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free. free. free blog videos for your media project free media. seven thirty pm on sunday here in moscow here just in time for the headline a thousand strong protest welcomes nato leaders in chicago police give a heavy handed response. to. the u.s. opens its arsenal of weapons. of mass uprising in the state. the pro western. the group of eight industrialized nations expressed hope greece can stay within the eurozone but experts paint a very different picture of what's really happening behind the scenes. my
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colleagues bill daughters here in half an hour's time but for now it's part two of our extended report about american foreign policy. i'm not saying i was an absolutely top form but you did great with the media now as an opportunity to grab on a couple things like what was the last question about palestinian terrorism well i thought i answered that well you're getting light is you know be in the media to marshal the focus and house and karen bennett you know is really charismatic i mean i think it's a question of priorities i spoke for two hours were going to people showed an enormous amount of tolerance and then me speak for two hours and therefore i have an obligation to let people have their say no i'm saying things which deeply upset many people in the audience if they controlled themselves for two hours and showed me their respect and i have an obligation to let them lead out their
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feelings and thoughts and complain about the media to get this going i don't want to be i don't want to use the media i don't like expressions like that i don't want to success which is based on ruthlessness a success that's based on. the victory of scoundrels and nominate a copy of the iconic speech you know that said i want to go sign is profiting from the holocaust just like the industry that you criticize and using the memory of his parents to profit off as that it was when you think about him well. it's a strange way to profit to lose your job and be thrown into exile in a place where you. don't want to be after fifty years of living in new york it's an odd sort of profiteering right end up living in chicago and. losing my job i can say i was a happy household my mother she always tries to derive lessons from what she
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experienced. she was always analyzing what happened she thought that you know in the thames you saw the secret of human nature there was another disco song which you all know i will survive and i will survive is about the one man whose boyfriend you know dumps her with leaves her and she's. some violence my mother love the song she didn't know the lyrics she just knew the referring and the rest frame for her was the war. so.
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why are you going. with your. last night i spent several hours several unpleasant hours reading and rereading their paper presented by dr finkelstein and i found it disturbing in a way which is not easy for me. the paper is suffused with pressman hatred and i strongly hope that when the proceedings of this conference are printed that such parts of this paper will not be included in them. dr finkelstein to speak we have an expression in english the truth is often deter pill to swallow we are supposed to be seriously examining history but you mention
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a few words about jewish collaborators and people gets so upset this is i'm sorry to say it's a form of emotional blackmail he says hamas is not recognized by the united states because hamas won't recognize israel the logical question is can you name a single israeli government official political party which has ever recognized a palestinian state within its internationally legal borders plain. wrong i'm wrong wrong ok how about international law where of course you agree with that they said. by palestinian territories the whole of the west bank and gaza you agree with the core no the point is just like me with the me in
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so far goes something like this house armed has especially for jews that from a biblical narrative you for the point of view of the history of the jewish. palestine has a stash resonance for the true ish people to imagine i'd sure stay in charge. in uganda or elsewhere simply the work of the jewish people who makes no sense i'm bashing the jewish state houses are made sense for the jewish people. we're talking to professor alan dershowitz he's author of a new book it's called to be the case for israel in debate with norman finkelstein among his books the holocaust industry and in each and reality of the israel
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palestine conflict now one thousand nine hundred eighty four one joan peters published a book called from time immemorial the book was universally recognized by serious scholars to be a fraud without wanting to toot my own horn i'm largely recognized as the person who exposed the froid. i know that book inside out i read it at least four times and i went through all eighteen hundred and fifty four footnotes i started to read your book mr dershowitz. i think came to chapter one footnotes ten foot no the live and footnote twelve footnote thirteen footnote fourteen footnote fifteen footnotes sixteen all of the quotes are from joan peters may or so from joan peters but you have a long quote here from mark twain and pages twenty three to twenty four i turned to
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joan peters page one fifty nine to sixty the identical quote from twain with with the ellipse ease is in the you know that way is the twain quote ranty a lip is the way to liberate france or a bit at the key of the ellipse sees in the same places the identical quote from twain with the ellipses in the same places it's been wife then read here really has stood mr dershowitz i don't what's your point is i think is that a correct word that is finishing it's never sure when i would ask you that i have is it a direct is it an accurate quote of twain that there are very clear is never plagiarism to quote mark twain exactly except it's not exactly a cite mark twain and not shown peter's i'm a professor i know what plagiarism it's. been a busy dish expression for my. mother means turning around to use a month or two to the dust if there she was this book made of course i wouldn't
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even use it as a schmuck. in the read you made to challenge my positions he accused me of plagiarism his charge was that because i used quotations from mark twain for example which he says i originally found in. a woman named petersburg. i had to cite the mark twain quotation not to mark twain himself which is of course what you're supposed to do according to the chicago manual and all other standard manuals but i was obliged to cite it to the peters book and fact cited peter's a times in fact i didn't find the mark twain quote in the pages book the soon as he accused me of plagiarism i went to harvard university and i said there's been this accusation i insist that you investigated please put an investigator on it they put
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their pocket former president of harvard with whom i had not had particularly good relations over the years and derek ma came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no basis for any plagiarism. you're listening to worldview from chicago public radio and we've been talking today with norman finkelstein assistant professor of political science at the paul think with me it's always had a controversial ads but the controversy never ends and it's conflict with harvard's alan dershowitz it began in a democracy now radio program several years ago when he alleged that dershowitz his
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book a case for israel was plagiarized more recently dershowitz is not a one campaign against illegal themes can you get a call the president of the call university has about the middle of this month to decide and when i was dr finkelstein these are faster to paul university who might get his tenure on tuesday if the university allows and by people like this be teaching our children in the class of us thanks for joining us i'm going to start off by asking where things that i know you're a ten year old old westie have you become too hot for my. and i think the american association of university professors has been watching. the demise of the. higher education of in the administration simply you know why don't you get rid of mine remember. when you.
