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today on our t.v. once again good prevails over evil our wonderful boys in blue save the day by stopping a terror plot in its tracks but wait a minute if you're knights in shining armor don't have such a sterling reputation after all we'll tell you why. if you can't beat them really educate them a league the government document shows a plan to bring the concept of reeducation camps right here to u.s. soil so it's an attempt by the government to brainwash and amuse into submission. plus the website mega upload is proving to be a make a pain in the you know what officials are now trying to extradite founder kim dotcom to the u.s. to face the american justice system we'll bring you the latest in this cyber scandal.
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it's thursday may third four pm in washington d.c. i'm adding martin you're watching our t.v. starting up this hour the f.b.i. is calling it a victory against homegrown terrorism five self described anarchists were arrested after allegedly blowing up plotting to blow up a bridge near cleveland the bombing was supposed to take place on occupy wall street's huge day of action but the good guys rush to the rescue stop the men in their tracks and save civilians from danger right as it turns out the government agency was instrumental in helping the cleveland flight plan this terrorist bridge plot the entire event was provoked and orchestrated by agent provocateurs who supplied the motive and the means to carry out the plot. well now f.b.i. entrapment is nothing new in terrorism cases currently the f.b.i. has fifteen thousand undercover operatives in their ranks who get paid as much as one hundred thousand dollars per simon and at least half of the latest five hundred
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prosecutions related to terrorism have involved f.b.i. entrapment but the question remains when the f.b.i. files its own terror plots is this preventing terrorism or is this just creating security theater joining me now to dig through some of the seedy details in this case is steven webster senior editor for raw story the f.b.i. entrapment cases nothing new this is happened time and time again we've seen even it's backfired in a couple cases at a mosque where mosque senior officials actually reported in the agent provocateur to the police because he was very overzealous in his motives. so right now senior editor for all story ok. and it is an interesting case because so many cases across the country some could argue that nationwide we're spending an exponential amount of taxpayer dollars on weeding out these potential terrorists when really is there really a threat after all. it's
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a very interesting case and we'll get back to that later for a place dubbed the largest spy center in the world menwith hill and britain certainly carries an unassuming name but for almost three decades now the complex run jointly by the u.k. and the u.s. has been targeted and even site seized by protesters in the latest demonstration just a couple days ago activists against again demanded that american forces leave the crying what they see as an insatiable in a logical hunger for security artie's laura smith reports. it's a little piece of america in the middle of the yorkshire dales it might look like some kind of theme park but it's actually a spa is based and part of the early warning system for the ever expanding u.s. missile defense shield the supposed to this huge kind of. gripping the world on that surface is you get from places like midway through which is connected to these the american military this being a base in menwith hill since the nineteen sixty's growing all the time until the
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site now comprises thirty three of those goals will like structures in sites each one a satellite dish which collects information from u.s. satellites but also into sets the communications of all the countries that information is then fed back to the u.s. and used in what they call intelligence lead wolf which includes special operations and drone attacks. to keep up with new forms of warfare billions of dollars have been invested in man with hill over the last ten years it's enabled the base to remain a vital component to the global you. surveillance network menwith watch a dock to steve schofield reckons the inner workings of around a hundred countries are closely monitored hair something he dubs an unprecedented level of intervention the u.k.'s providing a facility here it's involved in drone attacks that we know from independent assessment killing and injuring tsawwassen civilians these are acts of war and
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normally when we have acts of war you know parliament showed normally informed people that were involved in those who were not being informed were kept entirely in the dark about this isn't news to locals they've been coming up here to protest weekly for decades but now their cause has drawn the attention of a low ball movement occupy helen alexander is from occupy leeds and sees a common cause in men with hell to consider its implications on our on our individual civil liberties the fact that they can listen to all of phone calls they can intercept our emails you know this whistleblower evidence is testimonials that will back up the claims that what goes on there is not only political espionage but commercial espionage it's a far cry from the land of the free rhetoric the u.s. is famous for and critics see menwith hill as a symbol of that hypocrisy and of europe kowtow into u.s.
