which helped protest instead. now on the eve of victory day on may the ninth we ask whether there's still a threat spotlight is next here on our team. oh . how again i welcome to spotlight the into the show on our t.v. i'm al bernardo today we're talking about world war two. the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind took over sixty million lives one of the third reich finally collapsed and became evident the past as it should always be considered a lawful and horrible place but sixty seven years later we see if little an absent

father should in some countries where s.s. metro's or nerd like you so how can it be is seven decades and not to forget the astute will discuss it with a russian historian bloody murder me deals here in my studio and joining us from riga latvia politician that's here let stella. sixty seven years have passed since nazis were defeated by the allied forces those responsible for more time atrocities were trying to nuremberg however the case of the nazi ideology has never been completely closed at least that's the impression that you get when you see pictures of that transition the waffen the sas at public gatherings held a meal in the baltic states this news event in riga was attended by about fifteen hundred the disciplines and the latin president spoke in support of the procession saying the latin and waffen s.s.

veterans were not criminals and deserved respect the view was not shared though by people to the streets of brega to protest the nazi veterans march. this by general condemnation the world is really seeing a rise in their announcers and many believe it to be part of the reason the last two years massacre in norway when anders braving something just seven people killed was the worst tragedy to you know really since world war two. how would you hello to china thank you very much for joining us here well first of all i'd like to ask you about the and there's brevik case there's failure he's facing trial for murdering seventy seven people in norway do you go through you've led a renewed tatiana see it as a as a as part of a neo nazi threat that's immersion in europe or is it an isolated case of of our falak. it is not an isolated case we have watched

a number of cases maybe not so harmful but also based on the same logic on the logic of it and i recently european parliament itself has passed tourism lucian a survivor concerning congress and this trend to ride to being. how to say it will tell it there in. the kind of decision making and the emergence of extreme right wing party in the congress and there isn't a. case in mésalliance where famous real those who is breaking the garment has. created a new web page asking could be bold to call and to inform on eastern europeans behaving badly in. its was no un was not

particularly do you agree were that europe is really facing a big threat of new nazis. are part of europe part of europe of course and specialise of contraception in a way. to some extent unfortunately we see race or. not certain ideology in the baltic states especially what you understand you've been there recently well i wanted to ask you is it true that the those people there know in the us you devolve in your first veterans that they have government supported lot for you is the truth is very curious what's the status of the actual i don't know exactly you have any financial support from the government but they sure have a moral support who. are bought range. of calendar os

books and other things about half and solutions both for talent and very good. in the bookstores. and when i asked them to give me some maybe same propaganda materials. of the lead and the story it was fight and fight in the red army and they said no no the prop of the soviet propaganda is prohibited in our economy right. there he even wanted to prohibit the the decorations the war decorations because they are the real stars are your thoughts you know that would you agree with vladimir that these people the vast and there said some veterans in the in your country that they have public support is that true. yes of course first of all about material support almost all all of these people have this status of repressed politically repressed

persons persons repressed by criminals to dream since being in assist legion they have been punished after. world war and resist ages they receive a lot of subsidies from the state a lot of law and says vile zeus' who in soviet army have no state support no any. law and says and. just all claims to grant those being in the hitler coalitions up some states support was. subsidies submitted by opposition in parliament have been constantly refused. in what concerns moral support we know that just disease. sixteen so from march was arranged by

a lot of effort on the taken by the foreign affairs ministry of flat where all investors situated in lead to very very invited to hear the position of the foreign ministry. yes. explanation was a little bit balance is they told these people very crude it forcibly said they are secular four hours a sofa but devised. a letter in the meeting have placed a. subscription to the memories of mas it is g.m. in the morning in front of the monument. of liberty and let. those who are ranged as the latest march of her says legion. members and their supporters they made all efforts to. do all they cough as

