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figures in the mainstream often ignored. and so off the big build up the long awaited debut edition where julius science tackles tackles hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah that's on the air less than a minute from now. time truly in a time. stress it is fear of what you can expose the world says he's talking as long as he's got been a tax for the powerful united states strongly campaign. illegally five hundred days now i've been detained without charge but that hasn't stopped us . today we're on a quest. that can change the world tomorrow. this week i am

joined by a guest from a secret location you live in on he is one of the most extraordinary figures in the middle east. is for many battles with israel and is now cordell in the international struggle to syria i want to know why is he called a freedom fighter by millions and of the same time a terrorist by millions of others. this is his first interview in the west since the two thousand and six israel lebanon war his party. is a member of the living his government he is its leader so i eat and i was really. how you rated. i read the. piece and said you and. what is your vision for the future of israel and palestine what would his

book consider victory if you had victory when you decide. that was that easy and the state of israel is not that it is an illegal state it's a state that was this elaborate on the basis of occupying the land so there's a lot of usurping the bounds of us and this law controlling by force that lands on as much as they are committing massacres against about his opinions you expelled. and basing commitments and christians to where that is so for those three from you just because he is a local justice remains remains of the of the messiah when even if he has a policy as are good enough to have the progress of time there's no sign of justice into not this not be making the justice that is if it's my how i feel about me for your house and i go ok piet come by force it wasn't a come by in fifty or one hundred us just because i'm stronger than you i've yet they may go to occupy your hands that doesn't mean it doesn't legalize why i should

leave your house and these prisoners are ideological if you and i mean both you and we need for palestine this belongs to the palestinian people that i would not imagine that if we wanted syria. combined ideologue she going to northern ireland and the pundits in code i did a reality check on religion on the ground we should say that the only solution is we don't want to be there when it came any one of them we turn to pete not treat anyone not just a name that he wants justice to be restored to you that would go on the only solution is the establishment one selected one state on the land of palestine it was for magic missile and so on the jews and the christians and even though he is in a democratic state any other solution. will simply not be fireproof and in the west the state of israel says it is so he'll to cool i was fired rockets into israel lol at sunni areas is that a true. the world. throughout the past year has.

been even since nine hundred forty eight when the state of israel was created on the land of palestine where israeli forces have been shelling civilians lebanese civilians in the boonies towns and lebanese villages. for the weapon in the in the resistance here that's between one thousand nine hundred. ninety two. after ten years of resistance. that we started reacting to. the. only end strictly to stop israel shelling our civilians so the nine hundred ninety three there was an understanding. that it was in direct between the resistance and israel and the understanding. of nine hundred ninety six and that understanding that. makes clear that both sides are following shelling civilians and we always

used to say if you don't call don't shell of it it is going to understand that we have nothing to do with your villages and your talents and so this message has a lot of hezbollah resorting to it after a known years of aggression against lebanese civilians proper and. rather to make a kind of mess terror and balance to prevent israel from killing lebanese. according to wiki leaks cables coming out of the u.s. embassy. you said that you were shocked. about how corrupt his beloved members are problematic because some of his members were driving around in s.u.v.s all of them had issues he's wearing so curbs. i do not how do you know. buying takeaway food. and i can take away i don't know he. is this

a natural consequence of his beloved moving into electoral politics we've been living on. well you know what they said. about about this this phenomenon is not correct where there's a this is part of the room and this is what they want to say she used to discredit has been a distorted image this is anyway the media culture the media war against us and you know they talk about us they say. that we operate you know math your organization the sale of drug trafficking organizations around the world which even though you know religion and you know morrell it's a this is not absolutely one of the biggest brands that something we fight against they say a lot of things that are baseless and i would want from a friend to first know that this this thing is not correct. secondly on.

