welcome to the ilona show will you get the real headlines with none of the mersey we're coming live out of washington d.c. for you on this monday alone to have the night off i'm christine for south filling in and tonight we're going to speak with two men who were held up at gunpoint by the chicago police for live streaming then in one of the most watched anti-war protests in decades dozens of veterans tossed their medals onto the streets and it's monday hangover so we'll talk about why the obama campaign is going after mitt romney's time at bain capital and private equity donations favor obama will have

all that for you tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media decided to miss. the last three days have been what some of what rightfully call the summit palooza the g eight summit just wrapped up the nato summit is happening right now and ahead this week is the new summit and as we know with summits come protests people who feel disenfranchised and want to have their messages heard by the most powerful leaders in the world those who make the big decisions that have a global impact and therefore also get invited to such summits and we can totally scorn the mainstream media this time they are covering those protests and the clashes taking place but they're doing so in such a way that you know you see the pictures but you still get very little substance take a look here's confrontation yesterday between protesters and police left dozens of people injured on both sides chicago bracing for more violent protests on the final

day of the nato summit oh tester's rallying against nato they are now setting their sights on a new target though this time they're valued to shut down the boeing headquarters several people. her a few dozen arrested and the prediction of possible violence around the nato summit came true by a standoff if you will at the end of these protests we have the line of the police right here with the right shields up in the right gear for officers were injured one of them apparently stabbed in the legs dozens were injured at least forty five people were arrested during otherwise peaceful demonstrations by thousands clash with in chicago police in riot gear trying to push back thousands of protesters protesters refused to leave or to police a long time to clear that and there was violence american police officers with nightsticks and shields of course really shut down the public demonstration the main focus today is going to be boeing corporate headquarters in downtown chicago boeing of course a big defense contractor one of mass protesters opposed to the war among other

things that were to be back out on the streets again today. all right so there you have a lot of clashes and you know even when reporters do interview those protesters you almost never hear the questions what are you protesting why are you here questions about the police presence and police brutality are important too but what about why these thousands of people have traveled to chicago in many cases taking days off work to voice their concerns is it because they're all crazy as many media outlets would want us to believe about these protesters as they did with occupy was that there are plenty of reports coming out today about which issues are being discussed inside nato why not also talk about what's happening outside there are plenty of questions the media hasn't asked in my lifetime and in my parents' lifetime for that matter as well especially when it comes to tough questions about war they didn't do so with vietnam it wasn't until tens of thousands of people had died before the motivation and strategy were called into question several years later

and then when people here in this country the mainstream media was told by the george w. bush administration that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq they repeated soundbites right official statements on air no one really looked into it. and as far as afghanistan often called the war of necessity it's the same thing it's been the longest war in history extremely costly both with money and with lives so people are mad but what members of the mainstream media say about those people for getting angry for questioning the us government and nato his decision to continue to be at war nothing because we're not ignoring them altogether or talking to them about their arrest or quizzing them about what nato stands for. so if you're curious about what large amounts of people including veterans who risked their lives for this country if you're curious about what they're saying about the decisions of our elected leaders to remain in afghanistan or what their experiences have been well you probably have to look somewhere else because the issues in the messages of protesters is yet another thing the mainstream media has decided to

miss. and it's not just the protesters getting the short end of the stick at this weekend's nato protests journalists are also having a tough time doing their jobs some apparently being targeted by chicago police here's video of some of those journalists being pulled over by the police. for being raided right now for those that are watching we're being raided by the c.p.d. as we speak. what is this what is this forum but. it didn't give us an explanation for why there was no cars cars with all of these are.

oh if you were following this on twitter as some of us were you saw a tweet like this tim paul tweeted calming down still paranoid after being coughed at gunpoint. tweeted it sadly the footage that i am almost got shot for shooting last night and was deleted by c.p.d. can not be recovered and joining me are independent journalist tim paul and. hey guys want to thank you for being on the show and i guess i want to talk to you first time just talk talk to me a little bit about your experience this tweet you were held up at gunpoint. i didn't know that they had one right away or. what it was it was you know i made an assumption. and swearing at us. i was focused on making sure that my my life was going out and then they all this out got. pretty jarring and then afterwards john and. and look i

