video on demand. st now with the palm of your. g.o.p. presidential underdog ron paul is seriously looking like a winner sweeping across the nation winning delegates left and right it seems the texas statesman is giving front runner mitt romney a run for his money so all significant are these delegate pickups and could ron paul of the very late least become a kingmaker come november. and it was created after nine eleven to keep the flying public safe but now the t.s.a. seems more concerned with surging ninety year old grandmothers and love getting a little too fresh for some very airport pat downs one u.s. lawmaker says the transportation security administration is out of control and he wants them taken down we'll explore.

but that's a goal. now maybe three months later to be another one maybe six months later to be another one if you can disband the occupy wall street movement why not discredit them is us law enforcement actively trying to tarnish the public image of the movement our team questions more. it is monday may seventh five pm in washington d.c. my name is christine for and you're watching our tea let's begin with this hour with a look at some of the changes in terms of delegate count for the two republican candidates left in the race now the numbers are a little fluid and we won't have an exact count really intel the republican convention in august but over the weekend there were a few of the headlines that we saw how ron paul could mess with romney at the g.o.p. convention ron paul power play at main g.o.p.

convention ron paul wins the majority of delegates from maine g.o.p. and ron paul now has nevada delegates from romney now for many in the mainstream media ron paul continues to be ignored but more and more respected publications are catching on saying at the very least ron paul is a force to be reckoned with so let's talk about this i've got austin petersen director of interactive media of freedom works here. in talk about this i mean on one hand ron paul has said this is his strategy from day one keep it grassroots take advantage of some of these you know arcane delegate selection rules and make this work for him what's going on here well you know we started this campaign for liberty back in two thousand and eight really and we understand that the democratic process works a very complex matter these these rules are very arcane so we were very inexperienced in two thousand and eight with the take over the g.o.p. so we were unsuccessful but at the time we were able to take over some leadership positions in the g.o.p. at the time which has given us power in this election because. the thing that only

matters is the selection of delegates not much of the straw polls that you saw which gave santorum or romney a victory really didn't mean anything because what mattered was that you stay to become elect or the electoral college is the system that the founding fathers gave the americans and once we started to master the electoral college process the ron paul delegates have been able to successfully start to take over these parties because they put themselves in leadership roles we saw in maine in nevada over the weekend also i was so interesting iowa because first romney won iowa then centaur and won and now we're seeing that ron paul in fact has the most delegates and right right well they say mitt romney won or rick santorum won but what did they win they want a straw poll win the straw poll is over at night they say ok everybody can go home but what happens after that is that they say ok now we're going to do select some delegates and if you don't know the rules then you might just go home so what happened was romney supporters went home santorum supporters went home ron paul

supporters stayed and that's how they took the delegates and we're not sitting here at least i'm not sitting here and trying to make the case that rocked that mitt romney probably won't become the republican nominee but i do want to put up a map just to take a look at what it's looking like so far these are the states that ron paul has won the ones in red that you see there it looks like about eleven of them and in some ways this doesn't look like an election that's all over this strategy you know again this is not a secret that ron paul's people have been using focusing on the delegate tally do you think some people are surprised when they look at this map they're surprised if they're watching television there they can't be surprised because the mainstream media is mostly not reporting on what's happening in this it's also very complex it's difficult to understand ron paul supporters want a win we're pushing for number one we want to take the presidency we want to take the white house we want to restore the republic that's the big goal but there are all sorts of little victories that can be one along the way and we have to keep pushing in a stair stepping manner there are things that we can do like we can affect the

platform. which would essentially give us more power to change the dynamic of the country change the conversation towards the issues that we really want like auditing of the fed or or things like abolishing the t.s.a. or abolishing the i.r.s. things like that so we can affect the dialogue by pushing for the number one victory trying to win the presidency but even if we didn't even if we lost there would be all sorts of little battles that we could win along the way and come back in twenty sixteen if we need to and i think you'd be hard pressed to say that the conversation has not already changed when you talk about the things that you mentioned things like the fed in some cases the gold standard the t.s.a. there are many sort of main stream or more mainstream conservatives getting onboard starting to adopt these arguments. however there are other things that ron paul has come to represent an end to the wars a position that is not overly loving to israel these are things that i think a lot of conservatives just can't get onboard with you say the number one mission

