g.o.p. presidential hopeful ron paul's campaign is picking up steam not to mention lots and lots of delegates well it's like the texas statesman is taking many politicos in this country by surprise so how significant are these delegates pick up and could ron paul be a kingmaker come november. the debate he hears of over a planned missile defense shield in eastern europe the u.s. and nato are pushing the idea well russia says not so fast so will we see another arms race is the missile defense shield even viable. if. that's the goal. now maybe three months later to be another one maybe six months

later that we have another one if you can disband the occupy wall street movement why not discredit it is u.s. law enforcement actively trying to tarnish the public image of the movement are to questions for. his money may seventh seven pm in washington d.c. i'm christine frees hour you're watching r t well let's begin this hour with a look at some changes in terms of delegate counts for the two republican candidates left in the race over the weekend ron paul scored big time at the maine and nevada republican conventions paul that eighteen of the twenty four delegates at stake in maine and twenty two of the twenty five in nevada those numbers of course a little fluid and we may not know the actual totals until the republican convention in august but we do want to show you some of the headlines that we saw. check this out how ron paul could mess with romney at the g.o.p.

convention ron paul power play at main g.o.p. convention ron paul wins the majority of delegates from maine g.o.p. and ron paul in nabs nevada delegates from romney now for a whole lot of people in the mainstream media ron paul continues to be ignored but some people are catching on saying at the very least he is a force to be reckoned with and i want to talk more about this so let's go to political analyst shelley roche hey sally how big of a difference do these victories in vain and a vat as we saw last week in iowa make well these victories are huge huge the impact zone what we're seeing is that the establishment is in real trouble now one of their primary go to argument against ron paul has always been unelectable and that is vote for ron paul is a wasted vote and we're all feeling this weekend is just not the case ron paul supporters are greater in number more passionate and what we saw this weekend more

organized than anyone in the political establishment has given credit for and just to put it plain and simple i do want to put a map up on the screen kind of showing the breakdown of the states as of now and who has won them this map that we're showing ron paul is in the red there and of eleven states have gone to him romney is in the blue and then of course and herman gingrich no longer in the race they've only got a few states anyways so when you take a look at the at a map like this you've got to ask you know is this contest really totally over as a lot of people are saying. no it's absolutely not still over you know it's very clear signal that despite you know the establishment of control of the mainstream media and their unlimited resources and you know they'd have you believe that the race is over and that romney is a shoo in we're seeing that a growing number of americans are actually starting to think differently and ask

questions and they're expressing their dissatisfaction with our political system by getting out there and you know supporting a candidate like ron paul over the weekend in nevada there was some interesting claims made i want to play something for you and i will talk about it there we go mitt romney supporter wearing the ron paul shirt. sending out fraudulent documents trying to use you like. so so far these claims are not been verified but you know that this guy here at the convention reporting that mitt romney supporter actually put on a ron paul's shirt and was trying to change some of the results here do you think there could be validity to this. well it's certainly possible i mean if you look at what happened four years ago. the about a g.o.p. shut down the convention when they saw that ron paul was winning you know we've seen we've seen any number of shenanigans happen because ron paul is such a threat to the to the establishment so you know i think i think none of that is

outside the realm of possibility and i'll be very interested to see what happens i want to talk about some of ron paul's viewpoints certainly four years ago as you mentioned he was really ignored as he made some interesting points in a lot of the debates that we saw a few months ago you know you did start to see him once in a while on c.n.n. on on fox news talk a little bit about what you've seen and some of his libertarian viewpoint some of his arguments in terms of why this country is going in the wrong direction wanting to change that have actually seen in to the more mainstream conservative political discussion well the thing that i've seen the most you know as you mentioned is is he was completely ignored in marginalized by the media in two thousand and eight and you know he still marginalized but he has been. front and center a lot more specifically around economic policy foreign policy and you know i think

just getting him into some of these media situations commenting on economics and all of his ideology is starting to get people used to be has a view that were once considered radical you know unelectable platforms you know they're starting to hear about it and and then when you have something like what happened last weekend it really it really validates that people are frustrated and that they're really responding to what ron paul saying and tell if you look at some of the recent polls in the presidential election the campaign i've been seeing in the last few days dead heat between romney and obama what happens if mitt romney loses some of those people who right now are supporting ron paul what if you know they don't show up to the polls or do you think that it would still be a dead heat well i think. if if

