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promised max and stacy exposed the dark secrets of the global financial industry the cause reports the next. actually eyes are this is the kaiser report so how about a punk do you feel lucky states your work rights. are you seeing me being a hologram i see i see little i see tell me more well max i want to turn to this little clip of a performance given only in the last week. yes

when you see there that's two packs a curry i thought your product was dead i really was gunned down but thanks to james cameron's modern technology there is to patrick are performing again oh this is fantastic we've got zombie banks now we've got zombie performers. you know apparently the decision to do this with dr dre and dr dre has created this hologram eyes an artist previously known as tupac should care and i thought well you know this is a good metaphor for dr ben bernanke ece hologram of the global economy and the global reserve currency of the dollar oh it absolutely is you've got dr ben bernanke he creating a whole the ground of liquidity to mask insolvency is two packs a core with a hologram of animation to mask is death both are

milking the system unconscionably to packer's milking the outdated copyright system creating a digital rights ghetto and then you've got ben bernanke was creating a free out money ghetto is swirling about with trillions of whole of graphic do digital imprisoning. feel like currency whip and it is of course ben bernanke he's the money printing they allows for a kind of hologram of our economy there is no economy there but the problem with holograms of course is they could suddenly be turned off they could be hacked they could be just disintegrate into static well this is what happens over the earth in central iraq every couple of weeks they realise that the old ground is about to be turned off so they jack in another trillion euro same thing in the fed same thing in the bank of england same thing with central banks all over the world they're trying to can join their holograms to create

a global holographic central bank system to create the illusion of liquidity that mask insolvency but it's wearing thin at the margins the the digits are are are not holding together the little photons of of of illusion that we are supposed to believe represents economic activity meanwhile wages are crashing job. disappearing austerity is kicking in people are dying but that's not in the whole graphic recipe book of the sun for packer so this is the borat of course not it's like that matrix where the hologram of your life you think you're eating fantastic steak and well you know what ben bernanke you statistical numbers they show that you're eating princess to warm a steak can stand your eating pink slime exactly right joey pants only a little of the matrix remembers holding up that big fork full of safe and he goes i know this steak is not real but it tastes so good and he sold out his friends in the matrix and they were consigned to live for ever in the ghetto of losing their

bodies or batteries same thing with the allusion of money we know it's not real but it pays the bills for now in seoul the prison warden shows up and puts a solid into the good exactly well you know there's a similar thing going on here in the us you're seeing people starting to see their little deja vu moments the little static in the matrix in the hologram is falling apart the cat walking backwards exactly us at it are of the economist paper dollar and paper euro will debase in a big way so this is matthew bishop the u.s. editor of the economist and he was interviewed by the wall street journal about gold and why people have lost faith in the twentieth century religion of government backed up money so we're going to turn to a clip here by the way the wall street journal introduced the concept of gold as being somehow antiquated or old fashioned don't don't seem to and we hope to

another age there's no but you know you can reason it's come back into fashion of the last ten years if you're right and gold we trust is that you know people i think have lost value in the twentieth century religion of government money and this thing actually in a moment we're going to trust. money you little something with the euro you know the dollar and how it's being so much me imprinted on nothing i shouldn't trust in something more that well it is a religion isn't it it's a religion of paper money the financial times ascribed to this religion the economist the wall street journal they all before the religious event bernanke paul krugman of the new york times they all bow before the religion that the theocracy the fanaticism of paper money hole of graphic economic reality meanwhile the smart money the people with actual wealth the people who are self-made like myself are

accumulating gold and silver have been for ten years we can't wait for this thing to blow up just turn off all the graphic paradigm now it's because my gold will need to be repriced of five thousand dollars an ounce i'm going to buy stacy a bridge new shirt. hair do you have here you know plates you know he says that he's become an ide gnostic or an atheist with regard to his belief in government backed money as he fears that governments are in a position where they are going to do peace currencies in a big way now the economist magazine has been saying for years basically ridiculing goldbach's so you're starting to see though that there are just too many cats walking backwards in this whole the ground for them to. you know we have this faith that the governments and central banks can somehow maintain this holy ground it's all going to be ok but the insiders behind the whole gram machine they're