is to get him elected would you say that those are your biggest barriers perhaps i mean some conservatives would disagree with us on things like ending the war some of them would tend to be more overtly pro israel but you know one poll does argue that his position is more pro israel in the sense that if we had a position of neutrality in foreign affairs we wouldn't be telling israel what to do when it comes to their border skirmishes they might have a little bit more national sovereignty such as the united states to decide what they want to do. so when you talk about things like that you know some people can say that maybe his position is a little bit more pro israel rather than sort of anti israel but things like ending the wars which wars you know there's so many wars going on you know not all conservatives support all the wars you know some wars or democrat wars the war in libya for example that was obama who started the nato bombing with france and britain to to unseat khadafi that was however you had some of the most well known hard core republicans lindsey graham john mccain saying libya should have lasted longer and been more hardcore sure absolutely but you also had some hard core tea party republicans like michele bachmann come out who you would say might be.

pro-war in certain cases come out against the obama administration for this because they did not seek authorization of congress and it was totally unconstitutional very true i want to get your reaction austin to the people who say that the only reason that ron paul is doing this is a staying in the race and be continuing to campaign is for his son that he wants to get his son now kentucky republican senator rand paul eventually in a spot where he might run for president in four years or eight years what's your reaction to that i mean it might be but that just doesn't sound like ron paul to be so singularly focused on something like that i think ron paul is more the type of person who wants to carry the torch you know he wants to light up the minds of young people like the brushfires of liberty i think the rand paul issue is something that is significant i think that if we were to lose this election and rand paul came back in two thousand and sixteen running for president he would have the machinery of the ron paul campaign to be able to do with i think that would be really exciting and interesting and probably ron thinks about that too but he's not the type of person to really predict the future he's really a very pragmatic person as much as they say he's you know this ideologue who you

know lives in this fantasy world he really does make very practical steps to advance to his cause and so if he was thinking about something like advancing the cause of senator rand paul or something like that then it's probably more on the side the side issues of his mind something that he would hope for but not necessarily know that it's going to happen let's look ahead to the republican national convention again ron paul the only other person still in this race and a lot of people are asking first of all we haven't seen in the same way that we saw newt gingrich and rick santorum or really come down hard on mitt romney we haven't seen ron paul do that there's a lot of talk in the inner circles that you know these guys are buddies they get along what a lot of people are wondering what is it that ron paul wants. from romney in exchange for either his delegates or his endorsement is there going to be some sort of exchange that we see happening out and that's really that's really exciting a little story that's going on behind the scenes that's a really good question you know i talk to libertarians all the time about this you know the secret romney paul alliance and i asked them i say what. ron paul

supporter what could get you to vote for mitt romney and i actually have found that a lot of libertarians have said to me that the only way that they could vote for mitt romney is if they do a deal with ron paul or something something like he's the v.p. or senator rand paul is the v.p. we have like a judge enter into politics though as an attorney general and we have an audit of the fed and the firing in public shaming of ben bernanke now that would be the kind of thing that a libertarian could get behind and say well if mitt romney has changed so much then he's flip flopped over to be a libertarian that a libertarian might be able to pull the lever for him now that's a really small until it's of course but it's the kind of thing that gives libertarians hope and keeps us working for the working forward and i think it's an important thing to look out to because right now i mean it is only may but you're looking at these polls and you're seeing romney obama in a dead heat if you know romney loses the ron paul supporters if they just don't vote for anyone after all i think you're going to see a different race and some different numbers appreciate you having on having you on the show austin petersen director of interactive media freedom works thanks so much

thank you. also ahead here on our team at the t.s.a. that frisky fingers apparently robbed one g.o.p. lawmaker the wrong way he's now calling for an end to the entire system so could there be a strip down of t.s.a. sketchy practice we'll be back in a moment. a part of american power continues. things that are. might actually be time revolution. and it turns out that a popular drink or starbucks has a surprising him greedy and. well we were just talking about ron paul and on many issues that ron paul's son kentucky senator rand paul is following in his father's footsteps certainly both men are in