what they said recently i say. it's just a very sad it's a limited phenomenon and the reason for it is that. there are some you know rich families which which were not which in the past were not supporting hezbollah always supporting its its ally or its ideology or its program and you know after two thousand and one when the resistance in that phenomenon has got a lot of people it was blossoming propose a component of the resistance and they managed to liberate south lebanon that was seen as a kind of a miracle if it created a great shock in lebanese society might cause. how could this small group like this just stand for thirty three days and face a regime of the biggest most powerful army in the region without being defeated enough so there are groups inside syria which started considering themselves pro has been law all supporters of hezbollah and they come from you know wealthy

background that were never ever in life consistent with their. well i have a financial capability so you know it's it's it's you know this is they say this is the norm and move to his beloved it's not true i say this really confident and with this information i've been able to meet this is not really a clear nominee and everybody's running. why have you supported the arab spring in museo yemen egypt and other countries both. in syria. clearview since we were first in one of the originally first as unprincipled we turn to interfere in the interference of arab states it's always been our policy well without them i would be developments and their only won't have been it's fairly serious and very important in a certain extent that nobody really knew move the new policy can just not take that

position regarding. and. in syria everybody knows that it was possible that says regime i wonder if he has a point on the resistance in lebanon supported the resistance in palestine right now it's not backing down in the face of history be an american pressure so this is a regime which serves the palestinian cause very well. what we call for in serious negotiations dialogue is that reform actually reform is going to be carried out because the alternative to that and i would because of the first i think somebody inside syria because the sensitivity of the situation in syria so that it still has a lead to civil war and this is exactly what america and israel want for syria so you get over the weekend or one hundred people are doing homes including a journalist i had dinner with a year ago it very cauldron i can understand your logic in saying that we should

not just destroy a country for about an hour and it is much better to reform a country if possible good because his book ridgeline national call if there are one hundred thousand people killed one million people killed. there is a lot of. mahmoud there from the beginning of the difference in syria so we've had contacts constant process for me to shut up and we spoke as friends about them about giving each other advice about the importance of carrying out reform is that right from the beginning i personally found that president assad was a very willing to carry out a radical and important reform have this and this used to reassure us that we got in the positions that we had. more than one occasion publicly and i used to give speeches and say this and say this and i have that and in my hand and in my meetings with various lebanese and i have been as

a political leader as i said while in the same things that i am confident the president has said once for a fourth and i think this and i will be the ariadne forms a genuine miles about that but the opposition has to increase the entire i'll say most of this is the first time i say this we have commentary on center even elements of the opposition which as you are to encourage their family and to facilitate the process of dialogue with the regime high profile of these parties to reject god another good day and right from the beginning of we've had a regime that's you have this is winning strategy go reforms and prepare for dialogue in america the other side you have an operation which is not prepared for trial yourself and is not a would be it's not prepared to accept any reforms that is all it once is not you must bring down the regime times are open up another thing may as you if you switch what's happening in syria. has to know they have to know that it wasn't true lies not just with one eye. or not it will be the armed groups in syria you have

militant very many civilians. where do you see the syrian situation growing. to stop the killing in syria looks you have smoked it out it's called gloria. one dialogue is very easy to talk about but on the practical measures to france or not the bloodshed is currying in the syria. in the previous question there's something i didn't i didn't mention but i'll add it to this with you this hour so there's certainly some states to call for money to provide money to provide weapons which encourage ng fighting inside syria and some of these arab countries america my own countries as well as from one side come over here there's a very serious. issue as well which is confirmed and we all heard him talk for a month or so welcoming him. when he when he called for the fighting in syria. to arms and so there are so there are fighters from out who have arrived in syria

and others that i've met are following them. from various countries. and they're trying to turn syria into a battleground. for countries that provide a wellness and money. would be able to get the opposition groups and their supporters to sit down a bit table and result things political i said just a few days ago that said marit huntress yep it was the bed like this under a bed soon have ten years time trial in troth political dialogue with israel for tens of years nonstop there's just like everything that is resident the region but there will be good one year or three years for a political rally in just a few months to talk for a political solution in syria and this just doesn't make any sense and it's unfair would you be willing to use a mediate between these opposition groups and the assad regime people trust that you are not an agent of the united states. or yes very old but will they trust that

