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coming to live from our studio here in central moscow this is our t. top stories now this hour the u.n. monitoring mission in syria is getting a major reinforcement of the security council unanimously votes to send three hundred observers to the conflict zone country that's amid reports of violations by both the rebels and government troops. there's a media blackout in france ahead of sunday's presidential poll ten candidates including the incumbent the concert causey to fight it out for the top job in a country hit by social divisions and record unemployment. and energy hungry china works to secure a slice of the riches chinese premier on a tour of the nordic states hopes to win support for beijing to tap into the
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mineral resources here beyond the optics of. a lot you put in for his coming up for you in that thirty minutes from now but in the meantime let's return to the second part of the n n issue in washington. well. it's technology innovation it's called the list of elements from around russia we've got the future coverage. ok it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're giving it to the g.o.p. darling and no it's not ronald reagan it's paul ryan who's become a d.c. lead favorite for his willingness to put his name on a budget a budget that's pro-military anti social program and in many respects not all the opposite of the obama budget now ryan's latest budget the precious defense
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department was left alone but domestic health care education medicare medicaid all of those things got chopped out over all ryan wants to get six trillion dollars over the next decade and so here are some of the targets of his plan he wants to cut three hundred eighty nine billion from medicare he wants to put seven thirty seven hundred scuse me and thirty five billion less into medicaid he wants to cut food stamps by one hundred thirty billion dollars a year and reduce domestic programs discretionary spending by nine hundred twenty three billion dollars but the funny thing about paul ryan is that a sign for wanting to tear apart social programs he's developed a bit of a bad habit bad habit of calling people liars here when he tried to defend his allotment for defense which gave two hundred fourteen billion more than the department of dental work with the military actually said was necessary will not only that is say that his proposed amount for the d.o.d. was accurate he also implied that the military officials didn't know what they were talking about when they said that the obama budgets to defense were ok he said the
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following he said we don't think the generals are giving us their true advice we don't think the generals believe that their budget is really the right budget so who do ryan was also ahead of the military dive about a man of many hats so as you can imagine general dempsey chairman of the joint chiefs of staff had some words for ryan and he said there's a difference between having someone say they don't believe what you said versus calling us collectively liars my response is i stand by my testimony this was very much a strategy driven process to which we matched the budget or the words. here's approach that paul don't try to. so one of our top military officials that you know his departments leave better than he does not to mention if you're going to call out the military leadership for being liars there is plenty out there to pick that thing if they actually have enough money that's one of the problems now it didn't take long for ryan to walk back that original comment but he actually didn't stop
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there when it came to people calling calling people liars you see the u.s. conference of catholic bishops have come out against ryan's budget because it slashes so many social programs that are necessary for helping the poor and the save incest the bishops message calls on congress and the administration to protect essential help for for families and vulnerable children and of course the poor first budget priorities and bishops letters oppose it measures that reduce resources for essential safety net programs so ryan supposal got criticized and in order to save face this is how he addressed it on fox news the catholic bishops conference has also come out and said that they don't like what the plan entails when it comes to cutting food stamps and also child credit for illegal immigrants but you think about that well we've always said we should be giving cash credits to people who are not here illegally. but she's following through on policy that's been pretty well responded to a bipartisan basis these are not all the cast of bishops we just respectfully
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disagree. so he just wants to say that the bishops that put out a statement don't represent all of the catholic bishops so again he's claiming that some of them are lying well sorry to break it to you but actually the statement is from all of the catholic bishops conference made a statement to t.p.m. reinforcing the bishops select some members to represent key issues on a national level so i guess that ryan's and burned by the people he was trying to call out yet again that's kind of comical right when he tries to boost the military's budget he has of calling the military liars i think it's called out when he tries to go after social programs and call the bishops messages unrepresentative he gets shut down too perhaps he should stop going around calling people liars and addressing their concerns instead hearing tough economic times we should not be giving the military more money than they're asking for and cutting social programs to pay for it no matter how many times these knock down he seems to stand back up
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dust off his pompoms and continue to cheer for most recent his most recent and right and most terrifying budget plan and so for all that paul ryan is tonight's tool time winner. now it looks like the f.b.i. has done it again this wednesday they seized an entire server from a colocation facility in new york and servers operated by the european counter network that's an ion speed based in italy which provided makes master anonymous remailer service it was also used by activist group rise up networks and may first people link so now the f.b.i. sees this server we have a warrant and they did it for investigation into the source of bomb threats were sent to the university of pittsburgh they have to ask is taking down an entire server really the right approach according to a statement from rise of the seizure silenced more than three hundred e-mail accounts between fifty and eighty e-mail lists and several websites so our guest tonight called this a sledgehammer approach so i guess the question is what will the feds learn when
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joining me to discuss it is devon ferry or spokesperson for rise of networks david thanks so much for joining us tonight and first question you know when you say it was they fled chamar approach what do you mean. well i mean that it's not likely to lead to any of the evidence that the f.b.i. is searching for the whole purpose and the design of the mixmaster software is to skate the sender you know through several different notes so the e-mail travels around through several different nodes in the network for actually ending up being sent to the recipient to mixmaster software it's designed for human rights defenders for people in oppressive regimes and it is it is designed specifically to allow anonymous speech you know our position is that anonymous speech is a cornerstone of our democracy and the f.b.i.
