only. partial words spoken by one of america's many heroes soldiers returning from the battlefield are fighting once again this time on u.s. soil and against the top brass will introduce you to a few of them and cut up with injured veteran scott olsen. a member of this thousands of angry protesters in wisconsin yelling shame a republican governor scott walker actors union busting bills passed now is jobs on the line with a storage recall election just days away coming up next see why the outcome of this election could potentially create political the steria. plus you know that motto

what's yours is mine old purley that's the type of relationship the f.b.i. wants to harness with every american citizen inventing new technology that helps them eavesdrop on your private cyber conversations we'll tell you what that means for your online data. friday may twenty fifth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm abby martin and you're watching our team usually military service medals are keepsakes they're held on for life by soldiers are passed down their family lineage however at last weekend's nato summit over fifty veterans from the nine eleven wars threw away their military medals and protest it was a symbol mostly of reconciliation for the afghan war and also act of defiance against nato military had money parties on a stasi a church brings us the story. true patriots they followed the order to fight their

country's battles scott olsen survived two tours in iraq only to be critically injured upon returning home by police clashing with occupy oakland protesters also had joined the military to do good work to help other people to be part of something bigger than ourselves and to defend our country but instead he and many others discovered an ugly truth about the military escapades they were involved in a mills with me raymond gave four years to the u.s. army and spent five years in kuwait as a contractor his experiences changed his perception of the u.s. there are crazy in the violence there stop in the peace and there are people from their culture from their communities and killing people in drone attacks. this group of veterans says the system they were part of is one that throws away billions of dollars on and less wars yet pinches every extra penny when it comes to those fighting them when veterans come home one in three of them will be homeless

we have a veteran suicides every single day every thirty six hours an active duty soldier kills himself. u.s. veterans are increasingly taking to the streets to challenge what they believe to be false pretense worthless we don't agree with this illegal occupation that's been held in afghanistan pakistan iraq and other foreign countries because it's now a war based on terrorism is a base it's a war based other motives for money and political power agendas boil. over the weekend in chicago dozens of veterans marched the streets of what these anymore and dumped their war medals. was. by simply throwing them out in rejection of what those medals signify this is where we are disobedient. against anybody. this is to them into joining the military and the wars were not what they were told they would be.

in these protests the veterans were joined by thousands of other americans also outraged with u.s. wars the american people are angry they're frustrated and they don't know which way to turn anymore with presidential elections around the corner these veterans see real change can only come from the bottom i didn't expect any changes in two thousand and eight when obama got elected and i surely don't expect any changes now those ones taking commands to fight on foreign soil now taking command of the battle for peace at a whole. chicago illinois. one of those that attended the nato protest was an iraq war veteran scott olsen if you recognize the name it's because of this video but you know what you. also have the marine who suffered severe injuries when he was struck in the head with a beanbag round by police during occupy oakland protest a while back twenty four year old suffered from a fractured goal which led to brain damage and difficulty with the speech his

interest outrage within the occupy community against the unusually harsh crackdowns conducted by the occupy oakland police hundreds of rally to his cause and candlelight vigils across the country to this day also has become sort of a symbol to the occupy community as well as to war veterans who are protesting the system are to correspondent churkin to actually have a chance to catch up with him here's part of their interview. do you think the authorities who recruit soldiers such as yourself to do the bidding for them abroad are sensually lying to get people to join the military about the reasons behind the wars the us is involved and they at least mislead people. they may lie to you but they will mislead you not give you the whole story and that's why it's so important if you will join the military to talk to as many veterans as you can find thing most veterans would recommend against somebody joining. it's you know it's it's

a life changing thing and you know i wouldn't take my joining. back because made me who i am i would not recommend anyone else to make this mistake some critics of the occupy wall street movement are trying to undermine the substance of what it's all about really by saying that they're still almost here on in no one's unified strong signal message what do you say to those people well you know anytime there's a large number of people demanding change and the system feels right and they're going to attack us and the way in every way. and we do have a message we're getting the short on this we're working and we're not getting what we really deserve we're working and our. salaries have gone up in years our corporations are making billions every day the banks will always find

a way to screw us over presidential elections in the us are just around the corner and for years after barack obama was elected people critics are now saying that basically there is no difference between the democrats and the republicans that their whole two sides of the same coin are you still expecting any kind of change to take place after the elections regardless of which one of the parties wins i think what both of those are wrong choices they're both working for the same. it says that they both take money from the same people from the same banks and and we even see in their policies that they're rewarding their donors so considering both democrats and republicans essentially bring the same thing to the table what is the alternative what could be the other options easing for the united states. for a third party that may not win i mean you make voting for a third party as a way to vote but i tell you voting for

