surely hope your emotions are rooted in. the but. tonight on our t.v. as tight and spent as there is converge on washington d.c. to discuss the world's financial situation maybe these leaders should be getting their lesson plans for a problem for profit schools because these money machines are doing all the right things except teaching students that is well explained. and for those of you who think big brother is getting t.m.i. and your computer conversations get ready to alow well because there may be a way around all of that it's called crypto cad and it helps guarantee your private discussions state outweigh. plus as the u.s. presidential race heats up so do the topics tax abortion contraception all the

candidates seem to have a lot to say about it after they get over the initial embarrassment of talking about it but why are these topics so taboo is the u.s. to prove. it's thursday april nineteenth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our. wellspring may be in the air but optimism about the world economy is far from blossoming and as the i.m.f. and world leaders descend on washington for their by any will meetings tomorrow europe's fiscal bows threatened to cast a dark shadow over the agenda today the i.m.f. chief christine legarde warned that the euro zone is at the quote epicenter of potential risk this as she sought to boost the funds coffers to protect against future threats and while the world's emerging economies may be willing to help they

want to have more of a say in the at the i.m.f. and return at the rising powers versus the old world order at the world bank and as artie's lucy captain of explains that clash is likely to dominate this week's meetings. challenges may be a plenty these days but few are holding their breath for solutions when it comes to this weekend's upcoming meeting of the international monetary fund and the world bank part of the issue is that the world is still grappling with a crisis a financial crisis that began here in the u.s. has spread to europe and in fact threatens to undermine much of the stability in the euro zone one of the biggest issues of course is that these institutions are led by european countries and the united states and rising economies that are in fact doing much better than many of the original founding member nations of these institutions are poised to do better at a time when these economies here in the e.u. western europeans are so much more reliant on their money and their help. take the

world bank for example one of the biggest charges leveled against it is the undemocratic way in which it's structured and american has always led the world bank and that has been one of the biggest issues despite a mountain challenge that saw a defeat this week now the united states often leaves the world bank but it has a board of directors that is comprised of twenty five members twenty five members but critics say hardly at all reflect its one hundred eighty seven member nations in fact some critics say that the bank is less about eradicating poverty as its official gold states and more of a neil liberal in the old colonial gang of thugs that imposes unfair policies in terms of the loans that hands out to the country as it tries to help and whether or not any meaningful reform will actually take place this weekend remains to be seen with the world especially the developing and rising world will certainly be watching bhartiya lucic in washington well the eurozone isn't the only place people

are feeling the financial pain college graduates here in the u.s. are too and has many asking are for profit colleges nothing but a scam many students say they're finding this out the hard way owing an enormous amount of cash and student loan. not able to get a job to pay them off and now attorney general for more than twenty states are reportedly taking the oldest to investigate for profit schools and take a look at this for profit schools make up twelve percent of all post-secondary students the graduation rate not so great at twenty two percent that's compared to a fifty five percent graduate graduation rate among public school and the sixty five percent private graduation rate among nonprofits that are registered and in two thousand and ten fifty four percent of students that go to these schools and of dropping out and two thousand and nine to five largest for profit schools reported that government grants and loans accounted for about seventy seven percent of their

revenues so it looks like it's taxpayer dollars that are footing the bill so our schools cheating their students very gappy associate editor at alton it joined us a little earlier to talk about this i first ask after as many of the apologies are more interested in money than educating students because it takes. well you talking about the for profit schools being more interested in making money it's starting to look like there's less and less difference between the regular your private schools and even state schools and these for profit schools that said the for profits are just if you have their showed pretty awful and now here in the u.s. student debt has surpassed credit cards and we saw the housing bubble is the student loan volatile going to be the next ones of burst well one of my favorite sadistic says that the student debt is actually gone up went up faster than housing debt did during the growth of the housing bubble i mean the thing that inflated and

popped and killed their economy and student debt was actually going up faster than that. so say are obviously not all college is are evil and want to make their money . there is something to be sad about going to college and getting a good education but which are which which are the ads that are just out to make a buck. well the problem with a lot of these for profit schools right is that they are there for profit their number one goal is to make money on you but they are pushing things like online programs that make it a lot harder for people to gradually they are preying on in some cases veterans in other cases more than half the students at a lot of the for profit schools are black and latino they're. going after people who are less likely to graduate in the first place and then are going to be stuck with this debt that they took out to go to the schools that they don't even have a degree to show for now who is to blame some people say well they look at the

student and say well you're the one that took out these loans and now you're the one that's responsible to pay them back other people playing these institutions oh who's to blame for this student loan crisis well i mean to try to blame just one actor is ridiculous but you know you look at rising tuition it's kind of seven hundred something percent in my lifetime which is the last thirty something years and it's a problem that has government issues it's got private lender issues the banks and the lenders who are making all this money on these loans are certainly lobbying for this investment in schools at the state level and are on in a lot of cases executives in banks or on the boards of private schools there's so many layers in which this problem has all sorts of people you can blame it's really hard to just eliminate. so now these schools the students are finding that it's not

