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on the back you're watching r t here's a look at the headlines changes at the top of russia's law report in outlines his new presidential policy is wildly trying to be out of could soon be applying his modernization strategies as prime minister protest marches continue with some classes at arrest me. standing up to germany's euro dominance and ending foreign wars started by his predecessor france's newly elected socialist leader is facing tough pressure to leave the sarkozy behind. and it's a vote for stability for manny in syria after people made their choice in the
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country's first multi-party elections in half a century but it was boycotted by the opposition which helped protest instead. now on the eve of victory day on may the ninth when asked whether there's still a neo nazi threat spotlight is next here on our. oh. hello again or welcome to spotlight the into the show on our t.v. i'm al gore novel today we're talking about world war two. the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind took over sixty million lives one of the third reich finally
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collapsed and became evident the past as it should always be considered a lawful and a horrible place but sixty seven years later we see it live without sin flourishing in some countries where s.s. metro's or murder like here so how can there be is seven decades and not to forget the absolute will discuss it with the russian historian lives in the media is here in my studio and joining us from riga latvia politician thirty on a stellar. sixty seven years have passed since nazis were defeated by the allied forces those responsible for a long time atrocities were trying to nuremberg however the case of the nazi ideology has never been completely closed at least that's the impression i get when you see pictures of that dryness on the wall from the sas and public gatherings a million of them to state this news event in riga was attended by about fifteen
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hundred the disciplines and the latin president spoke in support of the procession saying the latin waffen s.s. veterans were not criminals and deserved respect the view was not shared though by people who took to the streets of brega to protest the nazi veterans march. despite general condemnation the world is really seeing a rise in their own arsenals and many believe it to be part of the reason you must use massacre in norway when anders bravery seven people killed was the worst tragedy to you know we since world war. i love with you hello to each other thank you very much for joining us here will first of all i want to ask you about the and here's brevik case that's for you he's facing trial for murdering seventy seven people in norway do you go through you've learned every new thirty or see it as a as a as part of a neo nazi threat immersion in europe or is it an isolated case of of our
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fellow took. it is not an isolated case have. a number of cases maybe not so harmful but also based on the same logic on the logic of fair trade and there isn't player b. in parliament itself has passed tourism lucian survive concern in congress and this trend to ride to being. how to say it will tell a tarion. kind of decision making and the emergence of extreme right wing party in the congress and there isn't a. case in mésalliance of a famous wielders who is backing the garment. created a new web page asking people to call and to inform on eastern
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europeans behaving badly in our land. particular games do you agree with that europe is really facing a big threat of new and out. are part of europe part of europe of course and a specialist on contraception in a way. to some extent unfortunately we see the race of. certain ideology in the baltic states especially what i don't. understand you've been there recently well i wanted to ask you is it true that there are those people there now in the us you develop in a sense veterans that they have government supports in latvia is that true is that a case what's the status well actually i don't know exactly if they have any financial support from the from the government but they sure have her moral support
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and i bought a range of calendar os books and other things about of often assassinations both her talent and very good. in the bookstores. and when i asked them to give miss some maybe same propaganda materials and both of the lead wouldn't understand it was fight and fight in the red army but they said no no the prop of the soviet propaganda is probably be didn't know it already right and so propaganda spread there he even wanted to prohibit the the decorations the war decorations because they are the real stars are your thoughts you know that would you agree with lead them or that these people the vast and there are certain veterans in there in your country that they have public support is that true. yes of course first of all about material support almost
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all of these people have this status of repressed politically repressed persons persons repressed by criminals to the dream scenes being in assist legion they have been punished after. the second world war and resist ages they receive a lot of subsidies from the state a lot of law and says vile zeus' who in soviet army have no state support no any. law insists and. just all claims to grant those being in the hitler coalitions up some states support was. subsidies submitted by opposition in parliament have been constantly refused in what concerns moral support we know that just disease. sixteen so from march
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was arranged by a lot of efforts undertaken by the foreign affairs ministry of flat where all investors situated in lead to very very invited to hear the position of the foreign ministry. yes. explanation was a little bit balance is it told these people are very crude it forcibly said they are secular prizes of nasi but devised. a letter in the anti-fascist to me to have placed. a subscription to the memories of mas it is g.m. in the morning in front of the monument. of liberty and let the those who are ranged is the latest march of her says legion.