a democrat is the way to new voting for republicans a wasted vote you're shooting yourself in the book if you will vote for either of those and i was iraq war veteran scott olsen with artie's honest us after going to . wisconsin governor scott walker made national headlines last year when he busted state unions remember this quip. and governor walker's attack on collective bargaining rights caused a seventeen day occupation of the state capital by hundreds of thousands of workers a student led to a recall election against sens court later ruled that anti-union law unknown today is act ten is unconstitutional and violates a number of rights but the protesters didn't stop at that as actions as well as these led to the generation of over a million signatures being turn and demanding to have governor walker recalled from office. and that's where we find ourselves today in two weeks wisconsin voters will head to the polls to choose between scott walker and someone else that someone

else's democratic candidate tom barrett who's giving scott walker a run for his money but if walker is one thing on his side it's the money factor he's already outspent democrats by twenty percent and the race is currently neck and neck let me just remind you of how big this issue is not only for the battle between unions and republicans but also for this country after all only two governors have ever been outed by a recall vote so this is definitely historic and what is happening on the ground there right now is resistance swelling and what will happen if walker wins in murphy editor at buffalo beast dot com fill us in on the latest developments take a listen of the climate's very divisive highly. highly divided state right now it's pretty much neck and neck in the polls and. everyone is really energized the base is energized everyone's energized to get the vote out so it is interesting how neck and neck the race is and who is backing

both sides at this point. well as you may know this is basically a rerun of the two thousand and ten gubernatorial race in wisconsin with scott walker vs now milwaukee mayor tom barrett and the statistically significant differences in the polls it's neck and neck and that was the same case in two thousand and ten and so is the funding structure of both candidates many have complained that the d.n.c. and the national democratic machine has been kind of slow to respond to what the right knows is a very important election with national historic implications and the funding structure on the right is very similar to two thousand and ten it's the koch brothers funded americans for prosperity it's the republican governors association dumping tons of cash and then basically every far altar conservative billionaire from the country is dumping boatloads of money into this thing for instance foster

friess as sugar daddy scuse me rick santorum sugar daddy foster freeze the guy who said women should keep the chased by placing an aspirin between their legs he cut two checks each for two hundred fifty thousand dollars and it's estimated that walker's. going to raise at the end of the day sixty million in total and according to. john nichols nation reporter in medicine red as resident walker is currently outspending barrett twenty five to one but still it's basically fifty fifty so so it's a lot of out of state money that we're seeing funnel no more than last time and why do you think that we have it i mean there are thoughts a groundswell of protest against walker and it's kind of brutal don i mean is it just because people are out there day to day do you think that we're going to theme some really historic shift in the protest movement there if walker indeed went.

well i can't really speak to that beyond you know people have their lives to live their jollies to go to so when something is outrageous it can only be outrageous for so long but i am a can in contact with. any of them and really angry just they don't have time to go to the state capitol every weekend and voice their outrage the thinking is though that they will on june fifth right i mean it is hard to go out there every day and you know when you are you know and you know working networking in class like a lot of people are in wisconsin which is this issue is all about and i wanted to ask your opinion on voter fraud i mean we know walker has a lot of ties to the industry and we already know about these scrub lists and i mean voting software that can flip the vote i mean do you think that there's going to be any dirty tricks in terms of regain the boat you have an opinion on not anything's possible and you know casting nicholas over there in wisconsin has. sound you know thousands of votes on

a computer before so anything is possible but on one bright side of this the kind of eliot that's the american legislative exchange council coat back legislating group modeled bill about voter id at the very least a judge has put that off so will not be in affects by june fifth so that in itself is good for the democrats. and i wanted to ask your opinion i just heard your your phone calls that you made every time you met your david koch and i just want to ask aaron what is the one thing that you kind of learned from speaking to him when he thought that you were a coke brother what did you take away from that well first of all just generally i learned that scott walker's not very bright second of all i think i've learned just you know i had no idea but i didn't know how easy it would be to get him on the phone that was a little bit of a shock to. and i also wanted to talk about these fliers that have