starting to worry him and buying gold he's still atheist he's lying this is a disease or he's a closet gold buyer who for the purposes of maintaining his position as a propaganda meister must now claim to be oh i'm an atheist i don't believe in the religion of paper bodum anymore. but the paper buggery which is destroying the global economy but we know on the sly he's buying gold and he's buying it in the. end just to look at this paper death and he talks about the whole grandma always falls apart headline sieur be indexed back to seven hundred forty nine to present in this with some very repulsive site and it's jeffrey's commodity index you see quite clearly there that inflation bottomed out in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight and then look at the inflation collapse of the dollar essentially since one thousand nine hundred sixty eight when charles and paul asked for the gold back right well look the dollar creation says nine hundred sixty eight so it's nineteen

seventy one cents us close the gold window there was always this quid pro quo will increase the currency will increase the and dead of this other country there'll be some g.d.p. growth as a result of it and the net result will be higher g.d.p. growth and debt creation and this has gone back and forth for decades but as you thousand and eight we have the wall there is no more growth from debt creation there now trying to desperately pump up the debt the wall of debt to create any kind of g.d.p. growth but it's not working as work for four or five years now and now people are starting to realize or so and say well maybe it's not a religion i becoming agnostic i've become an atheist that's one step too i hate paper i'm buying goal because i realize that they can't get any g.d.p. how many transfusions they put in this corpse there's a zombie there's two parts a cure all the graphic digital non existant economy it's not creating jobs or force not creating real savings it's not creating real capital you can't have capitalism

without capital and this isn't capital it's just digital losers all of electrons dancing on the head of a pin well let's look at who else in the world importantly those who have the resources are also looking at these people living inside the whole of gram and they're pretty concerned about asshole ogram liveris roussel. war is a tsunami of money brazilian president dilma rousseff used her opening speech at the six summit of americas to reiterate her criticism of western monetary policy which she said was damaging latin american industry the summit which was held last weekend in carter haina colombia brought together thirty three heads of state from across the americas including the u.s. president barack obama dilma rousseff reiterated her criticism of european and american monetary policy she said of course we must take action to defend ourselves to defend is different from to protect it means not letting our manufacturing sector be cannibalized broaching is defend their exports why not allowing

the federal reserve in washington to screw up with global money surprise supply and dilma rousseff when she was in the white house or barack obama looked as though she was about to go into a big old snap and say look stop it stop it like she was lecturing him and barack was like a little boy chooses to miss she's holding up a piece over you didn't hear you didn't see it mostly well that would have really been garlic to the vampire. so again this whole ground we return to the whole ground max lottery sectors beating triple a provide winning bet muni credit want to win the oregon or florida lottery don't purchase tickets buy their bonds instead so here you have this gulag casino state where most people are inside the hole the ground where we're all having fun and mega millions are there for everybody but the only ones getting rich are the ones holding the bonds the one who

holding the the gold the silver the real fangs well it's a sub prime market was a lottery banks were dishing out mortgages like lottery tickets with one in a million and one in ten million actually making any kind of economic sense they sold those subprime backed bonds in the global markets and made a killing rather removing all guys of there being any. economic justification whatsoever they're just commodifying and selling lottery backed bonds well again there is the other crucial ingredient to this one cannot live in a hologram in one unless one chooses to live in a hologram with two posh occur over fifty percent of those questions on huffington post said they would totally pay to go see him why not it's just as real as the real two pox occur to them so these people who live in this whole again society lots of people rising up around the block to go buy a mega millions even though they know they're there they would be better off buying bonds backed by those mega million lottery tickets but people choose to live the

whole grab yes they would pay to go see a virtual to pact with their virtual money nobody would give a gold or silver age get to go see a virtual too perfect no they're too smart for that so finally max we live in this whole the ground here america's prescription drug addiction suggests the sick nation the growing taste for prescription opioids in the us is a concern what is it about our way of life that necessitate such relief and i'm not even going to go into the numbers we all know it's like quadrupled in terms of like value nomen and various that opiates so but what about our lives is so painful oh it's great consciousness to go alone to fake money and it's fake sure so you have a three hundred sixty three full spectrum nonsense there's nothing real anywhere amongst it in the garden of deception that is the u.s. global economy led by ringmaster in chief ben bernanke you know the central bankers

do you. digital god and you know after dr ben bernanke you believe the federal reserve i think dr dre would make a next nice federal reserve chairman that is so fast eight c. everett thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thank you doug away much for coming away stay right there.

