians in the nepalese towns and lebanese villages. for the work with my interest in the resistance here that's between one thousand nine hundred. ninety two. after ten years of resistance. that we started reacting to. the. only and strictly to stop israel shelling our civilians so the ninety nine three there was an understanding. that it was in direct between the resistance

and israel and the understanding. of nine hundred ninety six and that understanding that. makes clear that both sides of always shelling civilians and we always used to say if you don't call don't shell out of ages and silence then we have nothing to do with your villages and your child's so this method has a lot of results to it after an unknown years of aggression against lebanese civilians and its aim is. to make a kind of the terror and balance to prevent israel from killing lebanese. according to wiki leaks cables coming out of the u.s. embassy. you see if you were shocked. so sad how corrupt his beloved members i'll fall in one of them because some of his members were driving around in s.u.v.s all the issues he's wearing so.

you have to do not how do you know. buying takeaway food. and i can take away. is this a natural consequence of his beloved moving into electoral politics within lebanon . well and. what they said. about about this this phenomenon is not correct. this is pods out of the room and. they want to see used to discredit his beloved distorted image or this is anyway will be part of the media war against us and you know they talk about us they say. that we operate you know meth your organization and the same. drug trafficking organizations around the world which even though you know religion and

you know more religiously this is absolutely one of the biggest fans that with something we try to games they say a lot of things that are baseless and i would once in a fantasy fresnel this and this thing is not correct. secondly on what they said recently what i say. it's just a very it's a limited phenomenon and the reason for it is that that there are some you know rich families which which were not which in the past were not supporting has a lot of always supporting it it's a lion or its ideology or its program and you know after two thousand and four when the resistance in that phenomenon has a lot of that has blossomed main proposed a component of the resistance and they managed to liberate side fred and that was seen as a kind of miracle it created a great shock in lebanese society might cause. how could this small group like this just stand for thirty three days and face saying wish we had because they're the

most powerful army in the region without being defeated on that so there are groups inside fact that started considering themselves the crew it has been law or was the board as it has been out and they come from you know wealthy. but never never live consistent with their. financial capability so you know it's it's you know this is they say this is the dominant move to his beloved it's not true i say this really confident you're playing with the information i've been saying about to me this is not leading a normal and that is their techniques for running. why have you supported the arab spring in a museum yemen egypt and all the countries both. in syria. clear response first and then the originally first in principle returned want

to interfere in the interference of arab states has always been not on the scene where we have been prevented the center of the world had been excited very serious and very importantly to an extent that nobody really knew move the new policy can just not take its position regarding peace and clearly i was. in syria everybody knows the facts of this sort of assets regime and i wonder if he has supported the resistance in lebanon supporting terrorism stands in palestine right now as to snopes backs down in the face of this radiant american pressure so it's a regime which serves for participating in course very well. what we call for in serious negotiations dialogue is the idea of reform actually the reform is going to be carried out because the alternative to that in a way because of the first season but also inside syria because the sensitivity of the situations in syria and also the just of course they lead to civil war and this

is exactly what america and israel want for syria so over the weekend or one hundred people. in homes including a journalist i had dinner with a year ago it very cold and i can understand your logic in saying that we should not just destroy a country for more than a year and it is much better to reform a country if possible good because his book over a ridge line national called if there are one hundred thousand people killed one million people killed when you all his books say could. there is a lot. more to the death and from the beginning of your friends in syria we have had contacts constant conflict i mean. and we spoke as friends while giving each other advice about the importance of carrying out reform is that right from the beginning i personally found the president i said was very wedding suit carry out radical and important if i have this and this used to reassure us regarding the

positions that we had then when i saw but more than one occasion publicly i used to give speeches and saying this and say this and i did not hear that and in my hand in my meetings with various lebanese and the arab and other political leaders no i said well the same things that i am confident that president assad wants reform nothing and he won't be he ariad reforms. genuine the pilot but but the opposition has to agree. i'll say most of this is the first time i said this we don't know if you have contacts and you even elements of the authorization which as you are to encourage their family and to facilitate the process of dialogue with the ratio of these fallen trees they project i am not going to be there and right from the beginning of we have a regime that's. when interest bad to go reforms and prepare for dialogue no matter the other side you have an operation which is not prepared for telling us that one is not of the public it's not prepared to accept any reforms and is all it wants is