worth going there because they go there to you know better themselves get make more money get a good job but they're not finding that that's the case so i mean well what ways does this mean the downfall of these schools or or what you think about that well i'm hoping it's the downfall of the for profits because they really are not as you noticed they are not doing good for a whole lot of people if you're only graduating twenty two percent of people that go there that's not even taking into account the amount of those twenty two people who actually get the jobs that they're promised to get in this economy and then they've spent however much money on new schools and even if you do get a decent job that's a lot of money to be paying back that's right and president obama has touted it advocated you know going back to school getting a higher education getting that degree even if it means doing it in unconventional way by doing it on line in our budget but maybe this maybe that's not the best advice well. return people tend to return to school and in the economy is

basically it's a good idea to get new training maybe but also it's something to kill time until the honey gets better you go back into school full time take out some loans and assume that when you get out in two years in four years that the economy will be better and you'll have new skills that will make that an investment it was worth it . right now we don't have any real proof that the economy's going to get much better ok sarah well what is the solution that is a more regulation. making sure that your school is a credit or or what is the solution what needs to be done because then i think it's only as a big problem do we need a short term personal solution for people who are in these situations right now which to me is don't go to for profit schools but it's not a really good answer right that not helping anybody and then we need long term policy solutions which is more regulation on these schools to make sure they're not predatory we need to reinvest in public education so people aren't stuck going to

whatever for profit school and we need to rethink the way we lend money to students and students maybe should also think twice before and rolling for those classes sara thank you very much for coming on the show that was sarah jaffe associate editor at alton at. we've been covering lately how much the government is getting more and more savvy with its surveillance capabilities and controversial bills like sopa and. to expand that power but there are some people taking action to keep their freedom of privacy one such man is now deemed kobe c. it was once a master hacker but now he's using his advanced cyber smarts not to make a profit that's a find ways to help people keep their online activities private and he invented this site it's called crypto cad and it allows you to send messages online and private it does this by using encryption technology so the messages are disguised to look like nonsense to anyone else. and it allows up to ten people at

a time to speak privately and a chat room i was there on earlier by hacker turned crypto creator and even called ac i asked him how he made the transition from master hacker it's a key to keeping people's on line business private. i don't think i was ever a master hacker i was all he's interested in hiking in the sense that it's a practice in which you use computers and digital means to establish tools that may be used for social approval purposes i was always that and i will remain that if you consider this to be to the finishing of a hacker but it would be perhaps pulling it too far ok but you're pretty good at what you're doing here so you're pretty good at acting. you got into trouble with the law as in the past well i haven't exactly been in trouble there have been some times where times been suggested to me that what i'm doing maybe perhaps dangerous

at night be you know it might be controversial but i feel that i'm lucky enough to be able to develop a cat. with a large amount of support thankfully and tell us about this project crypto cat what is it what is that how does it work. well a lot of people like to use facebook chat and google talk in web services like that and that's great but these services actually communicate what you're talking about to facebook and google and there is no privacy where you communications can easily be intercepted by these parties and also by governmental organizations so quick look at those the same thing it tries to establish a similar web service that's easy to use just as easy to use but at the same time there's also a transparent layer of encryption so it remains easily accessible to people who want privacy for you know personal or professional matters but also makes it so that even me the crypto server can see what you're talking about we've been working

on the project for almost a year now and it's getting better and better and me hopefully soon it will be very . very impressive we secure and how many people use that now well currently i think we're averaging about three hundred conversations per day on the server so considering that each composition has at least two people participating in it i would say there is at least six hundred people in the using it but the conversations make it up to ten people ok so why do you do you need to see a need for something like there are there are as you said a lot of rain for. it how much of a demand do you expect there to be credit soundtrack. well i come from the middle east where government surveillance is very well entrenched in in the countries there and i think that there are things like crypto cards and things also like that or project much less of a commodity and more of

a need and here also in the worst there has been an unfortunate trend were laws like. close to passing analysis to with which is quite dangerous and also in canada things like bill c. eleven and bill c. fifty and i think that's an unfortunate trend that might be driving away potential software engineers even journalists and human rights workers and so we see things like things like that or project and other human rights computer software move from the realm of a commodity to a realm of the need around the world now people that do you make the transition to crept out happy similarly well do you think because they want to keep their conversations on line cried so but how do you know how people now and how are they able to trust that their information and well in fact the private. well could look at has been under development for almost a year now it's use a strong encryption which we're still trying to make it one thousand percent safe