you know the worst case scenario if if romney goes all the way and. in tampa you know we don't see any any challenge by ron paul supporters i think he's still going to have to adopt some of ron paul's more accepted ideology india's platform because what the g.o.p. has seen is that these kind of libertarian independent dissatisfied voters are not being served by the republican party and so if he wants a chance to get those voters and to you know how a shot against obama he's going to have to. change his platform enough so that he will appeal to those people because well until when we talk about the convention coming up in tampa in august there's a lot of things that people aren't really sure of i mean this strategy that we're seeing right now with ron paul with sort of building up the delicate delegate count

you know this sort of arcane rules. ron paul's and his campaign said that seven the beginning that this is the strategy they were going to use and sure enough it's slowly but surely working for them or what do you expect that we will see at the campaign in august sorry at the convention oh i absolutely expect to see fireworks i think. ron paul supporters are so passionate and they're so engaged and they learned so much in two thousand and eight that we're already seeing better organization more sophistication and really you know the execution of this campaign strategy has been so successful despite all of the media blackout and all of that that it's really encouraging and i think we're going to see at the convention you know it's going to come to a head and we're going to have to have some coverage and it's going to be a debate and that's really going to benefit the country. do you expect there ron

paul could be a kingmaker especially if he throws his support behind romney. well i really do fear ron paul throwing his support behind romney so i don't think that's likely to happen it's certainly hard to tell there are so many differing viewpoints between the two men but there's a lot of the inside circles who say at the very least their friends you don't hear either of them attacking the other one so it should be interesting. and we will keep an eye on it as things are changing as we're seeing every single day political analyst shelley roshan san francisco thanks so much thank you. so i have here on r t united they stand but divided they will fall could there be an effort to tarnish the image of the occupy movement here in the u.s. by law enforcement our take questions more in a moment. welcome

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now. thousands of times i'm stronger than any one of the bird you ever put in your eye. well you might remember hearing last week about a group that's come to be known as the cleveland five five men self described anarchists had a plan allegedly to bomb a bridge in ohio or so said an f.b.i. informant who apparently got to know them at certain events put on by the occupy wall street movement in cleveland ohio but many of the facts in the case the government is speaking out about are not adding up so are to correspondent marina port i looked a little deeper into it and found there are quite a few layers behind the headlines. what began last september returned with a vengeance on the first of may tens of thousands of americans across the country

expressing collective outrage over wealth inequality little option and only by evening federal agents have busted up an anarchist plot and played like five people are under arrest the occupy movement made headlines for a very different reason this group here of so-called anarchists are in custody accused of wanting to blow up a bridge in ohio the self-proclaimed anarchists wanted to stop money flow into the one percent and said the federal government a message they have even ties to occupy cleveland as well the f.b.i. says the five ohio suspects were intent on using violence to express their ideological views that allowed some occupy critics to incriminate the entire movement is occupy wall street based on the allegations that we have or that bridge should it be considered a domestic terrorist organization the f.b.i. not only for you know the alleged terrorist plot it also used

a government paid informant to help orchestrate it that man identified as shaquille as e's collaborated with the suspects loaned cash made introductions and then an undercover f.b.i. agent sold these folks according to the prosecution the c. four explosives orchestrated ok it's all orchestras i was involved in this for a long time i was trained to entrap another game very well f.b.i. informant turned whistleblower craig spent six years working for the agency he says as long as the u.s. remains a threat to washington and wall street cases like the cleveland five will become more common. but that's the goal. now maybe three months later the be another one maybe six months later the be another one where now the occupy movement is really thank you and no i want to be around them so much because there may be some type of terrorist plan or plot. before the

cleveland five came the new birth for a terrifying plot the f.b.i. claims to have boarded f.b.i. operatives provided the fake c four and actually showed them a fake stinger missile the four muslim suspects were arrested and charged with attempting to carry out terrorist attacks no direction by a foreign entity or real terrorist group instead direction came from an f.b.i. informant who monitored induced and facilitated the fabricated plot reportedly paid one hundred thousand dollars for his services in america's post nine eleven decade scores of u.s. muslim citizens have been arrested and convicted through sting operations involving f.b.i. informants. today as the ninety nine percent becomes a bigger challenge for washington some say angry activists could replace scary muslims as the so-called new face of homegrown terror i think that occupy wall street is dealing with big enough issues and there are enough people who are