know that we've talked to you several times and you're an expert these days at covering protests i'm just wondering a little bit how these protests in chicago compared to say you know the time you spent when you were in new york covering the occupy protests or do stars are actually a lot more violent police officers the c.b.d. we're using over and method but in the times a lot of people are bloody there was a lot of blood in the streets yesterday a lot of people got hurt so we tried to do our best to document everything lives oh we have a lot of video it's very interesting to. read on the street once again and not american soil of troops paramilitary all over the place and it's very very just very intimidating seeing all these factors come into play especially with the involvement of the department of homeland security which had their vehicle and all over and also interrogated my friend about me and was questioning me about me the night that our we were all over again point now let me ask you about that i read

that tweet that you posted as well and one of your friends was actually stopped and asked questions about you i mean where were the authorities asking the officers one of they want to know about you. just to make it clear was somebody there was a failure did we are to get walkie are they stopped him detain them illegally for six hours and brought him to our home where security are fusion center and they questioned him about our how you knows me asking you by name without where it was where where i was staying and the c.p.d. pretty much got all the information when they are all those who are going for it i guess ten let me follow up with you on talk to me about where you stand in terms of legal trouble are you still in legal trouble what will be the consequences from here on out based on the activities of over this weekend. there's any legal trouble just got the chains got to before interrogation they searched for him some large

batteries around and then i was told afterwards by one of the supervisors there are people matched the description of what they were looking for or even though they admitted. to the cops they continue to search for a long. i guess i want to know a little bit more about some of the live streaming i know that was shut down for a time and i think luke you said that that that video was taken away what was the reason given for this i just want to say one more thing our vehicle has new mexico license plates i don't think there's a lot of cars and chicago that have new mexico license plates but yeah we were streaming live i assume as soon as i was or said put your hands out the window my cell phone came out the window with my hands and i overheard all of you saying don't shoot it's just assault or i recorded them coming at us with guns are you stream sound we could not actually recover that footage i'm very sad about that but i was in handcuffs the officers were searching the vehicle are they let me they let

me go so i went back to my cell phone started streaming them but our search of the cell phone out of their hands are let me in the back again and they are turned off the footage and made sure that archiving the footage is deleted and sadly the world didn't get to see it but the few people who were on our ustream and got down notification and were able to watch it but the footage was deleted on the story so there's no record of it yeah it was really interesting i mean one of the things that i thought was so fascinating and i guess it's just a sign of the times we live in is how many people sort of became your guys' eyes and ears people sort of tweeting at you letting you know where police were what they were seeing what was going on tim what was your reaction to this were you surprised at all. i've been expecting something like this and i'm really grateful that i have watched no one was and i know that there are several several of our friends were detained at their car and some other of the lives your mother

lives shimmers were between the interrogators and they didn't have the you and watching the outs like we do so it feels great that we are not paying attention. it also brings like other journalists who are sort of you know i guess rascals and boy well i mean that's i was going to say i mean it's surprising to me every time i hear about this or see this but this isn't new and it's not even you know it's not something we dealt with recently with the occupy protests with journalists being turned away being kept down having their you know stuff taken away why aren't we why haven't we gotten past this i guess in terms of police i mean police were so ready with their riot gear and with their batons why weren't they ready to deal with journalists. i'm surprised i don't know the answer i have no idea we don't speculate but i think george orwell could

sit very well in a time of universal deceit telling the truth as a revolutionary act now we can only speculate but what meaning to do is very different than what the mainstream media does provide on the edited live unbiased perspective you are for. twelve hours sometimes twelve hours live for people and a lot of times i mean tim recently his video was used to are clear a protest there of criminal charges in court i mean having that camera in your hands is extremely powerful it's pretty much a coach out in the truth in your hands and what me and you were trying to do is just try to encourage everybody to get out there get their cell phones up so. because it's no longer oh and officers were to approach esther's the truth i'm not sure. all right well we appreciate you weighing in with us today hope you keep us posted with all that live streaming temple and joining us from chicago illinois.

time now for you said i read it where i take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i listen that's not i want to read some of the feedback we got from my interview last week with the business insider joe weisenthal about whether or not a romney presidency could save the u.s. from default and therefore help the economy alan hoffa commented on facebook said it when his slashing taxes on the rich and slashing spending on social programs led to a strong economy that's part of what caused the great recession obama is no f.d.r. but the notion that any of romney's policies would help the economy is without any foundation. he said on facebook no economy cannot improve without jobs we have to start making things again and selling them to others not just be consumers and me smoke them peace pipe commented on you tube the only way the economy will win is if

the government stop stealing from the middle class and the poor and we all know that's not going to happen and by the way love christine redheads for the win so what's mixed responses nothing too hopeful that a president romney was going to stop the u.s. economy from going off a cliff and of course how could i not share a redhead shout out. next i want to respond to some of the viewer comments on my interview last week with chris hedges about his victory in court over the n.d.a. as indefinite detention last breath commented on you tube to chris hedges noam chomsky and others who stood up against this law on behalf of all true american patriots thank you and a stranger sound a very astute viewers said chris appears to be incorrect on the vote which is listed as ninety three to six with one absent vote bernie sanders voted no according to the record please correct me if i'm wrong we want to say no you're actually not wrong according to congressional records of bernie sanders of vermont did in fact vote against the n.d.a.

