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i'll bernardo today we're talking about world war two. the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind took over sixty million lives one of the third reich finally collapsed and became evident the past as it should always be considered a lawful and a horrible place but sixty seven years later we see if little an absent father should in some countries where s.s. metro's or nerd like you so how can it be is seven decades and not to forget the absolute will discuss it with a russian historian bloody murder me deals here in my studio and joining us from riga latvia politician that's here let stella. sixty seven years have passed since nazis were defeated by the allied forces those responsible for more time atrocities were trying to nuremberg how about the case of the nazi ideology has never been completely alone just at least that's the impression that

you get when you see pictures of that transition the waffen the sas at public gatherings held a million of them to state this news event in riga was attended by about fifteen hundred the disciplines and the latin president spoke in support of the procession saying the latin waffen s.s. veterans were not criminals and deserved respect the view was not shared though by people to the streets of brega to protest the nazi veteran this march. this by general condemnation the world is really seeing a rise in there not many believe it to be part of the reason you must use massacre in norway when anders brave seven people who were strange you did do you normally see world war. how would you hello to china thank you very much for joining us here will first of all i long to ask you about the and here's brevik case that's for you he's facing trial for murdering seventy seven people in norway

do you go through you've led every new thirty or see it as a as a as part of a neo nazi threat immersion in europe or is it an isolated case of our our falak. it is not an isolated case they have watched a number of cases maybe not so harmful but also based on the same logic on the logic of fair trade and there isn't player b. in parliament itself has passed tourism lucian survive concern in congress and this trend to ride to being. how to say it will tell a tarion. kind of decision making and the emergence of extreme right wing party in the congress and there isn't

a. case in mésalliance of. famous wielders who is backing the garment. created a new web page asking people to call and to inform on eastern europeans behaving badly in. was no us was not particular claims do you agree were that europe is really facing a big threat of new and out. are part of europe part of europe of course and a specialist on contraception in a way. to some extent unfortunately we see the race of that certain ideology in the baltic states especially a lot you understand you've been there recently well i wanted to ask you is it true that there are those people there now in the us you develop in

a sense veterans that they have government supports in latvia is that true is that a case what's the status well actually i don't know exactly if they have any financial support from the from the government but they sure have her moral support and i bought a range of calendar os books and other things about of often solutions both italian and very good. in the bookstores. and when i asked them to give miss some maybe same propaganda material some of the lead fans wouldn't understand it was fight and fight in the red army but they set no no the prop of the soviet propaganda is prohibited to know it are very right so propaganda spread because they even wanted to prohibit the the decorations the war decorations because they are the real stars are your thoughts you know that would you agree with vladimir that these people the vast and there says some

veterans in the in your country that they have public support is that true. yes of course first of all about material support almost all all of these people have this status of repressed politically repressed persons persons repressed by criminals to the dream since being in assist legion they have been punished after. the second world war and resist state as they receive a lot of subsidies from the state a lot of law and says vile zeus' who were in soviet army have no state support no any. law and says and. just all claims to grant those being in the hitler coalitions up some states support was. subsidy submitted by

opposition in parliament have been constantly refused in what concerns moral support we know that just disease. this year sixteen so from march was arranged by a lot of efforts undertaken by the foreign affairs ministry of flat where all investigators situated in lead to their very invited to hear the position of the foreign ministry. yes. explanation was a little bit balance is they told these people very crude it forcibly said they are secular prizes of nasi but. a letter in the anti-fascist to me to have placed. a subscription to the memories of mas it is g.m. in the morning in front of the monument. of liberty and let

the those who are ranged as the latest march of crysis. members and their supporters they made all efforts to. do all they cough and say is slower going to from from a monument a little or a you are a historian here's some people are telling us today that vote fitness says they are harmless vets that symbolize independence of light well can you tell us what was the role of this valve in this legion during the next year if you patient of eastern europe. i need actually much time to talk. to tell the world actually of the whole history of allowed to between ninety and thirty nine larkin and the baltic states between one hundred thirty nine and one thousand say fifty's is a huge me for now well first of all on these so-called.

how do i say that in english well and to really vulture you all want to root divisions over their survival and assess had never been voluntary. so they were drafted that they were drafted the german commanders. made a decision about this as units after stalingrad when they saw i think today they need they're having problems have problems with and they need new human meat you know to push the holes on the eastern front so first they called this a wall of true legions and by they got only approximately five hundred people or so in libya obviously they needed dozens of thousands and after that they stopped calling her two and three and they called to assess the often means what in german

something like. not old me people like peoples like people who populate this difference between regular s.s. regiments and like any other peoples people who are going to say what i believe in the people's mindset is you know they've been not cold voluntary even in their fascist chamois. so people the draft. they had no choice and they had to fire and use the red army and even then they couldn't draft anybody here because you live here in your people hide it in the forests and real peace forest brothers which appeared to live here in europe the first it was partisans against germans and only then part of them against soviet lately so so so what you're saying is that. it wasn't it wasn't just

a voluntary groups fighting against the russian president ronald not want to live like regular may see trip to the circus so to do yours or you want me do you agree is a. first of all i am not sure on this number five hundred yeah because i know that just two it keeps of chutes months of police voluntary police unions who who are but this is a did and just not let this be that bad as it is acute as in killing of jews when those that seventy thousand led them jews out of the number of a lot of a killed in letter and is the same the same number of people of jews who were brought here from poland lithuania. first actions in the belarusian border and

a lot of belarusian villages there liquidated and a man killed above a vile women these children were brought to lead to those cells bills concentration camp and. children some of them served also. for pays and for their pays and school arts you know and disease people the. is a big is a big. unfortunate that we cannot separate who is who who is this person who march on who is watching liberty man a man. he is guilty because you know there are no witan assists with all venus's have does appear to what did this man before being critical being official early. how to say fixed s.s.

