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week i am joined by guests from a secret location living on is one of the most extraordinary figures in the middle east. is for the main battles with israel and his now quote up any international struggle over syria i want to know why you see kolbe a freedom fighter by millions and at the same time a terrorist by millions of others. this is his first interview in the west since the two thousand and six israel living on board his party his blood is a member of the live in his government use its leader saeed and now it's really. are you ready. i'm ready. and thank you and. what is your vision for the future of israel and palestine what would his

book consider victory if you had victory would you disarm. well let's even see at this stage of the history of this not that it isn't illegal state it's a state that was the stoutness on the basis of occupying the land so i'll get out of you something that lands of us and i love you all are controlling by force their lands of business as of committing massacres against the gravest opinions you who were expelled. based including muslims and christians to well you that is so for those three from you just because he is well known just destroy remains remains of the work of the other side when he even actually has a false sense or if they don't have the progress of time does not send justice into not just not making a judgment just as they as if it's my how they feel about me for your house and i go ok piet come by force it doesn't become mine in fifty or one hundred us just because i'm stronger than you and i've yet to be able to ok call you on that

doesn't get me that doesn't legalise why i should leave your house at least this is our ideological view and i mean those you and i and we may be from palestine muslims to the palestinian people that i would not imagine but if we wanted syria. combine and walk ideologue she wanted to know what. political realities and religious on the ground we should say that the only solution is we don't want to hear want to kill anyone of any terror trying to beat treat anyone just a name that mean once just just to be restored to him. only submission is that mr mishra took one select one state on the land of palestine going to the magnificence of the jews and the christians and even though he is in a democratic state has any other solution the most and cannot be viable and it was the state israel says through it is so he'll to cool hezbollah has fired rockets into israel a lot at sea between a real this is the true. throughout the

past year has. been even since nine hundred forty eight when the state of israel was created on the land of palestine where israeli forces have been shelling except for indians lebanese civilians in these towns and villages. and i work with my interest in the resistance here that's between one thousand nine hundred. ninety two. after ten years of resistance. that we started reacting. we. only and strictly to stop israel shelling our civilians so the one thousand nine hundred three if there was an understanding. that it was in direct between the resistance and israel and that understanding. of nine hundred ninety six and that understanding. makes clear that both sides of always shelling civilians and we

always used to say if you don't call don't shell of it itches and silence then we have nothing to do with your creditors and your child's so this message has a lot of hezbollah results which are after long years of aggression against lebanese civilians. to make a kind of next terror and balance to prevent israel from killing lebanese. according to wiki leaks cables coming out of the u.s. embassy. you see if you were shocked. about how corrupt his beloved members i'll follow up because some. of the members were driving around in his hear the issues he's wearing so words. you have to do not how he have. buying takeaway feared. take away and not be. is this

a natural consequence of his beloved moving into electoral politics we've been living on. well you know what they said have been about about this this phenomenon is not correct whether it was a business part of the room and. they want to choose to discredit his beloved distorted image or this is any way holding the hearts of the media war against us and you know they talk about because they say. that we operate you know math your organization the same. drug trafficking organizations around the world which even though you know redemption and you know more relatively this is absolutely one of the biggest brands that with something we fight against i say a lot of things that are baseless and i wouldn't want to offend to you first but this this thing is not correct. psychology on. what they said recently you know

what i say. it's just a very limited phenomenon and the reason for it is that that there is some you know bridge families which which were not which in the past were not supporting hezbollah always supporting it and slide or its ideology or its program and you know after two thousand and one when the resistance in that phenomena has a lot of people has been as a main propose a component of the resistance and they managed to liberate south lebanon on that was seen as a kind of a miracle but it created a great shock unlike any society my first thought how could this small group like this just around for thirty three days face a wish the very biggest most powerful army in the region without being defeated when actually so there are groups inside syria that could started considering themselves pro has been law all supporters of hezbollah and they come from you know

wealthy guy that would never ever live consistent with their. well i have a financial capability so you know it's it's you know this is they say this phenomenon moved to his beloved it's not true i say this really confident and with this information i've been able to meet this is not really a phenomenon as a piece of writing. why have you supported the arab spring in news you. egypt and other countries. in syria. three reasons first and we're not the originally first as in principle we can't want to interfere in the interference of arab states that's always been our policy well a lot of them have been developments in the arab world have been it's very serious and very importantly to an extent that nobody really knew movement no party can just not take

a position regarding. and. in syria everybody knows face. best as regime when if he has supported the resistance in lebanon supported the resistance in palestine right now it's not backing down to in the face of history be an american pressure so this is a regime which serves the kind of thing in course very well. what we call for in serious negotiations dialogue is that reform after the reform is going to be carried out because the alternative to that are no way because of the first season but it was inside syria because of the sensitivity of the situation in syria but also that is to push their way into civil war and this is exactly what the america and israel want for syria. over the weekend or one hundred people the night of july in homes including a journalist i had dinner with a year ago it mary colvin i can understand your logic in saying that we should not