committed enough to the movement that it probably will have political prisoners maybe sooner than later occupy cleveland issued a statement saying that while the five men arrested were associated with the movement they were in no way representing or acting on behalf of the group and f.b.i. spokesperson also said the incident was not an occupy movement wants facts which so far have not stopped many from branding occupy with an unfavorable staying very important i.r.t. new york. and we want to look a little deeper into the entrapment aspect of this case many facets of the government not to mention wall street of course are ready for the occupy wall street movement to go away and it's not just the so-called dirty hippie disruptors of the piece being targeted since i live and hundreds of muslims have been targeted as well with similar tactics like using so-called informants oftentimes sending them into mosques to try to forge relationships and gather information and to talk more about this i was joined earlier by lynn jackson president and co-founder of

project salaam dot org and we first discussed how there seems to be a fin line between sporting and facilitating an attack in these cases yes i think that that is one of the issues in this case from the press reports that i've read about the cleveland keys one of the interesting things is that supposedly the defendants were talking about. smoke bombs but then for somehow it turned into real bombs and i have to wonder how much time how much the informant might have had to do with that is that it's you know what happens in these cases which is happen to the muslims is the informants will often spend hundreds of hours taping people and then of course the prosecution can just pick out you know short clips because who's going to listen to the hundreds of hours of you know talking just regular talking and we did hear it in the report that we just showed we heard from

a former f.b.i. informant who said you know what this is standard practice are you surprised by this. well you know i'm not surprised i mean clearly the government has been targeting muslims they use these tactics and now because of the occupy movement because a lot of you know some people don't like what the occupy movement wants to do that i'm not surprised at all that the f.b.i. has begun to infiltrate the occupy movement and you know have their informants possibly create these plots it's interesting because oftentimes these you know so-called informants or other criminals or spared long prison sentences and deportation for their help or they're paid a whole lot of money by the government i know in this cleveland case the thirty nine year old informants to kill of these was paid nearly six thousand dollars he had prior convictions for cocaine possession for robbery four convictions for writing bad checks i guess it's just hard to swallow and some of these cases i mean is this really a trustworthy source you know i believe that if you know it's

a lot easier for the f.b.i. to convict people when the f.b.i. is the one who creates the plot for example in new york for case the f.b.i. not only. did you know they were to want to. determine where the supposed that attack was supposed to take they're the ones that they're the ones who. provided the you know drove the the defendants around they're the ones who who work on all these kinds of things and that is really what created the plot in the newburg for case you know i believe that if there had been no informant there would have been no plot well the aunts one of the men said they couldn't even organize a barbecue let alone a terror. but we do have to say you know in this cleveland case one of the accused did by eight bricks of c four and mentioned that he wanted to blow up a bank i mean it is it's not

a good lead good evidence to go on. well you know you have to look at you know what went on before all of this and is it that he said to the informant this is what i want to you or do the informant work with him for weeks or months say well you know you need to do well or urge him on or egging him on you know some of the tapes when you listen to them and you realize that oftentimes the informant who begs people on to say oh come on you don't do this you know do that because the informant often has quite an incentive to make sure that this case happened because they are you they're facing criminal charges themselves facing possible deportation or they're going to get paid a lot of money if they're successful and so they have a tremendous amount of incentive such as in the newburgh for case the informant offered one of the defendants

a quarter of million dollars to do the plot now that there is that right should he have done that you know it doesn't seem quite quite fair to me and i know that these types of cases are made and when the arrests happen whichever agency is involved when i work in local news in california we were always getting called you know by the immigrations and customs enforcement about some major drug bust in this case a c.f.i. they always seem to make the case to the american people that now because of this investigation because of this undercover operation the american people are safer are they. well i don't believe that when you create when you create these kinds of situations but you're making the country safer i mean just to not actually do work for example the idea was that the informant was goalie and and find quote so-called terror plots however when you forgot went into new for these four men who

were involved in a new group for plot they didn't even know each other before the plot happened so how can it be that the informant is looking for gender cells so-called terror cells when in fact in the new work for case there was no cell for many many months until finally the main informant was able to recruit other people i think i don't know at the very least it begs the question you know exactly what kind of coordination facilitation is going on and with this have happened if not for these would be informants when jackson co-founder and president of project salaam appreciate your insights let's go now to a developing story about the u.s. missile defense shield based in europe and put in place to help protect european allies as well as the u.s. for months now president obama has said this is necessary to counter threats coming from iran but leaders in russia are opposed to the shield and especially its placement which many russian leaders say is actually aimed at russia's missiles

