a lot some are going to washington d.c. and here is what's coming up tonight on the big picture with england and spain in double dip recessions and civil unrest to madrid to athens austerity might be coming to an end there's something else dying along with austerity and why will it leave the likes of paul ryan and ron paul in tears also every publicans become reliant on corporate executives to win elections and the republicans this prove this week of the party of bigots those questions and more in tonight's lone liberal rumble and from its beginning the occupy movement has preached nonviolence and its demonstrations and protests but now splitters cells of the movement are popping up

using violence to send their message is there a role for anarchists in the movement to rebuild the american economy. you need to know this the european economy is tanking and trickle down austerity is to blame new unemployment numbers show the seventeen nation euro zone now has its highest unemployment rate ever at ten point nine percent and the two nations with the highest unemployment rate spain and greece just happen to be the ones most booked on austerity in spain budget cuts and massive government layoffs driven up the unemployment rate to the eurozone high of twenty four percent and spanish spanish youth unemployment is even worse at a staggering fifty one percent and in greece the poster child for european austerity the unemployment rate stands at twenty almost twenty two percent with more than half of all greeks hundred twenty five years old unemployed another

austerity bitten nation the united kingdom just officially sank into another recession clearly austerity which involves taking. money out of working people's pockets forcing them to spend less and those contribute less revenue to the government is making the economic situation in europe far worse but the bankers and billionaires pushing austerity don't care as long as they can squeeze the last bit of wealth left in europe in their own pockets with nicolas sarkozy going down in france the dutch government collapsing civil unrest in the streets of madrid to london athens that austerity might be breathing its last gasp let's hope so but there's a bigger picture of what's going on here other than just the death of austerity and that's the whole libertarian oneworld notion of so-called free trade and free markets the idea is dying the biggest problem facing america right now is that our politicians in particular particularly our elite media don't yet realize that for

millennia starry eyed idealists have preached about the virtues of no more nation states just one world living in peace with free trade and open borders and no national nasty nationalism to get in the way of international unity sounded so nice when john lennon sang about it in imagine and so scary when it all fiddler proclaim that he would unite the entire world in one single right it would then go on to live in peace for a thousand years yes that really was his sales pitch and most of the german people actually believed at least early on. the romans used the same rationale as their empire spread across europe the middle east and northern africa two thousand years ago and the catholic church said that they could pull it off in the twelfth century and over the next few centuries conquered most of europe and much of the middle east when they fell the polian tried. try to that rationale actually nice french derived words of a world at peace under his control and then of course the british thought they

could pull it off of the used in the company the british navy as their main agents reaching from the americas to africa to australia new zealand and then of course the soviets and the americans both promised world peace if only everyone would get on the same page with them is still largely the american sales pitch although since vietnam is largely fallen flat when the berlin wall fell the western world's idealists all rushed in to revive the german catholic roman french british american idea of one world unified by open borders free markets and ultimately a single dominant currency the europeans jumped in with both feet creating the e.u. open borders and a shared currency the americans did the same particularly during the reagan and clinton administrations by doing away with over two hundred years of protections trade policies unilaterally eliminating tariffs and tearing down laws and regulations that protected labor and small businesses from the giant transnationals interestingly the asians mostly knew this was starry eyed crap the chinese moved

from a failed form of communism to government sponsored and heavily regulated capitalism to taiwan and south koreans and japanese all kept their tariffs and trade protections in place although they often disguise them as for example reverse vat taxes or through regulatory barriers and ironically so did the germans. they protected their manufacturing industry by keeping national ownership trade barriers and laws that required big companies to have half their board of directors come from the ranks of the labor unions that worked in their factories they protected their workers by aggressively stepping in with things like the kurds are program a short week is what it means in english policies that so when the great bush crash in two thousand and eight it workers weren't laid off even though the factory output plummeted for a year or so in the south and central americans and figured out the whole thing a decade ago i was in argentina in two thousand and two thousand and one when they told the i.m.f. to get the hell out of their country and the brazilians and chileans were fast

moving down that path at that time the list of countries in the southern hemisphere who long ago left behind the davos consensus is too long to reciting here then the cracks begin to show in both the united states and europe one of the central central tenants of libertarianism is that national boundaries are a necessary movement of both capital and labor should be absolutely unrestrained because eventually the so-called free market will equalize things and paradise will result. can work out that way that america has been ravaged by multinationals which has shut down tens of thousands of factories over sixty thousand just in the last ten years and move manufacturing offshore and when the reagan administration stopped and forcing penalties against employers who hired non-citizens entire industries like construction and meat packing that were once great places to get a good union job into the middle class became low wage bastions of largely spanish speaking labor the early result was obvious with the ross perot campaign later the pat buchanan tea baggers and tea partiers excuse me yelling about immigrants showed

