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a slice of the arctic and some top mineral resources with the chinese premier on a tour of the nordic state. are taxed at max and stacey delve into the hidden dangers of what they call illusionary economics of series he's the kaiser reporters act. maximizer this is the kaiser report so how about a punk do you feel lucky states there were. are you seeing me very seeing a hologram i see i see little boys tell me more well max i want to turn to this little clip of a performance here and only in the last week. yes will you see there that's too crap shoot her i thought tupac was dead i really was

gunned down but thanks to james cameron's modern technology there's two parts of her performing again oh this is fantastic we've got zombie banks now we've got the zombie performers. you know apparently the decision to do this was dr dre and dr dre has created this hologram as an artist previously known as care and i thought well you know this is a good metaphor for dr ben bernanke he's hologram of the global economy and the global reserve currency of the dollar oh it absolutely is you've got dr ben bernanke the creating a whole the ground of liquidity to mask insolvency there's two packs a core with a hologram of animation to mask his death both are milking the system unconscionably to packer's milking the outdated copyright system

creating a digital rights ghetto and then you've got ben bernanke he was creating a free out money ghetto is swirling about with trillions of whole of graphic digital imprisoning. feel like currency whip and it is of course ben bernanke he's the money printing nick allows for a kind of hologram of our economy there is no economy there but the problem with whole of grams of course is they could suddenly be turned off they could be hacked they could be just disintegrate into static well this is what happens over the pain sufferer back every couple of weeks they realise that the whole of graham is about to be turned off so they jack in another trillion euro same thing the fed same thing or the bank of england same thing that central banks all over the world they're trying to can join their holograms to create a global holographics uncle bank system to create the illusion of liquidity to mask insolvency but it's wearing thin at the margins the the digits are are are not

holding together the little photons of of of illusion that we are supposed to believe represents economic activity meanwhile wages are crashing jobs. disappearing austerity is kicking in people are dying but that's not in the whole graphic recipe book of the central focus of the choose to ignore it of course not it's like that matrix where the hologram of your life you think you're eating friend task extinct and well you know what ben bernanke the statistical numbers they show that you're eating contest a gourmet state can state you're eating pink slime exactly like jelly petal yellow of the matrix and every sold enough that big forkful of states and he goes i know this steak is not real but it tastes good and he sold out his friends in the matrix and they were consigned to live for ever in the ghetto of losing their bodies as

batteries same thing with the allusion of money we know it's not real but it pays the bills for now it's all the prison warden shows up and puts a sol into the exactly well you know there's a similar thing going on here in the us you're seeing people starting to see their little deja vu moments the little static in the matrix in the hologram is falling apart the cat walking backwards exactly us editor of the economist paper dollar and paper you're a world based in a big way so this is matthew bishop the u.s. editor of the economist and he was interviewed by the wall street journal about gold and why people have lost faith in the twentieth century religion of government backed the out money so we're going to turn to a clip here by the way the wall street journal introduced the concept of gold as being somehow antiquated or old fashioned was gold dust. and would harken back to another age doesn't it but i'm sure you know who reasons come back into fashion of

the last ten years as we write and go we trust is that you know people i think have lost are you in the twentieth century religion of government money and listening to the moment we're going to trust. money you know what's happening with the euro you know the dollar and how it's being so much printed and missing and she wouldn't trust and the more that well is a religion isn't it it's a religion of paper money of financial times ascribed to this religion the economist the wall street journal they all before the religious ben bernanke the paul krugman of the new york times they all bow before the religion that the theocracy this analysis on of paper money hola graphic economic reality meanwhile the smart money the people with actual wealth the people who are self-made like myself are accumulating gold and silver have been for ten years we can't wait for

this thing to blow up just turn off all the graphic paradigm now it's because my gold will need to be repriced at five thousand dollars an ounce i'm going to buy stacey a brick and new shirt. hair do you have here no but it's you know he says he's become an ide gnostic or an atheist with regard to his belief in government backed money as he fears that governments are in a position where they are going to debase currencies in a big way now the economist magazine has been saying for years basically ridiculing goldbach's so you're starting to see though that there are just too many cats walking backwards in this whole the ground for them to. you know we have this faith that the governments and central banks can somehow maintain this hologram and it's all going to be ok but the insiders behind the whole gram machine they're starting to worry and buying gold he's still a theist he's lying this is

