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he had with us this is off he live here in moscow with you twenty four hours a day top stories now past the hour the launch of julian the soldier's very own interview show here on of g.e. causes controversy with the premiere episode nor did load for the choice of guest first person wiki leaks for the top two was hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah his first interview with an international channel in six years. voters are smiling us soldiers posing next to the body parts of dead afghan suicide bombers emerge in the latest in a series of scandals involving american troops pictures of feuding concerns over
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the leadership and discipline of u.s. forces in afghanistan. and russia or accuses all go position in syria of provoking violence and undermining the un brokered cease fire claim for principal reports of the free syrian army is using refugee camps in turkey as safe havens for an assault on regime troops. when you put it in full is for you just thirty minutes from mel in the meantime we go back to the u.s. capital for the second part of the show. our guys it's time for a show in silence a night's program and last week we spoke about the controversy surrounding hilary rosen's comments about stay at home moms so if you think that stay at home moms really are looked down upon today in society or was bad just in ginned up controversy in the media it's got a pretty serious reason to send you to find out what you have. on the streets of d.c. to tell people in the nation's capital what our viewers had to say on twitter facebook
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and you tube and see which comments we should keep or delete. them from. the. democratic strategist hilary rosen said that am romney never worked a day in her life so do you think that these days it's looked down upon or do you think this whole thing's a ginned up controversy so i'm going to read your response from ethics of ambiguity i wrote in to say i think women that have the help of maids and nannies taking care of their children does not qualify as a stay at home mom stayed home mom does it all herself and deserves much respect do you want to keep that comment. because you can keep if you have a nanny that doesn't really mean if you're really doing it like i was a stay at home for a while and it was all me it's a lot of work i don't need your sponsor amador on facebook he said it is looked down upon it's too bad because if you can afford to stay at home with your children and everyone is better off do you want to keep that ardelia to. stay at home and
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it's easier that way so i'm going to read your response from bruce on facebook he said i think stay at home moms deserve respect raising children is no easy task do you want to keep it or delete it i want to keep it i agree with. both and both or both are difficult in their own way do you want to keep that or delete it i would say keep it on have three kids so respect somebody they can raise three kids do you think that it's looked down upon these days if you say home. i think some people through i mean look at you in the one hundred jobs that you don't work but taking care of children just as much work and job to be a stay at home mom yes that is yes that is i think so i think strategists by nature try to stir things up a little bit but i think there's probably a lot of truth to it i think it was somewhat unintentional to stir up that much controversy is this a political attack that went too far or did it really connect with some women voters well all we can say is that people are still talking about it one week later . and. thanks
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for your responses and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we spoke with trevor tim but activists efforts to raise awareness about the cybersecurity bill sr this week so do you think it's just a protest in the as powerful as those that we saw against sopa without the major tech companies like google behind this effort i just know you think on facebook twitter and you tube and responses just might. well we got quite the view here in washington d.c. today the space shuttle discovery made its last flight from kennedy space center in florida to dulles airport strapped onto the back of a boeing seven forty seven the first time this morning it flew right over the national mall you can call it bittersweet symbol of the past but no doubt it was a visual experience that stirred up a lot of emotions and brought out
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a lot of tourists even a lot of d.c. locals to the mall or to building rooftops to see it in person but i guess the biggest question is what's next recent budget cuts even resorting to a car wash to raise funds paint a pretty bleak picture for u.s. government funded space exploration and dominance of the private sector is jumping in with the space x. rocket launch planned for a four thirty s. but is that going to be enough to get a man on mars or join me to discuss that is dr phil plait astronomer and blogger for discover magazine bill thanks so much for coming on the show again. tell me i guess what the thoughts were of the emotions work today as you watched the video of the discovery making this flight. my first thought was i wish i had been there but yeah the show was mounted on a seven forty seven it flew from florida to washington today and it's going to be taken to basically national air and space museum museum where it will be put on display so people can see it it discovers last flight was actually quite some time
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ago the shuttle program sure and we don't have a rocket to replace it so you know seeing it float one last time was fairly bittersweet especially for me this was the discovery it was the one shuttle launch it actually seen live it brought a camera up the hole that i worked on so you know seeing it do this one last thing is a little bit tough to watch you know i thought was that it was interesting because the last time that you were actually on the shell you and i were talking about you can't bridge making promises about building a lunar colony within a year is it a presidential debate and everybody was making fun of them there was a lot of snickering involved and yet today you know the response i feel like was really overwhelming not only did a lot of people go down to actually try to watch this if they were here in washington had the opportunity to but on twitter everybody was talking about it and so does that tell you that you know what we really are still interested and excited about space like or asian. oh yeah yeah people really are down you know of course
