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revolting video for your media project screen real guns are cheap on time. today on our t.v. as finance ministers converge on washington d.c. to discuss the world's financial situation these leaders should be getting their lesson plans from for profit schools because these money machines are doing all the right things except students that is well explained. and talk about rolling in the mud michigan is a part of natural resources hunting down and killing hundreds of pigs actually raiding farms guns a blazing end of so-called pig so what they've ever do to them and is this yet another example of how the us is transforming into a nanny state. and for those of you who think big brother is getting on your computer conversations get ready to l.o.l.
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because there may be a way around all of that it's called crypto cap and a health scare in your discussions. private. there is a april nineteenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. . well spring may be in the air but optimism about the world's economy is far from blossoming and as the i.m.f. and world leaders the sat on washington for a day there by annual meetings tomorrow europe's fiscal blows and to cast a dark shadow over the agenda today the i.m.f. chief christine legarde warned that the euro zone is at the quote epicenter of potential risk this as she sought to boost the funds coffers to protect against future threats and while the world's leading emerging economies may be willing to
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help they want more of a say afy i have nothing in return it's the rising powers versus the old world order of the world bank as well and as artist lucy cassadaga explains that cash is that clash is likely to dominate this week's meeting. well global challenges may be of plenty these days but few are holding their breath for solutions when it comes to this weekend's upcoming meeting of the international monetary fund and the world bank part of the issue is that the world is still grappling with a crisis a financial crisis that began here in the u.s. that spread to europe and in fact threatens to undermine much of the stability in the euro zone one of the biggest issues of course is that these institutions are led by european countries and the united states and rising economies that are in fact doing hutch better than many of your original founding member nations of these institutions are poised to do better at a time when these economies here in the u.s. and europeans are so much more reliant on their money and their help. take the
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world bank for example one of the biggest charges leveled against that is the undemocratic way in which structured and american has always led the world bank and that has been one of the biggest issues despite a mountain challenge that saw as a piece this week now the united states also leads the world bank but it has a board of directors that is comprised of twenty five members twenty five members but critics say hardly at all reflect one hundred eighty seven member nations in fact some critics say represented less about eradicating poverty as an official gold base and more of a neil liberal neo colonial gang of thugs that imposes unfair policies in terms of the loan for the handouts of the country as it tries to help and whether or not any meaningful reform will actually take place this weekend remains to be seen but the world especially the developing and rising world will certainly be watching carpio lose because in washington. well the eurozone isn't the only player people are
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feeling the financial pain college graduates here in the u.s. are too and it has many asking are for profit colleges nothing but a big scam many students say they're finding that out the hard way owning an enormous. now out of cash and student loans and not able to get jobs to pay them off and now attorney general to more than twenty states are reportedly taking notice to investigate for profit schools take a look at this for profit schools make up twelve percent of all post-secondary students the graduate graduation rate not so great twenty two percent that's compared to a fifty five percent graduation rate among public school and a sixty five percent private graduation rate on long nonprofits that are registered and two thousand and ten fifty four percent of students at these schools dropped out in two thousand and nine the five largest for profit schools reported that
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government grants and loans accounted for seventy seven point four percent of their revenues. so are these schools cheating their students sara jaffe associate editor at alter net joins us now to talk more about this there are so student debt in the u.s. now over one trillion dollars but are many of these colleges more concerned about making money than not educating their students i mean you're talking about the for profit schools being more interested in making money it's starting to look like there's less and less difference between the regular your private schools and even state schools and these for profit schools that said that for profits are statistics you had there showed really awful and now here in the u.s. student debt has surpassed credit card debt and we saw the housing bubble is the student loan bubble going to be the next once burst well one of my favorite instance is that the student debt is actually gone up went up faster than housing did during the growth of the housing bubble i mean the thing that inflated and
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popped and killed our economy and student debt was actually going up faster than that. so sarah obviously not all college is are evil and want to make your money. there is something to be said about going to college and getting a good education though which are which which are the ones that are just out to make a buck. well the problem with a lot of these for profit schools right is that they are well first off their for profit their number one goal is to make money on you but they're pushing things like online programs that make it a lot harder for people to graduate and they are preying on in some cases veterans in other cases more than half a student a lot of the for profit schools are black and latino they're they're going after people who are less likely to graduate in the first place and then are going to be stuck with this debt that they took out to go to the school that they don't even have a degree to shows right now who is to blame and some people say wow they look at
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the students say well you're the one that put out these loans and now you're the one that's responsible to pay them back other people probably going because in the two percent who's to blame for this loan crisis well i mean to try to blame just one actor is ridiculous but you know you look at rising tuition on a seven hundred something percent in my lifetime which is left thirty something years. it's a problem that has government issues. private lender issues the banks and the lenders who are making all this money on these loans are certainly lobbying for the disinvestment in schools at the state level and are on in a lot of cases executives in banks or on boards of private schools there's so many layers in which this problem has all sorts of people you can blame it's really hard to just don't eliminate. anyone so now these school students are finding that it's
