tv [untitled] May 2, 2012 11:01pm-11:31pm EDT
11:01 pm
a lot some are going to washington d.c. and here is what's coming up tonight on the big picture with england and spain in double dip recessions and civil unrest to madrid to athens austerity might be coming to an end it is something else diana along with austerity and why will it leave the likes of paul ryan and ron paul in tears also every publicans become reliant on corporate executives to win elections and did republicans as prove this week of the party of bigots those questions and more in tonight's lone liberal
11:02 pm
rumble and from its beginning the occupy movement has preached nonviolence and its demonstrations and protests but now splitters cells of the movement are popping up using violence to send their message is there a role for anarchists in the movement to rebuild the american economy. you need to know this the european economy is tanking and trickle down austerity is to blame new unemployment numbers show the seventeen nation euro zone now has its highest unemployment rate ever at ten point nine percent and the two nations with the highest unemployment rate spain and greece just happen to be the ones most booked on austerity in spain budget cuts and massive government layoffs driven up the unemployment rate to the eurozone high of twenty four percent and spanish spanish youth unemployment is even worse at a staggering fifty one. percent and in greece the poster child for european
11:03 pm
austerity the unemployment rate stands at twenty almost twenty two percent with more than half of all greeks hundred twenty five years old unemployed another austerity bitten nation the united kingdom just officially sank into another recession clearly austerity which involves taking money out of working people's pockets forcing them to spend less and those contribute less revenue to the government is making the economic situation in europe far worse but the bankers and billionaires pushing austerity don't care as long as they can squeeze the last bit of wealth left in europe in their own pockets with nicolas sarkozy going down in france the dutch government collapsing civil unrest in the streets of madrid to london athens that austerity might be breathing its last gasp let's hope so but there's a bigger picture of what's going on here other than just the death of austerity. and that's the whole libertarian oneworld notion of so-called free trade and free markets the idea is dying the biggest problem facing america right now is that our
11:04 pm
politicians in particular and particularly our elite media don't yet realize it for millennia starry eyed idealists preached about the virtues of no more nation states just one world living in peace with free trade and open borders and no gnashing nasty nationalism to get in the way of international unity sounded so nice when john lennon sang about it in imagine and so scary when it all if it were proclaimed that he would unite the entire world in one single reich that would then go on to live in peace for a thousand years yes that really was his sales pitch and most of the german people actually believed at least early on the romans used the same rationale as their empire spread across europe the middle east and northern africa two thousand years ago and the catholic church said that they could pull it off in the twelfth century and over the next few centuries conquered most of europe and much of the middle
11:05 pm
east when they fell the polian tried. tried on that rationale actually nice french derived work of a world of peace under his control and then of course the british thought they could pull it off of the used in the company the british navy as their main agents reaching from the americas to africa to australia new zealand and then of course the soviets and the americans both promised world peace if only everyone would get on the same page with them is still largely the american sales pitch although since vietnam it's largely fallen flat but when the berlin wall fell the western world's idealists all rushed in to revive the german catholic roman french british american idea of one world unified by open borders free markets and ultimately a single dominant currency the europeans jumped in with both feet creating the e.u. open borders and current shared. the americans did the same particularly during the reagan and clinton administrations by doing away with over two hundred years of protections trade policies unilaterally eliminating tariffs and tearing down laws
11:06 pm
and regulations that protected labor and small businesses from the giant transnationals interestingly the asians mostly knew this was starry eyed crap the chinese moved from a failed form of communism to government sponsored and heavily regulated capitalism the taiwanese south koreans and japanese all kept their tariffs and trade protections in place although they often disguised them as for example reverse vat taxes or through regulatory barriers and ironically sort of the germans they protected their manufacturing industry by keeping national ownership trade barriers and laws that required big companies to have half their board of directors come from the ranks of the labor unions that worked in their factories they protected their workers by aggressively stepping in with things like the kurds are program short week is what it means in english policies that so when the great bush crash in two thousand and eight he hit workers weren't laid off even though the factory output plummeted for
11:07 pm