a as slogan the from from men who were a you are a historian here's some people are telling us today that of rough in a sense they are harmless events that symbolize independence of latvia well can you tell us what was the role of this valve in this legion during the night to keep asian of eastern europe. i need action of much time to talk. to tell the world actually the whole history of allowed to between nine to thirty nine locked in on the baltic states between nineteen thirty nine and one thousand say fifty's is a huge me for now well first of all on these so-called. how do i say that in english well into real voluntary you all want to division so for their survival and service had never been voluntary. so they were drafted that they were drafted the german commanders. made

a decision about this as units after stalingrad when they saw the effects there they need they're having problems have problems and the need new human meat you know to push the holes on the eastern front so first they called this a wall of true legions and by they got only approximately five hundred people. to learn to be there obviously they needed dozens of thousands and after that they stopped a call of it all in three and they call to. service vote for it means what the germans something like. not ordinary people's like people. like people like populous the difference between regular s.s. regiments and like people's people who are going to says what i believe in the

people's mindset is you know they've been not cold voluntary even in their fascist germany. so people the draft. they had no choice and they had to fire and use the red army and even though they couldn't draft anybody in your because you're losing your people hide it in the force and real this forest brought us which it beautiful if you're in your. first it was partisans against germans only then part of them against over eighty years so so so what you're saying is that. it wasn't it wasn't just a voluntary groups fighting against the russian presence not volunteering they were like regular made three trips to the circus so to do years ago you want me do you agree is a. first of all i am not sure on this number five hundred yeah because i know

that just too it keeps of shoots months of police voluntary police unions who are who are but this is a did and just not at this basis but as it is acute as in killing of jews when those that seventy thousand lead than jews out of the number of eighty thousand killed in letter and is the same the same number of people of jews who were brought here from poland lithuania. first as there were actions in. belarusian border and a lot of belarusian villages there liquidated and a man killed by a vile women these children were brought to lead to the south spiels concentration camp and zenza children some of them served also. for

plays and for their school acts you know and disease people the. is a big is a big. unfortunate that we cannot separate who is who who is this person who marched on who is watching liberty man a man. he is guilty because you know there are no video messages with all venus's have does appear to what did this man before being critical being official early. how to say fixed s.s. legion. member. the looked out into a strongly gun lobby of we're doing business here in our moscow studio spotlight will be back in less than a minute after we take a short break so stay with us don't go.

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video on demand. costs and all recess feeds now in the palm of your. question on the dot com. secret laboratory to mccurdy was able to build a most sophisticated robot which fortunately doesn't give a darn about anything tim's mission to teach creation why it should care about humans in the world this is why you should care only dot com. welcome back to spotlight on malibu knob and just to remind you that letterman did skid russian historian politicians here in our studio and. don't know joining us from. well we started talking about we talked about love often assess about it

about the neo nazi isn't that weird. seeing that we're seeing in riga in latvia well now let's talk about the attitude of the of the government and of the society to the anti-fascist movement we recently see seen clashes with police in the streets. police against the anti-fascist what's the attitude towards anti-fascist are they considered to be like patriotic. you see poor so. really do not have z's direct command produced by a lead and security services by led police we recently have read what they saw in security services and just come see the. disappeared in a fascist movement as

a threat to national security saying the same or happens in led. of course all activities of. fascist. moments i watched and the proof is that after we have invited to our conference to be held on sixteenth of march this year some member. from from the united states. and congressman from united states of america these people have received a letter from an ambassador asking him asking them not to come. also the difference of is there to to visit respect to zeus who brought flowers to the liberty mourning meant on the very day of sixteenth of may which. i was prohibited to insist on staying of our slogan the sacred crisis of

nazism during the second ceremony and more of our was forced out by a police officer. the very same police did not prohibit those who organize a stupid over this slogan the symbol of faffing the system now i brought that claim to do the police and have no no not yet announcer while. they claim from one of the members of parliament who was marching because this very day too. all that alongside this legend has is that jazz that proved to. be investigated of love to do you have an exclusion why do european structures even the european human rights institution phones why are why are the having a sort of a blind eye when when seeing what's happening what's happening in the in the baltic republics where we would live in the announces well actually that's not