the cracks in the libertarian ideology and now the occupy movement and the ninety nine percent spring everything else are coming together with labor to just say no those libertarian nonsense over the pot in europe a common currency has prevented nations from being able to control their own economic destiny leading to disasters in greece spain ireland and italy all countries that never bought that libertarian line and instead kept their own borders regulated in their currencies under their own control like iceland the scandinavian countries until the banks years ago screw themselves are moving ahead with an almost arrogantly cheerful prosperity. and this week we saw in france arguably the biggest domino to fall france as one of the three largest economies in europe and led the charge for the e.u. in the euro the circus the government rose to power in the libertarian notion of free trade and free immigration as it worked out so well and now that people are having their say as weekend they told sarkozy to take a hike the result in

a desperate bid to beat his only remaining rival the socialist francois hollande probably mangling the brown situation forgive me sir cozy is now talking about limiting immigration and changing french trade policies the french people know who he is he's a reagan bush that you're really libertarian and they now know that the policies of austerity and so-called free markets that he's been pushing for years are not only failed it's stupid even if he wins this sunday's election which is unlikely he'll never again be able to push that sort of story libertarian absalom on the french people who dream of one world whether it's run by hitler the polian king george the pope the ottomans the soviets or the american based transnational corporations libertarian paradise is dead and appropriately so now it's time for us to get busy with the work of undoing thirty years of insanity and reclaiming the wealth stolen by the one percent restoring our national independence and economy and building

a nation in a world that works because we allow for our differences and we again respect national sovereignty. it's wednesday you ready to rumble joining me for tonight's lone liberal rumble or adam bitly editor in chief of net right daily and marc harrold conservative commentator attorney and author of observations are white lies and as a test for the first amendment thanks both you for showing up and i thank you i mean on they thanks for joining us you just heard my rant about libertarianism is dead you know austerity socks etc. let me just sort of dario. let's just be honest for a second here the libertarians i saw your gravestone appear in one thousand eight hundred twelve well i was funny you know reagan forward obviously libertarian reagan was a libertarian i think that his policies the idea that you know that government is not the solution to our problems government is the problem from his first inaugural

address that is the core that's the kernel of libertarianism yes and i think that we are going to make grow underneath ronald reagan oh i'm not saying that he was an effective libertarian but he was promoting those policies rhetoric is one thing and what we see is another and what we do know is that option for seeing laws against hiring people who are not citizens reagan stopped and foreseen was the sherman antitrust act after over one hundred years. i should in an era of mergers and acquisitions that created giant monopolistic corporations that are eating us alive but get that it's all a libertarian philosophy government and corporations were really in bed in this period of time and what we're talking about is libertarianism is a terrible description libertarianism is strictly the reduction in the size and scope of government and the life of people not oh they they forgave. the immigration the amnesty that he that he did the aids. that's not libertarianism it to the size it's going from where they were it was near nineteen percent of g.d.p.

and it's been as high as twenty three percent over the last one hundred years i mean it's actually we're spending less now as a percentage of g.d.p. that we were sixty years ago we're collecting less in taxes to government has gotten smaller but you know it hasn't seemed to improve anybody's life michel your thoughts are well yeah you know first of all i think you're right that was a rant and i agree you know you took a lot of stuff and you put it all together and you mischaracterize what libertarianism leads to me i consider myself a constitutionalist and a libertarian that means i'm not for small government at all costs but i'm looking for government that's authorized and limited by the constitution which makes sense because the constitutionalist and a libertarian you can't you as a living how do you explain the job general welfare clause the general welfare clause because libertarians say there is that the purpose of government should not be the general welfare of the people the purpose of the editorial ism is is antithetical to the constitution libertarianism is not in effect of the constitution libertarian with the bill of rights and the difference in the constitution do is they bring something forward and they limit the government they

limit what the government can do there are things that are all government should do and you don't want to of the constitution describe seven things that the government was created to do one of them is to protect the general welfare george washington was the first president to authorize legislation taxing and paying for raising taxes and paying for the poor here in washington but you're a little you know if you're in medical let me i've always been larger than the idea that corporations in and oligarchies somehow started with reagan's ridiculous we went from being an agrarian society to an industrial town and then sort of we had no roads after absolutely and absolutely and you i know personally don't like the case the santa clara case which gives personhood to the corporation it didn't you disagree with that and i agree with you it's not as clear cut as you'll read about the case actually didn't do it on the head no it's not the case ok but that's been the practical effect from the precedent that's been the progeny of the tanda down it has assigned tragically you say has assigned the personhood to the corporations but i agree i think you mischaracterize what libertarianism is we'll have to come back more on the right after the break.