a year or so the south and central americans and figured out the whole thing a decade ago i was in argentina in two thousand and two thousand and one when they told the i.m.f. to get the hell out of their country and the brazilians and chalange were fast moving down that path of that time the list of countries in the southern hemisphere who long ago left behind the davos consensus is too long to recites here then the cracks begin to show in both the united states and europe one of the central central tenants of libertarianism is that national boundaries are a necessary movement of both capital and labor should be absolutely unrestrained because eventually the so-called free market will equalize things and paradise will result. didn't work out that way that america has been ravaged by multinationals which have shut down tens of thousands of factories over sixty thousand just in the last ten years and move manufacturing offshore and when the reagan administration stopped and forcing penalties against employers who hired non-citizens entire industries like construction and meatpacking that were once great places to get a good union job into the middle class became low wage bastions of largely spanish
11:08 pm
speaking labor the early result was obvious with the ross perot campaign later the pat buchanan tea baggers and tea partiers excuse me yelling about immigrants showed the cracks in the libertarian ideology and now the occupy movement and the ninety nine percent spring everything else are coming together with labor to just say no libertarian nonsense over the pot in europe a common currency has prevented nations from being able to control their own economic destiny leading to disasters in greece spain ireland and italy all countries that never bought that libertarian line and instead kept their own borders regulated in their currencies under their own control like iceland the scandinavian countries until the banks years ago screw themselves are moving ahead with an almost arrogantly cheerful prosperity. and this week we saw in france arguably the biggest domino to fall france as one of the three largest economies in europe and led the charge for the e.u.
11:09 pm
in the euro sarkozy government rose to power on the libertarian notion of free trade and free immigration as it worked out so well and now that people are having their say as weekend they told sarkozy to take a hike to result in a desperate bid to beat his only remaining rival the socialist francois hollande probably mangling the brown situation forgive me sir cozy is now talking about limiting immigration and changing french trade policies the french people know who he is he's a reagan bush that you're really libertarian and they now know that the policies of austerity and so-called free markets that he's been pushing for years are not only failed it's stupid even if he wins this sunday's election which is unlikely he'll never again be able to push that sort of story libertarian absalom on the french people who dream of one world whether it's run by hitler the polian king george the pope the ottomans the soviets or the american based transnational corporations is libertarian paradise is dead and appropriately so now it's time for us to get busy
11:10 pm
with the work of undoing thirty years of insanity and reclaiming the wealth stolen by the one percent restoring our national independence and economy and building a nation in a world that works because we allow for our differences and we again respect national sovereignty. it's wednesday you ready to rumble joining me for tonight's lone liberal rumble are adam bitly editor in chief of net right daily and marc harrold conservative commentator attorney and author of observations are white lies an acid test for the first amendment thanks both for showing up and i thank you i mean they thanks for joining us you just heard my rant about libertarianism is dead you know austerity socks etc. let me just sort of dario. let's just be honest for a second here the libertarians i saw your gravestone here one thousand eight hundred twelve well i was from you know reagan forward obviously libertarian reagan
11:11 pm
was a very good libertarian i think that his policies the idea that you know that government is not the solution to our problems government is the problem from his first inaugural address that is the core that's the kernel of libertarianism yes and i think that we are going to make grow underneath ronald reagan oh i'm not saying that he was an affective libertarian but he was promoting those policies rhetoric is one thing and what we see is another and what we do know is that option for seeing laws against hiring people who are not citizens reagan stopped and foreseen was the sherman antitrust act after over one hundred years. i should in an era of mergers and acquisitions that created giant monopolistic corporations that are eating us alive we've got that all libertarian philosophy government and corporations were really in bed in this period of time and what we're talking about is libertarianism is a terrible description libertarianism is strictly the reduction in the size and scope of government in the life of people not oh they they forgave. the immigration
11:12 pm