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members and their supporters they made all efforts to. take off as a is slow again from monument who were you are a historian here's some people are telling us today that divisiveness says they are harmless events that symbolize independence of light yeah well can you tell us what was the role of this valve in this legion during the next if you patient of eastern europe. i need actually much time to talk. to tell of our thirty actually of the whole history of allowed between nine to thirty nine larkin and the baltic states between one hundred thirty nine and one thousand say fifty's he's a huge me now well first of all on these so-called. hold i say that in english well and to really violent true you will want to divisions. assess had never been voluntary. so they
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were drafted that they were drafted the german commanders. made a decision about this as units after stalingrad when they saw the tapes there they need they're having problems have problems with and the need new human meat you know to push the holes on the eastern front so first they called this a wall of true legions and by they got only approximately five hundred people. you know need to be there obviously they needed dozens of thousands and after that they stopped a call of it all in three and they called to often assess what if it means what in german something like. not ordinary people like peoples like people like populists the difference between regular s.s.
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regiments and like people's people who are some s.s. i believe. people's mindset is you know they've been not called voluntary even in their fascist chamois. so the people the draft. they had no choice and they had to find or use the red army and even then they couldn't draft anybody in your because you're losing your people hide it in the forests and real these forest brothers which appeared to live here in europe the first it was partisans against germans and only then part of them against soviet lately. so what you're saying is that. it wasn't it wasn't just a voluntary groups fighting against the russian presence not one true they were like regular. do you agree.
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first of all i am not sure on this number five hundred yeah because i know that just to know that it keeps of shoots months of police voluntary police unions who are who are but this is a bit and just not at this basis but as it is acute as in the killing of jews when those that seventy thousand lead than jews out of the number of a lot of a killed in letter and is the same the same number of people of jews who were brought here from poland lithuania. first actions in a lead in the belarusian border and a lot of belarusian villages there liquidated and a man killed by a vial of women these children were brought to lead to those cells bill's
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concentration camp and. children some of them served also. for plays and for their call outs you know and disease people the. is a big is a big. unfortunate that we cannot separate who is who who is this person who marched on who is watching liberty a man a man. he is guilty because you know there are no of it messes with all businesses have does appear to what did this man before being critical being official early. how to say fixed assess. that member. looked at interest from the gun lobby of what it will be a few here in our moscow studio spotlight will be back in less than a minute after we take
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and. he's done no joining us from. well we started talking about we talked about love often assess about it about the neo nazi isn't that weird. seeing that we're seeing in riga in latvia well now let's talk about the attitude of the of the government and of the society to the anti-fascist movement we recently see seem clashes with police in the streets. police against the anti-fascist what's the attitude towards anti-fascist are they considered to be like patriotic. you see of course. we do not have z's direct command produced by a lead and security services by a lead police we recently have read what they stored in security services
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and just come see. but these. fascist movements as a threat to national security seems a similar happens in led. of course all activities of anti. fascist. moments i watched and the proof is that after we have invited to our conference to be held on sixteenth of march this year. members. from from united states. congressman from united states of america these people have received a letter from an ambassador i ask him asking them not to come. also the difference of is there to to visit respect to zeus who brought flowers to the liberty to mourn and meant on the very day of sixteenth of may which. i was
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prohibited to insist on staying of our slogan the sacred crisis of nazism during the second ceremony and more of our was forced out by a police officer. the very same police did not prohibit those organizers to port or where the slogan is the symbol of far from the system now i brought that claim to the police and have no no not yet announcer while as a hymn this is a claim from one of the members of parliament who was marching because this very day too. all that alongside this legend has is just the proved to. be investigated of love do you have an exclusion why do european structures even the european human rights institution phones why are why are the now having
