back to watching r t here's a look at the top stories provocation by rebels against the syrian army only brings more violence in the mines the truce says the opposition inside the country sending signals it's ready to negotiate. london's twenty twelve olympic sponsors come under fire as campaign tourist call into question their credibility saying the games have been turned into a money making mission with advertising the top priority. and the vilified leader of hezbollah takes to the international to the stage for the first time in six years an exclusive interview show by the persecutor whistleblower julian assange

son the stroller should sit down these really occupation and arab revolutions and syria. well and join a sound just full show which caused quite a stir in the world's media is coming right out here in r.t. stay with us. julian aside from stress it is true we should expose the world see these talking as long as the states got been attacked by the powerful united states long weekend yeah they would actually like to leave a few hundred days now i being detained without charge but that hasn't stopped us. today we're on a quest revolutionize the can change the world tomorrow. this week i'm

joined by yes from a secret location and living on is one of the most extraordinary figures in the middle east. he is for many battles with israel and is now a court up in the international struggle over syria i want to know why is he called a freedom fighter by millions and at the same time a terrorist by millions of others. this is his first interview in the west since the two thousand and six israel living on board his party his blood is a member of the lebanese government he is its leader saeed and now it's really. how you really. i read it. and. what is your vision for the future of israel and palestine what board

hezbollah consider victory if you had a tree when you just saw. that was that easy and the state of israel does not say that it is an illegal state it's a state that was the stoutness on the basis of occupying the land so there's a lot of usurping the lands of us and i want to walk through named by force that and some others such as they often are committing massacres against the palestinians you who were expelled. and based including muslims and christians to believe that is so for the estranged from justice he is the noble justice remains remains of the other side well even if he has a policy as are the you know they are the progress of times is not a sign of justice and to know does not be making them justice they as if it's my how they feel about me if your house and i go to occupy it nobody forces doesn't become mine in fifty or one hundred years just because i'm stronger than you and i've yet been able to ok where are your hands that doesn't give me that doesn't

realize why i should leave your house and raise prices are ideological of you and i mean because you and i and we need for part assignments belongs to the palestinian people that i would imagine that if we wanted everyone to be all those he will combine and walk ideologue she under the old iran and the political realities and related on the ground we should say that the only solution is we don't want so you want to kill anyone we prefer one simply treat anyone on just a name that he wants justice to be restored. only solution if this commission took one someday one state on the land of palestine in which the magnificence of the jews and the christians and even the east in a democratic state had any other solution. was simply not being viable and in the west peace stand israel says that it is so he'll to pool his blood and i was fired brokers into israel law at subi really areas is that true.

he was. throughout the past year has. been since nineteen forty eight when the state of israel was created on the land of palestine where the israeli forces have been shelling civilians lebanese civilians in the boonies towns and lebanese villages. for the weapon i'm interested in the resistance here that's between one thousand nine hundred. ninety two. after ten years of resistance. that we started reacting. only and strictly to stop israel shelling our civilians so the nineteen ninety three there was an understanding. that it was in direct between the resistance and israel and that understanding. of nine hundred ninety six and not understanding that. makes clear that both sides of always shelling civilians and we always used to say

if you don't call don't show of images and sounds then we have nothing to do with you if it isn't your tabs so this method of law has a lot of results to it after not only years of aggression against lebanese civilians and its aim is. to make a kind of that terror and balance to prevent israel from killing lebanese. according to wiki leaks cables coming out of the u.s. embassy. you say that you were shocked. so sad how corrupt his beloved members are all along because some of his members were driving around in s.u.v.s all the issues these are wearing so curbs. you have to do not how do you know i was buying takeaway food. and. takeaway i'd not be. is this

a natural consequence of his blog moving into electoral politics within lebanon. well. what they said. about about this this phenomenon is not correct. this is part of the room and. they want to choose to discredit his beloved distorted image or this is anyway holding part of the media war against us and you know they talk about us they say. that we operate you know matthew organizations or. drug trafficking organizations around the world which even though you know redemption and you know morality this is absolutely one of the biggest bands that with something we'll be fighting games there's a lot of things that are baseless and i wouldn't want to the frontier present that this this thing is not correct. secondly on what they said recently