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doesn't seem to understand that well it's not just your position right we have the state department constantly praising these things you have hillary clinton the secretary of state praising these things and often especially when they apply to other countries right we even give money to develop software to help anonymous and help as it is in other countries so what do you i mean is there a breakdown happening between the state department and the f.b.i. . it is interesting isn't it how the messaging is kind of breaking down between the two agencies i'm not really sure. well i think creme lee doubt that the that they're coordinating their their messaging on this and it is pretty astonishing that you see the state department going out there and really with some very positive statements to about the importance of protecting free anonymous communications when it suits the political interests of the u.s. government and yet. f.b.i. actually did mystically to take this approach to take down all these e-mail
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accounts and all these web sites and e-mail lists and i should should note by the way that all of the e-mail accounts and web sites that were that were taken offline by this were run by you c.n.n. so there were no there's no rise up user data or right at the militants or lists that were impacted by the seizure however i should also note that e.c.n. it's really a precursor to rise up i mean rise up it's only been around since one thousand nine hundred nine e.c.s. been around for a lot longer than that they're really one of the first and the oldest internet service providers in europe that are doing doing this work for a very very long time so this is taken their entire site offline so it's a very huge impact and given the fact that the news reports from earlier this week indicated that. that the mixmaster software was likely involved in these bomb threats you know the f.b.i. knew that this was the case and they knew that they were unlikely to get any
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information from this so it really makes the question of why they've gone to the trouble of wasting our taxpayer dollars to you know engage in this. fourth man writes well what do you think the answer is. they just don't know what they're doing and they don't know what the player is i think they have. well i think there are several possibilities one is that they just don't believe that it makes master software was involved and they think that somebody would be idiotic enough to send. repeatedly said bomb threats from a single ip address without taking any efforts to hide their identity which basically would mean that somebody that they would assume that somebody involved in the c.n.n. is very stupid which you know so maybe that's what they think i guess the second thing is that they just think that we're totally lying and that we that the mixmaster software either is not installed on the system or that there is some way
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to. decipher the to determine the information. that they're looking for and the third i guess would be that they just want to harass us and i honestly don't know what the what the answer which one of the three is that is at issue here i would have to talk to the f.b.i. and from one stand they haven't issued any statements or responded to any media calls about this so yeah i know they're they're definitely heaving in this case but so then i want to the question we have to ask you as you mention of course that you see on the science these days and you're up there in italy and so then why are there servers here in the u.s. you know like at some point are actions going to start to backfire because this is definitely not the first seizure that we've seen of this kind of are people just going to start hosting their servers in other countries and i planned next perhaps . yeah i mean that that's definitely a possibility i think that in fact u.s. law is in many ways more favorable. and you know more protective than in other
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jurisdictions so i mean i think people are it's certainly not a data haven anything any stretch of the imagination but it's you know it's it's it's people see the fact that we have. a constitution that has you know since the founding days been supportive of anonymous speech we have a supreme simmers. court cases going back many decades protecting the right to associate and nominate anonymously so i think people view these traditions that we have in our in our government and in our kind of democracy as as positive so i think really the other thing that i think is really missing from the media coverage of all this is that you know anonymous speech goes back to the federalist papers i mean this is something that it goes back to the very founding of this nation so maybe the f.b.i. agents in the u.s. attorneys who were involved in this investigation should go back to first grade
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civics and really study their civics and history of this country which is really supportive of the right of political dissidents to speak anonymously and to be clear obviously we don't support bomb threats i mean that's that's that's that's our been our consistent position but the fact is there's no way to allow some anonymous speech and not one hundred speech and the whole idea is that it's either all or nothing so that's that's kind of the situation yeah well. it sounds like you probably have a lot of learning and reading to do in terms of going back and maybe just figuring out you know what some of the software is to devon thanks so much for joining us tonight thanks for having me on the program. just ahead on tonight still fireside friday and i'm happy hour chris christie has a real take us excuse for taking this news during a springsteen concert and fox news keeps different wars crusades and fates haneke music alive and well with new allegations that pop stars are from the.