favor of smaller government with as little regulation as possible and the younger paul is focusing his efforts on the transportation security administration the t.s.a. now he issued a statement last week saying the american people shouldn't be subject subjected to harassment groping and other public humiliation simply to board an airplane because you may have heard i have some personal experience with this and i vowed to lead the charge to fight back you may remember senator rand paul missed an event here in d.c. after a trip to the airport a few months ago while passing through a full body scanner his needs somehow raised a red flag and t.s.a. agents asked him to submit to an aunt hands on search senator paul refused and then it up missing his flight now earlier i spoke with charlie mcgrath founder of wide awake news dot com and i asked him why he thinks this is an issue senator paul is choosing to focus on now. well i think he's following obviously in the footsteps of his father watching the usurpation of liberty in this country and it terrifies him just as much as it does his father and just as much as it does myself you know i

went through the airport and i refused to go through the naked body scanners so if i if i'm a cattle car into one of the lines that has a naked body scanner i'll take the invasive pat down mainly in a civil protest in order to slow the process up but it's extremely invasive extremely invasive me they make sure that they you understand that they're there to dominate intimidate and control so you know i'm glad to see rampaul is stepping up in his efforts to shut this canard down this canard that we have safety through the transportation safety agency and as you as you did mention already his father presidential candidate ron paul has actually been talking about putting to an end to the t.s.a. for years now he goes as far as to say this increased number of t.s.a. agents and pat downs is just another sign that the police state in this country is growing out of control ron paul's views this particular view that rand paul has put

forth do you really think that a majority of americans feel this way as well. well i no i don't know i can't speak for the majority americans unfortunately my personal thought is they don't because there's subjugated to the nonstop propaganda from the mainstream media and as well as the washington it's not it's not a week goes by it seems like we don't hear of some contrived terror attack that was squirted i think through the efforts of the f.b.i. or the joint terrorism task force or the t.s.a. and when we look into these we don't even look very deep into it when we just look barely under the surface we see in most cases you know for example the cleveland five the cleveland bombers that were announced on may day may first. or did attack these this was an f.b.i. set up from start to finish so i think most americans think that washington d.c. is there to protect them and most americans do not remember the lessons of history

of people like benjamin franklin saying when you want to give up your liberty for safety you're going to get and deserve neither and i think that's where we're at right now christine but i think a lot of americans don't even look that far many of them haven't heard about the quake which we actually will be talking about a little later in the show what they see is the fact that there has not been a successful terrorist attack on board an airplane since nine eleven really and so you know there needs to be some sort of you know what method that make sure that guns and bombs and other weapons don't get on board planes i guess i'm wondering i mean this is obviously an issue that you care about what do you think are some good alternative solutions i think the private sector always provides the best solution now the argument going to be that we had private sector security or screeners on nine eleven but the fact is i mean you know we've had a hundred years of aviation in this country and we've had one terror attack and

there's a lot of people that question did the united states know about this before it happened but look what we did. we instead of ratcheting up maybe regulation on the private sector for security we've turned into this monster the security this acuity industrial complex is completely out of control in this country spending billions and billions of dollars every single year that we don't have that we could have borrow from other countries such as china in fact in washington d.c. today we have nearly four thousand t.s.a. officials in d.c. not protecting anybody except for their own jobs making over one hundred thousand dollars a year so i think the answer is simple we do need security but we don't need this monstrous government apparatus controlling our very lives and they don't even look for the people that are allegedly the enemy they're patting down little old ladies are patting down people in rand paul's case you have some kind of knee implement and it set off the detector so they beheld him up they're not doing this to keep

america safe they're doing this to keep themselves in a job you know and from what i understand it no longer is it just in airports that some of these things are happening there are now random bag checks and sweeps on buses and trains and from what i understand t.s.a. continues today to enhance its relationship you know with city and county police departments what is your concern for you know as we see this expansion take place before our eyes i mean what is your major concern about this. my major concerns already come and when we are in a stars you police state a politician herself alluded to the idea that you know windows the screeners came on line that people can travel another way if they don't want to fly and go through the security procedure where you can't do that now now if you go by plane you're going to be strip searched or patted down if we're going to go by bus in texas they just had these viper teams come out and do random searches there in arkansas we had or excuse me no no we had amtrak subject to search and in virginia they're

