however. dmitri medvedev is very good in his prime minister by russia under your phone calls but now they want the all access pass to your electronic communications well tell you how big brother is bullying internet companies and the surveillance programs. menu. and the times they are changing in michael moore's vocals give occupy wall street a big boost and now these protesters are producing an album we'll speak with an artist and music exact who are advocating to change their song twenty three percent of all children the children are one hundred percent the future what kind of future

how we relate talking about. well with statistics like that it's hard to ignore the ugly truth america's youth is falling into the growing wealth gap one in five now considered poor in the us really stay on top and so many are struggling to keep their heads above water. it's tuesday may eighth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. . oh wiretapping the internet that's the f.b.i.'s new mission traditionally they've been able to get a warrant to tap into telephones but today more people are communicating through the internet by e-mail skype social media and instant messaging and this poses a challenge for the f.b.i. they're finding it harder to wiretap websites calling it

a going dark problem and now they're taking action to change this an article on c.n.n. at reveals the f.b.i.'s push to force internet giants like google facebook and yahoo to alter their code to ensure that law enforcement can easily wiretap the websites the f.b.i. has planned would have many one thousand nine hundred four law that applies to wiretapping phones they want to expand that power to web companies so is this another attack on your online freedoms or is it necessary to ensure national security david seaman journalist and host of the d.l. show joins us now to dig deeper into this welcome david so it should people be concerned about this. it's great to be back on liz people should be concerned i want to choose my words very carefully here the legislation we've seen over the past few months including sis and now the requests to have backdoor access to people's facebook activity we're talking about american citizens not people in afghanistan in a cave they aren't the ones sending out friend requests and talking on facebook

we're talking about you and me the government wants intimate intimate access to what we're doing online and through sis but they would know if the fourth amendment . like i said i want to be careful of what i say here but i do believe if jefferson and washington were alive today they would be calling for regime change this is absolutely ludicrous and i'm not some peacenik or hippie you know i'm aware that there are some people out there who want to cause the united states of america harm and i'm all for spying on those people read and listen to every single word they say and go get them you know turn their little neck of the woods into a parking lot for all i care so i'm not opposed to spying on our enemies i'm opposed to spying on hundreds of thousands perhaps even millions of americans who have committed no crime and are just trying to use the internet to communicate now traditionally david at the f.b.i. they have had the ability to wire tap phones but now more people are communicating

other ways so it doesn't make sense that they would be able to wiretap these newer forms of communication. well is it absolutely makes sense that they would want to update some of this language because as you pointed out people are not using phones predominately anymore they use the internet to communicate and we use text messages and that sort of thing the problem here is i see all these things now is connected and i'm not a conspiracy theorist i'm not some weirdo my background is in personal finance and financial journalism but it's hard to disregard what is happening over the past few months good sopa which is really a career killer to push something that radical and ludicrous that could kill the career of any politician who supported it and then they turn around and they push sis but which is even worse and it's backed by these extremely powerful tech companies affiliated with the pentagon tech companies that most people don't even know about and never heard of these are not well known companies but they have tremendous lobbying power and i think there's this this weird gray area where

they're collecting this information and it's clearly not related to terrorism to investigations how many people in the u.s. are actively plotting terrorist attacks certainly not hundreds of thousands and yet hundreds of thousands of national security letters are n.s.l.s have been issued over the past few years according to some some experts on this issue so what's going to happen when they have backdoor access to facebook and twitter and google plus could be tens of millions of people who could have their information compromised in a number of people in the government would have access to your most intimate communications dirty messages you send to your girlfriend health conditions that you search for on google to find out about things like that but what they need a warrant david an architect to get this information or are to spy on people. under six but they would not need a warrant if cispa passes that already passed the house now it's headed to a senate vote and obama's administration is threaten to veto it but they did the same thing with the n.d.a. and then he went ahead and signed it anyway. if that becomes law then it changes

the game then the f.b.i. has backdoor access and they can go in without a warrant as it stands you know if they want to monitor somebody's facebook activity and they have a legitimate warrant i'm all for that i'm aware that there is crime out there there are bad guys and we should keep an eye on them but i'm opposed to spying on millions of americans and i feel if the government is already doing these things and is now looking for the legal justification to basically cover themselves why do i think they're doing these things because they're building a two billion dollars data center and wired magazine has reported on this you guys have reported on it two billion dollars data center in the utah desert to analyze log and go through our communications you and me american citizens not people in afghanistan so it sounds like you're worried that at the at the granted this power there is this capacity to abuse that. absolutely worried the problem i mean governments throughout history have always tried to collect more and more power that's really just the nature of things and you even accept