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a prolific scholar and an outstanding teacher the university thanks him thank you thank you thank the university thanks him for his contributions and his service. i know a great deal about the finkelstein tenure case because the paul asked me to write a letter on finkelstein which i did and then i followed the case very closely from start to finish and i think this is an open and shut case i think that finkelstein should have gotten a ten year he's not a teacher he's a propagandist he's not
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a scholar or he simply write screeds the scandal was that paul university ever appointed him in the first place they appointed him because hard left professors who didn't care at all about his lack of scholarship just like his ideological. radicalism and lowered the standards to appoint him so it was a good decision to deploy university and it was a good decision for academic standards in general what he expects the shorts was going to hear cases dershowitz of being a liar and a plagiarist what is he going to expect but just what's to keep quiet then we know all the kind of connections and dershowitz has in the united states so why don't you tell it like on campus not so i mean normal some person wouldn't have done anything right so well what did he expect and i don't feel it was that he should downplay the issue of plagiarism i didn't think that a person would in the news and wouldn't issue. there she was a plagiarist piers not significant but significant as the material about the
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history of. it he did i thought he would put it in several of them just drop. in my view most of this talk about civility is a red herring when you consider that our best universities eagerly recruit in dubai the bull war criminal whether it was colombia that sought out kissinger whether it was george howell which employed kirkpatrick or stands for which now
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has rumsfeld when you consider that professors in our best universities advocate torture and the order medic destruction of villages after a terrorist attack when you consider all this becomes clear that the question of civility whether one treats his or her critics according to emily post's rules of etiquette however real the question is. is by comparison a meaningless sideshow or just a transparent pretext for the knowing a person the right to teach an account of his or her unpopular political beliefs thank you.
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to the outside world the conflict in lebanon seemed to stop as a summer school. fighting stopped about one thousand two hundred people killed most of the civilians of the map of web allies of the middle east to be drawn in ways that no one expects or. many of those jewish most of them in the capitals of the west of since it but the stakes of the structures of my.
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welcome you and i ask that you take a moment of silence to honor the lives of those who died in palestine iraq and lebanon. and that some of you might know that. dr norman was born in new york city led to a jewish family that survived the nazi camps. could be but our guest heard stories from his parents of the nazi massacres are the reincarnation of those stories in the streets today. remember the challenge and i would add that the challenge is to be both principle and reasonable at the same goal i had and that
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didn't sound on reasonable you're going to lose the international community but that's i want to and i don't think that's the way to win the struggle like that and that you're funny it. was. a bit of this running important that we have americans here who want to show that will knock on the american people against that but a syrian lights we know when the people knows the reality. on the site was. that it was the. the longer. that. was. coming.
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don't suppose i could have given a rather awkward torque you know long live on struggle and smash the zionist into the crap life. ok i don't believe in the n.b.a. i think it's pointless. i did what i can which is. please can we intelligently about possibilities for a change in the u.s. . but it's been tough you know there was one moment. sort of like. how. oh i'm a proud profound thing comes out from. the simple person she was lying in bed she's seventy two years old and i asked her how old are you she's and she looks a little shuffle. back and first open sewage i suppose. she said i'm twelve years old and you're twelve years old if you're twelve because i love palestine and i was twelve years old enough to that was the end of life.
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from twelve years of age and. it was a good learning you remember things like that. after the barber. and after the shame not done robbie well by the odd and after the anger about them although there still remains the hope. i'm not that i'm on and i know that i can get in a lot of trouble for what i'm about to say while a man you cannot argue my second. self with i think that there's a lot represents the hope like and i thought of them hezbollah you must and sometimes i think i have an effect it's a very good thing and now i'm going to tell you and has inflicted on the hezbollah a huge defeat as you might done it and this where you have to keep knocking them until you heard what i am and you are and you also will doubt about i don't see how
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they reached their son and. yeah i would. let them off getting the his fame has come from one of his books about the holocaust and other books about the israel palestine conflict. and. gannett the month is out when you visited lebanon meetings are scandal for you . with various political leaders and some a hezbollah leader there is a fundamental principle people have the right to defend their country from foreign occupiers and people have the right to defend their country from invaders who are destroying their country and that to me is a very very sick elementary and uncomplicated question.
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look he's not in the same classes as bala you know it's not a position to lob missiles in northern israel make a third of the country and habitable. he's not a clear and present danger in the way that hamas is what he and people like him and name of terrorism. people who are creating a climate. incrementally in which. israel's legitimacy is no longer considered axiomatic in which violence against civilians is no longer axiomatic.
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it's more more of a qualitatively more then the usual this content of perth and feels with the world. i see it as. radically unfair and therefore it has to be radically changed other people who think it's wrong for the night with these are not radical. the more go you know who you choose through whose eye is. through whose are these you
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