just destroy a country for more than that and it is much better to perform a country if possible good does his book have a ridgeline national cause if there are one hundred thousand people killed one million people killed. could. there is a lot. on the move there from the beginning of the events in syria we've had a conference constant concepts i mean shut up and we spoke in the strengths about them about giving each other advice about the importance of carrying out reforms there on the right from the beginning i personally found that president assad was very willing to carry out a radical and important if i have this in mind this used to reassure us regarding the positions that we took we had them in when i saw them but more than one occasion publicly i used to give speeches and say this and say this and i hear that and in my hand in my meetings with various lebanese and arab good other political

leaders i say while in the same things that i am confident the president has that once we force enough of this and he won't be ariad reforms realistic genuine or a mile of the above the opposition has to increase the entire i'll say most of this is the first time i say this week on the mob if you have contacts and even elements of the opposition as you are to encourage their family and to facilitate the process of dialogue with the ratio of these parties to reject the dialogue right from the beginning of the regime that this is when it was bad to go reforms and prepare for the i don't know not the other side you have an obligation is that it is not prepared for tell us that it is not that i would be it's not prepared to accept any reforms and is all it wants is not too much to bring down the regime forces are open up another thing maybe with this with what's happening in syria. has delayed a related was in two eyes not just with one eye. or not and we'll see what the armed groups in syria and you have killed them very many civilians. way do you see

the syrian situation growing what should we do to stop the killing in syria you have snipers about all your. want dialogue is very easy to talk about it on practical measures. so i don't have the blood should experience any syria. and that's. the first question there's something i didn't i didn't mention but i'll add it to this i do this on so there's certainly some states that offer money to provide money to provide weapons which encouraging fighting inside syria and some of these arab countries and their own america interests as well as from one side here there's a very serious. issue as well which is confirmed and we all heard him talk for a minute so welcome him. when he when he called for the fighting in syria.

for arms and so there are so there are fighters from outside who have arrived in syria and others that have a following. from various countries. and they're trying to turn syria into a battleground for the countries that provide for their wellness and money. would be able to suit. opposition groups and their supporters to sit down of a stable and resolve things and i think i said just a few days ago that certain arab countries up with the it was the bad luck to. have ten years and it's called dialogue with israel for tens of years nonstop there's just like everything that is resident the region but there will be good one year or three years of a new ticket or even just a few months for a political solution this area and this just doesn't make any sense and it's unfair would you be willing for years of mediate between these opposition groups and the outside regime people trust that you are not an agent of the united states.

but will they trust that you are not an agent of the past their regime if they can be convinced. except through brokers the. if you will but the experience of thirty years of hezbollah's life moves now. it's as a friend of syria not an agent of syria. you know there have been periods of lebanon's political. cheering which has said all relationships syria was not good we had problems even between us there were problems between early then and now those who used to benefit from the political. influence of syria and lebanon they are now the ones who are or who are you know it's only posing us whereas we used to be under pressure from syria because we are friends we're not of agents. syria but various segments of the syrian opposition know that when all the political forces in the region know there's no girlfriend. first and that's a first quite

a second when i say we support a political suggestion. and most certainly will be willing to be accepted any effort or any contribution and yes to achieve that that's what i'm going to tickle solution and i said to you tell you we contacted some parties but they refused to get into a dialogue with the regime to leave so any any group that wants so drugs are not going to restrain and would like us actually being to be go betweens will give more than happy to mediate we are asking others and we have to make their efforts to have a soon to create and that's a consideration. i believe that these opposition groups would find his clothes grow more credible if you said to the syrian regime. that we have a writ large. is the syrian regime free to do what it wants as far as his blood is concerned for all this all these things that his blood will not accept. that we

are not yes for sure so i think that president bashar assad has red lines and there are brothers in syria have red lines have you and we will reaffirm these red lines that we should all of all of. the crowd there he said there is fighting going on with their game and their money accordingly when one side entry inside the other one advances and how this is so long as there was transmitting islamists no slam close and this is going to happen this is going to continue because even if one party retreats the other one would have. uneasier has declared that it will agree if you know the syrian regime anymore why has two zero taken this strong move to disconnect itself from syria. and i believe that the. position that was taken in choosing to support elsewhere was weighs. on

incomplete intensities i would say incorrect i would say incomplete evidence because of course there's a there's even mistaken incorrect information which was presented cero bence and western governments when it was told when they were told that the regime is going to fall just within a matter of weeks so a lot of them wanted to be harnessed to this anticipated victory i don't conceal also my belief that. perhaps the reason for some of these positions taken after the. because the young men i knew government as good are faced tough tests and they believe that taints now is not the time to start getting into arguments with the us and the west and think that it is better to appease them and go along with them in a lot of these issues you have made a international media network the united states is blocking probably broadcasting into us at the same time united states it is

a free speech why do you think. the u.s. got good so it's good all over. when you don't. want anyone to be able to tell people that has one of us a terrorism terrorist organizations if everything goes a bit murders but they want people to listen to us from ohio for example if there wasn't just a trial and yet they had a very lenient defendant should have an opportunity to defend themselves. but the u.s. administration the one we're we're accused of we don't even have had very basic rights different to defend ourselves like the united troops were here for arguments all the time to leave their peoples of the world so they are preventing this from. so either as a leader in war. how did you manage to keep your people. far