now you must bring down the regime forces are open up another thing as you if you switch what's happening in syria. as during the late afternoon that it wasn't true i saw just with one eye. remarkable seeing the armed groups in syria you have killed in very many civilians. do you see the syrian situation growing more troops . to stop the killing is yours looks you have spoken about called gloria understand why dialogue is very easy to talk about but on the practical measures for had or not bloodshed is occurring in the syria. in the previous question there's something i didn't i didn't mention but i'll add it to the sides of this answer the second the first dates offer money to provide money the place where he ends which encouraging fighting inside syria and some of these arab countries in their own countries as well as from one side here there's

a very serious. issue as well which is confirmed and we've all heard him talk for a minute so what i mean. when he when he called for the fighting in syria. to arms and so there are so there are fighters from outside who are right in syria and others that are following them. from various countries. and they're trying to turn syria into a battleground. as a country that provides awareness and money. would be able to get between opposition groups and their supporting to sit down at the table and result things but i think i said just a few days ago that said marit huntress up with the it was the other attacks like this have tenure and trying to find its goals are like with israel for tens of years nonstop this despite everything that is resident the region they know they won't be given one year or two years of a new ticket or even just a few months to come up for a political solution in syria and this just doesn't make any sense and would you be

willing for years or mediate between these opposition groups and the i said regime people trust that you are not an agent of the united states or your u.s. railtrack but will they trust that you are not an agent of grass or a crazy if they can be convinced. except through brokers. if you will but the experience of thirty years of hezbollah's life moves now it's you know it's just a friend of syria not an agent of syria. so you know there have been periods of not an ounce political and. cheering which to say our relationship to syria took was not good but we had problems even actually in us there were problems between us and then and now those who used to benefit from the political. influence of syria in lebanon they are now the ones who are out. there not only hosing us whereas we used

to be under pressure from syria we are friends we're not an agency by syria various segments of the syrian opposition know that and all the political forces in the region and that's why we're friends. at the present that's a first and second period when i say we support a political suggestion. that in most certain need to be willing to take sides i mean i first or any i don't attribute this to chief that's what i'm going to trickle solution to the person i said to you some help here and we contacted some parties but they refused to get into it with the regime believe so any any group drugs are not going to restrain and would like us to be to be go betweens well being of more than happy to mediate on their behalf we are asking others and we have to make the effort to help to to to create something that's a consideration. i believe that these opposition groups would find his supposed

grow more credible if you said to the syrian regime. that we have a writ large. is the syrian regime free to do or it was as far as his blood is concerned for all this all these things that his blood gulag except. for here and that yes for sure so i think they will say president bashar assad has red lines and that our brothers in syria have red lines have you and we reaffirmed these red lines that we should all of all the high price of the problem there he said there is fighting going on about it and orderly when one side entry inside the other one advances and. so mr two was talking to us and we should not slam closer than is going out and this is approaching continued because even if one party retreats the other one with the fam. and easier has declared that it will agree if you can eyes the syrian regime anymore why has it been easier taken this strong move

to disconnect itself from syria and i believe for the. position that was taken in tunis for elsewhere. so on in complete control is i want to say and correct i would say incomplete everywhere the us of course there's a there's even mistaken incorrect information which was presented chair of plants and western governments here when it was cold when they were told that the regime is going to fall just within a matter of weeks so a lot of them wanted to be partners to this and to separated for a period i don't conceal also my belief that for you have perhaps the reason for some of these positions taken on the death of the us because the young new government has placed tough tests and they believe that they it's not it's not the time to start getting into arguments with the us and the west and things like that

and it's better to appease them and go along with them in a lot of these issues you have made a international media network the united states is walking. into us at the same time united states to clear. a best you know free speech why do you think. the u.s. government. over. a million women. they want to be able to tell people that one of those three and terrorism terrorists organizations if it kills and it murders but they want that people listen to us live from ohio for example if there was a just a trial then you have this very lenient defendant should have an opportunity to defend themselves if you want that i mean. the u.s. administration at home or we as we are accused but we don't even have been sending out very basic rights to found to defend ourselves even troops who were given the

argument all the time to leave that impulse of the world so they are preventing this points from me. so i made as a leader in war. how did you manage to keep your people together. though is the main thing as far as my concern is we have an objective we specify the objective as object. of human moral. and faith based and patriotic whether there is no debate about it this objective is to direct ground from occupation this is the original reason the real reason why has a lot was established in the first place and there's no speech about this among lebanese. would we didn't want to be you know want to get into government we cannot compete and it's really. the first time we entered the government in government was in two thousand and five and they were there was not in order to have