or the amnesty that he that he did the eighty's. that's not libertarianism it to the size it's going to be right now it is nineteen percent of g.d.p. and it's been as high as twenty three percent over the last one hundred years i mean it's actually we're spending less now as a percentage of g.d.p. that we were sixty years ago we're collecting less in taxes to government has gotten smaller but you know if it hasn't seemed to improve anybody's life michel your thoughts are well you know first of all i think you're right that was a rant and i agree you know you took a lot of stuff and you put it all together and you mischaracterize what libertarian is it least to me i consider myself be a constitutionalist and a libertarian that means i'm not for small government at all costs but i'm looking for government that's authorized and limited by the constitution which makes sense because the constitutionalist and a libertarian you can't you as a latina how do you explain the. general welfare clause the general welfare clause because libertarians say there is that the purpose of government should not be the general welfare of the people the part is an illusionary ism is is antithetical to
11:13 pm
the constitution libertarianism is not in effect of what the constitution libertarian what the bill of rights and the different things in the constitution do is they bring something forward and they limit the government they limit what the government can do there are things that are all government should do and we have only one of the constitution describes seven things that the government was created to do one of them is to protect the general welfare george washington was the first president just to authorize legislation taxing and paying for raising taxes and paying for the poor here in washington but you wouldn't you know if you're in medical literature you know you've always been larger than the idea that corporations in and oligarchies somehow started with reagan's ridiculous we went from being an agrarian society to an industrial and that sort of we have no roads after absolutely and absolutely and you i know personally don't like the case the santa clara case which gives personhood to the corporation it didn't you disagree with that and i agree with you it's not as clear cut as you'll read about the case actually didn't do it it's on the head no it's not the case ok but that's been the practical effect from the precedent that's been the progeny of the tanda down it
11:14 pm
has assigned tragically you say has assigned the personhood to the corporations but i agree i think you mischaracterize what libertarianism is we'll have to come back more on the right after the break. well for the. science technology innovation all the latest developments from around russia we've got the future covered. they've escaped the society to koori the room. to grow spinach. make to fool. the mnemonics. civilization notice their absence.
11:15 pm
11:16 pm
a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kinds a report on our. automatically that i'd flown liberal rubble joining me tonight are adam bitly editor in chief of net right daily and marc harrold conservative commentator attorney and author of observations of white noise an acid test for the first amendment let's get back to it looks like there's going to be a retrial of citizens united the high court is here in this case out of montana where the montana supreme court said you know there's a law in place in montana this is corporations can't mess with our politics and corporations are messing with politics saying this is the supreme court says we can do it and they basically the montana supreme court kind of struck down the u.s. supreme court which isn't how it's supposed to work and so the u.s. supreme court put a stay on that now the corporations are paying off politicians like crazy in montana which has got the montanas all upset and we're going to see if the supreme court is going to decide this but isn't this just nuts this idea that corporations
11:17 pm
should be able to to buy politicians this is you know it's not true first that corporations are out there just purchasing politicians as if this is something that started they tell you it was an accident if you don't tell you an actual true story from my is member of congress is not now was a member of congress until two thousand and ten election and about six months before before he was before that election or actually is a war that a lobbyist came into his office and i got a half million dollars i can spend in your district i can use it to destroy you or to get you reelected which would you prefer now is that how a democracy should what year was and this was two thousand and ten. do you think that kind of stuff happened before two thousand. that was pretty citizens united yeah i know i was just so reticent to point to two thousand and ten and to point to citizens united to and say oh now is the reason i'm not home a sentence that i'm sorry but the entire thing i mean i think not only should soon be struck down but mccain feingold should be brought back which would have said to
11:18 pm
that corporate lobbyist you can spend two thousand dollars you can spend half a million. setting the setting the price at two thousand dollars doing a ten year it's. yeah well it's a very unpopular case i think it's somewhat mischaracterized but in my view citizens united is about more speech is about more speech being out there i think that the idea that the americans need to be somehow sheltered from critical thinking is wrong and i understand there's some things that i understand there can be abuses but there can always be abuses with speech and when you have that you need more speech not less what you're talking about is restricting speech i believe that it's it's a rightly decided case to mischaracterize when the press and during the president's state of the union he really called out the court i thought that was right is astounding is that it is that traditionally it was conservatives like like everett dirksen and barry goldwater who were opposed i mean openly aggressively opposed to corporations messing in politics this this flip didn't come about until the one nine hundred seventy s. when lewis powell was put on the court. i just don't get why you you know how do