what i say. it's just a very limited phenomenon and the reason for it is that. there are some you know rich families which which were not which in the past were not supporting hezbollah was supporting its its ally or its usual o.-g. or its program and you know after two thousand and one when the resistance in that i know a lot of it was blossom may propose a component of the immune resistance and they managed to liberate south lebanon that was seen as a kind of the miracle if it created a great shock in lebanese society america's. how quickly a small group like this just around for thirty three days facing regime of it because the most powerful army in the region without being defeated connections so there are groups inside. which started considering themselves pro has been law or was the incident has been ugly and they come from you know wealthy but that would

never have a life consistent with their. financial capability so you know you know it's it's you know this is a they say this is a common move to his beloved it's not true i say this really confident and we said with information i haven't been able to meet this is not really a kind all of them have to be running. why have you supported the arab spring in museo yemen egypt and all the countries. in syria. no they're not clear reasons first and then the people originally first in principle we don't want to interfere in the interference of arab states that's always been up on the scene where a lot of them have been developments in the arab world have been excited very serious and very importantly to an extent that nobody really knew movement no party can just not take

a position regarding them and. in syria everybody knows that there's a bus service that's regime i wonder if he has supported on the resistance in lebanon supported the resistance in palestine right now to snopes backs down in the face of history be an american pressure. because he says regime which serves the greatest immune cause very well. what we call from serious negotiations dialogue is the idea of reform actually reform is going to be carried out because the alternative to that no one cause of the plane first in terms of but also inside syria because the sensitivity of the situation in syria also that it still has to be just civil war and this is exactly what america and israel want for syria so you get over the weekend or one hundred people the night of july in homes including a journalist i had dinner with a year ago it mary colvin i can understand your logic in saying that we should not

trust destroy a country for more than an hour and it is much created through. a country of possible good pick because his book over the ridge line. if there are one hundred thousand people killed one million people killed were in all his books a good. there is a lot of. movement of the death of from the beginning of your friends in syria so we've had contacts constant contact every shutter and we spoke as friends about them about getting each other advice about the importance of carrying out reform is that right from the beginning i personally found that president arrested was very willing to carry out a radical and important to have this and this used to reassure us regarding the positions that we have. more than one occasion publicly i used to give speeches and say this and say this on the second and in my mind and in my meetings with various lebanese and arabic other political leaders as i said while in the same things that

i am confident the president has that once reform nothing and he will be the ariadne forms i think genuine that while of the above the opposition has to increase the entire i'll say more than this is the first time i started this week on the beach you have contact center even elements of the opposition which as you are to encourage their family and to facilitate the process of dialogue with the ratio of these parties to reject god are not going to be right from the beginning of we've had a regime that's business when interests that have to go reforms and prepare for dialogue in america the other side you have an operation which is not prepared for trial yourself and it's not a it's not prepared to accept any more reforms news all it wants is now you must bring down the regime suster open up another thing major with peace with what's happening in syria. has really led to a measurable into law it's not just one i. remarkable thing that the armed groups in syria with eleven killed and very many civilians. where do you see the syrian

situation growing more true. to stop the killing is your looks you have smokers about for your god the sound i want dialogue is very easy to talk about it on practical measures to friend or not but bloodshed is carrying with syria. and. then the previous question there's something i didn't i didn't mention but i'll add it to this image of the sunset there's certainly first dates to call for money and provide money to provide weapons which encourage fighting inside syria and some of these arab countries and their own countries as well as from one side there's a very serious. issue as well which is confirmed and we all heard him talk for a minute so welcome in the car that he got when he when he called for the fighting in syria. to arms and so it's so there are so there are fighters are allowed to die

who have arrived in syria and others that has such a following. from various countries. and they're trying to turn syria into a battleground. for countries that provide awareness and money. would be able to get with the opposition groups that are supporting to sit down at the table and result things going i think i said just a few days ago that said marit huntress was the he was the prototype like this we have ten years going to go in terms of a political dialogue with israel for tens of years not just all this destroyed everything that is resident the region they know they're going to get one year or two years and it's a good we're in just a few months to come up for a political solution in syria and this just doesn't make any sense and it's unfair would you be willing for years or mediate between these opposition groups and the outside regime people trust that you are not an agent of the united states or your u.s. railtrack. that you are not an agent over ask the regime if they can be convinced.