been you know they've been from some anonymous group in wisconsin there are these flyers kind of scanning teachers saying that and we're looking at them right now and it's talk of how teachers are enforcing a marxist agenda how they're sexualizing the youth and dr dating my people in the schools i mean we know that teachers were affected big time by this union busting effort i mean what do you think that there's any chance that these fliers from the you know anonymous group are coming from the walker campaign. i would i have no doubt that it's involved with walker he may not know for say but i'd be highly surprised if it weren't it basically goes right in line with the koch brothers agenda this alec kind of agenda of privatizing schools as well and the most important aspect of this whole thing you know walker's recently admitted that he's going to be going after private unions to it's. you know he said it was divide and

conquer and the whole idea is to ruin and wreck unions because the unions are the ones who vote. or excuse me fund democratic candidates and the corporations and the rich believe the billionaires fund the republicans so in this kind of post citizens united where these two groups can spend unlimited amounts of money that's the ultimate end game and let's take this outside of wisconsin for a second i mean in light of the entire occupy wall street movement kind of erupting after all of this went down in wisconsin i mean with income inequality at such at such a forefront in the political dialogue right now how come we don't hear more about unionizing and really workers' rights with in that i mean where do you see this all going in light of this whole movement kind of exploding over the last year. well you know it's heading in in the right direction generally but. i'd have to say that it's by and large the fault of the democratic party they may call out some of this language but when you see their actions they speak much louder than their words

what was it if if workers' rights are infringed upon president obama is going to put it is loafers on and go stand in the picket lines well that didn't happen in wisconsin and it's not by and large happening now. so i think a lot of people are kind of. we have to do something else i think it really shows you i mean we can the workers cannot depend on really the federal level to care about you and that's really all about the grassroots just like it always has been thanks for joining us and i was in murphy editor at buffalo beast dot com. so i had here on our team the f.b.i. is getting awfully frisky but their online data creating some sneaky ways to spy on your personal internet communications give you a few good reasons why you should be worried. r t is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.

russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to u.s. . efforts for a just burned your eyes right right i mean it's like a derivative of actual pepper it's a food product essentially. much stronger than anything you'd be by a lot of. thousands of times stronger than any kind of debris and they were putting a. straight. up in the ilona so you know there's

a real headlines with none of them are the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and from what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and forget it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . technology is advancing by the second and the government is having trouble keeping up especially when it comes to internet surveillance but they have a response they form a secret surveillance facility called the domestic communications assistance center base in quantico virginia better known as the d.c. ac for short it's tasked with inventing technology that will outpace local law enforcement's wiretapping capabilities now may seem like there's a new story about government wiretapping every day but what makes this one so interesting is the shroud of secrecy surrounding its formation surveillance unit doesn't have a website and the f.b.i.

has declined to comment on really anything about its operations so what is really going behind those closed doors and what does this mean for our civil liberties earlier i was joined by the journalist who broke the story declan mccaughey political correspondent for seen it i asked him what makes this facility so different than any other government wiretapping facility take a listen to what he said. now let's do this first this isn't actually going to be doing the wire taps it's going to be inventing the technology to do the wired right it's a small distinction but it's an interesting one and second this is kind of fun this is a government wide facility it's not just the f.b.i. it also has the drug enforcement administration and u.s. marshals involved is the department justice white facility and third as you said it's it's secret i'd like to know who's running out i'd like to know how many people are going to be involved but we know lou from some appropriations documents what the funding will be fifty million plus is what they're talking about but i'd like to just know a bit more about how the website. yeah web site would be nice that going off what

you just said about how they're actually going to be doing the wiretapping just the invention of technology i wanted to read an excerpt that you actually had on your article that says it's important to point out that the n.b.c. ac will not be required for the actual execution of electronic surveillance court orders and will not have any direct operational or investigate investigative role and investigation so is this the f.b.i. kind of saying you know our hands are clean we're just kind of doing it we're just the thought and then the end invention and we have nothing to do with the civil liberties or court orders i mean what does that really say you know that is the statement they sent me which isn't really that descriptive it goes back to the fact that they're not exactly being terribly forthcoming about the center but. maybe one way to think about it is this the f.b.i. has a court orders in many cases to conduct surveillance on skype or google hangout or whatnot and they can't necessarily get the information from the companies in the