11:19 pm
you read everyone always points to the problems of politics there's too much money they say oh but if we have mccain for what would be acceptable on a dollar dollar donation of a how to taking the money out of politics about having a publicly funded elections how about you know are there still plenty of that now at that point you're asking congress to come up with the same the media lou on how much money they give themselves to one prof if you want to if you want to have a broadcast license you have to give time to these political candidates i don't think that should be forced on anyone but to ask congress to suggest congress should come in and regulate how much how many of us we have people i think we the people should be should be have an assembly corporations the problem but you truly believe congress is we the people they really represent us well i've never voted for a corporation what i have voted for kind of people should be paying for this and we the people should make the decision where they want to send her money. we're redefining we the people it's a very it's a very lucrative right now by the way to be a fortune one hundred c.e.o. we just discovered the you know the executive compensation for twenty eleven and
11:20 pm
c.e.o. pay the fortune one hundred first of all a quarter of twenty five out of one hundred paid less in taxes excuse me the corporations paid their c.e.o.'s more than they paid in taxes which is pretty bizarre because the corporation exists on an infrastructure of our roads educated work force you know clean air transportation systems all of which are paid for with tax dollars and they paid no taxes this this makes my head explode and on top of that c.e.o. pay is up twenty eight percent one year worker pay is up three percent not even enough to keep up with inflation if you're looking to gasoline prices so the oligarchy getting richer everybody else is getting screwed does this mean we need more days like we had yesterday with people in the streets i don't know what yesterday actually even accomplished you know you had people like it i'll ask you what happened you know i don't doubt that americans are really fed up with the fat cats running the show it might be. well i disagree a little but i think yesterday accomplished
11:21 pm
a lot i think any time citizens want to go out there and exercise their first amendment rights that in itself accomplishes a lot whether i watch and agree or watch it and disagree i had actually not seen this story until we start talking about a little bit i had no idea really about the difference in tax and compensation but i think that again these corporations through the board of directors whoever it is have to self check they have to decide is that too much money for the cea c.e.o. they've decided that that person their board of directors their shareholders proxy votes of decided that person's going to get that much money is that we need to go there we know what is in a world and this very much was not the case before the reagan presidency in for the entire history of america that we live in a world where a c.e.o. makes more than a doctor. do you really think that a heart surgeons work is less valuable than mitt romney's some c.e.o.'s not every c.e.o. that even under the democrat of some brain surgeon has say that mitt romney is that much smarter than a brain surgeon that he should make two hundred fifty million dollars in the brain surgeons make it maybe a million bucks a year what we're talking about here is two completely separate categories you have a category you example you've already won you differently and the fact is there's
11:22 pm
a larger market since war markets for these different people there is probably many more doctors than there are fortune one hundred c.e.o.'s i think there's only one hundred fortune one hundred c.e.o.'s that's a smaller market that shouldn't should prices more well so you see you're saying with these beautiful tears that they do doctor that command that very high that that there is it's such a hard such a rare job the only way i can construe that that there's such a rarity to the type of person could be a fortune one hundred c.e.o. is that they would have to be a combination or a reverse genuinely rare combination so shortage of college graduates no shortage and be a graduate shortage of competent business people so must be that plus something that makes them rare and the only thing i can think of is that sociopaths are only about five percent of our population and people who can literally sleep at night knowing that they've destroyed the lives of their fellow. human beings and so if you take the somebody who is destroyed simply carly fiorina sending to no ten
11:23 pm
