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bullfight strategies and syndicated columnist and adam buoyantly editor in chief of net write daily and welcome gentlemen put glad to have you all with us. there is a pile of secret money coming into karl rove's checking account hundred twenty three million bucks so far and of this sixty two percent and by the way that's more money and john mccain spent in the entire election right and and just and this is just so far hundred twenty three million dollars sixty two percent of money seventy six million dollars comes from fewer than one hundred people twenty million dollars of it comes from two people and we have no idea where they are my bet is think about this for about nineteen seventies. the value you didn't have the iranian revolution iranian revolution happened in seventy nine one nine hundred eighty s. reagan started selling the iranians weapons so the love republican reagan and clinton comes along and says no we can't do that and but dick cheney in ninety
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eight ninety nine is illegally selling iran stuff that could be made into nukes through halliburton so they kind of like him and then bush comes in and he takes out their number one enemy saddam hussein in front of this million people died in this war so i think ahmadinejad wants to have a republican president thirty years republicans out there not iran and then he's the guy that is given current as coherence to fund a party that's been advocating for tough sanctions against iran and maybe war against those right because the only word out of watching your party going to party is more about let's have more of them we'll talk sake shouldn't i mean for a party that's complaining about gas prices you'd think that they might want to lips about iran for a little bit yeah well look good the fact of the matter is last month obama raised about thirty six million dollars for his campaign he's actually raised more money than all of the republicans combined but it's all just what all it's reported dame's occupations and employers are reporters so the democrats are going to have
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the super pacs and they certainly are i don't think they're any more right than the conservative ones and i also think that we should be going after the c three c four work that we've got out of the i.r.s. i think the real problem here is that citizens united has created an environment where it is made these things far more blurry. i wouldn't have so much of a problem with the money coming into the system or out of this is that if we knew who the money was coming from that is this just sounds like typical you know election and that's scapegoating pointing the finger oh this phantom money is coming into play and i just pointed out where it could be identity which is you know not likely. why isn't the legal it's illegal for a foreigner. nationals to contribute to a campaign you know it is not illegal for them to give to a c. four because they should absolutely not and if you're going to the money it's not remember ac if we're going to say she's spending money that seems political technically is not political they can complain about barack obama or mitt romney as
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much as they want as long as they don't say aren't is lower they don't say. you know vote for a vote against they're within the law and so you're there is no evidence of democrats aren't taking foreign money but we're talking about this is just conjecture and just demonizing republican well i think that the democrats are taking money from this it's as. if it's i think we're also for going to that many small dollar donations also fly under the radar and as those are pulled together that equals a large amount of the cash is not what i mean i mean let's remember let's remember that the way that the reporting actually works you don't get to write like five million twenty five dollars checks to someplace to get into the radar the second you passed that ninety million dollars threshold is the minute that your name gets reported yes so we're not talking about people buying influence with a twenty five dollars contribution yeah i'm i'm i'm just standing by my. if you. can't karl rove prove me i'm wrong. ok today is the second anniversary of the b.p.
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oil spill today and some of the worst effects that are now being seen in the gulf shrimp fish was sore as well as crabs dying coral everything the corporate side though is back to normal in fact there's more drilling than ever before as the president was bragging about a couple of weeks ago on the other hand down in brazil chevron had an oil spill that was just a big compared to the b.p. oil spill it only lasted a couple days it was only a few billion gallons and maybe not even that brazil arrested today they indicted and they pulled the passports of a whole bunch of chevron executives including the american president of chevron brazil who's still stuck down there that is passport now three weeks later should should we be and they banned them. really shouldn't we be taking a lesson from brazil at home not at all i would think that would be the worst message to send to people that don't ever want that don't ever put criminal executives in jail one of the greatest we have right now right executive wasn't out
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there engaging in the activity of the actual drilling the executive didn't cause the spill motion to put the what they call another next or roughnecks or there's a word for guys roughnecks i think we're going to hold c.e.o.'s accountable even though their name is on the dotted line. maybe nobody's talking about not holding the c.e.o. accountable here we're talking about is jailing a c.e.o. for something that occurred out in the field beyond what they were doing at that moment i don't think. i'll to believe they should be responsible for it all i mean it's. at a certain point and this is the point about b.p. and the problems that we're now seeing from the spill at a certain point paying for the cleanup is just not enough you could do nearly irreversible damage. john reason if it's here's a here's one of the red i didn't die here's here's this one so this was summer is a tragedy it's not a you can't say it's a murder it's a tragedy it's something that was awful that happened that the form of fish yeah you know how morally i hate al gore he'd always explain it all as. you know you