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from the memories. of so much a long time i'm just here trying to help. i was. i was ashamed that i didn't. i was ashamed that i had been a hero why. my legs. would be out of court. and out what i was going upwards or i think. that i was a good fellow. but you know most older on the other side and i think i'm just as good. as secret laboratory. building most sophisticated robots.
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and about anything tim's mission to teach me why you should care about humans. this is why you should care only. to tonight's fireside you're. there paying attention probably know that the military commission process of guantanamo bay is currently going full steam ahead just the other week there were reports on the pretrial hearings of all dover hearing on the shiri he's the alleged architect of the u.s.s. cole bombing in the year two thousand of their of first amendment attorney representing media organizations argued for more transparency and for the testimony on the shiri who was water boarded to be opened by the judge chose not to rule on a decision there and all that was settled was that machinery could be unshackled when in the courtroom and he could need with his attorneys divider but that doesn't
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mean that the calls for transparency have stopped and you see there still might be more options the pentagon recently announced that the lead sheikh mohammed the self-proclaimed mastermind of nine eleven and four others will soon be tried in a military commission and get no where the penalty could be death and so now the attorney of one of the accused conspirators ali abdul as easily his attorney has filed a motion to challenge a court rule that keeps statements by the detainees secret is the all statements that are made by the detainees first started to be reviewed by u.s. military judges for national security implications before they're ever released to the public and so james connell the attorney is arguing for this presumption of classification and he points out that treating everything as if it's classified even when it clearly isn't contradicts both our democracy's need for transparency and its rules for protecting national security and instead he argued that these rules only serve to hide the truth about the torture that these men experienced you
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know and he's right if the government wants to contend that the treatment of these men was justifiable because it kept the country safe the i can't they talk about it openly and certain americans out there think that torture is ok and they support what happened. under the bush administration then why should they be able to hear first hand account at least read about it in a paper of what exactly these men were subjected to the truth is that it doesn't make any sense and so it shows you the many contradictions surrounding the way that justice is supposedly going to be carried out on ton of obey on for the nearly fifty detainees that have been deemed completely untried of all but just the ones that were tortured but the government still believes it actually has a case against the truth is there are national security is damaged more because of torture because of guantanamo bay because of our counterterrorism policies of broad including drone strikes night raids you name it you don't make more friends by occupying countries killing civilians and then preaching about democracy and the rule of law both simultaneously locking people up indefinitely after you've flown
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them to other countries to have them waterboard and who knows what else and secret cia prisons and it did not take a genius to figure all that out but like i said some people out there they see nothing wrong with torture they think it was worth it and i think that's easy to say we don't have to actually know anything about it when you can be shielded from the ugly truth and so if we really want to reflect as a country if we want to look inward and learn from our actions see where we want to go next i think there needs to be a lot more transparency in this entire process we're doing enough around the world every minute but allowing the press to properly report on these carriage trials is not going to do drastic damage to national security who wouldn't otherwise have it quite the opposite more secrecy only breeds more mistrust and more hate and it allows for accountability to be completely thrown out so we can't just sweep these actions under the rug and think that the world will forget oh i doubt of these legal attempts at less pontification will actually come to life let's at least
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knows that somebody out there is trying to bring them to light and hope of there might still be. it's friday it's library hour and joining me this evening archie producer adriana was zero and store in dayton republican strategist and senior communications strategist adds new media strategies a lot of strategy the strategy. on time. that will bite the strategy going i remember it ok anyway. this is just funny i guess right i mean fox news always comes up with a new moral war that's going on there's a pox on christmas of zero blood and now they're writing about how pop artists are turning to see tammy imagery to drum up concert controversy and sales of course
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experts say they use nicki minaj as an example here she did some recent performance where there was an exorcism on stage she says that she has this demon living inside her new romance but it kind of takes you back to it's of the eighty's a little bit haven't we seen this before. this is talk was contained in the oracle written by tipper gore which was given in the form of a full page of my hometown newspaper world what i would in this want to call news corp claims that one of my sources own through the bullied encouraging sadomasochism bondage and rape. believe she quoted have absolutely nothing to do with these topics. but i was so with the deals like they just got to rotate through again every couple years that's just what it is you know i'm just happy we're not talking about playing some of these things over first again. you know where you are going to that if you stand here you take away the goddess outfit