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not worth going there because they go there to you know better themselves get make more money get a good job but they're not finding that that's the case so you know i mean well what ways does this mean the downfall of these schools or or what you think about that well i'm hoping it's a downfall for profits because they really are not as you know to they're not doing good for a whole lot of people if you're only graduating twenty two percent of the people that are there that's not even taking into account the amount of those twenty two people who actually get the jobs that they're promised to get in this economy and then they expand however much money on new schools and even if you do get a decent job it's a lot of money to be paying that's right and president obama have touted and advocated you know going back to school getting a higher education getting that degree even if it means doing it in unconventional way by doing it online or but maybe this maybe that's not the best advice
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but. return people tend to return to school and up and love the economy basically is a good idea to get new training maybe but also it's something to kill time until the economy gets better you go back into school full time take out some loans and assume that when you get out in two years and four years that the economy will be better you'll have new skills that will make that an investment that was worth it. right now we don't have any real proof that the economy is going to get much better ok there are well what is the solution then is it more regulation is that making sure that your school is accredited or what is the solution what needs to be done because i mean a little bit of them is a big problem though we need a short term personal solution for people who are in these situations right now which to me is don't go to for profit schools but that's not a really good answer right not helping anybody and then we need a long term policy solution which is more regulation on these schools to make sure they're not predatory we need to reinvest in public education so people aren't
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going to whatever for profit schools and we need to rethink the way we lend money to students and you wouldn't maybe should also think twice before and growling for those classes sarah thank you very much for coming on the show that was sarah japie associate editor at alter net thanks a lot well if you have pigs in the state of michigan hide them or they'll get shot the state department of natural resources outlawed for your own pigs that are pigs that are not native so pigs and piglets on small family farms are now legal and considered invasive species the law went into effect on april first at the deadline that farmers had to wipe their pigs off the face of the planet if not the pig farmers are subject to arrest and as you can imagine this is outraging local farmers that want to keep their beloved swines well joining me now on the phone is
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the mark of acre from bakers green acres. hi mark. i so what is your reaction to this law i understand that you have a court hearing or a court appearance scheduled for tomorrow well actually the court appearance that i'm headed to right now is for another farmer the dia to d.n.r. has to because he wouldn't allow them to come on its property he told get a warrant so they sued and his hearing is tomorrow and just so happens his lawyer and my lawyer the same ones and. my lawyer is going to. do some things in court tomorrow and i just don't want to miss it ok and so you are a local farmer there do you do you own a pig yes i do and if i do i read at least six and what have you done with them have you complied with this law got rid of them no i'm one of of two farmers in
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michigan that has said we will not comply and we have filed suit against michigan d.n.r. and will probably go to court within the summer so at this point mark you are considered to be breaking the law since you still have these pigs getting it right about great they consider me to be a felon a felon or for owning these pigs and how long have you had them all live in this business for about fifteen years this this type of tape that i have is a little different than anything that i normally done. but see with what happened was the michigan d.n.r. issued a deck with twenty ruling and they have nine characteristics and if your pigs have any of those characteristics then they say that your picks are feral ok and so now they're considered invasive species but as far as you know i mean you've had them
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for years do they pose any danger or health risks. no not at all i mean any animal or even a human being can become a girl and i suppose. but behavior of that animal or human being could be become a problem but the whole gist of what i tell my farmer so my my thing is i keep my animals where i want them so i build fences so they stay on our farm and they don't live in the woods or at my neighbor's house or semi anything like that you know that's our goal as farmers is to keep the animals where we want them ok martin this isn't about public safety that what is behind the. politics behind them. know it we think that the michigan pork producers are behind this and even on a grander scale than that probably the american pork producers these are the guys
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that raise pigs in confinement operations or k. folds kafer was the is the acronym. confinement animal feeding operation so you think that it's the big businesses that are behind that oh absolutely they've even come out and declared as much i have paperwork actually sitting. on the seat of my truck right next to me and it lists the people that have signed on for this. and there's six real big ones that it's michigan for . michigan milk michigan poultry michigan potatoes and michigan agribusiness and the granddaddy of all green stone farm credit services so they're the guys that supply the money big the street and now they're kind of demonizing the pigs that local farmer you really mark what is the difference between your pig
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and the pigs that are considered ok are that are allowed to survive that you can own basically there is no difference between the two are raised outside of the meat in line will be better and more taste because they're outside that sunlight that is the root that sort of stuff that they're designed to fix in the case folds. that's the other white meat because they never get to see the light of day so their meat is tail and tasteless and all that stuff and that's fine if they want to do that i don't care to eat that and i'm not throwing stones at them per se but basically there is no different you know they all have curly tails they all have straight straight or floppy ears they all have big and stuff on them. are pigs have a little more fur on them because they're outside their pigs usually are paul but