i am max kaiser welcome back to the kaiser report special guest alec empire from atari age riot alec while the kaiser report thanks for having me you've been very vocal on the issue of copyright and on the issue of anonymous let's start with copyright do you think the act so people like cetera are the fight against fascism of our time. yeah you know i think this was always a very complex discussion you know where does creativity stock where does it stop and you know what my fear is that all those laws are being used you know the day against political blogs you know it begins freedom of speech you know to me that's like the direction and setting you know so i have to go home and trespass. tech my

music or something with men with guns it's i don't have doubts and well guns wasn't my next question when the r i a the recording industry association of america would justify sending goods to shakedown single mothers and kneecap grannies they say they're doing so in order to protect artists like yourself your thoughts i often never received that type of money. from that some i think they protect the powerful in that industry that's the only thing the system is set up to protect those you know i think the majority of artists never really gets their fair share so i don't really trust that type of strategy at all you know and also i thinking so many big corporations who steal from the artists rather then you know some kid in a bedroom you know. it is kind of absurd to me to use that kind of pause

on an issue like that it seems like the dynamic is changing somewhat in the argument that they're protecting the artists is what is wearing thin now you write quote i came to the conclusion that men with guns employed by the government kids and want to protect me from situations like this in the future you're writing about your experience with sony stealing your own music tell us about this big corporation yeah you know it was crazy like over ten years ago i got this v.h.s. tape from a team that was doing a documentary on nine inch nails a tour they'd done and we were together at that time so they thought they recorded an ad but. in asia dead where our music suddenly appeared for a camcorder you know and i was furious i was like they never have a permission to do that and then it was crazy to you know to fight this card because we're like a small team of people and you can play basically and. band so you know how do you

go about this in asia you know and it was you know good kind of sad but you know we speak about all these topics in our song so. politics and stuff so suddenly when you see a song on a piano ned you know the whole thing's compromised and corrupt you know and it loses its meaning so it's about much more than you know getting whatever thousand dollars or something you know i mean so tired of it. when you guys started out really twenty years ago yeah like the first record we released about twenty years ago was like a wide labor also interesting like you know it was hard to get music out back in the days so you you did press finally you know and it was almost like a very independent network starting with the techno scene the underground scene and you know nobody i had

a copyright and things like that it was like get the music out get the message out sell the stuff if you can and your network with other people you know while a major record label is we almost stop that innovation from happening and if we look at music now. you know this was like the most important innovation probably the last twenty years was like a pop and techno music you know so and this stuff you know deejays were using records creating new music from that so you know it is that that feeds right into that debate is you know like where do you draw that line you know because i think you can be so strict about everything that music just doesn't move forward you know we see it i think we see on one side the major record labels who are like so backwards and so you know putting out very boring music you know and to me that is the problem of the music industry crisis you know that they are stuck not only of the way this selling music but also just the music they are pushing you know it

feels like in the sixty's or fifty's even sometimes to me you know you see some woman some blonde woman like singing a ballad while. you know there's so much going on with like the japs step scene in the underground like people using noise you know like hip hop stuff it's. so much more exciting you know but it is not being recognized enough you know industry ballots it's our teenage riot when it started there was a political edge to it it was right out of the songs or anti neo nazi at that time i fascism you could say. during this period of time it's twenty years while facing toward the enemy from the previous generation there's a new enemy kind of crept up behind us behind you guys behind musicians it's a new fascist regime with these hardcore technocrats now discipline italy is the circle coming around that does the audience your audience