except to grow. if you will but the experience of thirty years that has put us life moves now it's over it's just a friend of syria not an agent of syria. you know their opinion period seven months political. cheering british interests are all relationships or it was not good we had problems even actually in us there were problems between only then and now those who used to benefit from the political. influence of syria and lebanon they are now the ones who are on. the hosing us whereas we used to be under pressure from syria but we are friends we're not agents yet by syria the various segments of the syrian opposition know that and all the political forces in the region that's not your friends where the president said let's go and secondly when

i say we support a political suggestion. that and we're certain it will be willing to fix it i mean i first or any i don't attribute to the chief but sort of but it's a consideration in the past and i said to you that if you we do you not kill some parties but they refused to get into a dialogue with the regime believe so through any any group that one so far because i know going through a shame and would like us into being to be go betweens when we have more than happy to mediate either but we are asking others and yet do to make their attempts to help to to create separate and that's a consideration. i believe that these opposition groups would find his pillows grow more credible if you said to the syrian regime. we have a writ large. is the syrian regime free to do what it wants as far as hezbollah is concerned for all this all these things that his blood do not accept. that he

and i yes for sure i think that president bashar assad has red lines and that our brothers in syria have red lines have you and we reaffirm these red lines that we should have all of all a high price but the problem is that he said there is fighting going on with it and . when one side or extreme the other one advances lalama and. so long as saddam was talking to us and we should not slam closer than is going to happen this is going to continue because even if one party retreats the other one when it. he has declared that it will agree if you can i as the syrian regime anymore why has two zero taken this strong move to disconnect itself from syria. i believe for the. position that was taken in tunis for elsewhere was based. on well those

incomplete construes i won't say incorrect i would say incomplete everywhere these are both of course there's a there's even mistaken incorrect information which was presented chair at once and western governments here when it was told when they were told that oh the regime is going to fall just within a matter of weeks so a lot of them wanted to be harnessed to this anticipated victory and i don't conceal also my belief that i think you have perhaps the reason for some of these positions taken and that there will be. because the young man i knew government has faced tough tests and they believe that they it's not it's not the time to start getting into arguments with the us and the west and saying that it's better to appease them and go along with them in a lot of these issues you have made a international media network the united states is walking around we are probably broadcasting into us at the same time united states speak with.

a you know free speech why do you think the us got good or. they want to be able to tell people that one of the syrian terrorism terrorist organizations if it kills and it murders but they want to take a listen to us hi from ohio for example if there wasn't just a trial and yet at the very meaning the defendant should have an opportunity to defend themselves he'd want that i mean read and read some of them but the us administration. we're hearing humans but we don't even have been sending out very basic rights different to defend ourselves being absolutes were people who came and told. me that peoples of the world so they are preventing this from reaching. saeed as a leader in war. how did you manage to keep your people. under

the face. though is the main thing as far as my concern is that we had an objection if we specified object if the subject. of human a moral. one and faith based and patriotic one there is no debate about it the subject of today parade. ground from occupation this is the this is the original reason the real reason why hezbollah was established in the first place and there's no speech about this among lebanese when we did not want to be did not want to get into government we cannot compete for political power for the first time we entered the government and in government was in two thousand and five and they were there was not in order to have a share of now a better approach say to protect the back of the resistance so that this government government was set up until it doesn't make any incorrect mistakes and gains the resistance we have fears are very very i mean and so when you have objective

correct objectives and i make it my priority and i have always all of the rivalries for the sake of this objective that i give everyone close to god and people cooperating so you should in this objective until this moment we you know void getting hold of internal squabbles as far as any kind of you can see there are many many issues and lebannon about which there are huge arguments and francis. we have pointed sometimes even expressing all of you taking a position so as not to get involved no morals and people our priority is still we'll have the liberation of our land and the protection of lebanon from the israeli threat because we believe that never no it's still faces a threat. i want to go back to when you were you were the son. boys your first memory as a boy in this home in a long thank you these are really memories affect your political thoughts.