a certain level of corruption right because that's what governments do is they gain more power and more resources over time the problem is for the first time in human history we actually have technology at a level and this is just over the past few years we have technology at a level where it's cheap enough and easy enough for governments to actually monitor and analyze everything we do online and offline with close close cameras it's really weird it's like we're now in this state where and former n.s.a. officials have said this we're like this close to being in a totalitarian state we have the technology they're passing the legislation to make it possible and the thing that scares me most is that when you turn on most news networks you turn on c.n.n. or m s n b c they don't talk about this just the other day the co-founder of read it was on c.n.n. and he mentions this but he said he doesn't plan to invest in facebook because of their pros policy and the anchor was just like a deer in headlights right she didn't want to address it none of the other people

on the panel wanted to address it and so they just move on and it's the same thing when ron paul is talking in there covering one of his campaign speeches he talks about cispa he talks about and he talks about warrantless wiretapping of american citizens and then they just cut away and they're like that was ron paul everyone and they don't actually put these things into context and these are huge issues so that's what scares me i know something's going on because it's not being covered in the news well we hear it i have spent a good amount of time covering says. and some of these these as she is david that this plan would require big company it's google and facebook for facebook for example to alter their code so the f.b.i. can wiretap their sites do you think the big companies will be on board with us. i think they will i wish that the c.e.o.'s and executives of these companies were patriotic but i think at the end of the day they just care about the bottom line and particularly with cispa and with this backdoor access also if the government says to them look you're safe give us this information and you get litigation unity

nobody can come after you so we're not going to come after you we're not going to overregulate you or drive you out of business these companies just go along with it they don't care about you in the they don't care about our privacy they care about their shareholders and i'm a capitalist so don't have a problem with that in theory but at the same time i'm also an american citizen and i don't want to see is turned into a full blown police state which is where we're that's where we're headed people need to talk about this the other day in the news. so one of the audience asked mitt romney if he thought that obama had committed treason and then the mainstream media sort of jumped on it and they were just basically mocking this woman without actually bringing into context the fact that obama has signed some treasonous things into law all over the past few months and without bringing into context the fact the government is rapidly trying to look at our online communications and the specter access like i said in principle it's fine but in practice i believe it will be misused now david i do want to bring up the government's response to this the f.b.i. calls this problem going dark meaning they are no longer able to wiretap suspects

and they say this could pose a problem for people security here is what a representative of the f.b.i. told seen at today say it's quote a growing gap exists between the statutory authority of law enforcement to intercept electronic communications pursuant to court order and our ability our practical ability to intercept those communications the f.b.i. believes that if this gap continues to grow there is a very real risk of the government going dark resulting in an increased risk to national security and public safety so david what is your response to that. i don't think they ever went dark i think when i even send an e-mail to one of your producers it's being stored on a server somewhere at the n.s.a. like on a percent certain of that. so do they want better access for law enforcement reasons yes and is that legitimate sure if you get a court order and it's authorized to go ahead and do it but again where is this

threat coming from if there are hundreds of thousands of potential terrorists here in the u.s. and they're all communicating over facebook let's identify these people and let's kick them out of the country so they're not a threat anymore but i think the problem here is that this is kind of a bogeyman there are only a handful of people who are genuine threat and then a lot of it is just flat out totalitarian spying and we've seen things recently all of my readers not all of them a lot of them seem concerned about this resettlement manual that the army put out and people kept telling me you have to look into this and report on it and i was skeptical but i looked it up i downloaded off off of the public intelligence and there are plans for resettlement camps even in the u.s. it's not as bad as some people are making it out to be but these are weird times will the government misuse their wiretap and their facebook backdoor access to see what our political views are and just see where we stand i believe they very well could and i think that's a risk that we need to address with the new legislation to make sure this is never misused all right they've grabbed

a time but thank you very much for coming on the show today that was david seaman journalist and host the d.l. show. still ahead on r t using a melody to bring harmony to a movement occupy protesters have tried taking over city parks and banks and wall street itself now they're occupying a new frontier the music industry all speak with two people involved in the music and a moment. it's one of american power continues. things on our show. might actually be time for a revolution. and it turns out that a program or drink or starbucks or the surprising him really you.

what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one. is your view with the global machinery see where are we heading state controlled capitalism is called fascism when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. well it's music with a message we're seeing the warm weather reviving the occupy movement and what better way to inspire people to take action then through music a group called music for occupy is releasing their album today here it is it's called occupy this album a compilation of music by for and inspired by the occupy wall street movement and the ninety nine percent they're calling the new genre protest music and it's a compilation of artists you won't hear on the mainstream main stream airwaves one

of the bigger names on the album michael moore take a listen to his song entitled the times they are a change that. is. beyond. you. he is a man of many talents all profits will go toward the occupy wall street movement to talk more about bringing social consciousness into music. welcome to the both of you so tell us tell us jason jason say i'm all over the executive producer and founder of music for occupy tell us more about the music in this album.