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seeing the special prayer service is a piece of history and i wasn't there but my my brother in law was he works in washington he said their rooftops were packed people were somehow tipping bricks rate at that moment you know and work people were suddenly scheduling things that had to be done on that rupert's on and he said every building top that he could see what people want and he took some great pictures of it as well but i want to posting on my blog i wrote about this because basically you're right the number of tweets that i saw the number of e-mails i got the comments that i've seen online show that people really are crave it must be able to go back into space and seeing the shuttle coming in like this it's a little you know i don't misuse the word ignominious it's just it's a sad closing of a chapter in a way to know people really aren't seeing what their next chapter is it's there in a lot of a source written but i don't think it's being spread of only the words to express
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enough rights of weapon i think there do you think there's the word need to be spread about as if for example i mentioned you know at the top here that space x. is about to launch their first traquair never seeing a lot of private investments commercial development in the space industry or is it that nasa has you know other projects of its own going i feel that many people don't pay attention to anymore what exactly is it that we should be talking about in terms of what's happening next. well that's a good question and it's not any one thing i would say for example radio the united states does not have the capacity to put a human being into space we'd have to buy a seat on the russian rockets or as you said space x. which is a private company run by you one musk they're going to be launching a rocket to the space station in just a couple of weeks that oh if we could have an ok so that's the second i want to go there we still have a strong presence in space just not necessarily a mini presence at least one that we put ourselves we do have astronauts on the
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space station but we also have the cassini spacecraft orbiting saturn we have a probe heading to jupiter we've got rovers on mars orbiter is on mars orbiter on the moon we still have a very strong scientific presence in space it's just not necessarily presence in space now is for space x. goes this is a private company they have their own rocket a space capsule called the dragon and this is the first time that it will go to the space station it's going to be on april thirtieth and it's going to be unmanned and crude it's just going to be taking the supplies up there this is the first time this will been done it's been delayed quite a bit because they want to be very careful i'm really looking forward to this because if this work successfully there are a couple of more launches later this year in a year or two this rocket should be rated to allow human beings onboard there are all sorts of safety standards for that and then once again the united states will be able to put people in space and this may be our best bet for doing it in the
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next few years oh i am definitely i guess they've had an affair that is really excited about these new opportunities companies like space x. and others they're developing this kind of technology but is that really going to be enough you know and you've written about this in the sense that we have the government to develop a shuttle program and then that led the way for that now private industry to maybe take over there but if we want to keep innovating if we want to keep finding the next new thing do we need the government to do where it can drive. do it on it's own you know i'm just curious to see what exactly the way the best way is to really inspire people because we no longer have a space race that's no longer about such a sense of nationalism how do you actually sell it as that this is something that it's not waste of money but it's profitable and it's good for the future. wow that's a lot of different question my daughter i really had a minute left that is there to throw your. own well i do think that the government has the pocketbook to be able to afford doing innovative stuff and i think that's
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what the role of nasa should be developing new rocket systems new ways of getting to space and being able to do new things once something becomes routine let private industry do it that's what space x. is going to be able to do very well and hopefully a couple of other systems are coming up as well. is this the only way to do it i don't know you know if yes listeners and it is funny and i think that america should be doing this when you invest in space exploration when you invest in science you want to get making that money back many times over not just for profit but by building up a populace that's educated in science and technology which is so critical to our lives these days so all of this all together i think it's important to have government we need to have private industry and we're populace that is informed and excited about what we're doing i guess we have to remember that it's part of one giant thought of our combined with helping so much for joining us tonight thanks again to one. just ahead as the cyber security complex is out to make
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somewhere besides two hundred feet from. the needs of our growing economy also means expanding our domestic production of oil and natural gas which are vital fuel for transportation electricity and manufacturing this is good for america and the problems of the whole of the rifle and then. our flows are not toxic and we did a lot of research a lot of missed understanding of what exactly in the fluids. time this it gets i'm not here unless you come out here and let my house for a week. i have no rights. all right it's time for tonight's tool time award and this evening the author doesn't
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just go to one person but rather an entire security complex that's growing by the day a cyber security complex just another ugly stepchild of the military industrial complex so you see after declaring cyber security priority number one and a shot in the pentagon joined forces with lawmakers in washington and the private sector investing billions into the complex we've watched develop a for our eyes and in fact this whole industry has sprung up in just the past fifteen years so let's break this system down for you starting with defense and intelligence firms they have been warning of epic attacks they can affect crucial elements of our infrastructure could put the country risk of severe economic damage or even worse put our national security at risk and those fears have been echoed by washington that the next pearl harbor that we confront could very well be a cyber attack that cripples shore power systems certainly our grid. not only from a few extremists in suicide vests but from