. as you know is the main thing as far as i'm concerned we had no objection if we specify the object if the subject. of human a moral. or i didn't favor paste and patriotic one there is no debate about it this of texas to the great land from occupation this is the original reason the real reason why has a lot was established in the first place and there's no speech about this among lebanese when i'm with you would you know want to be did not want to get into government we cannot compete for political power that the first time we entered the government in government was in two thousand and five and they were there was not in order to have a share of its approach. to protect the back of the resistance so that this government and the government was set up computers and wouldn't make any incorrect mistakes and against the resistance we had fears of the i. wouldn't have objective

correct objectives and i make my priorities and i have always all of the rifle reason for the sake of this objective and i do mean everyone close together and people cooperating fully achieve this objective until this moment we are. getting enfolds of internal squabbles as far as we can but you can see there are many many issues and levanon about which there are huge arguments and differences. we have point at sometimes even expressing all of you taking a position so as not to get involved no morals or people our priority is still a real hope for the duration of our land and the protection of lebanon from the israeli threat because we believe that never no it's still faces a threat. i want to go back to when you were a story you were the son of a greengrocer what was your first memory as a boy in this home in a one on twenty of these are really memories affect your political thoughts.

because they are naturally comparable when i was a child going to prison child. i was born and lived in the posh home fifteen years. since i was born in a neighborhood so i can be in. the home as one of the neighborhood had certain characteristics. and naturally the environment gives the certain effect on ones of us and as i say either one of the characteristics of this neighborhood is that with the pool area it seems to have missed. and there was a sunni muslims see him there was christian. armenians there were kurds. and also there will be nice and kind of sense and i both know what it was so i was born in this very mixed and very present environment probably

i think so naturally this made this made me sort of a legend concerned. about palestine and the injustice which the palestinian people had been subjected to so i had to in a very early awareness of that because the palestinians who were in our neighborhood they were all expelled from their sounds from haifa for america from jerusalem from ramallah. this was the environment that i was born in and brought up . using very old your was about israeli incursion and the christian this is interesting to me because i am exploring persian. appear to feel the sheer. extensive surveillance do you remember this story about how yes i was speaking about. how simplicity can defeat complexity. and for

example working with the israeli forces. in the known that they use very sophisticated technology. in their weapons or in their communications. the resistance on the other hand is a popular resistance and most of the young men in it are just ordinary french horns and they come from farms and small towns and they come from agricultural training scheme. and basically he's a the same basic an ordinary walking talking. and there's no there's no complication about had very some problems down the prices on them when they move their homes and when they use codes they simply use the kind of language that kind of slang that's used in there is a new choice and among that families so anyone listening. or anyone listening sort of behind this survey instead why it's them having whatever the computer is trying to you know trying to decode the names this kind of language they will never be if

you think they would be easily able to find out what this means and i said i'm this laverick for you as. among these present. let's say for example they use certain words. just in french kind of times. you know the cooking codes and don't claim. i would be able to even finish sayings whom. you know the father of which they came out something like this you know this is training intelligence coming soon told compared to add interest i'm going to understand who the father of the chicken is why they call him the father of the chicken and how the you know part of the so there's not going to do you any good reason because nobody can tell you that it's but. i just make one very provocative course lead you to read and. then just if there is a and it is not political will let you know later still in c.s.m.a. . you have ford against a hedge many of the united states isn't a law or the notion of

a god the ultimate super powers and shouldn't you as a freedom fighter also seek to liberate people from the totalitarian concept of a mono. god. not that we believe that god almighty. is the creator. of this existence and of human beings and of all created creatures and. when we came created. gave us capabilities that gave us awesome audience and so you know in terms of psychological and spiritual capabilities we call it instinct. people are in isolation all for when they're not as a nation from religious laws but just they have an instinct and out but they have an instinct to tell the truth they have every instinct on the against them but

truth has a trauma that lying is bad that justice is good and i can justice is bhatt saab to that helping out would normally people and i'm just trying to people and defending them is a good thing i'm well happy that prototype tacking on the us and setting their blood this is horrible must a lot more. power. with the issue of resisting american here again many who are missing occupationally or resisting any attack against us or against our people. love this is a moral issue that we an instinctive one a law and a human one god also one would not like the sensation so this is a sense of the moral and human principle on us all consistent with normal yet also haven't done that because they. think they ever have a tradition started not just for power come up with anything that contradicts the mind on legs as a human in something because the creator of the religion is the same as the creator

of the human and that you think such a great consistency. we're never going to have in any country for you know if in the house or in the country are going to actually it is that's a recipe for a new will be so how could the universe have been lost for. the indians ideas. in that in such beautiful harmony ok and have more than one god in other words more than one cause it's already been shown to be said to me so we're going out i didn't return as you i would object if you needed five to pose and i really just getting from anyone here molly abraham the prophet abraham who i want with always in favor of my friends anyone dialogue and showing evidence and we're all we're all followers of. prophet thank you say yes or no scores you see that for yourself. thank you thank you these are the interpreters are going to have is

a very high bar score them with this image. of. a podium and look like a. choker. to. see such.