so that it can survive even extremely tough situations for example when you're out on the field somewhere in iran trying to evade a government that might you know do you harm in case they discover what you're working on but also people can know that it does what it says it does because the it's free software in the sense that the code is open it's freely available people can check the programming code themselves they can even build it and even improve upon it themselves so developing process is absolutely completely transparent the code is open we even have we even use open standards in specification that are also freely available and there's a lot of the documents in development process and you can you can yourself participate in making quick look at better as a developer or you know as a computer activist and you just mentioned how big social media has played for example in the middle east a lot of people say that the arab spring would happen wouldn't be possible without

social media or something like this where enable these kinds of communications to happen without the threat government shutting down or without the threat of somebody watching them what is your vision for this technology how do you how far do you hope to go. i definitely think the computer of human rights technology like this is extremely important i think it is it provides the infrastructure it doesn't provide the will you see the arab spring i think opened because there were many egyptians and tunisians who were very and other country people from other countries who were very brave and also very dissatisfied very grievous and i think that was the fire that made the arab spring possible but i think also that the computer you know human rights computer technology cannot hopefully critic out in the future when it's ready to be used in such very very the interest situations and also things like o.t.r. and that or project. i think they provide the infrastructure for those people who

are very grievous with their governments to be able to carry out their protestations and civil disobedience more efficiently and to be able to avoid surveillance and possible account reactions from a government that will stop at nothing to silence them now this sounds like a great idea everybody wants privacy especially these days since it's becoming more scarce but i have thousand about a possible dangers but that's because up to ten people can chat in complete secrecy outline time what about this are where being used for criminal purposes terror terror plots child molesters you name it they can now communicate income for secrecy and use this as a tour. i understand that concern and it's religious to me before my answer is that these are. criminal people terrorists child pornographers they have existed for thousands of years and you are not going to resolve the issue by

removing the civil rights of the majority of people who do not commit to these actions these people are better resolved these people suffer from mental illness as that's what drives them to do things like this and i believe that it did those kind of things are resolved through education through social programs through outreach to people in trouble who do those things i don't think you will ever be able to solve these problems by simply restricting the freedoms of the rights of the majority of people and trying more and more and more to establish this security theater which just gives this of everything being under control while in reality all you're doing is just invading the privacy of people who just simply want to get a job done and simply want to leave a lifestyle that's in which they embrace their typical civil liberties the better option instead of if instead of invading the rights of all these people in the name of fear then it's much better that you actually take out the problem at the root and actually figure out why there are criminals the that are committing these

crimes and actually helping resolve the problems that our society is healthier in the first place ok but what there be anything. from areas where there could possibly be people that are using a south african are. well it depends what you mean by safeguard if you mean that the software will automatically detect when it's being used for the terrible purpose then i don't think it can counter security software at all but i think you'd have to elaborate by how you think such a safeguard could be possible. ok i mean if i get that way to kind of defeat the purpose and words came it would spark some interest in somebody possibly talking about terrorist related issues or somebody you know using it so you thought their crime and a neighbor had this would all be kept secret presumably and that's what happens right now i believe right now that there are some filters that determine for example in text messages i mean i'm from i come from one tree all and recently we

had a real a perfectly normal business in an montreal citizen who was arrested because they thought that he was texting terrorist messages well in reality he was telling his friends to blow away the competition at a sports much this is an example where this sort of technology can have an overreach that is really quite invasive and i don't think that if you want to work on privacy software that you can deem yourself to have the rights to be able to be selective about what that means private and what doesn't as i said before this sort of problem. will always exist no matter what happens there will always be people who will commit things and it's better to resolve that issue by making society healthier in the first place from the beginning from the root you're stuck with better education programs you style of social programs to prohibit those things from occurring to prohibit people from being this desperate and that's the better way to solve those things it's better to do that than to wait until the problem.

evolves and then just attack it's like the same time as removing the civil liberties of everyone else and i mean examples like this can be seen as developing not only in the east but also in the west. where it is being developed right now and any word on an app coming out for it. yes in fact we already have an awkward google chrome that works locally in your chrome browser we also just finished an android which is not on the obstacle yet but it's there's a development build that works pretty well but we're also coming out with the u.s. i phone up in a block three thirty soon they're all going to be free and free software with open source code presumably just good just the same as the rest of. us will already have your browser and i.b.m. thank you very much for coming on the show very interesting that was nadine kobe seat computer security researcher crypto cat well from the battle over women's rights to the fight against porn to banning birth control now maybe the time to