just last week russia's top military official threatened to preemptive military action on the missile defense facilities and the whole thing has certainly caused a rift in the u.s. russia russia relations now there's some new information out that major doubts are being cast by top people here in the u.s. about whether the missile defense shield will even work properly earlier i spoke with bruce gagne on the coordinator for global network against weapons and nuclear power in space and i asked him his thoughts on the program. well i think it's number one a paper to general bernie mac's corporation helped obama got elected get elected they gave him collectively the crown family in two thousand and eight with the majority stockholders and general dynamics that people bombing five hundred thousand dollars and also raise money for within the military industrial complex so that. right up to the election. we can space technology magazine reported

that obama received more campaign donations from the military industrial complex then the right wing war heart john mccain did so that certainly this can't just be about you know favors for friends if it's going to cause as much of a rift as it has without other countries namely russia oh that's right that's right but i think the payback is the key element in it but. because the aegis destroyers that are being outfitted with missile defense systems are made but by general dynamics i just wanted to get that point of view on that absolutely the united states is now surrounding russia with these missile defense systems and expanding nato and i believe the reason is because russia has the world's largest supplier of oil on significant excuse me of natural gas and significant supplies of oil and by now we should know that the pentagon's primary job in the world today is to serve as a resource extraction service for corporate globalization at the same time the obama

administration announcing a pivot of u.s. foreign and military policy into the asia pacific region is also surrounding china with the same missile defense system so clearly it restarting a new arms race that again will benefit these weapons corporations yeah i think it's interesting you bring up china this missile shield. you know has said to be. put in place to help contain china we also saw that the u.s. will be adding several hundred maybe even thousand troops in right off the coast of australia so it is it is interesting what we're seeing there but i want to say i mean it's not just the leaders in russia who have a problem with this plan with this missile defense shield i have a letter here written by the national academy of sciences this is calls into question many parts of the system now the people who wrote this these are top people here in the u.s. whose job it is to advise the government on science and technology and they say

they have doubts about whether this missile defense shield will even work properly talk about that that's right. from the national academy. there's been considerable. cost overruns and consider technology problems for a missile defense program and it's less than optimal way to defend the continental united states clearly i think one. puts too much emphasis on the problems with the program. it's part of a larger strategy to control and contain both russia and china and that is not think the most important point to be looked at here and indeed there are problems with almost every big technology program that comes along has problems if you get enough time and you give them enough money and they're going to work some of those things out they've already used the missile defense system on an aegis destroyer to

knock aside why the other space showing that it could be used the weapons there are considerable capabilities of these systems and given you a lot of money they're getting a lot of money but nine billion going into the missile defense agency. in time i think they can really make this thing boil will technology just sticking momentarily with the geo political aspect of this of course just today vladimir putin inaugurated in russia sworn in for his third term as president and of course much of the negotiating up to this point under president obama was done with president dmitri medvedev we know prudent has already said he won't be attending the nato summit at the end of this month in part to protest the missile shield which will be formally deployed then talk a little bit about how serious this is for international relations and in particular for those between the u.s. and russia. you know absolutely i think the you know the hard line is growing

between the u.s. and russia in fact i see in mainstream media across our country here in the u.s. that russia is increasingly being demonized as is china and i think there's no there's a reason for that and i think it's you know whether to make. russia and china the enemies in the coming period it will benefit the military industrial complex but i think the greatest issue here is the competition over declining resources on the world with the climate change it's happening which by the way is our real problem we should be investing in that rather than a whole new arms race on all sides we should be dealing with climate change but as we see the arctic melt increasingly they're now saying that they're going to be very well corporations are going to be able to do drilling for oil and natural gas in the arctic region which puts us in huge conflict with russia. so i think

that this nato expansion of this missile defense systems going into poland romania turkey and so in other countries throughout. the russia's neighborhood is all about trying to control russia and russia has access to resources russia's control resources and the same goes for china reason why we're so i mean china has because it's the only way the united states can really compete with china's growing economy is control their access to resources and it is certainly an interesting point you raise that how important overall resources around the world and they're increasingly limited supply plays in some of the decisions major countries make braised agnon coordinator for the global network against weapons and nuclear power in space joining us from brunswick maine. and for us here now that's going to do it but for more on the stories we covered go to you tube dot com slash r.t. america you can also check out our website it's r t dot com slash usa and you can

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