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automatically denied sloan liberal rival joining me tonight are adam bitly editor in chief of net right daily and marc harrold conservative commentator attorney and author of observations of white noise an acid test for the first amendment let's get back to it looks like there's going to be a retrial of citizens united the high court is here in this case out of montana where the montana supreme court said you know there's a law in place in montana this is corporations can't mess with our politics and corporations are messing with politics saying this is the supreme court says we can do it and they basically the montana supreme court kind of struck down the u.s.

supreme court which isn't how it's supposed to work and so the u.s. supreme court put a stay on that now the corporations are paying off politicians like crazy in montana which has got the montanans all upset and we're going to see if the supreme court is going to decide this but it isn't this just nuts this idea that corporations should be able to to by politicians. this is funny you know it's not true first that corporations are out there just purchasing politicians as if this is something that started they tell you it was an accident if you don't tell you an actual true story from i is member of congress is not now was a member of congress until two thousand and ten election and about six months before before he was before that election actually is a war that a lobbyist came into his office and i got a half million dollars i can spend in your district i can use it to destroy you or to get you reelected which would you prefer now is that how democracy should wear what year was this was two thousand and ten ok do you think that kind of stuff happened before two thousand. that was pretty citizens united yeah i know that was

just so rich isn't to point to two thousand and ten at the point of citizens united two and say oh no on this is that i did not tell my senate i'm sorry but the entire thing i mean i think not only should be struck down but mccain feingold should be brought back which would have said to that corporate lobbyist you can spend two thousand dollars you can spend half a million. setting the setting the price at two thousand dollars so i'm doing a fine here it's a job yeah well it's a very unpopular case i think it's somewhat mischaracterized but in my view citizens united is about more speech is about more speech being out there i think that the idea that the americans need to be somehow sheltered from critical thinking is wrong and i understand there's some things that i understand there can be abuses but there can always be abuses with speech and when you have that you need more speech not less i mean what you're talking about is restricting speech i believe that it's it's a rightly decided case to mischaracterize what in the press and there in the present state of the union he really called out the court i thought that was right is astounding is that it is that traditionally it was conservatives like like ever dirksen and barry goldwater who were opposed i mean openly aggressively opposed to

corporations messing in politics this this flip didn't come about until the one nine hundred seventy s. when lewis powell was put on the court. i just don't get why you you know how do you read everyone always points to the problems of politics there's too much money they say oh if we have mccain for what would be acceptable on a dollar as dollar donation of it how taking the money out of politics i've been having a problem with if i'm going to lections how about you know are there still plenty of that now at that point you're asking congress to come up with the same that the media live on how much money they give themselves to one for off if you want to if you want to have a broadcast license you have to give time to these political candidates i don't think that should be forced on anyone but to ask congress to suggest congress should come in and regulate how much how many of us we have people i think we the people should be should be have an assembly corporations the problem but you truly believe congress is we the people they really represent us well i've never voted for a corporation what i have voted for going to people should be paying for this and

we the people should make the decision where they want to send your money. we're redefining we the people it's a very it's a very lucrative right now by the way to be a fortune one hundred c.e.o. we just discovered the you know the executive compensation for twenty eleven and c.e.o. pay the fortune one hundred first of all a quarter of twenty five out of the hundred paid less in taxes excuse me the corporations paid their c.e.o.'s more than they paid in taxes which is pretty bizarre because the corporation exists on an infrastructure of our roads educated work force you know clean air transportation systems all of which are paid for with tax dollars and they pay no taxes this this makes my head explode and on top of that c.e.o. pay is up twenty eight percent one year worker pay is up three percent not even enough to keep up with inflation if you're looking to gasoline prices so the oligarchy getting richer everybody else is getting screwed does this mean we need more days like we had yesterday with people in the streets i don't know what

yesterday actually even accomplished you know you had people like it i'll ask you what happened you know i don't doubt that americans are really fed up with the fat cats running the show it might be. well i disagree a little but i think yesterday accomplished a lot i think any time citizens want to go out there and exercise their first amendment right that in itself accomplishes a lot whether i watch and agree or watch it and disagree i had actually not seen this story until we start talking about a little bit i had no idea really about the difference in tax and compensation but i think that again these corporations through the board of directors whoever it is have to self check they have to decide is that too much money for the cea c.e.o. they've decided that that person their board of directors their shareholders proxy votes have decided that person's going to get that much money is that what we need to do there we know what is in a world and this very much was not the case before the reagan presidency in for the entire history of america that we live in a world we're a c.e.o. makes more than a doctor. do you really think that a heart surgeons work is less valuable than mitt romney some c.e.o.'s not every