twenty thousand jobs created what are you job creators gimme gimme a break remember only one hundred corporations have been shedding jobs over the last decade but not creating jobs the united states didn't create jobs overseas so these people go to bed every night sleeping just fine knowing that they ruined the lives you know but i think over and it's. like you're not addressing my issue well i'm asking i'm ground zero percent i'm saying i only wives because jobs are going to give me any rationale other than that they're rare and any possibility for why they wear them things are going outside of their own all sociopaths come on but the idea here is listen what we're doing we're not well ok some of them maybe they are but well the american banker magazine actually your forum said that article is ok but once we were talking about they were talking about if you were talking about problem that we're talking about the top one hundred companies in the people that leave them there's a reason they're the top hundred companies because these people sometimes lead them right and they are willing to destroy people's lives for profit and no they might i don't i don't want to outsource everything you want to a country i mean how many generalizations can we throw around here but i think i
11:24 pm
have every right to court for ok. last question quickfire professional treasure hunter bill warren claims he has found the body of osama bin laden and is in the process of securing funds for a mission to recover said body putting the certainty of his claim aside for a second frankly i assume bin laden's been eaten by the fishes but. whatever if he could successfully recover bin laden's body what's next for a body goes up for auction on e bay be warren donates it to the famed madame tussaud wax museum or see its frozen to satisfy all the conspiracy nuts are doing or you know some variation of your own and you might see it in smithsonian sometimes have a little this is supposed to be stuff the. next little dinosaur. like but you know stuffing it for the conspiracy theories. don't know that there's really a way to put that in the you know how strange
11:25 pm
a question that is aside but you know i'll go with c. if i've got to pick one of them there if not i think you put it anywhere but i think it's beneath my fish to i think that romney's going to buy a ticket on react secured it and say see i told you i want to show done a lot. better than ark adams thank you thank you for having me on our conversation . it's the good the bad and the very very low tech kulas slowly ugly the good. aphrodite locate the ok this is the director of the reinventing greece media project an organization that tries to engage greek american college students to come up with solutions to help the nation of greece rebuild itself she told the
11:26 pm
s.c. times many people want to read positive news and when they read about times of crisis or institutions that don't work they ask what can we do what can i do about these. hopes that the project will offer answers to these questions and unite the entire greek community so that the country can recover from its economic collapse there's no doubt that greece is in turmoil it's these kinds of grassroots efforts that are going to be needed promote change rebuild the nation. the bad wells fargo c.f.o. tim sloan this is truly mind boggling last week and i cast this will see california homeowner who has cerebral palsy went to sloan's house and waited on his porch so she could personally give him a payment on her for a closed house while some fell behind on our mortgage payments due to hospital stays and while she can now afford to make the payments wells fargo won't modify her loan and won't stop the foreclosure procedures wilson thought going to sloan in
11:27 pm
person would help but instead sloan had arrested mr sloan's actions are a great example of the lack of empathy big banks have for the customers whose lives they have ruined and add to my theory that c.e.o.'s and seniors. isn't big companies are more often sociopaths than the and the very very ugly pastor sean harris so called here during a sermon in fayetteville north carolina on sunday so called pat how could anybody who says this goes up be a pastor pastor here as talked about his support for the state's amendment one which would legally define marriage as between one man and one woman and without was civil unions and domestic partnerships in his sermon harris also suggest that parents should have its act their children physically attack their children if they're displaying behaviors outside of typical typical gender norms take a listen. to ads the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist you
11:28 pm
walk over there and crack that wrist. man up. give me a good punch. is a good and intolerance aside so call pastor harris is encouraging condoning violence against children it's not just very very ugly it's mind boggling and very very. after the break since the occupy movement began last year there's been a struggle within the peaceful movement to keep those who use violent tactics out of the fold so where exactly do an artist's fit in the movement to remake our economy.
11:29 pm
11:30 pm
have least eleven protesters killed by unknown attackers during a march in cairo at a rally against a ban on some presidential hopefuls this just three weeks before in egypt votes for a new president to replace hosni mubarak was deposed more than a year ago. the taliban says it carried out a suicide bombing in kabul that killed seven in retaliation for barack obama's surprise visit to commit u.s. support to afghanistan for at least another decade speaking after signing the deal obama stressed the importance of peace talks with the taliban. reaches for its red card his country's move to boycott football's prestigious euro two thousand and twelve in ukraine over the headline up at the jail former prime minister yulia timoshenko pictures emerged this week allegedly showing injuries sustained by timoshenko when she says guards attacked her at a prison where she's serving a seven year sentence for abuse of power. now back to washington for the big picture stay with us.
34 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on