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know i don't try to dance or if they want to be but at the end the day this is this is much like the fines we put on corporations when they've broken the law we think that we're going to impact their behavior by charging them look at google i mean google was charged twenty five thousand dollars on a five because they wouldn't give information to federal regulators actually he has already had to set up a twenty billion dollar. so that's that's quite a bit i'm going to quite a bit of money to us and to our government but what's not in this is even things it's not much money that we're. going to cough up for them if you know how much money they've paid out. how much money they've spent trying to deny people payouts that are but i would say this everything that you read about it now they're trying to remedy the problem actually. overpayments they wouldn't individual they were going to be trying to remedy that he said if they were is doing isn't a simple solution to this for us to do what argentina is talking about doing right now what cuba and we did what venezuela did what norway did nationalize our
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oil that's a terrible say you know you can you can drill but it's our oil you know what sarah palin doesn't last you know we were taken were private property result is really fairly expensive too just because b.p. had just gotten off a sawmill the oil the mineral rights right and that's private property i mean that is how is that private property there's a there's an oil pool that's a ten miles long underneath you so much it is a large much of the extraction of oil is done on land in the united states and so you're taking oil from the pool that happens to be in any of my house from your rig you're doing for me so you're saying that it's right over the public property and the government owns it i am saying i think the mineral rights ought to be in the ground and everybody in there we would have efficient extraction and people can't make money doing it right now we're going to stay on the island so are minerals to people i'm just saying we should we should own i don't trust the government in this case if they've nationalized it to adequately inefficiently be able to hand out
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these rights for your own try oil executives much more than i trust the government is often working out really well for the norwegians i mean they go to the high standard of life in the world right now we have pretty much a nationalized system in the sense that the president shut down drilling in the gulf after the spill for a few months yet and it never now it's back no it's not back exactly what is really going on now than there was beef they are not extracting the same amount of oil from the gulf of mexico as they did before the spill did it ever occur to anybody that one of the reasons that they were maybe taking more oil out of the gulf of mexico is because they were doing it safely we could not it is going to do it also they have actually shut down wells as a pretext to shut down the whole gulf and forgettable already in history as you know obvious ration. is yielding more oil than in the last eight. the obama administration has given more leases for new rigs than the previous administration this restriction has bent over backwards to appease people that the don't want alternative energy sources in israel at the same time while the same time there is
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an extremist alternative speaking of those people who are who who are p.p. is the c.e.o.'s of the big oil companies you know in america post reagan america pays to be greedy and screw workers apparently the a.f.l.-cio just came out with a new executive pay watch showing that the c.e.o.'s of the fortune five hundred companies average twelve million dollars a year and that's a million dollars a month that's a quarter million dollars a week that's just not and that that's an on top of a good stock options and golden parachutes the world was a rex tillerson a really really raymond i think the view the outgoing c.e.o. of exxon mobil took a four hundred million dollars retirement package that's that's what he got for his last week's work but in any case when reagan came into office the average c.e.o. is making between thirty and forty two times and the average worker does now it's three hundred eighty four times or higher. he's these banks toure's and these c.e.o.'s are making more than brain surgeons or rocket scientists this is happening
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and how destructive due to capitalism is it's not destructive at all what if these companies are doing a poor job if these c.e.o.'s are doing a poor job in the shareholders should do something about it if they are if their shareholders see that there are so you it would have been so much for the new york yesterday. no idea citi corp had a shareholders meeting but that's that when there is a problem was to say in the shareholder stood up in that case and they said no this is absurd this guy is drives right up into the ground and we're going to stop that and you know if he had boarded in response to that they told the shareholders to stick their head someplace every day they just said forget it but they're going to be seeing you paying these eight years what would pay them even though the shareholders voted to take away the executive compensation package and a company will be rewarded in the marketplace probably negatively. if i could just buy that stock is just going to do it didn't it didn't affect so we have a great capitalist system and we can all be jealous of the capitalist system we do we have as well you know that is socialist for corporate america and that's it that's what we want to do it crony capitalism is bad but you support
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a new one party capitalism you want all these energy contracts to be handed out to cylinder and all these awful compromises are not going to make money because they're free like nobody wants you know i love the idea the fact that our government helped invent the how that's crony capitalism that our government helped invent gulko that our government helped invent the transistor that our government helped invent the vacuum tube for that matter there's going to be a lot of things you can out of authority and i really did our job really and yes very yeah the original mac operating system came out of the star operating system on a xerox which came out of a government project not able to invent things because you can't make money off it and you think that bill get to the bill gates that was he a government employee when events and all these wonderful things that we use in the daily basis actually the government was one of the major clients for the original three point one operating system i mean these are simply facts and information but he. was right. i think the problem i think that probably you read into is that you