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they're inside and now we know you're not allowed to have these pigs how are you and your fellow farmers over there how are they reacting to this new law serious serious it's one thing when. when they try to tell us you know what kind of cars we drive but if you try to tell us what we're going to need that's a different story and these are farmers the d.n.r. is dealing with i don't think they they saw there was going to be such an extreme reaction from us but farmers by nature a pretty radical people and very tough and they never give up fifty two years old if i was going to give up i would have done it thirty years ago and i will not give up all right lastly mark what do you plan to do about this are you planning to take to fight this battle in court. yeah that's absolutely what we plan to do because. this is still a cost to tional republic that we live in and this deco sort of ruling that the
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d.n.r. has put forward is unconstitutional and it's a lawful and it cannot stand in this country. where will this end if government regulators are going to tell us how we raise our animals and what we can raise that's our business all right mark we're out of time but thank you very much for coming on the show and sharing your story and good luck with your fight there i hope that you get to keep your pay and that was mark baker from baker's green acres. well we've been covering lately how the government is getting more and more savvy with its surveillance capabilities and controversial bills like so now cispa aim to expand that power but there are some people taking actions to keep their freedom and privacy once a command is nadeem kobe say he was once a master hacker but now he's using his band cyber smarts not to make
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a profit but to find ways to help people keep their on line activities private and he invented best site it's called script a cap and it allows you to send messages online in private and it does this by using encryption technologies masters are disguised to look like nonsense to anyone else and it allows up to ten people at a time to speak privately and a chat room i was joints earlier by hacker turned crypto cat creator and even code base i asked him how he made the transition from hacker to keep people's business private take a listen. well i don't think i was ever a master hacker i was all he's interested in hiking in the sense that it's a practice in which you use computers and digital means to establish tools that may be used for social or political purposes i was always that and i will remain that if you consider this to be the definition of a hiker but there would be perhaps pulling it too far ok but you're pretty good at
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what you're do say here's how you're pretty got a hacking you've got have you gotten into trouble with the law with this in the past well i haven't exactly been in trouble that there have been some times where it has been suggested to me that what i'm doing maybe perhaps dangerous it might be you know it might be controversial but i feel that i'm lucky enough to be able to develop crypto cuts. with with a large amount of support thankfully and tell us about this project crypto cat what is it what is it how does it work. well a lot of people like to use facebook chat and google talk in web services like that and that's great but these services actually communicate what you're talking about to facebook and google and there is no privacy you know your communications can easily be intercepted by these parties and also by governmental organizations so quick look at those the same thing it tries to establish
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a similar web service that's easy to use just as easy to use but at the same time there's also a transparent layer of encryption so it remains easily accessible to people who want privacy for you know personal or professional matters but also it makes it so that even me the critter server can see what you're talking about we've been working on the project for almost a year now and it's getting better and better and me hopefully soon it will be very . very impressive we secure and how many people use that now well currently i think we're averaging about three hundred conversations per day on the server so considering that each composition has at least two people participating in it i would say there is at least six hundred people a day using it but the conversations metered up to ten people ok so why do you need to see a need for something like bath there are as you said a lot of weight for cam i mean how much of a demand do you expect there to be read it somewhere. well i come from the middle
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east where government surveillance is very well entrenched in in the countries there and i think that there are things like crypto card and things also like the tor project much less of a commodity and more of a need and here also in the worst there has been an unfortunate trend where are laws like soap came close to passing analysis to with which is quite dangerous and also in canada things like bill c. eleven and bill c. fifty and i think that's an unfortunate trend that might be driving away potential software engineers even journalists and human rights workers and so we see things like crypto things like that or project and other human rights computer software and move from the realm of a cannot exceed to a realm of in need around the world are people that do you make the transition to crept out papper is emotionally well do you think because they want to keep their conversations online private up so how do you know how do people know how are they
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able to trust that their information and well in fact the private. well it has been under development for almost a year now it's it uses strong encryption but we're still trying to make it one thousand percent safe so that it can survive even extremely tough situations for example when you're out on the field somewhere in iran trying to evade government that night you know do you harm in case they discover what you're working on but also people can know that crypto does what it says it does because the it's free software in the sense that the code is open it's really available people can check the programming code themselves they can even build it and even improve upon it themselves so our development process is absolutely completely transparent the code is open we even have we even use open standards in specific asians that are also freely available and there's a blog that documents the development process and you can you can yourself