sure. the music in the album is much like zuccotti park was the home of occupy wall street where it was founded you know what wall street was all in compas and you'd have you know you'd see him. in conversation with a muslim you'd see a rastafari and singing reggae right next to a sixteen year old folk singer that's playing guitar to them you'd see hip hop artist spitting lyrics in the park you would have the drum circle you have young you have the granny peace which was these wonderful wonderful seniors that were just knitting sweaters and things for everybody in the park so we tried to do is copy that as much as possible into music and bring that voice into music so we have folk music we have heavy metal we have punk we have underground music we have reggae we have we have music that most importantly is going to speak to the baby boomers because that's who's first of all creating the best the worst. quite

a bit and it's still the same people that we need to reinvigorate we have pop music not rap music but we have hip hop music truth in music is being spoken again through all of these genres into what you call protest music i like to call movement music and it's coming back in people's ears are open to it and we're really excited about that now george martin as you are a new york congressional candidate and have pop artists what made you want to become part of this album. well first of all thank you it's good to be here this is a really important project like jason first of all that the album represents the diversity of the people who are associated with the movement and as as a hip hop artist as a person who represents the fifth element of knowledge it's important for me to be able to use my voice my talent to be able to show other people that they don't have to give up their talent their love of their art to be able to do things professionally positive in an especially to be able to use their voices to

articulate the needs of a community who are often overheard so it's important for me to be a part of this project for those reasons but it's about inspiring people to pick up the arts once again it's about saying that you know the cuts to education cuts to arts in the classroom we need to do something about that that there are people who who are part of an intergenerational struggle for equality and fairness and justice and we as artists and as a hip hop artist i find no better place considering that hip hop has been occupying the hood since one nine hundred seventy three and what is the name. that you contributed to the album. the song i contributed to the album was done with my wife shout out to my wife clara guerrero the song is called occupation freedom and it's basically a call for people to start to work for freedom when i check on my job applications i aspire to check when it says occupation freedom we're hoping to inspire the next

generation of freedom workers. i believe we have a clip of at to share with everyone take a lesson. with . the. history. of the old. carriage tell us about the mass said in your lyrics well my wife and i wrote a song that again it was the inspired next generation of freedom workers but what we're really saying is that it's about work we describe an assault different ways that people can occupy we say occupy all airwaves and spaces in between but we also see a lyric that says. occupy our government we are the ones we've been waiting for and

the chorus is especially important because we're singing about freedom and we're declaring that as free. people and as citizens of the great united states of america that we can and we must use our talents and we're declaring that loud and free loud and clear on this song. and this question might be for. music often times can serve as a way to motivate and inspire people what do you ultimately hope to accomplish through this album. you know muscle on the arm is called stand in is called smile stand up and sing that's what i hope to accomplish i hope to accomplish getting into the ears like i mentioned before of the baby boomers especially you know we have jackson browne crosby and nash patti smith list goes on and on of baby boomers type music. we hope to get in there years again to motivate them to get up in and get out of their bankers c.e.o. chairs and say oh wow there is something wrong with this i remember when i was

a kid and i was doing this this this and this in protest and and do whatever i was doing in these juge protests i need to be doing that again because there's something wrong with this world that i'm building for my children it's just not right so i'm hoping that that will get you know music hits the soul it hits the heart it hits deep within every one of us every one of us remembers what their favorite song is or what were a few of their favorite songs and why that's our favorite song that we could describe that we hope to hit home again with the baby boomers and in addition to that it's listen like i said it's every genre so we hope to you know hit home with everyone you know get everyone to smile stand up and say what you're feeling stop sitting on your couch stop watchin mainstream television and get out there if you're frustrated with something that's gone on listen to this music it will invigorate you to get out of your house take a protest sign get out there in say how you feel talk to your neighbor about how

you feel do it in whatever way you want to occupy like george was saying before you could occupy in any way from your computer you could occupy by going around the streets in protest and you could occupy go and have a conversation with somebody about the issues that's occupying to speak up and that's what we're hoping to accomplish and i sign your website they're describing this as protest music do you think that this is a budding genre of music. absolutely i mean we see. four to five hundred submissions from people from people all over the world and we have use it on the album from all over the world so it's not just in this country we think i think that it also is it's doing two things it's connecting the historic connections that we have already to a lot of these hours of music as they were used historically of forms of protest music and what we're saying with this album is that it's cool again to use your talent and use your art once again to reignite that what jason said out there like