searching cars on a bridge so there is no safe place that you can go or travel safe way to travel that you're not going to have the government in your business so that is my main concern it isn't what's coming it's what's absolutely right here in again they're going to justify it by a couple different ways they're going to say either if you have nothing to fear then you'll just submit to the basic random searches but the fact is that is stealing your liberty you have everything to fear when a government bureaucrat is standing before you telling you to show me your papers time certainly have changed in the last decade or so in the way we travel and what frankly most people have just gotten used to telling mcgrath a founder of why do we make news dot com in bozeman montana and we should mention the cia has just announced that they have successfully forwarded yet another al qaeda underwear bomb plot u.s. officials say all cases affiliate in yemen hope to destroy a u.s. bound airliner using a device in a passenger's underwear the f.b.i. still examining the device but it did not contain any metal and most likely would

have even been detected by some of those metal detectors and scanners at the airports. speaking of a foiled plots you may remember hearing last week about a group that's come to be known as the cleveland five five men self described anarchists had a plan to valma bridge in ohio or so said an f.b.i. informant who apparently got to know them at certain events put on by the occupy wall street movement in cleveland but many of the facts in the case the government is speaking about are not adding up so our to correspondent marina port nial looked a little deeper into this story and discovered there are quite a few layers behind the headlines. what began last september returned with a vengeance on the first of may tens of thousands of americans across the country expressing collective outrage over wealth inequality little preparation and money by evening federal agents have busted up an anarchist plot in cleveland five people

are under arrest the occupy movement made headlines for a very different reason this group here of so-called anarchists are in custody accused of wanting to blow up a bridge in ohio the self-proclaimed anarchists wanted to stop money flow into the one percent of the federal government a message they have even ties to occupy cleveland as well the f.b.i. says the five ohio suspects were intent on using violence to express their ideological views that allowed some occupy critics to incriminate the entire movement is occupy wall street based on the allegations that we have or that bridge should it be considered a domestic terrorist organization the f.b.i. not only for oil the alleged terrorist plot it also used a government paid informant to help orchestrate it that man identified as shaquille as e's collaborated with the suspects loaned cash made introductions and then an undercover f.b.i. agent sold these folks according to the prosecution the c.

four explosives orchestrated ok. it's all orchestras i was involved in this for a long time i was trained to entrap another game very well f.b.i. informant turned whistleblower kreg spent six years working for the agency he says as long as the u.s. remains a threat to washington and wall street cases like the cleveland five will become more commonly. but that's the goal. now maybe three months later to be another one maybe six months later to be another one where now the occupy movements really take it and no one to be around them so much because there may be some type of terrorist plan or plot. before the cleveland five came the new birth for a terrifying plot the f.b.i. claims to have boarded f.b.i. operatives provided the fake c four and actually showed them

a fake stinger missile the four muslim suspects were arrested and charged with attempting to carry out terrorist attacks no direction by a foreign entity or real terrorist group instead direction came from an f.b.i. informant who monitored induced and facilitated the fabricated plot reportedly paid one hundred thousand dollars for his services in america's post nine eleven decade scores of u.s. muslim citizens have been arrested and convicted through sting operations involving f.b.i. informants. today as the ninety nine percent becomes a bigger challenge for washington some say angry activists could replace scary muslims as the so-called new face of homegrown terror i think that occupy wall street is dealing with big enough issues and there are enough people who are committed enough to the movement that it probably will have political prisoners maybe sooner than later occupy cleveland issued a statement saying that while the five men arrested were associated with the movement they were in no way representing or acting on behalf of the group and

f.b.i. spokesperson also said the incident was not an occupy movement want facts which so far have not stopped many from branding occupy with an unfavorable state or an important i.r.t. new york. well look a little deeper into the entrapment aspect of this case many facets of the government not to mention wall street are of course ready for the occupy wall street movement to go away and it's not just these so-called dirty hippie disruptors of the piece being targeted since nine eleven hundreds of muslims have been targeted as well with similar tactics like using these so-called informants often time inside mosques to try to forge relationships and get information and to talk more about this i was joined earlier by lynn jackson president and co-founder of project salaam dot org and i asked her if she was surprised to learn. to say what was going on here yes i think that that is one of the issues