you are not an agent of the past the great if they can be convinced. except through brokers. if you will but there. are thirty years of hezbollah's life moves. it's a friend of syria not an agent of syria. you know there have been periods of lebanon's political and cheering which has said all relationships syria turn was not good we had problems even extremists there were problems between early then and now those who used to benefit from the political. influence of syria in lebanon they are now the ones who are out. there not only posing us whereas we used to be under pressure from syria we are friends with of agency by syria the various segments of the syrian opposition know that and all the political forces in the region know there is no girlfriend. first and that's a first go and second period when i say we support

a potential cause of national on the ten most certainly will be willing to take so any effort or any contribution and say yes to achieve that sort of it's a constitution in the past and i said to you. we contacted some parties but they refused to get into it with the regime to leave so any any group that wants i would probably dialogue with russia and would like us to being to be go betweens will be more than happy to mediate rather than what we are asking others and you have to make their friends to me. to to create something and that's a consideration. i i believe that these opposition groups would find his clothes grow more credible if you said to the syrian regime. it's we have a red line. is the syrian regime free to do what it wants as far as his blood is concerned for all this all the things that his blood blood except now but we

know that yes for sure i think that president bashar assad has red lines and that our brothers in syria have red lines have you planned we reaffirm these red lines that we should all of all i buy into the problem they have said there is fighting going on but it. only when one side the extreme side the other one advances and how this is so long mr john was talking it's a most unusual slam closer than is going to happen this is going to continue because even if one party retreats the other one will. uneasier has declared that it will agree if you can eyes the syrian regime anymore why has taken this strong move to disconnect itself from syria. i believe for the fed the position of the stake head in tunis for elsewhere was based.

on incomplete infantry's i would say incorrect i would say incomplete everywhere this was of course there's a there's even mistaken incorrect information which was presented tara pence and western governments when it was told when they were told that the regime is going to fall just within a matter of weeks so a lot of them wanted to be harnessed to this and just a great adventure really i don't conceal also my believe that anything you have perhaps the reason for some of these positions taken on that definitely. because the young man i knew government has got a place tough tests and they believe that they it's not is not the time to start getting into arguments with the us and the west and things like that and it's better to appease them and go along with it in a lot of these issues you have made a international media network the united states is looking. into us because same time united states. a free

speech why do you think the u.s. government is so scared all over. they want to be able to tell people that as one of the syrian terrorism there is that organizations if it kills them it murders but they want that people listen to us from ohio for example if there wasn't just a trial and yet we're at the very least one defendant should have an opportunity to defend themselves. but the u.s. administration at home on wheels we're accused but we don't even have been sending out very basic rights defragmenter to defend ourselves even troops who were given arguments all the time to leave their tables of the world have entered so they are preventing this from reaching saeed as a leader in war. how did you manage to keep your people together.

that's the main thing as far as my concern is that we had no objection if we specify the object if the subject. of human time not moral. or ethical and faith based and patriotic whether there is no debate about this subject to liberate our land from the occupation this is the this is the original reason the real reason why has a lot was established in the first place and there's no speech about this among lebanese when we didn't want to be you know want to get into government we cannot compete for a little now with the first time we entered the government the lebanese government was in two thousand and five and they were there was not in order to have a share of the power of its approach say to protect the back of the resistance so that this government and the government that was set up in the two thousand wouldn't make any incorrect mistakes and against the resistance we have is that i mean. when you have

a project to correct objectives and i make it my priority and i have always. rightful reason for the sake of this objective and i give everyone close to god and people cooperating to get you this objective until this moment. we are getting in the folds of internal squabbles as far as we can but you can see there are many many issues in lebanon for which there are huge arguments and differences . we are going to sometimes even expressing all of you taking a position so as not to get untold you know morals and people our priority is still really have the liberation of our land and the protection of lebanon from the israeli threat because we believe that never no it's still faces a threat. i want to go back to when you were forty you were the song greengrocer what was your first memory as of cory in this home in a long time did these are the memories affect your political thoughts.