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can show a conservative government operating well. as the post office would opposed to tell republican losing money every year for the public access television i think you can sneak in quite a bit and get a few words out and tell the republicans changed the law in congress that made it so that the post office had to have enough money set aside let me finish for retirement until people that are not born until two thousand and twenty seven are already of retirement age or retirement funds for their employees yet you know what's new at versailles right here i know america terrible i know you're a corporation that has retirement this cast a thing to hear one hundred seventy years were either the i was having the listener is a poison pill but we got it we've got to have. more rubble coming up after. wealthy
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or about the big picture on a lot of panels and i had brian darling director governance studies at the heritage foundation and contributing columnist with the daily mail democratic strategist
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partner we will fight strategies and a syndicated columnist and alan adam city. adam by editor in chief of net right daily let's get back to it student loan debt is over a trillion dollars it no country in the world has ever seen anything like this the united states has never seen anything like this it has now exceeded credit card debt in the united states this is mind boggling and this is what representative virginia foxx republican from north carolina had to say about this. i have been a little tolerance for people who tell me to take graduate with two hundred thousand dollars. even they have. no reason for the. so she has no tolerance for people who graduate debt and then we discover that just last year she got fifty thousand bucks from the for profit colleges and you know so today president obama urged congress not to let interest rates and federal student loans go up they're going to automatically go up if congress doesn't act congress
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could act will cost anybody anything you're not going to raise taxes on mitt romney but the republicans don't want to give him this cost six billion dollars it cost six billion dollars yes that's what it's going to cost the taxpayer if interest rates are allowed to go back where they were before they were put artificially low at three point four percent that's what it's going to cost the taxpayer even though it's either way around it's going to there will be six point four billion dollars less revenue coming in if the interest rates don't go up if you're government forces down the interest rates like the president would like you know they're already down yet are going to rise right they're going to rise and he'd like to keep this is going to be less tax cuts there wasn't no it's expired if they had been this artificially low this was a temporary program that was put in place and if it all fired caught how adam can you call a three and a half percent interest rate when banks can borrow from the fed right now at point one percent how can you call three and a half percent artificially low but it is artificially low that it's actually got
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a mortgage for three and a half percent the government is mandating that that rate remain low and has obama's very good right now he would like to continue that rate to remain at the moment when your goals it allows this easy access to this money that wouldn't be going out otherwise so we shouldn't have people notice you have a bubble developing right now this is going to be a big problem it's a huge problem and i'm glad that you brought up the bubble that's big credit by the for profit colleges just very well we did see even isaac let's talk about colleges so more people can get there are there an order of magnitude more likely to have their students and in the room now first of all we need to us right away to use their so really only in their favor let's educate a lot of ice age a lot of the ongoing lot of people go to for profit colleges not for. degree so to speak but they go for certificates and whatnot and you know what for profit college so you go to phoenix and you want to get like a electrician certificate of some car and you might pay fifteen thousand dollars over two years for that there where you can get it for eight hundred fifty dollars a quarter at it at a at
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a community college but the worst part about it is is that that certificate may not be recognized in any other jurisdiction than the one you live in at that given moment and they don't tell you the state colleges are being discriminated against because they belong on the left you want to discriminate and say you can't get loans if you go to a for profit college why don't you go do it now you have like they are better they have to perform but now you're saying you want to get you know the other thing ninety percent of the money that for profit colleges the the large ones that everybody's heard of phoenix capsule and etc ninety percent of the money that they have comes from the federal government and in tell the students to defend and say hey this is important you know going to college if you don't want to get away all that's not true is that i thought it was just a little bit of the less i like your ass is a bigger issue than what we're debating at the moment right now the unemployment rate for eighteen to twenty four volts is near fifty percent these people are getting this easy credit they're getting all the loans and they're walking out of college with
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a huge amount of that on their shoulders and this is all the encouraged by the government this needs to be cut off and it would be more expensive if they got that at a for profit college and they would be less likely to do so they don't want to just do it like every other country virtually into the basket more than eighty five percent of all the countries in the developed world in the o.e.c.d. thirty four we see nations and provide free college education like we used to do that you know because i provide free college education when you can just pay corporations to do it for you like they do in the for profit corporations. it's about giving government money to the corporations is what it's about free of everything here are everything for free. well you know until ronald reagan came on university california's from and and you know a lot of people went to college there lincoln created langrigg. college system as a as free colleges missions the university used to be free but look at all these other ways regulated will never be able to win the republican nomination about yeah you know ok quick fire last question today is the day for marijuana this for twenty is the first one in history or