a disease or he's a closet gold buyer who for the purposes of maintaining his position as a propaganda meister must now claim to be oh i'm an atheist i don't believe in the religion of paper bodum anymore. this is a paper buggery which is destroying the global economy but we know on the sly he's buying gold and he's buying it in this and just to look at this paper. but he talks about the whole gram always falls apart having c. or b. index back to seven hundred forty nine to present and this was from barry ritholtz the site and it's the jeffries commodity index you see quite clearly there that inflation bottomed out in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight and then look at the inflation the collapse of the dollar essentially since one thousand nine hundred sixty eight when charles de gaulle asked for the gold back right well look the dollar creation says one thousand nine hundred eighty eight seven hundred seventy one cents us close the gold window there was always this quid pro quo will

increase the currency will increase the and headed this other country there'll be some g.d.p. growth as a result of it and the net result will be a higher g.d.p. growth then debt creation and this is gone back and forth for decades but as you thousand and eight we have the law there is no more growth from debt creation there now trying to desperately pump up the debt the wall of debt to create any kind of g.d.p. growth but it's not working as work for four or five years now and now people are starting to realize or so i'd say well maybe it's not a religion of becoming agnostic i've become an atheist that's one step two i hate paper i'm buying goal because i realize that they can't get any g.d.p. number how many transfusions they put in this corpse there's a zombie there's two particular hole the graphic digital non existant economy it's not creating jobs or force not creating real savings it's not creating real calkin all you can have capitalism without capital and this isn't capital it's just digital loses all of electrons dancing on the head of

a pin well let's look at who else in the world importantly those who have the resources are also looking at these people living inside the whole gram and they're pretty concerned about us holmgren liveris rousset. warrens of tsunami of money brazilian president dilma rousseff used her opening speech at the six summit of americas to reiterate her criticism of western monetary policy which she said was damaging latin american industry the summit which was held last weekend in cart to hannah colombia brought together thirty three heads of state from across the americas including the u.s. president barack obama dilma rousseff reiterated her criticism of european and american monetary policy she said of course we must take action to defend ourselves to defend is different from to protect it means not letting our manufacturing sector cannibalize rights genies defend their exports by not allowing the federal reserve in washington to screw up the global money surprise supply and

dilma rousseff when she was in the white house or barack obama looked as though she was about to go they give him a big old snap and say look stop it stop it like she was lecturing barack was a little boy chooses to miss he's holding up a piece over you didn't hear he didn't see it mostly well that would have really been garlic to the vampire. so again this whole ogram we return to the whole ground max lottery sectors beating triple a provide winning bet muni credit want to win the oregon or florida lottery don't purchase tickets buy their bonds instead so here you have this gulag casino a state where most people are inside the hole the ground where we're all having fun and mega millions are there for everybody but the only ones getting rich are the ones holding the bonds for one whole holding the gold the silver the real things

the subprime market was a lottery banks were dishing out mortgages like lottery tickets with one in a million and one in ten million actually making any kind of economic sense they sold those subprime backed bonds in the global markets and made a killing now there and removing all guys of there being any. economic justification whatsoever they're just commodifying and selling lottery backed bonds well again there is the other crucial ingredient to this one cannot live in a hologram and one unless one chooses to live in a hologram with tupac shakur over fifty percent of those questioned on huffington post said they would totally pay to go see him why not it's just as real as the real two pox occur to them so these people who live in this holy ground society lots of people lined up around the block to go buy a mega millions even though they know they're there they would be better off buying bonds backed by those mega million lottery tickets but people choose to live the whole gram yes if they would pay to go see

a virtual two pack with their virtual money nobody would give a gold or silver ingot to go see a virtual to crack no they're too smart for that so finally max we lived in this hole the ground here america's prescription drug addiction suggests the sick nation the growing taste for prescription opioids in the us is a concern what is it about our way of life then assess the state such relief now i'm not even going to go into the numbers we all know it's like quadrupled in terms of like value and various that opiates so but what about our lives is so painful let's create consciousness to go a lot of fake money in the states or cure. they have a three hundred sixty three full spectrum nonsense there's nothing real anywhere amongst in that garden of deception that is the u.s. global economy led by ringmaster in chief ben bernanke you know the central bankers who said you. this is all garbage and you know after dr ben

bernanke you believe the federal reserve i think dr dre would make a next nice federal reserve chairman that is. say ever thanks so much for being on the kaiser report thank you go a much more coming away they write their. currency crisis. cuts. tragic integration. who will be left standing with the people in. the french election party. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you don't i'm sorry look at the big picture.