because they are not truly comparable when i was a child with a little child. i was born and lived and the. whole fifteen years but since i was born in a neighborhood. from being in east beirut at that high level much when i'm in that neighborhood i heard certain characteristics of the occupier and naturally the environment or against their beliefs or an effect on one person as i think either one of the characteristics of this neighborhood is the use of poor. and she said to have meant. there was. sunni muslims it was christina romer well i mean you know this that they were kurds. and also. they will be nice and kind of thing you know what it was so i was born and the nation is very mixed and very you know i remember at

a probably i think so naturally and this made this made me sort of concern. about palestine and the injustice which the palestinian people had been subject to see so i had home a very early awareness of that because the palestinians who were in our neighborhood when they were all expelled from their towns from haifa from mark from jerusalem from ramallah. this was the environment the child was born in and pull top and. so using the old yours about israeli incursion and he couldn't this is interesting to me because i am an expert in corruption should be a family at the sheer and. extensive survey would do you remember this story. yes i was speaking. to me about how simplicity can defeat complexity. and for example working with the israeli forces.

they use very sophisticated technology. there in their weapons or in their communications. by woman resistance on the other hand is a popular resistance and most of the young men in it are just ordinary french horns and they come from farms and small towns and they come from an agricultural kind of state. and basically he's a say they speak an ordinary walking talking. and there's no there's no complication about it they're very simple devices one of them but when they get the moment when they use code they simply use the kind of language that they kind of slang that's used in their villages and among their families so anyone listening most anyone listening sort of behind the surveillance devices and having huge is trying to you know trying to decode the names said this kind of language you will

never be sure there won't be easily able to find out what this means and i said i'm listening for that for you as they please among these presidents. let's say for example use certain words. just the french kind of times. you know cooking call from kenya. and i would be a different finish saying this room with me as i don't have any of the father of the chicken or something like this you know so that you know i know his dreamy intelligence coming. out here so i mean we're still going to understand who the father of the chicken is and why they call him the father of the chicken and how do you know so that's not going to do you any good receiving some of the ways in the manhattan project and. i just make one very provocative course that it will read and as i'm sure i learned why then just if there is a good it is not political will it now relationship. you have forty against a hedge many of the united states isn't a law or the notion of

a god that your ultimate super powers and wouldn't you as a freedom fighter also seek to liberate people from the totalitarian concept probably want to. gold. not that we believe that god almighty well it's the creator. of this existence and of human beings and of all created creatures are. when we created us. gave us capabilities that gave us all some audience and that was the case the psychological and spiritual capabilities we call it instinct. people are in isolation all for when they're not as a nation from religious laws just they have an instinct of the ark and they have an instinct to tell the truth they have an instinct against them tells them that truth

is good family lying is bad justice is good injustices that sad that that helping out with more people and i'm just interested people are defending is a good thing. attacking ugliness and setting their blood this is horrible must. play with the issue of resisting our american here again many more misleading ok racially or resisting any attack against us or against our people. this is a moral issue that we an instinctive one a law and a human one now god also one would not like the sensation so you know this is a sense of the moral and human principle must somehow consistent we are normal at the end of the heaven that you can see. a lot and think that every hundred predictions i did not come up with anything that contradicts the minor one that the human it's nothing because the creator of the religion is the same as the creator

of the human. and that you think sort of a consistent. whenever you are in any country for you know even if in a house or in a country again if there are two leaders that's a recipe for so how could the universe have been lost for them. the good the and someone who does know. and that in such beautiful harmony open and has more than one quarter mother was more than one god it's already been shown to pieces you know so well now i didn't say we don't need as you i would hope you did as you needed a five chain post and a religious baby from anyone here molly abraham the prophet abraham and why woman was always in favor of him was anyone dialogue and showing evidence and we're all we're all on the words of that prophet thankyou sorry that's a lost cause you will see that for yourself. thank you thank you these are the intercourse was done that is

a very high post of them with the for me the. more i was given both my. children. to. see. his. sleeve.