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power but we're seeing is americans developing a new form of imperialism this isn't about protection of democracy if you look at the pattern of bases basing investments i mean done by the united states over the past twenty years it's all about ensuring that they have access to oil and other vital not a number nubile resources in africa in the persian gulf and we've got to challenge that we really have to start challenging the first two there because the next stage is probably the attack on iran. with the us is expansion plans for the ballistic missile defense shield up to twenty twenty five and with menwith hill already part of the early warnings to. this poking of america's nose into other people's backyards is still king fears it could be the trigger to a new arms race numerous myth men with him. may day was a day that brought hundreds of thousands worldwide on the streets to stand for economic justice but out of all the retelling of maydays historical roots one
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disturbing event has been kept out of the dialogue and for good reason did you know that on may day on in one thousand nine hundred seventy one the army herded seven thousand protesters into a stadium turned prison camp right here in washington d.c. well that was back in the one nine hundred seventy isn't a lot's changed since then right well not exactly the infamous incident of the u.s. military interfering in local law enforcement operations leads us to a recently released document called quote internment and resettlement operations the manual outlines policies for processing detainees and internment camps inside and outside of the u.s. including the reeducation of in detainees to ensure their integration back into society so is this the hyperbolic situation of the worst case scenario or does this manual shed a light on what's to come in the us tell me answer some of those questions i'm joined now by alex jones host of the alex jones show hey alex so the government you know the government writes lots of memos about hyperbolic situations that never
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really come to fruition why is this one so different. sure that's a good question this is not just a contingency plan in the sixty's seventy's eighty's we had rex eighty four and other plans now there's been a massive ratcheting up and billions of dollars a year being spent the last decade or so to actually take old military bases out of the civilian inmate labor camp program under the emergency centers establishment act and to prepare them for quote emergencies but i've been to the drills and noticed they were training with the role players to put american political dissidents in them they always tell the media that it's for disasters domestically or foreign wars and putting people in camps like aba grave in iraq or camp x.-ray in cuba but now more and more documents are coming out confirming what i already had from sources and my research into this and the four films i've made in the police state series starting with police tape two thousand in one thousand nine
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hundred nine where i witnessed marines training to confiscate firearms on the west coast and put americans both the left and right into camps and even segregate them according to their different political persuasions now we have an army document that dovetails with a huge increase spending hiring tens of thousands of people in the military to specifically be in term and camp officers and i actually had military personnel both the whistle on this to me in the last year about the hiring of tens of thousands of people in the training camps that they've set up to train the prison guards for these and in this new document oh yeah i was going to say i talk a little bit yeah you're talking about the you know they're hiring hundred thousand people and talk a little bit about the psyop program within the document and what that really means i mean the ridge occasion aspect of this document should people care about that explain a little more about that. exactly that's what sensational about this is they went
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from saying there aren't camps to ok we're building a bunch of them and manning them and they have other contracts to prepare for private contractors to be ready within seventy hours or so to be able to fully manned the camps that are already built and in this new document this isn't some contingency plan this is the manual and i can give people the number it's f e m three dash thirty nine dollars forty and they admit this is real. to psychologically brainwash with loud speakers to bring the political dissidents in who are there because of their political views and to take them into other segregated areas of the camps and it talks about psyop ing them conditioning them with classic twenty four hour you'll blaring loud speakers and what's crazy is when i've been to these arbonne work for a drills that's what they announce is civil disobedience will not be tolerated your first amendment has been cancelled and then when i had camera crews the g twenty in
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pittsburgh two years ago they had the police under military training saying the exact same thing and even attacking students at the college who weren't even protesting we got video of young women on bicycles they were saying daytime nighttime curfew stay in your your dormitories beating women over the head with billy clubs just for fun just to set the precedent that hey you don't come out of your dorm that was famous footage of the g. twenty under pentagon control with the local police and national guard with with with german shepherds old women coming out of the grocery store with bags and they're told you can't be on the street it's broad daylight and they release the german shepherds who began biting the old women i mean this is just absolutely off the charts even the most authoritarian states don't act like this and the social controllers the big banks of the taking over this country and their collaborators in the police and military are openly trying to train the police and military to be
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attack dogs and now we've got north korean style gulags with reeducation camp manuals right out of the most authoritarian regimes this world has seen this is what really proves what is and what is a reintegration even me i mean how can they be sure that someone is ready to be reintegrated into society it just seems it seems like an interesting concept to explore. what do you think that means i mean what would that entail well we know what happens in classical reeducation camps they get people within the camps to turn against those that are picked out to be persecuted and and really it's about the mass of people getting into serving the can't guards and being collaborators those that are chosen as the political dissidents to be tortured and abused and broken they're generally kept for decades or put it slave labor they're never to be released the real secret of
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a reeducation camp under the soviet. nazi model camaro rouge model of all systems have become authoritarian have done that is the real point of this re-education camp center is to get the majority to join in on oppressing citizens and then some of the best in forcers of the authoritarian system are those that are actually in the reeducation camp they're finding people not to break them but who will enjoy serving the system that's what these camps are really about just like they've used aboud gras even but more importantly they've used camp x.-ray at the base in guantanamo bay to create the new al qaeda that they used to go take over libya and they're using to attack syria so the truth is it's actually a training ground to find and create double agent al qaeda well that's the same thing here these reeducation camps are actually factories to create collaborators