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turned upside down so some more practice just like i got a diva living in five years living in a nice night with already other ones also like kanye west also is profiting off of . whatever come on guys sometimes i don't know let's let's move on please let's move on to for twenty. holidays especially in many college campuses around the u.s. and boulder colorado boulder is especially big on this this year they're actually trying to clamp down. that's and this is the stoners new year's eve this is there are times where you boulder at the norlin quad officials here this is every year they get about twelve thousand people coming here lighting up right in the middle of campus this year they're saying you know if we want to squash this we're going to close the campus to outsiders. they're not just closing the campus to outsiders they're actually saying that they could issue tickets for trespassing they carry
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fines of upwards of seven hundred fifty dollars and up to six months in jail i think it's hard and i've mellowed that's what you just did oh no i don't really like what are these kids going to do they're just going to be there to hang around and probably play ultimate but some hacky sack syndrome themselves right like i care. you know i was amazed the university is spending a quarter of a billion dollars that is also ridiculous student government spending right where i didn't fifteen as a priority in the previous one hundred and that was really amazing to me but you know i can see both sides in this i played a lot of played more than my fair share of ultimate frisbee and. it is a sport so you know the lord has the right to tell you i want to do you see santa cruz where there's something very similar the haka done for twenty as what you see you see go there and so they did the same thing like here they wanted nobody you know outsiders coming in the campus and basically whatever one day because you take public buses to get onto our campus because it's up on top of the hill servitors
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walked and so you just had all these people like walking very close. and everybody still got to the. point all the money was just about security i don't know much it was like you're just down the drain. but speak about another you see though shall we i think that everybody remembers this now infamous incident from last year take a look. ah . so they've done two full investigations and reports into what they really think went wrong here and they mostly blamed it on university administrators you know said this is inexcusable but the actual cop that's the one that walk down the line of students pepper sprayed them all in the face didn't get fired that is ridiculous to me the fact that man did not get there i understand how that happened but that's that's ridiculous i would expect that the first thing one of the first things that
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would have happened after that was that immediate firing i would expect that it's crazy to me that he still what i'm paid at mr blake administrative leave is that what it is that's right you know the most powerful lobby in california they will be the police they spend fifty thousand dollars per person in the jails a lot more than students and they have work rules that go well i was going to be fired i mean that's what we're looking at but it's still crazy but i just really you were studying that these are not only very exciting but all the time though right if you want to talk about that with prisons you know with prisons whatever you have the city guard lavish release lovise or unions you want to go on the same thing in this case same thing but it's crazy though i mean the fact that the students were were complying like they were playing i think clear with the actual law then the police i think that's what i was reading about or anything clients of mine thank you it's been a long week guys i mean i guess the word today but yeah it's crazy though and i
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just don't understand it's i think it's you know disappointing. to say the least much like governor chris christie has really reached excuse for why he had his eyes closed at a bruce springsteen concert now before it actually happened listen to something that he said. i can't really understand his albums that i think of before one because when he performs the large it really tells you gives you a window into how he really feels about the music and and what he's trying to convey. so here you think you have to see him perform live to understand his middle class message then turns out he falls asleep at the concert and now i think he just had a nice clothes because he was having a spiritual moment that's called a car because that's what that is. really really like come on let's call a spade a spade like we all know what's happening there. i have been at concerts really enjoying the music close my eyes and listen i was a club last week and i just sat back and enjoyed the music for
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a little while and listening through springsteen concert when you see on the horizon and how could you close your eyes while listening to the boss come on guys how is it you don't want to leave i sometimes you want to just hear you're feeling in the room you're feeling in the interest of going to run you know disagree and going to spray things concert you stand around and get into it. like maybe he's tired after all the dancing he's got a gentle relaxed you see chris christie ok when we see the footage of him dancing i want to hear that exactly i love you so you know said i'll believe it i got to write it up because read it i think if you're going to join me that's it for night's show things personally and we've both here on my native state of scheduled maintenance but make sure you come back to think david's right is going to be here and this is the newest.
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