a blind eye they see it and they realise it's a very much you don't take no action they don't seem to be worried about the usual political practice of double standards that it will goober and yet it's part of europe it's part of nature you know what is thinking about the future than you can on about today that maybe these guys are no the good guys but there is we are and that's the usual practice unfortunately that they're ready to talk about. and to democracy somewhere in the northern africa or in iraq or anywhere else but they just don't notice their twenty percent of the letter on population or. is leaving the normal citizens towards normal passports and so on and so forth it's like in the i don't know in the upper teeth you know you're right actually it's actually the same and says to them members of the council of europe they're

members of the nato and so on and so forth so this is this is politics looking a bit we should admit that russia also isn't immune to two to neo nazis tendencies we can see that for example in the behavior football fans who were well you should have made that is not a true one unfortunately you know. more time passes after the world war two on the great patriotic war are we. to forget the term of before get well the sufferance of our people or forget the price that we paid for liberation of the world to only see well some miffs and some comics cartoons how it looks like and you know the hugo boss german military uniform you're. looks by the way his uniform has been especially

looks very fit. and very daunting what was behind it. well i want to once again to talk about breivik we started talking about him in the beginning of the show well actually it was reported that asked to brevig so rest that he was part of a large neil will not see network covering quite a few european countries is it is this new announce the organization that breivik allegedly belong still is a poor posing some threat to european democracy to to to to the existence of a democracy and been in countries like yours what would you say. yes of course and . actually is the european parliament this itself friends of politicians in the parliaments of member states are divided just by izzy's line not so much by being

cleft or ride to being gorean to the by economical approach is but just to those they were brought of all people are equal is that is the first sentence from the declaration the universal declaration of human rights or people can be divided by some categories and unfortunately this is second to broad has more and more support support visit in the parliament and also busy in zero pm parliament i was elected twice in two thousand and four and two thousand and nine and the second composition of the parliament has more extreme right wingers and we have a lot of discussions but i am afraid that the left wing politicians are still not so much of the year of what is happening characteristic is a german society who has maybe more to say inside to move our

abilities to go mail announcing but even xavier surprised of existence of this bridge they didn't know that these killings particular muslims where a chain of actions of one. special network network in what concerns us led to restoring in the training. in our countries this. movement and rising support of. politicians by the government and governmental parties. is a long lasting process and. we tried to get a very nice i want also to mention van fake so you pose the question why there is no resistance of his in mayberry russian. eastern european countries is

a very very dangerous fact is this new approach in estimating and those who fight it during exist sank and world war trying to put on the same level hitler and stalin. just make a consequence of such an approach because people in russia have different different estimates of what what concerns stalingrad knows it's made a lot of good sense and then youngsters are asking so maybe gives hitler is not so bad as well so so this new approach to to read early how to say a reconstruction of second history of second world war you're trying to put on the same side stalin and hitler communism and nazism just lead to this. last thing of immunity against their noses very little you are an author of the

number of books concerning myths about russian will belong to think that maybe one of the reasons that we are having and we russia having problems fighting new nazis is the reluctance of modern russia to to admit the crimes of communism the crimes of stanley which are just mentioned do you think this may be because while you've been member of parliament for years why is russia so reluctant to to to to do that . i don't think that russia blocked and. told me to action of the crimes of. communism on stalin and i'm actually. in the middle of the two different points across different points as that you're on the set and that hitler and stalin are the same it's not true it's. very dangerous. it's actually

a vitamin heater. the second point is that. and wealth they're both good. and it's a huge source for now in our system and on our studies some and very all the times more in between there's actually two points i think that our history needs and just . an honest point of view that's all that's all the should me to that's if we're talking about stalin that he committed the huge number of our crimes still he's not future thank you thank you very much let me just remind everybody guests were allowed to keep here in the moscow studio entertainers does not member of the european parliament joining us from riga latvia and this is for now for all of us in the spotlight will be back with more than a comment on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on our team and

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