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a few keystrokes on the computer. yes both the president and offend secretary leon panetta have taken time to warn about potential threats of cyber war and you can bet they've been focusing time and money on beefing up our cyber security and congress was listening which is exactly where things like this the role of lawmakers comes it and we've already told you how that specific bill would allow the government to monitor share and hold on to any communications discovered by private by private companies and we don't even know where those were and now according to the bill's co-sponsors this is nassib invasion of privacy will be done in the name of you guessed it cyber security. there has been a lot of talk of the prospect of a cyber pearl harbor attack that could shut down critical infrastructure and potentially cause physical damage to the united states henschel the destructive threat against critical infrastructure is certainly possible i am more concerned however about the death by a thousand cuts that we are suffering right now from cyber espionage being
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conducted every day against nearly every sector of our economy. now mike rogers further defended his proposal by saying every day u.s. businesses are targeted by nation state actors like china for cyber exploitation and that the broad base of support for this bill shows that congress recognizes the urgent need to help our private sector better defend itself from these attacks which segues right in the private sector and its role in all of this the private contractors hired by corporations by the government they can always be counted on to exaggerate the threat just like that that these anti-virus firms get and that could be released a report back in two thousand and nine explaining that data theft and breaches from cybercrime may have cost businesses up to a trillion dollars globally and lost intellectual property now i hate to burst anyone security bubble here but it makes perfect sense the knack of p. would be conducting these studies because that just so happens to help their bottom line in fact an op ed in the new york times this week but i too leading economists
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says that we should probably reassess how serious cybersecurity threats really are simply not the first time we've heard this argument being made about the yellowcake of cyberwar before but we have to keep making this point so we don't just blindly let this monster of an industry grow now the authors explain that widely circulated cybercrime estimates are generated of using absurdly bad statistical methods making them wholly unreliable so not all of these numeric surveys always estimate their figures on the high end but when the data gets combined other research down the road the figures or errors that point are magnified to alarming percentages where it is what you're most likely to see as lawmakers and pentagon officials more likely to tout now as gerri great to explain back in february all parties are more than willing to use the media to spread that word. in many cases at least with the queen as a lot of the evidence of the before the starr warnings is classified and they can talk about it of course and look into media and in the sights of the media. that's
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right he says one vicious cycle the private sector puts out their thoughts studies the media picks repeats congress members lawmakers of pealed a fear mongering about countries like china attacking us the a computer and the media repeats how even the president joined then on the fun and the media repeats so the result is billions gets spent new industries get created based on that evidence and i'm not saying that there is no cyber security threat there is but just not at the level claimed by officials in companies who have an interest in expanding their budgets and their profits so for scaring the crap out of us and for profiting off of it cybersecurity complex is tonight's told time or.
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i guide time for happy hour and join me this evening lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r.t. and alex sites log assistant and there of the progress or. hey hey how's it going it's. this was really very just playing these videos just because they're funny to watch but now buckles had a few key moments in his history let's first start i guess you could say with something that happened in two thousand and eleven i believe where he let a lot of people in on his past with of these. so you've never seen the show before no matter what i used to call caleb and watch it i get through it and i don't see people pick up the definition i don't know about the drugs at all because it's bigger than your real nose you know it's a third one but which. they actually read about for an hour but maybe it is usually those apprised of he was on hand the last night and then he dropped a big f. bomb american express. it is so it is
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a failure. you're talking about. we apologize i don't for i don't apologize yes you do know it's the air we were in on the air yes we really water won't we. he was like you didn't something or out of a break. obviously you're out of rates and to think well yeah i need even and he's on t.v. he's on her show you know we're thievin up and gone blame sonic you need to run your show better i didn't know i was on the air yeah i mean i know you know i can i'm sympathetic if they they were on a commercial break and it would be. too much about anything but this guy is a professional t.v. guy i love his just sits back with a suspenders and i'm not going to apologize whatever i don't need to say anything else and i got fired. curse and f. bombs and i'm not on caramel you have fire me go do some work like they used to like are you know. they get fined fox news does quite well they can probably
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consider the cost of doing business yeah. yeah we just did a version but we just like that but let's just play it is all right let's move on this is just messed up things like this just make me angry basically we've been hearing a lot of crying and whining and complaining about the the trigger supposed to go in and these are things that congress agreed to remember like they actually passed this and agreed that they would have it happen and republicans are none too happy about the fact of the trigger is going to go in effect when it comes to defense budget and we've heard them i mean let's listen to the line about it. we have to have a budget if you don't want to have a government shutdown you have to have a budget if you want to reconciliation that will solve what secretary panetta says is the see question or meet x. that will happen to the defense of this country. so it's so important and so right now they're trying to there's weird ways that they're like wrangling in trying to