it probably happened naturally when i was a child but it's a little child. i was born and lived and the. whole fifteen years. since i was born in a neighborhood. in eastbourne that had in the home as one neighborhood a hundred seven characteristics of the apple. and naturally the environment. leaves certain effects on one person as i think either one of the characteristics of this neighborhood is simply because the pool area it seems to have missed some rooms. and i mean there was a sunni muslims see him it was christina romer the armenians there were kurds. and also there will be nice and palestinians and i both know what it was so i was born and i'm

a vulcan it's very mixed and very environmentally out probably i think so naturally this made this made me sort of a legs and consent to the scene about palestine and the injustice which the palestinian people had been subjected to i had in the very early awareness of that because the palestinians who were in our neighborhood when they were expelled from their hideouts towns from from from jerusalem from ramallah had he a sound this was the environment that i was born in and brought top. so using very old yours about israeli incursion anticorruption this is interesting to me because i am an expert in encouraging need for beer to feel. fear and. extensive so they would do you remember this story about how yes i was speaking about. how simplicity can defeat complexity.

and for example working with. really forces in that they use very sophisticated technology. that weapons or in their communications. a woman from existence on the other hand is a popular resistance and some of the most of the young men in it are just an ordinary french horns and they come from farms and small towns and they come from an agricultural kind of scheme. and basically he's a stick they speak an ordinary walkie talkies. and there's no there's no complication about played by very simple devices in a room but when they get them on the walls and when they use codes they simply here is the kind of language that kind of slang that's used in their villages and among their families so anyone listening. or anyone listening sort of behind this survey and stoicism having the computer is trying to trying to decode the names this kind of language they will never be sure they won't be easily able to find out what this

means and i said i missed any of that for years that among these friends of your own must be like say for example when you said. just the french kind of times. you know the cooking codes don't cave in. i'm never going to even finish things room with. you know the father of a chicken or something like this you know so that you know i don't know it's dreamy intelligence coming. computer and interesting going to understand who the father of the chicken is and why they call him the father of the chicken and how the young five provided with a liquid that's not going to do you any good at making some of the ways to make an intelligent and. just make one very provocative course letter to read and i'll show you why don't just if there's a good it is not political well it's an hour later so in c.s.m.a. . you have for it against a hedge many of the united states isn't a law or the notion of

a god the ultimate super power and shouldn't you as a freedom fighter also seek to liberate people from the totalitarian concept of the. god. rapid we believe that god almighty well clearly is the creator. of this existence and of human beings and of all created creatures. when we created us. gave us capabilities and gave us one small these and it is a psychological and spiritual capabilities we call it instinct. people are in isolation because all for when they arise a nation from religious laws just they have an instinct that we are in but they have an instinct to tell the truth they have an instinct on the against controls and that truth has merit from

a little lying is bad justice is good injustices bhatt saab the helping out world war normally people and i'm just trying to get people to defend him it's a good thing i'm a lefty that i don't like attacking on the us and setting their blood this is a horrible mess a lot more power mad plus a player. with the issue of resisting while american who get money home or missing ok racially or resisting any attack against us or against our people. love this is a moral issue that we an instinctive one a law and a human one a day from god also one would not like the sensation so actually listens and the moral and human principle as consistent with normal yet also have limits that you can see. and think that everyone represents insulted not just for they will come up with anything that contradicts the mind on drugs and that the human eggs i think will not because the creator of the religion is the same as the creator of the

human rights and that you can sort of a consistent. whenever you are in any country for you know if in the house or in a country i'm going to ferret cheerleaders that's a recipe for a new m.b.o. so how could the universe either. also hope that the indians it does you know. and that in such beautiful harmony ok i'm going to have more than one quarter mother was mourning one cause it's already being stolen turkey says you know so well now i have a dance with her new president i would object if he needed five she opposed and a religious thing from anyone he mollies so that abraham the prophet abraham and why woman was always in favor of him was anyone dialogue not showing i think once and we're all we're all followers of that prophet thank you so you know so much course you have showed up for your so-called sort of. group. thank you thank you the interpreter is going to that is

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