i am maximizer welcome back to the kaiser report special guest alec empire from atari. riot alp welcome to the kaiser report hi thanks you've been very vocal on the issue of copyright and on the issue of anonymous let's start with copyright do you think the act so people like cetera are the fight against fascism of our time. yeah you know i think this was always a very complex discussion you know where does creativity stock where does a stock and you know what my fear is that all those laws are being used you know the day against political blogs you know it against freedom of speech you know to me that's like the direction it's heading you know so i never. trust. ok my music is something with men with guns. and you know that's all guns that was in my next

question when they are i am the recording industry association of america what justifies sending goods to shakedown single mothers and kneecap grannies they say they're doing so in order to protect artists like yourself your thoughts i often never receive that type of money from that some i think they protect the powerful in that industry that's the only thing the system is set up to protect those you know i think the majority of law is never really gets that passion so. i don't really trust that type of strategy you know at all you know and also i've thinking so many people operations who steal from the artists rather then you know some kid in a bedroom you know it's kind of absurd to me to use that kind of four hours of fun on an issue like this it seems like the dynamic is changing somewhat and the

argument that they're protecting the artists is what is wearing head now you're a quote i came to the conclusion that men with guns employed by the government and want to protect me from situations like this in the future you're writing about your experience at sony stealing your own music tell us about this big corporation yeah you know it was crazy like over ten years ago i got this v.h.s. tape from a team that was doing a documentary on nine inch nails a tour they'd done and we toured together at that time so they feel they recorded an advert. in asia dead where our music suddenly appeared for camcorders you know and i was puritans i was eight they never had the permission to do that and then it was crazy to you know to fight this and card because we're like a small team of people and you can basically end the band so you know how do you go

about this in asia you know and it was you know we got kind of sad but you know we speak about all these topics in our song so. politics and stuff so suddenly when you see a song appear in an ad. even the whole thing is compromised and corrupt you know and it uses its meanings so it's about much more than you know getting whatever. dollars or something you know i mean so. when you guys started out really twenty years ago yeah like the first record we released about twenty years ago was like a white labor was so interesting like you know it was how to get music out back in the days so you know you did press finally you know and it was almost like a very independent network starting with the tech not seen the underground scene and you know nobody i had of a copyright and things like that it was like get the music out get the message out sell the stuff if you can and your own network with other people you know while the

major record labels we almost stopped that innovation from happening and if we look at music now. you know this was like the most important innovation probably the last twenty years was like a pop and techno music you know so and the stuff you know d.j.'s were using records creating new music from that so you know it is that dead feeds right into that debate is you know like where do you draw that line you know because i think you can be so strict about everything that music just doesn't move forward you know we see it i think we see on one side the major record labels who are like so backwards and so i could you know bring up very boring music you know and to me that is the problem of the music industry crisis you know that they are stark not only of the way that selling music but also just the music they are pushing you know it feels like the sixty's or fifty's even sometimes to me you know you see some woman some

blonde woman like singing about it while. you know there's so much going on with like the gaps step. in the underground like people using noise you know like hip hop stuff it's. so much more exciting you know but it is not being recognized enough you know but the industry now it's it's our teenage riot when it got started there was a political edge to it it was grow a lot of the songs were anti neo nazi at that time anti-fascism you could say. during this period of time is twenty years of law facing toward the enemy from the previous generation there's a new enemy kind of crept up behind us behind you guys behind these asians it's a new fascist regime with these hardcore technocrats now discipline is the circle coming around that does the audience your audience see it this way that there's a there's a connection politically what you're talking about twenty years ago and this this