and finally for a little fun richard dawkins and tweeted out us why isn't atheel on a show called the christine show when christine standing in for alona redo the graphics of the show title just because alone i was on a short vacation i'm not sure she would appreciate that that's going to do it for tonight's you said it i read it alone i will be back with more later in the week now coming up later in the break we'll continue our discussion on nader protest in chicago with joe mccarthy an occupied chicago tribune editor and contributor he won't want to miss that. part of american power. might be time. to we're going to hold. him.

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to the capital account i'm lauren lyster. all right well i want to talk a little more about some of the protesters outside of nato this weekend one of the biggest events was a march led by iraq veterans against the war but also included thousands of veterans of the war in afghanistan and various other anti-war protesters as well now one of the things that sort of made me stop in my tracks was when many of them

took their medals and threw them on the streets of chicago not far from where the nato summit was held take a look at this. one by one forty five the current spoke of their own thing and each turned and threw their medals cord mccormick place. many veterans called their medals representations of hate and cheap tokens some also made some pretty emotional pleas begging for forgiveness from the people of iraq and afghanistan from the children left without parents many also ended their statements calling for bradley manning to be free joining me is joe met development a communications associate at truthout and an editor and contributor at the occupied chicago tribune hey joe thanks so much for being here i guess i want to

talk a little bit about what we just saw some really powerful video i was sort of watching the line live stream of it earlier i mean do you think people were surprised forty five veterans throwing their medals into the street. and it should be noted that the reason they were throwing them where they do it is that this is the closest that this march was permitted to get to the makes it summit they should wanted to return the medals to the nature generals but this march you know had to stop at the silence where it did so some of them threw them on the ground some of them threw them over the fence but it was an extremely powerful emotional moment. one of them said you know some of us are kill innocent people and then there are those who are not here right now because they've killed themselves some of them are people who were who are discharges dishonorable discharges all of the normal discharges others were people who were actually deserted at least one veteran said

that they were deserted and there were veterans who couldn't be there but wanted to be say and deserted lest the country would face you know legal proceedings if they returned to the united states it's just so interesting because so often you see you know people from our parents' generation people wearing tie dye those very peaceful anti-war people but to see so many people men and women in their twenty's recently some of them very recently back from serving in afghanistan to be talking about this i mean what impact do you think this will have a lot of times very traditionally in this country we see you know a very pro military portrait troops you know just kind of a a wave in this country that steers the energy and the excitement towards the military this is not what we saw. right and it's important to note while this was a joint delegation between the iraq veterans against the war and afghans east

and while they were very clear to emphasize that the people of afghanistan and iraq have been the primary victims that it's war it's the the the troops are victims as well on that side i mean in the united states who fights the war it's not the people who make the decisions to go to wall it's the people who are you know the ninety nine percent we have the kind of economic conscription in this country and i think that's something that with that was reflected another really interesting thing is to contrast in fact as a piece of truth out about this right now by just mice and to contrast the what the veterans were saying about having come to realize that that audience was moral and haven't come to regret the violence they took to contrast that with what subsequently happens on the streets of chicago which is the violence that was dealt with take it took place with the chicago police the state police beating protested you know basically an arms. yeah really interesting things some of those pictures

coming out this week in the protests just looked huge in terms of the protests that we've been covering over the last year occupy wall street certainly being one of the biggest at to this point and i'm curious i want to ask you because i know you've covered occupy since the beginning how did it how did this compare with what you saw over the last several months with occupy oakland in new york here in d.c. all of the above well i mean i've been focused on chicago and this is definitely been chicago's moment in the spotlight as it were despite the fact the protest is didn't want this summit to happen i think that the occupy movement here knew that this would really be a time when the whole world watching and there's been some really important to note that it's made between visits from occupy movements all across the country and indeed side of the united states with occupy chicago occupy chicago is important not just because i list doesn't just like find it one of most