it has a better term movement music because that's really what it's about yes you are in a movement there used to be you know you used to have most protest music used to be folk music so now all of a sudden protest music is no longer folk music protest music is simply real music music with a real voice not talking about. whatever boat or i got the diamonds and i got the girls and i got this we're talking about real real issues that affect every single person in this world and that is moving music that is protest music things that speak the truth now i understand that that part of the purchasing that lee is the occupy movement how much of it exactly well go toward finding a movement. a pretty good amount one hundred percent one hundred percent of all proceeds above board of course are going to the movement when i say above board you got to take note that every single artist donated their track nobody's getting any world sees from any of the music that's going to be on this

album and you know from the day to day one of production intil we actually manufactured the cd nobody got paid anything to do any work including producers including engineers editing mastering nobody got paid to do anything on this album that jared loughner was not a motivator for here that. oh not at all no not at all it was absolutely about the opportunity to be a part of such a historic project store a collaboration of so many want to for us and again we wrote the song for the movement and we are about expanding the movement using our talent so there was no money motivation at all all right jason and where exactly is that money going to go how will it be distributed sure. what we're going to be doing is you know first of all we want to people send their ideas basically a grant applications to us from all over the world different occupations all over

the world it has to be well thought out it has to be well planned out the it has to be a viable project as there are a lot of projects out there that oh i have this great idea i want to do it by i'm not sure really how to do but i need money you know we're not going to give to those projects we're going to give the projects that are well thought out well planned and certainly embraces a culture of arts and music that's going to you know create this culture around the movement through arts and is through arts and culture and music and we want projects to reflect that if it's well thought out if it's well planned if it has the force behind it that it needs if there's enough people involved in the to make it happen we want to fund those projects if it speaks to occupy and if it gets the message across that we're trying to get out very quickly we have to celeb at a time laughs where can i how much of the album cost and where people can hold the bat. ok well you can get the direct from now dot com that's me or c

h o w dot com right now for nine dollars in ninety nine cents you can get a four disc set you can also go to amazon dot com their prices might be a little higher and you could find the album there or if you want to digitally download all ninety nine charts and ninety nine artist of the ninety nine percent you can go to amazon dot com you can go to i tunes and purchased that starting may fifteenth right now you can preview digitally. on his on dot com great thank you very much to the both of you for coming on the show today that was jason samel he's the executive producer and founder for music for occupy and george martinez new york congressional candidate and hip hop artist well as occupy wall street to bring attention to rising inequality in the u.s. we want to turn now to the faces most affected by it not just the ones that make up

america today but those who are its future art is on a look at the gap between the rich and poor children of the u.s. . one in four faced with hunger a nightmare for any adult but a reality for american kids twenty three percent of all children living in poverty children are one hundred percent of the future what kind of future we really talking about in the big apple the gap between rich and poor children is all too visible inside this building is one of many organizations in new york working to help struggling mothers it operates twenty four seven almost every minute a family in need is walking in and out of its stores right now seventeen thousand homeless children are bedding down in the municipal shelter system every night that's the highest number ever recorded. one of them is this two year old who is in and out of shelters with her twenty six year old single pregnant mother of three

very hard. just what it's like. food is a daily struggle they give them says the. economy is really messed up in another part of town this father has a seven hundred fifty dollar baby carriage which he calls a rolls royce great suspension it's comfortable baby sleeps right away i mean that mclaren is going to be as older but it's like you know it's bumpy he says kids come at a price you cannot more than two kids in new york that's for sure really like sixpence a mother for maria spends fifty dollars a month on her children's clothes at thrift stores today she found a steal to use them but in this story like that. we have our chairs and all the toys and the puppy in the balloons and everything caters to the children at this salon children get the royal treatment we do the glamour parties

where we do hair nails and make up this is about fantasy it's about fun and to live there and glam and fun from what they wear to where they live their life styles differ like day and. it is just so convoluted way to. live and to live in a true expensive and i want you to do too much just to get a home and then when you lose the home or the present is hard and the future bleak when people lose everything and have nothing left to lose they lose it and you can start seeing more and more people lose it the prospect that should frighten americans no matter what their circumstances as a society that allows greater and greater gap between rich and poor particularly one that allows that to happen quickly is going to suffer extreme signs of the costs of that kind of inequality and that's a very dangerous situation in terms of sustaining any semblance of a democracy they could easily lead to an authoritarian or crypto fascist state

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