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pass this budget do with i'm hunting bill and it's all very confusing but what republicans are trying to do now in order for these defense cuts in the trigger effect not to go in is before they were focusing on federal jobs they're going to hammer away at some of them there. no they're just going to go food stamps an average family of four would face and eleven per cent cuts in monthly benefits after september first and tighter important rules require the household exhaust most of their liquid assets before even qualifying for help so this is shows you where our priorities are it's really rare that you see a set up as clean as this where you have food stamps and nuclear missiles on the other hand just like perfectly clear all trades a literal trade off between guns and butter and the u.s. conference of bishops which is a really very reliable republican partisan organization slammed paul ryan on the budget for wanting to make all these huge cuts to food stamps and these are the guys who are behind all the contraception debate and suddenly you know paul ryan
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doesn't care too much about what the catholic church has to say things that they can choose not surprising i think what bothers me the most i mean you can make an argument about what needs to be what should be saved whatever it's just do you think you're going to do like nobody trusts congress any way you agree to these cuts this is your punishment for not having a deal on a budget make the cuts your promise to take the medicine and stop always trying to get out of it in a random get like you're going to say provided it's a really good point why would you pass any legislation anyway why would we believe you every single time you bring the government to the brink of a shutdown when you brought is right to the brink of a default on our debt over all of this is when they reached a deal and now they're just bummed that they had to sign on to something that their lives working their way around it but i mean it's also i know personally i find it sickening and disgusting because people are having a really hard time right now right the number of people that are on food stamps has risen during this recession and we just have more of these weapon systems and projects they keep getting funded even though there were obviously grossly over
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budget really over but what do you like should raid around microcredit these programs over budget and pay for the food stamps with that because you have a fraction of the cost of these programs and these are cuts that people in the. they gone secretary gates the former security fence lots of people have agreed on these are not this is not a core functionality the military a lot of these are these are weapons programs that have gone over you know like seven forty seven's with laser beams attached to their head to shoot down missiles that don't actually work and it just it's just the. republicans wanting to rake in the deficit and get by but do that don't just cut programs in order to paper your big planes this country doesn't need because one has lots time to use them in an actual combat mission was i don't think you're going to win with this because i think that specifically right now you have this mood in the country where people are really they're just fed up they're angry you know the government and then they i think that they can visit rate with people more as a matter i feel like we see congress not
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a lot i don't care that they're here is that i know this isn't the time i think that people are over the war in afghanistan maybe they would wise up maybe it speaks a hopeful let's move on but it's not going far enough for is are going to go that route that i was back that i actually know it is not fair. to the new york post they have had quite a few pinions of the investigation which we've had a lot of coverage into the n.y.p.d. surveillance program here's one of the new york post comments or i think just a few weeks ago on t.v. talking about it. those who are so quick to criticize the police for doing their job go down to the nine eleven memorial walk through the park like setting touch the names on the memorial and then say oh the police should lower their guard told the police shouldn't worry about this happening again. well it just so happened right that the associated press. coverage and the new york post wrote an editorial i just read you one of the little things about it surprise surprise the president
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today picked up a pulitzer for its yearlong nonstop on the n.y.p.d. his counterterrorism efforts the series with a naked bid to appeal to the judge's. civilities ok another case so or lose there is why do people think these things require a z. you know come on they should just go ahead and we are already as not to be out for a pulitzer anyway let's be honest well and that's a good point you know but i just basically said it with congress and you know go back on their word and you know. they're angry at somebody out there is still doing its investigative journalism the way the a.p. did in this series yeah but i think the new york post obviously takes the cake but yesterday was filled with a lot of journalists grousing about other people other journalists winning the pulitzer something we need a new pulitzer for the most sore loser and i think and was posed to be it was intentional and it's you know like what would we call that you know there's like a razzies or though for the worst movies that are out there what about just the worst so as losers when it comes to the poor let's put it up for your
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loser. poor loser ok all right brilliant brilliant but i got to wrap it up but thank you for joining me this evening and that is it for tonight's show thank you for tuning in and make sure you come back tomorrow we're going to have jane future host of the young turks back on the program and we need time to forget become a fan of the a lot of show on facebook and twitter and if you missed any of tonight's show or any other nights you can always catch a dollar you tube dot com slash the alone a show and find interviews as well as the show in its entirety there and coming up next is that he's. wealthy british style. is not on lightly. part of.
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