interesting occupy movements it's also because those a desire on the part of some people in the democratic party to co-opt occupy and to use it as a way as a sort of the fuel for the election so the republicans the party of one percent democrat stands ninety nine percent but in chicago it's where along party city is actually and the mayor is someone who is very close to a stray ssion and the nato summit is an event which a farmer was present so this protest in chicago in this city against this summit i don't think many and you know have it so be something that the occupy movement nationwide was a cult and makes it clear that this is not a movement that is going to support the democrats for as long as they continuing to engage in in you know policies overseas or essentially wars so on behalf of the global one percent it's interesting too i mean is there only just having it in chicago wasn't the reason that. nato was so big it's big every year

a lot of topics certainly drew a lot of people who wanted to come out and voice their opinion but what they do every year with a lot of these summits is they set up you know they know the protesters are coming so they set up free speech zones they say all right protesters you know stay behind this line or behind this fence or two miles away from where the sun is going to be held. that happened but also there were plenty of you know anarchists and black block protests who wanted to protest where they wanted to protest kind of break this down for me how this happens and what the point of that is. right and i think it's important to make a distinction between three separate things one is anarchists and ideology and as a sort of political persuasion not everyone who identifies as not a kid gets involved like what tactics and you know black block is a tactic which is people can trust in black to move as a group are and you tend to be more confrontational with the police and might do things like link arms and try and push through a police line and then in

a third country you have people who just choose not to disperse when a police order to disperse is given or you choose to go on a march or join a march that doesn't have a permit there were very few moments granted for this weekend and two of the permits that were granted for the rally in daley plaza on friday and then the march to mccormick place yesterday they did change the route so they threatened to revoke the government's so there was a lot of you know marching with out and nowhere chicago like to say the first amendment itself and you can see why you know clearly there are people who believe they should be allowed to protest in the streets when they want not on the police terms absolutely sometimes when you've got to get your message out you can't wait for the authorities to tell you what to do so development and communications director and associate a truthout also an editor at the occupied at chicago tribune thanks so much number

one thing sounds me. well last summer the execution of troy davis called the american cause of the american criminal justice system to be the subject of intense scrutiny even ignoring the controversial issue of the death penalty supporters of davis claimed that there was significant doubt over his guilty conviction many argued the case was just one example of how an overzealous system allows the innocent to face punishment for crimes they didn't commit and we have covered other such stories like the case of carlos carlos de luna discussed here last week he was executed by texas in one thousand nine hundred nine but a recent seven hundred eighty page study by columbia law school said the man was innocent another reason study has laid out in great detail how the problem of wrongful convictions is deeply systemic thousands of prisoners have had a rony of convictions overturned since one thousand nine hundred nine according to the study the report was compiled by the national registry of exonerations a joint project between professors from the university of michigan law school and northwestern university it detailed eight hundred ninety one cases where prisoners

convicted of serious crimes were exonerated by courts and executive officers now the study also noted one thousand one hundred seventy prisoners have had convictions overturned because of thirteen separate policeman misconduct scandals and while the study focused on the time since d.n.a. evidence came to be a major factor in cases most mistaken convictions were the cause of human error less than half of exonerations thirty seven percent were due to new d.n.a. evidence the major factors that led to guilty convictions work perjury or false accusation mistaken eyewitness identification and official official misconduct and perhaps most shockingly official misconduct to lead to false guilty verdict in fifty six percent of the homicide cases studied by the registry. and the report's authors believe the number of those wrongfully imprisoned is gratefully undercounted by the study the lucky ones are those who are freed people like roger gillespie an ohio man who spent two decades in prison for heinous crimes he didn't

commit he's now a free man. to a regional detectives working the case had cleared gillespie as a suspect after the three rapes that critical information was never shared with his defense before trial and that's why a federal judge vacated his conviction last week gillespie was originally offered just thirty days in jail if he would just admit to the crimes but he refused to plead guilty for something he didn't do you are. all. you know the value of the. well if anything can be learned from the study mistakes could be avoided if defendants are given better resources the report's authors noted that the high profile cases particularly those involving capital punishment are more likely to lead to exoneration convictions that lead to death sentences were nine times more likely to be overturned and that's because many more

defense lawyers donate their time and expertise to these cases if all defendants were afforded better representation miscarriages of justice could be avoided and it could also save taxpayer money in the long run not only is it expensive to keep prisoners incarcerated but those wrongfully convicted and their families often sue the state local or federal government that put them behind bars in the first place . so tight we have to take a quick break but when we come back we'll have our monday hangover panel featuring j. crew and not well we'll talk about private equity firms i will ask are they the vein of our existence. let's not forget that we are in a park right brooke. i think. he'd want to.