c.e.o. that anyone under the democrat of some brain surgeon has said that mitt romney is that much smarter than a brain surgeon that he should make two hundred fifty million dollars in the brain surgeons make and maybe a million bucks a year what we're talking about here is two completely separate categories you have a category where you example people around you when you differently and the fact is there's a larger market since war markets for these different people there is probably many more doctors than there are fortune one hundred c.e.o.'s think there's only one hundred fortune one hundred c.e.o.'s that's a smaller market but shouldn't the should prices more well so you so you're saying the things we developers that they did a doctor that command that very high that that there is it's such a hard such a rare job the only way i can construe that that there's such a rarity to the type of person who could be a fortune one hundred c.e.o. is that they would have to be a combination or virtue generally recognition so shortage of college graduates no shortage and b. a graduate shortage of competent business people so must be that plus something

that makes them rare and the only thing i could think of is that sociopaths are only about five percent of our population and people who can literally sleep at night knowing that they've destroyed the lives of their fellow human beings and so if you take the somebody who has destroyed some carly fiorina sending to no ten twenty thousand jobs created what are you job creators gimme gimme a break the minority one hundred corporations have been shedding jobs over the last decade but not creating jobs the united states didn't create jobs overseas so these people go to bed every night sleeping just fine knowing that they've ruined the lives you know but i think overnight it's. you're not addressing my issue well i'm asking i'm grammes you're upset i'm saying i only wives because jobs are going to give me any rationale other than that they're rare and any possibility for why they wear them things are going outside of their own all sociopaths come on but the idea here is listen what we're doing we're not well ok some of them maybe they are but well the american banker magazine actually your forbes had that article it's ok that one of the one we're talking about here we're talking about and that means

that we're talking about problem that we're talking about the top hundred companies in the people that leave them there's a reason they're the top hundred companies because these people sometimes lead them right on there we're going to destroy people's lives for profit and no they might i don't i don't want to outsource everything you want to country i mean how many generalizations can we throw around here but i think i have every right to court for ok i have time for a last question quick fire professional treasure hunter bill warren claims he has found the body of osama bin laden and is in the process of securing funds for a mission to recover said body putting the a certainty of his claim aside for a second frankly i assume bin laden's been eaten by the fishes but whatever if he could successfully recover bin laden's body or what's next for a body goes up for auction on e bay be warned donates it to the famed madame tussaud wax museum or see it's frozen to satisfy all the conspiracy nuts i think or you know some variation of

your own and it might seem to sometimes have had a lot of this stuff the. next little dinosaur. i like but you know stuffing it for the conspiracy theories i don't know that there's really a way to put that in the you know how strange a question that is aside but you know i'll go with c. if i've got to pick one of them there if not i think you put it anywhere but i think it's beneath my fish to i think that romney's going to buy a ticket i'm really execute it and say see i told you i want to you know done a lot. better than ark adams thank you both thank you for having a conversation. it's the good the bad and the very very low to kulas slowly ugly the good

aphrodite locate the ok this is the director of the reinventing greece media project an organization that tries to engage greek american college students to come up with solutions to help the nation of greece rebuild itself she told the s.c. times many people want to read positive news and when they read about times of crisis or institutions that don't work they ask what can we do what can i do about these. hopes that the project will offer answers to these questions and unite the entire greek community so that the country can recover from its economic collapse there's no doubt that greece is in turmoil it's these kinds of grassroots efforts that are going to be needed to promote change and rebuild the nation. the bad wells fargo c.f.o. tim sloan this is truly mind boggling last week and i cast this will see california homeowner who has cerebral palsy went to sloan's house and waited on his porch so

she could personally give him a payment on her for closed house and fell behind on our mortgage payments due to hospital stays and while she can now afford to make the payments wells fargo won't modify her loan and won't stop the foreclosure procedures wilson thought going to sloan in person would help but instead sloan had her arrested mr sloan's actions are a great example of the lack of empathy big banks have for the customers whose lives they have ruined and add to my theory that c.e.o.'s and seniors. isn't that companies are more often sociopaths than the and the very very ugly pastor sean harris so called pastor during a sermon in fayetteville north carolina on sunday so called pat how could anybody who says this goes up be a pastor pastor here as talked about his support for the state's amendment one which would legally define marriage as between one man and one woman and without was civil unions and domestic partnerships in his sermon harris also suggest that

parents should attack their children physically attack their children if they're displaying behaviors outside of typical typical gender norms take a listen. dads the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist you walk over there and crack that wrist. man oh. give me a good punch. is an intolerance aside so called pastor harris is encouraging him condoning violence against children it's not just very very ugly it's mind boggling and very very old. after the break since the occupy movement began last year there's been a struggle within the peaceful movement to keep those who use violent tactics out of the fold so where exactly do anarchists fit in the movement to remake our economy.

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