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alex i want to talk a little bit about the memo where it says that invokes a special restriction on the posse common tatas act but i thought that bush and the john warner defense authorization act of two thousand and seven already suspended the posse qantas act i was one of you can explain what that exactly means to civilians. well i got to say from all the artsy shows i've done that are excellent you are asking the best questions it's three hundred plus pages it actually states that well the response of common taught us but the president can suspend that so it all intents and purposes it's already suspended kind of like congress told obama you've got to get authorization to launch a war in libya and he said i don't need that anymore and so they talk about policy common taught as but only to state it's hollow and dead and yes the john warner defense authorization act the n.d.a. all of these just further to spin the posse comitatus the eight hundred seventy eight law barring the military being used on the streets of america do you think of these measures alex are being set up an anticipation for some sort of global you
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know unrest domestically i mean it just seems like after nine eleven all these measures haven't taken place why what or what is the purpose of assuring them and so quickly and john warner and this what do you think they're preparing for. well we've seen the economist magazine time magazine you name it say bank of the world technocrats the world will no longer have freedom they brag goldman sachs has conquered europe goldman sachs has conquered us by having our politicians sign on to the impossible to pay quadrillion plus derivatives and so they're getting us ready for a total engineered collapse where those that collapse the society to reengineer it pose as the savior and so that's why they've taken old contingency plans of things they beta tested back in the seventy's and eighty's and have put it on a war footing and just ramped it up five hundred percent i mean it is just the it's not just this document it's billions a year now in the public bid for companies to supply the barbed wire the private
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security the interrogators i mean it's all there you just have to look at each document put them together and it is it is frightening a lot of it is interesting alex and you know it is also worth noting that they and the government has said that it's not a matter of if but when there will be a digital terrorist attack and that could explain the crackdowns on the internet and the fight that we're seeing on that front that was alex jones host of the alex jones show. still ahead on our team what does the government takedown of the popular hosting site mean for the internet freedom and copyright law the answers coming up right after the break. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions it's going to be precluded sort of deeply and maybe who can you trust no one who is interview with the global missionary to see where we had
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i. love the capital account i'm lauren lyster. the mega seizure of mega upload one of the government takedown of the popular hosting site mean for internet freedom and copyright law apparently the government doesn't need any law to stand in their way of going after people over copyright infringement days after sopa and people were
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voted down the u.s. government bypassed criminal courts to shut down and seize the assets of the website over what they see as copyright infringement so is this an overstepping of federal authority and what does it reveal about a revolving door relationship between government and commercial interests julie samuels is a staff attorney for the electronic frontier foundation she focuses on intellectual property issues and joins me now to break down the case. julie what does this say about a federal overstepping of the law. well everything this time and again where the government does exactly that and goes in takes down the whole site because it alleges that there are. that content exists on those sites that infringes copyright but it does this without paying any attention to all of the content on those sites that is completely legal content and that's incredibly troubling exactly. to spring our next question is how is it legal to shut down a hosting site that hosts hundreds if not thousands of people who are infringing
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copyright material and just to seize the assets of that how is that legal well the government you know i think that there are serious problems that the government did but the government would argue i think if they were sitting in this chair that they believe there's so much infringement on the site they have no choice but to take the whole thing down now i think this is this is not a good reading of the law and in fact what the law does say is that if a service or a product or in this case a website has what's called substantial non infringing uses then the product the site whatever is legal as the primary example of this is the v.c.r. . way back in the eighty's the movie industry sued betamax for the early versions of the v.c.r. and within a five to four vote in the supreme court that found that the v.c.r. was legal and they found it was legal because there were these substantial non
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infringing uses the word in you could do with a v.c.r. that did not infringe copyright the same i believe is true with cloud storage services like mega upload or about t.v. shock takedown as well who were just simply linking to sites that held copyright material then or what offices of the government i actually believe that the sites that are taken down due to linking where they were just linked to what is allegedly copyrighted material are more troubling because the. it seems that the law is pretty clear that linking is not copyright infringement merely linking is doing nothing wrong do you think that it was symbolic at all for the government to have taken down these sites just days after sopa and people were voted down i would say that it's hard to believe it was a coincidence can you talk a little bit about how you continue as it were literally a day or two after you know and as you said at the outset here we've seen time and
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again that the government does have this incredibly comfortable and troubling relationship with this instance of the movie industry but we've seen time and again that the traditional content industry that hollywood is all right double a and the n.p.a. is able to exert some power and kind of push the government to do certain things like take down web sites like mega upload what is the coalition that you're saying exists i mean explain a little bit more about that is there really you know massive lobbying dollars going behind the government really from hollywood and the first piece is as you said massive lobbying dollars and that completely happens i mean but the good news is when we talk about lobbying dollars is that as we saw during silva and pippa for example. that that can be repotted right when enough people get involved no matter how massive the lobbying dollars were and don't get me wrong they were massive.