techno technocratic regime if you will yeah i think you know what was interesting that we you know we started shortly after the burden was you know and i think i've seen so much like in eastern you know socialist germany you know in terms of like civilians the way technology was used to spy on people and i think this is so relevant now to many people because like the way technology is used abused by those in power is you know i did kind of goes into that direction you know. if you look at apple or facebook or you know those types of companies it's almost like they want to build their own zoo. which is integrated you know in the internet or what they call a walled garden ok so that's the last with digital rights management it's in their walled garden and the access to these places is becoming expensive yeah and to me that's the death of. that idea because it's you know we should be

able to connect with each other and exchange information you know and if that is not happening anymore you know what's the internet is becoming another form of television on. you know that's how it feels sometimes right cable t.v. where it's fake paper if you now you've donated your fee from sony using your song black flags to the anonymous defense fund yeah so talk a little bit about this is just part of a strategy of fighting back and how can these issues like yourself now fight back yeah you know to me it was like anonymous like there was so many activists who helped us you know spread the music and because we rode about you know basically the bradley manning case and we can lease we wrote the song called black flags and we had so much support so when this thing came up like i was able to place there be like sneak it in. like

a few months ago or. so when he was starting to promote so i was i go ok so for me personally it was a little bit like a revenge thing that i was able to put that exactly that track and. that ad and you know i thought ok this this money would be you know could be used very well you know in court too because i think everybody should have the right to defend themselves you know and to afford the right type of lawyer so i was like ok you know the moment it arrived on my account i was like ok i'm going to transfer it on so you know i was kind of getting a lot of angry phone calls. from friends from those guys but you know whenever we mention the redirecting the funds it of course redirecting funds is big with let's say to join a sizable wiki leaks in the. site of course the banks around the world shut him out the credit card companies that pay pal shut him out so just moving money around

becomes a political ax yes now going back even before the berlin wall is go back to the one nine hundred sixty s. . music at that time of course was instrumental in stopping. vietnam and it was really politicized because in the fifty's it was very lawrence welk and not very political at all and in the sixty's came around was highly politicized that it was fed right into that anti-war movement and so here we are in two thousand and twelve there is a digital war going on. sorry but teenage riot is really a digital hardcore you moralist and vented digital hardcore so is that is this is a war on i mean it's been called into the war is this really is your music ever been more relevant or more essential yeah you know i think this is really about the artists taking the power back you know and i think. yeah we're facing an

industry which is really hostile to us and the also the the freedom of speech thing you know like i mean we've seen it with when the iraq war started you know we way dixie chicks were bullied you know by radio stations like the record industry and i'm like you if you're not allowed anymore to write a song about you know how you feel about certain things like music is also becoming so boring to me and most exciting music was created for example in the time you mentioned you know end of the sixty's you know i think the music industry is still draws from that a lot you know i guess specially in the u.k. it's almost like to constantly looking back to that time right now so and that i think the same with punk rock you know and of the seventy's which reflected the crisis in society then i think who probably you know we would never have. many of the racists racism and stuff like that in america it was a play

a pop music you mentioned hip hop you were just a cello you performed and two packs a core whole a gram the whole a gram of two pack perform so this is a this is a new. chapter in the digital copyright phenomenon they've resurrected from the dead centrally hip hop artist who's performing. this is perpetual copyright two pac is is never apparently eternal but his his royalties will continue and because presumably they can create a new two pack music at some point you will how do you see this developing to me it's almost like. it's like a metaphor you know. the industry like he said walking zombies you know it's like either you have like puppets all of you have to do stuff like that of cause it's dead is the best nation for the technology maybe that people go oh this is even possible but then i'm going ok you know i have previously caught it or something

with the message or whatever to me i was in that blown away by that thing i have to say it was a. good deal and you know it was that musically exciting to to have somebody from the past like in your contract going forward would you have a clause in there that know a whole graphic alec empires to be performing after your deathbed. election campaign do you something yeah i know if we need that i guess i have to do that. all right well right of time alec empire of atari teenage riot thanks for being on the kaiser report yeah thank you so much all right and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser if you are with me max kaiser and stacy herbert all right thank my guests alec empire of atari teenage riot going to save an email please just kaiser reported r t t v are you guys are saying.

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