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a sort of a blind eye when when seeing what's happening what's happening in the in the baltic republics where with the new nazis well actually that's not a blind eye they see it and they realise it's a very much you don't take no action they don't seem to be worried about the usual political practice of double standards so it will boomerang yeah it's part of europe it's part of nato nobody is thinking about the future they're not going on about today that maybe these guys are no the good guys but there is one that's the usual practice unfortunately that they're ready to talk about. and to democracy somewhere in the northern africa or in iraq or anywhere else but they just don't notice their twenty percent of the latin population. is leaving the normal citizens towards normal passports who are going to so on and
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so forth it's like in the i don't know in the upper teeth you know you're right actually it's actually the same as to their members of the council of europe their member so the nato and so on and so forth so this is this is politics looking a bit we should admit that russia also isn't immune to to to neo nazis tendencies we can see that for example in the behavior of football fans who are well you shouldn't be that is the true one. fortunately you know. more time passes after the world war two on the great patriotic war who are we. forget the terror of the forget well the sufferance of our people forget the price that we paid for liberation of the world to only see well some miffs and some comics cartoons how it looks like and you know the hugo boss
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german military uniform you're. looking by the way his uniform has been especially looks very fit you know and we don't think what was behind it. well i want to once again to talk about breivik we started talking about him in the beginning of the show well actually it was reported that are to brevig so rest that he was part of a large nearly we're not seen network covering quite a few european countries is it is this neo nazi organization that breivik allegedly belong still is it who are posing some threat to european democracy to to to to the existence of a democracy in countries like yours what would you say. yes of course and. actually is the european parliament this itself friends of politicians in the.
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parliaments of member states are divided just by izzy's line not so much by being left or right being gorean did by economical approach is but just to those they were brought of all people are equal is that is the first sentence from the declaration the universal declaration of human rights or people can be divided by some categories and unfortunately this is second to broad has more and more support support to visit in the parliaments and also visit in zero pm parliament i was elected twice in two thousand and four and two thousand and nine and the second the composition of the parliament has more extreme right wingers and we have a lot of discussions but i am afraid that the left wing politicians are still
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not so much of the year of what is happening characteristic is a german society who has maybe more to say inside to move our abilities to go. but even xavier surprised of existence of this bridge they didn't know that these killings particular muslims where a chain of actions of one. special network network in what concerns us led to restoring in the train and. even in our country is this. movement and arising support of. politicians by the government and government the parties. is a long lasting process and it's the tried to get
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a very nice i want also to mention van fake do you pose the question of why there is no resistance of his in maybe russia to some eastern european countries is a very very dangerous fact is this new approach in estimating those who fired it during exist sanctioned world war trying to put on the same level hitler and stalin. just make a consequence of such an approach because people in russia have different different estimates of what what concerns stalingrad knows it's made a lot of good things and then youngsters are asking so maybe good hitter is not so bad as well so so this new approach to to read early how to say a reconstruction of second history of second world war you're trying to build on the same side stalin and hitler communism and nazism just lead to this.
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last think of immunity against their noses very little you are an author of the number of books concerning myths about russian will built you think that maybe one of the reasons that we are having and we russia having problems fighting the nazis is the reluctance of modern russia to to admit the crimes of communism the crimes of stanley which. i do think this may be because while you've been member of parliament for use what is russia still reluctant to to to to do that. i don't think that russia is so reluctant to admit actually the crimes of. communism stalin actually were somewhere in the middle of the two different points across different pointers that you and i sat and that hitler and stalin are the
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same it's not true it's. a very dangerous. idea. it's actually a vitamin he took and the second point is that. and well they're both good. and it's a huge source for now in our system and from there i was telling you some underwear all the times more than between this actually two points i think that our history needs and just. an honest point of view that's all that's all the should meet that you were talking about stalin that he committed the huge number of who are crimes but still he is not future thank you thank you very much for letting me just remind you that my guests were allowed in that inskeep here in the. studio and not a member of the european parliament joining us from riga latvia and this is for now
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