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participate in making could look at better as a developer or you know as as a computer activist and you just mentioned how big social media has played for example in the middle east a lot of people say that the arab spring when have been what can be possible without social media that something like this were unable to be a kind of communications to happen without the threat of a government shutting down or without the threat of somebody watching them what is your vision or that's technology how do you how far do you hope this. i definitely think that computer human rights technology like this is extremely important i think it is it provides the infrastructure it doesn't provide the will you see the arab spring i think up and because there were many egyptians and tunisians who were very and other country people from other countries who were very brave and also very dissatisfied very grievous and i think that was the fire that made the arab spring possible but i think also that the computer you know human
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rights computer technology can all like hopefully critic out in the future when it's ready to be used in such very very dangerous situations and also things like o.t.r. and the tor project. i think they provide the infrastructure for those people who are very grievous with their governments to be able to carry out their protestations and civil disobedience more efficiently and to be able to avoid surveillance and possible counter actions from a government that will stop at nothing to silence them now this sounds like a great idea everybody wants privacy especially these days since it's becoming more scarce and i have to ask about the possible but that's because up to ten people can chat in complete secrecy at one time but about this operate being used for criminal purposes for terror terror plots child molesters you name it they can now communicate in comfrey secrecy and use this as
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a tour. i understand that concern and it's been addressed to me before i answer is that these. criminal people terrorists child pornographers they've existed for thousands of years and you're not going to resolve the issue by removing the civil rights of the majority of people who do not committed these actions these people are better resolve these people suffer from mental illnesses that's what drives them to do things like this and i believe that it did those kind of things are better results through education through social programs through outreach to people in trouble who do those things i don't think you will ever be able to solve these problems by simply restricting the freedoms of the rights of the majority of people and trying more and more and more to establish this security theater which just gives this pristine usia of everything being under control in reality all you're doing is just invading the privacy of people who just simply want to get a job done and simply want to lead
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a lifestyle that in which they embrace their typical civil liberties the better option instead of if instead of invading the rights of all these people in the name of fear then it is much better that you actually take out the problem at the root and actually figure out why there are criminals there that are committing these crimes and actually helping resolve the problem so that society is healthier in the first place ok but would there be any favors right now. in areas where there could possibly be people that are using our for criminal purposes. well it depends what you mean by safeguards if you mean that the software will automatically the text when it's being used for terrible purpose then i don't think it can counter security software at all but i think you'd have to elaborate by how you think such a safeguard could be possible. ok i mean i guess it would pick up a purpose and words came up were it would spark some interest in somebody possibly
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talking about terrorist related issues or are somebody you know using it so you plot their crime in a neighborhood this would all be kept secret presumably right and that's what happens right now i believe right now that there are some filters that determine for example in text messages i mean i'm from i come from montreal and recently we had a real a perfectly normal business an unknown trail citizen who was arrested because they thought that he was texting terrorist messages well in reality it was telling his friends to blow away the competition at a sports match and this is an example where this sort of technology can have an overreach that is really quite invasive and i don't think that if you want to work on privacy software that you can deem yourself to have the rights to be able to be selective about what remains private and what doesn't as i said before this sort of problem can always exist no matter what happens there will always be people who will commit things and it's better to resolve that issue by making society
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healthier in the first place from the beginning from the root you better education programs you style of social programs to prevent those things from occurring to prohibit people from being this desperate and that's the better way to solve those things it's better to do that than to wait until the problem. evolves and then just attack it at the same time as removing the civil liberties of everyone else and i mean examples like this can be seen developing not only in the east but also in the west. where it is being developed right now and any word on an app coming out for it. yes in fact we already have an op for google chrome but works locally in your chrome browser we also just finished an android up which is not on the up store yet but it's there's a development build the works pretty well and we're also coming out with a. i phone app in a black berry up very soon they're all going to be free and free software with open source code presumably just just the same as the rest of corporate. already if your
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browser and i.b.m. think you very much for coming on the show very interesting that was a dream kobe seen computer security researcher crypto. all the a lot of shows coming up in just a half an hour let's check in with a lot of to see what is today is agenda a lot of what can we look forward to. going big on drones on tonight's show first of all michael hastings is going to join us to talk about the cia's new push for signature strikes in yemen which means that they want to have the ability to strike without even knowing who exactly the targets are going to be and will speak to a pakistani lawyer that represents the families of victims of drone strikes there in pakistan who isn't being let into the united states the speaker conference. coming up next on the alone a show that's going to do it now for the news for more on the stories we covered you can head over to youtube dot com slash artsy america you can also check out our website it's r t dot com slash usa.
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