a share of the print saying to protect the back of the resistance so that this government the government that was set up in two thousand wouldn't make any incorrect mistake and against the resistance we had fears of president i mean. wouldn't you have to correct. and i make it my priority and i have always. rivalries for the sake of this objective that i give everyone close to god and people cooperating fully achieve this objective until this moment we. get seeing the goals of internal squabbles as far as we can but you can see there are many many issues in lebanon for which there are huge arguments and differences . we have points or sometimes even expressing all of you taking a position so as not to get involved no morals or people on priority is still a real hope for the liberation of our land and the protection of lebanon from this region because we believe that never no it's still faces

a threat. i want to go back to when you were forty you were the song or. your first memory as a boy. in a one on and you these are the memories affect your political thoughts. probably i think naturally when i was a child with the condition child. i was born and lived and lived in the. oh fifteen years. since i was born in a neighborhood. in east beirut where the whole image one neighborhood hard seven characteristics of the arc of a naturally thin environment to go against these certain effects on one person as either one of the characteristics of this neighborhood is a poor area it used to have moved. in and there was.

sunni muslims it was christina romer there were armenians there were kurds. and also. there were litanies and kind of standing around both and the so i was born and american is very mixed and very environmental out probably i think so naturally it's made it's made me sort of concerned. about palestine and the injustice which the palestinian people have been subjected to sleep so i had one very early awareness of that because the palestinians who were in our neighborhood when they were all expelled from their towns from haifa from mike from jerusalem from ramallah. this was the environment that i was born in and brought up and. it's using very old yours about israeli incursion anticorruption this is interesting to me because i am an expert in encryption and need to feel the sheer and.

extensive surveillance do you remember this story. of yes i was thinking. about how simplicity can defeat complexity. for example working with the israeli forces. in that they use very sophisticated technology. that records or in their communications. by women for resistance on the other hand is appropriate resistance and most of the young men in that are just ordinary finnish boys and they come from farms and small towns and they come from an agricultural kind of scene. and basically it's a they said they speak only what i'm talking so. there's no there's no complication about ted but very simple devices but when they get there when they use code base in three years the kind of language that kind of slang that is used in their

villages and among their families so anyone listening on this anyone listening sort of behind the surveillance devices and having the computer is trying to you know trying to do codenames this kind of language they will never be sure there won't be easily able to find out what this means i mean this what is next for you that among these presidents. for example to use certain words. just the french kind of. you know the cooking called don't came. i would be a didn't even finish stay in this room yesterday because many of the father of the czech came out something like this you know so that you know the name is dreamy intelligence come back and. say i mean they're still going to understand who the father of the chicken is and why they call him the father of the chicken and how the young product of god with the third is not going to do you any good ration books and there is the mentality and. i just make one very provocative course that

it will read and then why don't just says ian it is not political well it is now relationship. you have ford against a hedge many of the united states isn't a law well the notion of a god the alternate superpower and shouldn't you as a freedom fighter also seek to liberate people from the totalitarian concept i want to be called. not that we believe that god almighty well clearly is the creator. of this existence and of human beings and of all created creatures and. when we created us. gave us capabilities he gave us one studies and the other because the psychological and spiritual capabilities we call it instinct. people are in

isolation just all for where they live as a nation from religious laws just they have an instinct that they are conditioned but they have an instinct to tell the truth they have barely an instinct on the against in terms of the truth as they are and from a little lying is bad justice is good that injustice is bad solder that helping out with more meat bill and i'm just a christian we are defending them it's good thing. attacking others and shedding their blood because this horrible. way with the issue of resisting while american here get money or go on misleading ok racially resisting any attack against us or against our people. this is a moral issue that we an instinctive one law and a human one god also one would not like this censorship so actually i sense the moral and human principle as somehow consistent we are still normal at the end of

the heaven but because a. lot of their every hundred predictions did not come up with anything that contradicts the mind on an exit at the human eggs i think it will not because the creator of the religion is the same as the creator of the human and that you things are a consistent. whenever you are in any country for you know even if in a house or in a country again if there are two leaders that's a recipe for a new india so how could the universe have the last. one of the the opinions ideas . and that in such beautiful harmony ok i now have more than one quarter mother was more than one cause it's already been shown circus as you might say well i didn't say we don't as you i would i would as you know you're going to fight same pose and really just having fun while he molly is a brat and the prophet abraham. was always in favor of was anyone dialogue and

showing evidence and we're all we're all followers of the prophet thank you very much cause you share that for yourself all sorts. of. thank you thank you this is the intercourse was done that is very high bush goes on with that if you mean. look there was even more. show for him. to go. to sleep sleep sleep sleep sleep sleep. sleep sleep sleep. well do the. syrians technology innovation all these developments from around russia.