question is america to prove remember this the super bowl halftime performance back in two thousand and four when janet jackson exposed her breast much of america was appalled the famous wardrobe malfunction led to the f.c.c. slapping a five hundred fifty thousand dollars fine on c.b.s. for airing at this all over a breast being exposed c.b.s. has been in a legal battle sense and an appeal was just filed to the supreme court just yesterday now a revealed grest is enough to stare at outrage and trigger court battles bustard europe and other on the other hand is much more open when it comes to sexuality and in countries like the netherlands france and germany where they preach comprehensive sex education teen birth rates are much lower take a look at this as you can see teen birth rates in the united states are much higher than these countries in western europe so as americans sexual repression are harming our health and wellbeing i pose this question to alex chance an adult film

star has her take on the matter i definitely think it is and where i have friends over in europe were definitely one of the more courteous countries. and talk about that a little bit how would you describe how our cultures are different when it comes to sexuality. over in europe i mean you can have nudity on commercials it's just it's more open it's more free over here i mean you can even entre kids out of sex education and that's right. what does that mean to interrupt you there i'm sorry no what i was saying though is it's just it's a country where it is there's so many things that aren't accepted in mainstream from like from any sexuality on t.v. i mean it's there's the bible belt there's everything here it's just and it is harming as i was reading earlier i mean i just heard you talking about the teen

birth rate saying we have developed countries we have some of the highest teen birth rates here i just think it's because they don't know about it and if you're not taught about sex education and how to protect yourself then no wonder we do now when you hear about the fight against contraception the fight against sex education where do you think that the u.s. is headed. i don't think we're headed to a very good plays and i remember i actually when i was in school i had been having five that occasion in my school in virginia they didn't teach in these high abstinence and my teacher used to teach in a school system where they did have it so he actually ended up closing the door and teaching us about condoms and birth control and all of that i mean if you don't have the tools then i just think we're headed to a very bad place to a lot more teen pregnancies and a lot more s.t.d. and why do you think that is it's interesting because in these places that try to preach abstinence and sexual education what ends up happening is that there is

a much higher rate of teen pregnancy. i mean because of course teenagers are going to have sex in a matter what you do so you might as well give them the tools to protect themselves otherwise they're just going to have sex and get pregnant and get s.t.d. is it's just what's going to happen they have hormones you can expect them not to and we are seeing that the stats are are backing that up now alex you are in the adult film industry and rick santorum he's not in the race anymore but here is what he's having to say about foreign take a listen. you draw your conclusion well you're whether the administration has not put a priority my conclusion is they have not put the priority on on on prosecuting these cases and in doing so they are exposing children to tremendous amount of harm and that to me says that they're putting. their foot in the unforeseen of this law and

putting children at risk as a result of that. now i would say what do you think about rick santorum is kind of war on par and he's not in the race anymore but he does cater to a very large base in america i think it's ridiculous i mean porn has been around for a very long time in one way or another it's not affecting the children it's just it's it's stupid. i think as americans you know we're all about freedom and freedom of speech and all of that so they can't really take away our right to have sex on camera and that's right and to eliminate porn altogether and that compared to the netherlands where things it's not even talking pornography prostitution is legal we see there as well that teen birth rates are much lower and sex crimes are much lower. i think when it's out in the open and when it's acceptable that you know

people are less likely to do it ok it's you know just the thing it's how do it ok and we are seeing that there is a big part of america that finds these things to be taboo and now it's what do you say to those people to that part of america that if fear is the moral that we're on this path of moral decline and we need to preserve these traditional values i mean we're always going to have values here it is america but i think it's harming us to you know we can to live in a tornado it's it's a fact where people enjoy it it's just like any other recreational activity i think if americans just become more open to things it won't put us on a moral decline will actually make us more moral if anything else because things will be open and do you differently and we see this kind of behavior and then at the you know these kinds of i guess values that are imposed we see these headlines

for example the cia over in colombia they were visiting some prostitutes over there so people at all levels are not immune to this yeah i was actually just watching that on the news before i got on here it's crazy i mean you should have a right to your own recreation. i can't argue with that alex let's say porn in the u.s. is outlawed no more porn no more no more adult entertainment industry. what is the u.s. like that look like for you. it doesn't look good i think that people would be a lot more miserable than they already are because porn is an outlet for people not just the futile watching but performers as well i mean it's a multi-billion dollar industry and especially with jobs that employs tons of people you know tons of people are helping the economy by watching porn you know it's i think people are already sexually or prost enough as it is and miserable

because of it so it's me there's no thank you so much for joining us today with alec you know it's adult film actress. well that's going to do it for the news for tonight but stick around the big picture is coming up at the top of the hour get ready for a government shutdown this time that's president obama who is threatening to close shop all because house republicans are going back on the deal they made with the white house over spending levels for next year's budget it's the tea party on one side and president obama on the other and it could make for a very ugly september today host tom hartman will ask the washington washington correspondent for the nation magazine with the consequences of a government shutdown just before the election would be that's all new in half an hour but that's going to do it for now for the news from around the stories we covered you can head on over to you to slash or to america or check out our web.