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a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report on our you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom parker parker is a big picture. welcome back to spotlight on malibu knob and just a reminder that letterman didn't skew russian historian politicians here in our studio and. she doesn't know that joining us from riga latina well we started talking about we talked about often assess about it about the neo nazis and that we're seeing that we're seeing in riga in latvia well now let's talk about the

attitude of the of the government and of the society to the entirely fascist movement we reasonably see seen clashes with police in the streets. police against the anti-fascist what's the attitude towards anti-fascist how they considered to be like patriotic. you see who are. really do not have z's direct command produced by a lead and security services by a lead police we recently have read what the security services are eaten and just come see those support dissipate the fascist movements as a threat to national security saying the same or happens in led. of course all activities of anti. fascist.

moments watched and the proof is that after we have invited to our conference to be held on sixteenth of march this year some member. from from the united states. and congressman from united states of america these people have received a letter from an ambassador asking him asking them not to come. also the difference of is there to to visit respect to zeus who brought flowers to the liberty mourning meant on the very day of sixteenth of may which. i was prohibited to insist on staying of our slogan the sacred prices of nazism during the second ceremony and more of our was forced out

by a police officer. the very same police did not prohibit those who organize a stupid or wear this slogan the symbol of often the says now i brought that claim to the police and they have no no not yet announcer while as a him this is a claim from one of the members of parliament who was marching because this very day too. all that alongside this legend has is that jazz that proved to. be investigated of love to do you have an exclusion of what you do european structures even the european human rights institution phones why are why are the one having a sort of a blind eye when when seeing what's happening what's happening in the in the baltic republics where we would know announces well actually that's not a blind eye. see it and they realise it's a very much your technology and they don't seem to be worried about the usual

political correctness of double standards but it will boomerang and yap it's part of europe it's part of nato nobody is thinking about the future they're going on about today that maybe these guys are no the good guys but there is we are and that's the usual practice unfortunately that they're ready to talk about. and to democracy somewhere in the northern africa or in iraq or anywhere else but they just don't notice their twenty percent of the latin population. is leaving the normal citizens towards normal passports and so on and so forth it's like in the i don't know in the upper teeth you know you're right actually it's actually the same as to their members of the council of europe they're members of the nato and so on and so forth so this is this is politics it's not evil but we

should admit that russia also isn't immune to to to neo nazis tendencies we can see that for example in the behavior football fans who were well you should have made that is the true one. unfortunately you know. more time passes after the world war two of the great patriotic war who are we. to forget the term of the forget world sufferance a lot of people forget the price that we paid for liberation of the world to only see well some miffs and some comics cartoons how it looks like and you know the hugo boss german military uniform you're. looks by the way his uniform has been inserted or assessed especially in looks very fit you know and we

don't think what was behind it. well i want to once again to talk about breivik we started talking about him in the beginning of the show well actually it was reported that asked to brevik so rest that he was part of a large nearly we're not seen network covering quite a few european countries is it is this neo nazi organization that breivik allegedly belong still is it who are posing some threat to european democracy to to to to the existence of a democracy in countries like yours what would you say. yes of course and it actually is the european parliament this itself friends of politicians in the. parliaments of member states are divided just by izzy's line not so much by being cleft or tried to being gorean to by economical approach is but just to those they

were brought of all people are equal is that is first sentence from the declaration the universal declaration of human rights or up people can be divided by some categories and unfortunately this is second to broad has more and more support support visit in the parliaments and also busy in zero pm parliament i was elected twice in two thousand and four and two thousand and nine and the second composition of the parliament has more extreme right wingers and we have a lot of discussions but i am afraid that the left wing politicians are still not so much of the year of what is happening characteristic is the german society who has maybe more to say inside to move our abilities to go. but even xavier surprised of existence

of this bridge they didn't know that these killings of particular muslims where chain of actions of one. special network network in what concerns lead to restoring in the training. in our country is this. movement and rising support of. politicians by the government and government all parties. is a long lasting process and. we tried to get a very nice i want also to mention van faked you pose the question why there is no resistance it is in mayberry russians. eastern european countries as it is a very very dangerous fact is this new approach in estimating

those who fight it during exist sank and world war trying to put on the same level hitler and stalin. just make a consequence of such an approach because people in russia have different estimates of what concerned stalingrad knows it's made a lot of good things and then youngsters are asking so maybe gives hitler is not so bad as well so so this new approach to to read early how to say a reconstruction of second history of second world war you're trying to put on the same side stalin and hitler communism and nazism just lead to this. last think of immunity against their noses very little you are an author of the number of books concerning you myths about russia will built you think that maybe

one of the reasons that we are having and we russia having problems fighting nuances is the reluctance of modern russia to to admit the crimes of communism the crimes of sternness which just means you do think this may be because while you've been member of parliament for years why is russia so reluctant to to to to do that . i don't think that russia blocked and. told me to actually read the crimes of. communism on stalin and i actually were somewhere in the middle of the two different points across different points as that you're on the set that hitler and stalin are the same it's not true it's. a very dangerous. idea. it's actually a vitamin heater. the second point is that. and

well they're both good. and it's a huge source for now in our system and on our studies and very all the times more than between bruce actually two points i think that our history needs just. an honest point of view that's all that's all the should meet that's if we're talking about stalin that he committed a huge number of our crimes still he's not future thank you thank you very much let me just remind you that my guests were lied to that is key here in the studio and i was done not member of the european parliament joining us from riga latvia and this is for now for all of us in the spotlight will be back with more than a comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on our team and take care.

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