in this case from the press reports that i've read about the cleveland queues one of the interesting things is that supposedly the defendants were talking about. smoke bombs but then for somehow it turned into a real bomb and i have to wonder how much time how much the informant might have had to do with that is that it's you know what happens in these cases which is happen to the muslims is the informants will often spend hundreds of hours taping people and then of course the prosecution can just pick out you know short clips because who's going to listen to the hundreds of hours of you know talking just regular talking and we did hear it in the report that we just showed we heard from a former f.b.i. informant who said you know this is standard practice are you surprised by this. well you know i'm not surprised i mean clearly the government has been targeting muslims they use these tactics and now because of the occupy movement because

a lot of you know some people don't like what the occupy movement wants to do that i'm not surprised at all that the f.b.i. has begun to infiltrate the occupy movement and you know have their informants possibly create these plots it's interesting because oftentimes these you know so-called informants or other criminals spared long prison sentences and deportation for their help or they're paid a whole lot of money by the government i know in this cleveland case the thirty nine year old informant to kill of these was paid nearly six thousand dollars he had prior convictions for cocaine possession for robbery four convictions for writing bad checks i guess it's just hard to swallow and some of these cases i mean is this really a trustworthy source you know i believe that if you know it's a lot easier for the f.b.i. to convict people when the f.b.i. is the one who creates the plot for example in new york for case the f.b.i.

not only. did you know they're going to want to. determine where the supposed that attack was supposed to take they're the ones that they're the ones who. provided the you know drove the the defendants around they're the ones who who work on all these kinds of things and that is really what created the plot in the newburg for case you know i believe that if there had been no informant there would have been no plot well the aunts one of the men said they couldn't even organize a barbecue let alone a terror. but we do have to say you know in this cleveland case one of the accused did by eight bricks of c four and mentioned that he wanted to blow up a bank i mean it is it's not a good lead good evidence to go on. well you know you have to look at you know what went on before all of this and is it that he said to the informant this is what i want to you or does the informant work with him for weeks or months say well you

know you need to do well or urge him on or egging him on you know some of the tapes when you listen to them and you realize that oftentimes the informant who eggs people on to say oh come on you know do this you know do that because the informant often has quite an incentive to make sure that this case happened because they are you they're facing criminal charges themselves facing possible deportation or they're going to get paid a lot of money if they're successful and so they have a tremendous amount of incentive such as in the newburgh for case the informant offered one of the defendants a quarter of million dollars to do the plot now that there is that right should he have done that you know it doesn't seem quite quite fair to me and i know that these types of cases are made and when the arrests happen whichever agency is

involved when i work in local news in california we were always getting called you know by the immigrations and customs enforcement about some major drug bust in this case the f.b.i. they always seem to make the case to the american people that now because of this investigation because of this undercover operation the american people are safer are they. well i don't believe that when you create when you create these kinds of situations but you're making the country safer for i mean just sort of back to the newburgh for example the idea was that the informant was go and and find quote so-called terror plots however when the informant went into new for these four men who were involved in a new group for plot they didn't even know each other before the plot happened so how can it be that the informant is looking for terror cells so-called ourselves when in fact in the new work for case there was no cell for many many months until

finally the main informant was able to recruit other people i think i don't know at the very early to beg the question you know exactly what kind of coordination facilitation is going on and with this have happened if not for these would be informants when jackson co-founder and president of projects salaam appreciate your insights. all right well it's the time of day again to check in with our web seamen see what they've been working on our web producer andrew blakers in the newsroom taking a quick break from his art work hey andrew you're doing well thank you what are you working on for us today whole bunch of stuff as usual first off we'll take you down to texas we go to vanguard aerospace company that specializes in making drones and turns out that they're making a lot of these unmanned robotic aircrafts and sending them overseas but to whom we don't really know soon go to our to dot com slash usa and find out where defense contractors are sending these crazy expensive dangerous spy planes and i think it's

a good question i think a lot of people don't often think about or ask about what else you got staying in the sky we got a story following up on the air force's fleet of f. twenty two is how a bunch of pilots are now saying they won't even get in the planes until the air force fully investigates finds out what's causing all these problems with them and then we'll take you down to san diego california where ron paul was over the weekend he did a great speech over at the university of california at san diego and really tried to take on the issue of enforcing the internet and how the it's not letting the government do it ron paul versus cisco you can read all about it on our to dot com slash usa watch out all right r.t. web producer and your black with a preview of what's trending today on our web site thanks so much and for us that's going to do it but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our team america or check out our website r t dot com slash usa and you should of course also find me on twitter and.