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when internet users make their voices heard we can affect change but it's not just in lobbying dollars. howley would industries often go and give presentations to law enforcement explaining why they think it should be a law enforcement priority and just to be clear we are talking about the same law of course meant that. that enforces all laws in the united states and i think it's worth having a conversation about whether shutting down the sites for some alleged copyright infringement is the best use of our won foresman dollars. what about the current legislation and people now says is it just going to keep morphing and told something gets passed kind of under the radar i mean how can we haven't seen this massive uproar against cisco like we did against sopa well i think we are seeing a massive again just but unfortunately passed through the house but i think it still has got an uphill battle in the senate and there are some fundamental flaws with that bill it's not a copyright right or
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a slightly different issue but i think we are staying vigilant i think we are going to see again new versions of pippa probably not until after the election it's kind of a toxic subject matter right now which is good news so let's talk a little bit about ken dotcoms case you just give us a brief update on what's going on well as i understand kim dotcom is still in new zealand and he's not been extradited to the united states so that could take some time and before that happens. procedurally nothing will really get rolling until he's here before the united states court and what do you see happening with all this thing more federal overstepping taking on websites willing the way i mean what do you say the future is of our protecting our rights on the internet. i think is actually a very important issue and i think you just really hit the nail on the head about what's at stake and. i should have mentioned at the outset that we are actually
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representing an innocent third party in this case who lost access to his data and we were trying to push the government and make the upload and the service provider and all of the parties to come up with a process to make sure that innocent third parties like our client get their data back and this is fundamentally important because there needs to be a process in place the next time the government takes down one of these sites this process needs to be in place from the outset because now it's this huge project we're all scrambling it's going to logistically be difficult to get the data returned but if the government had been more responsible and more concerned at the outset i think it would been a lot easier to make that happen really just to make this clear your client was hosting on mega upload not hosting anything copyright himself correct correct he was he our client names kyle goodwin he owned a owns a business called ohio sports net where they cover local high school sports in ohio and part of that they videotaped for example a lot of sports games. the whole season for example girls' high school soccer and
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he would share these videos with his producers across the state and file a rather large it could be sent over e-mail it didn't make sense to drive around the state so they shared all their files and mega upload he had a premium subscription and he also had everything backed up incidentally on an extra hard drive which crashed two days before make a blood came down thank you so much joy i will definitely be following their case and very closely as well as every other copyright case out there. very important issue to follow because julie samuels stuff attorney with the electronic frontier foundation we talk about what count is up next on our team let's check in with more on mr to see what's on today's agenda lauren hey abby well with elections this weekend in france and greece all eyes are kind of on europe and the eurozone crisis and the e.c.b. the european central bank came out today and announced basically nothing they said they're going to keep rates the same now the interesting thing abbey they did this
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in barcelona as you know spain has a very high unemployment rate twenty five percent close to that one in four so they did this announcement with stepped up security thousands more police they imposed border controls and they suspended the treaty that allows free travel with other members of the eurozone so yeah i have to wonder what's really going on abbi we're going to get into it though we're going to talk euro zone crisis with an economist in europe constantine gurdjieff so everybody looking to get filled in on the real story is not going to want to miss it looking forward to it laurin thanks a lot well that does it for now for more on the stories we cover to go to youtube dot com slash our to america or check out our website our to dot com slash usa and you can also follow me on twitter at abby martin.
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