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a majority of americans support decriminalizing marijuana and two. let's see here two states right colorado california poised to pass referendums in november to legalize tax and regulate manufacture and sale of marijuana products so the question how many years until our nation starts treating pot the way that we treat alcohol at the very least either as a as a medication or as a recreational drug how long is going to say probably the same amount of time when we legalize crystal meth and heroin and other drugs very very harmful for you you're quite skeptical that this is going to it's going to even though a majority of americans i can't picture it happening any time soon because it's a great way for conservatives to play if you're probably thinks it's interesting and i wish it were going tonight but i think it'll be he's at least twenty years if not longer. find this interesting adam adam is probably the youngest guy here i think i'm hearing from the generation coming up that you know what's the big deal
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here and they haven't felt any desire to go to so down and they basically have legalized marijuana right now and they don't want to decriminalize it well there are a lot of people who make money off of marijuana being illegal sure but there are a lot of people that are making money off medical marijuana in california and i don't know i mean it seems like it goes back to the illegal intel when we got a shot down their medical marijuana initiative they said we can't have this in our state we can't change the landscape of nevada you know where they have not stopped gambling drinking all night with prostitution illegal brother just don't touch that one touch beer i want to legalize it and decriminalize it would not have a problem with the war on drugs here is that you have basically this this criminal cult. sure that we point out and say that's not we don't want to legalize drugs that culture exists simply because it's an illegal activity we learned that we learned that in the thirty's from prohibition brian darling crawl through a shattered by like thank you all for being with us and he's got a much greater. george
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zimmerman is out on bail today and one of the conditions of his bail is that he's not allowed to have a gun and i know what all the gun nuts are going to say something like how superman going to protect himself or how consumer who's innocent before proven guilty have his god given right to a handgun taken away in what is well known before taking away his pistol right i question is where does this mentality come from why do people think they need to be armed at all times to defend themselves why they think that rugged american individual isn't depends on having a revolver in your belt no question about it there are more guns here than anywhere else in the world more than two hundred million guns in fact so what's up with our nation's firearm fascination. i think this might have something to do with it
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john not john wayne personally but the culture around him beginning with novels in the one nine hundred century and then wildly popular t.v. shows throughout the twentieth century americans can fascinated with westerns they were the perfect escape from the dreary urban factories that most americans work in and they can find a regimented day to day schedules that most americans followed and westerns we saw the individual riding free on horseback through the west and most importantly armed with a six shooter gun fighting with bad guys in black black hats it's a romantic ideal that most americans of my generation in my dad's generation were hooked on and i'd argue it's subconsciously one of the reasons why the older generations of america place enormous importance on their guns to them what was depicted in westerns was american exceptionalism whether it's best only problem the
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real west was nothing like the west that americans watched on their televisions it was all a myth first wild shootouts totally the stuff of fiction and places like dodge city dead wouldn't tombstone fewer than five people were killed in the most violent year that any of those cities add in an entire half century were up bank robberies they were virtually nonexistent between eight hundred sixty and one thousand nine hundred the height of the wild west forty year period there were only ten actual bank robberies nationwide period that was it and as for the ideal that idealized life the life of the cowboy that's not true either just think about the toll the years the horseback riding took on progress but chafing the hemorrhoids the testicular cancer and are not making that up that's what happens to people who live on horseback and i thought mention guns are very expensive and not nearly as readily available as t.v. depicts. guns were pretty pretty microbes it was also the scorching heat the
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loneliness and the occasional for way into brothels i mean is this really the sort of life that americans should have brace and try try to bring about irons and irons the problem is that fiction is very powerful stuff and the myth of the wild west stuck and so too did our nation's fascination with the cowboy lifestyle and with guns even today i mean george zimmerman may have even had that cowboy streak believing that he was the lone ranger armed and ready to defend his down from the enemy grifters but here's the thing about westerns no one watches them anymore it's been a while and the few that have been come out recently have been a little more realistic showing how kind of gritty and awful it was back in the late nineteenth century the the my generation of my dad's generation were hooked on
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westerns and stockpiled most of the two hundred million guns that are floating around now but my kids and my nephews and most younger people that i talk to about this and share the same sort of gun fascination that i grew up with and my peers from grew up with just put you know it's very similar to the racist influence of the generation of thought against the civil rights act that's disappearing right now as those people are getting older and dying off a generational gun obsession is disappearing into a new generation of americans a generation of americans not brainwashed by this false mythology of a wild wild west where the noble college boy has his gun and makes everything right so to make this nation as that mythology dies out this new generation comes in is going to make this nation a much safer place to live. so for the big picture tonight for more information on the stuff the stories we covered visit our website the tom hartman dot com free speech dot org and our team dot com also check out our two you tube channel is
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