see it this way that there's a there's a connection politically what you're talking about twenty years ago and this this techno technocratic regime if you i think you know what was interesting that we you know we started shortly after the burden was you know and i think i've seen so much like in eastern you know socialist germany no in terms of like civilians the way technology was used to spy on people and i think this is so relevant now to many people because i did the way technology is used abused by those in power is you know i did kind of goes into their direction and i you know if you look at apple or facebook or you know those types of companies it's almost like they they want to build films. which is integrated you know indeed internet or whatever they call a walled garden ok so that's that's as it passed with digital rights management it's in their walled garden and the access to these places is becoming expensive yeah

and to me that's the death of me i'm dead idea because it's you know we should be able to connect with each other and and exchange information you know and if that is not happening anymore you know what's the internet is becoming another form of television on. you know that's how it feels sometimes right cable t.v. where it's paper if you know you've donated your fee from sony using your song. black flags to the anonymous defense fund yeah so talk a little bit about this is part of a strategy of sliding back in how can musicians like yourself now fight back hey you know to me it was like anonymous like there was so many activists who helped us you know spread the music and because we rode about you know basically the bradley manning case and we can lease we wrote the song called black legs and we had so much support so when this thing came up like i was able to place there be like

sneak it into. an ad like a few months ago or. so and it was starting to sell and promote so i was ok is that for me because it was a little like a revenge thing then i was able to put that exactly that track and into that ad and you know i thought ok does this money would be you know could be used very well you know unquote too because i think everybody should have the right to defend themselves you know and to afford the right type of lawyer so i was like ok you know the moment arrived on my account i was transferred on so you know i was kind of getting a lot of angry phone calls and then from those guys but you know whenever we mention the redirecting the funds that of course redirecting funds as big with let's say the joint assignment wiki leaks and. site of course the banks around the

world shut him out of credit card companies that pay pal shut him out so just moving money around becomes a political ax yes now going back even before the berlin wall was go back to the one nine hundred sixty s. ok music at that time of course was instrumental in stopping. vietnam war and it was really politicized because in the fifty's it was very lawrence welk and not very political at all and in the sixty's came around as highly politicized that it would fit right into that anti-war movement and so here we are twenty twelve there is a digital war going on. a story a teenage riot is really a digital hardcore you more or less invented digital hardcore so it's that is this is a war on mean it's been called into the war is this really as your music ever been more relevant or more essential yeah you know i think this is

really about the artist taking the power back you know and i think. yeah we're facing an industry which is really hostile. us and the also the the freedom of speech thing you know like i mean we've seen it with when the iraq war started you know with the way dixie chicks were bullied you know where were you stations like the record industry and i'm like you if you not allowed anymore to write a song about you know how you feel about certain things like music is also becoming so boring to me the most exciting music was created close up and the time you mentioned you know end of the sixty's you know i think the music industry has stood draws from that a lot you know i guess specially in the u.k. it's almost like they're constantly looking back to that time right now so and that's i think the same with punk rock you know end of the seventy's which we flecked to the crisis in society then i think hoopla you know we would never have

thought about many of the racist racism and stuff like that in america if it was in play the music you mentioned if pop you were just at the cello you performed and two packs a core whole a gram the holy grail a two pack performs so this is a this is a new. chapter in the digital copyright phenomenon they resurrected from the dead centrally hip hop artist is performing. this is perpetual copyright two pac is is never apparently eternal but his his royalties will continue and presumably they can create a new two pack music at some point what how do you see this develop to me it's almost like. it's like a metaphor and you know. the industry is a team like walking zombies you know it's like either you have like puppets. to do stuff like that of cause and there's the fascination for the technology maybe if

you go oh this is even possible but then i'm going to ok you could have caught it it was something with the magic whatever to me i wasn't that blown away by that thing i have to say it was a. good you know that you know it was that musically exciting to to have somebody from the past in your contract going forward would you have a clause in there that know a whole a graphic alec empire is to be performing after your death. some. election campaign something yeah i know if we need that i guess i have to do that right. all right well we're out of time alec empire of atari teenage riot thanks for being on the kaiser report yeah thank you so much all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert ira thank my guests alec empire of atari teenage riot going to seven email please just our ties are reported r t t v are you. saying.

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