format they can understand and they're kind of stuck in one thousand even one nine hundred ninety s. right more telephone wires have to be a bit of wireless thrown in but certainly not what we're encountering now on the internet so they want to wait to figure out how to make sense of it and this is what the d.c.-ac is designed to do it's designed to kind of be their little silicon valley research lab and it creates all those wonderful wiretapping technology that when you know if facebook google skype you know all these companies are. invested in this facility or are they just kind of i mean i know you mentioned that they were kind of in the lobbying saying of things that are you know if they're directly invested in this or working with the f.b.i. this is. this is just ramping up they're just hiring i mean if you look at the job posting failing to from my article they were just posted last month and they closed a few weeks ago and so this is this is still a work in progress and so i expect to see some of the sort of beltway contractors these small shadowy companies you've never heard of those who can be the ones who

are probably going to be providing some technical help the google microsoft facebook apple except they're more involved in the. legal end of this mean this is that what we're talking about the p.c.'s the is the technological solution to a great wiretap wiretapping is that understands that the legal component i wrote about a few weeks ago and that is let's have congress pass a law to make all these companies build back doors into their products make them more wiretap friendly and the companies don't exactly enthusiastic about this they're not saying so publicly because you don't want to give fight against the f.b.i. at least until they see legislative language but apple and microsoft were lobbying on this according to the most recent disclosure documents and their nominee said so they're going to be quietly resisting and probably openly resisting when the time comes the legislation is actually going to house floor vote or something like that there was interest dana the job description that alice and i guess recruiting hackers pretty much to do their bidding but i wanted you to expand

a little bit on the dark program what what's going on i know that we don't really know how much money is allocated specifically for the center but tell us a little bit more about what this new program is. well the going dark program has been talked about inside of the f.b.i. for maybe five years or so so it's not exactly that new in a kinglet in new york times article and i elaborated on it in a piece that seen it a few weeks ago and the idea is that the f.b.i. is ability to consent to conduct surveillance is diminishing as technology advances this is what's called going dark they can't see anymore and so they have they have a multi-pronged strategy and it's actually very interesting point to that scene a piece of few weeks ago but one of them is let's have a new law on data retention that would require internet service providers to keep track of what their users are doing for about eighteen months and that cleared a house judiciary committee last year and it hasn't gone forward since i don't think we've given up so that pay attention to that and the second one is lobbying

to make these social networking websites you know providers etc wiretap reading the third is the d.c.-ac which is the technological component if we can't. get a law enacted at least we can try to make more sense of the information. that going with such a widespread program that affects local national national and i'm on the federal level and also da is innocent of all this i mean why do you think there is such a shroud of secrecy among a program that is so widespread and will be so. important and how it's actually not unprecedented i mean if you look at. look look back about ten years actually like twelve years before the patriot act was was approved there was an alleged monster new jersey called scar and i covered his case in new jersey federal district court and the f.b.i. got a court order to sneak into this guy's office and install a key logger so that the reporters p.g.p. encryption passphrase really couldn't break it so they had just broken into his

office to record it instead and they fought tooth and nail against disclosing this this was a national security secret a few years later i did a foyer request for information about have which is the f.b.i. says there's basically government spyware that was implant on a suspect computer hopefully with a court order and they also were doctored a lot of information that they just don't like talking about their surveillance technology they can kind of understand that because if the bad guys know what they're doing and what the f.b.i. is doing they can adjust accordingly so they tend to keep these things very secret until very overt five years the details come out and sawyer question aggression will recite committees and so on yeah it does seem to be a trend the secrecy with with wiretapping but i mean it seems like every new wiretapping scheme you could say i mean the five and also the patriot act it does seem like there is widespread government abuse of a of authority and overreaching of what they say they're specifically doing with

these programs do you think that we will see some sort of government overstepping or overreaching with this program. well it's hard to say i mean this is just ramping up. a few points would be that. the f.b.i. would say if you ask them we're not expanding our authority to wiretap or with the d.c.-ac we're expanding our ability to actually make to make the wiretaps work in the surveillance work and so they'll be the way they've said before but and the second is that ever since the patriot act was approved and expanded in a bunch of different directions or lots of small expansions government ability to conduct surveillance we've seen some abuses of the surveillance with the department of justice inspector general came out with a report saying that the f.b.i. had to use national security letters we've had similar suggestions from members of both parties from the senate intelligence committee which has access to classified

briefings about what's going on and so the best way to ensure that things are actually going to be done properly is probably a lot of sunlight and a lot of public scrutiny of what's going on. declan mccullagh chief political correspondent for c.n.n. that's going to do it for us this week but be sure to ring next week for a brand new lineup first up clashes between police and protesters are heating up in montreal was first described as a student strike is moving into the realm of citizen revolt and mavin make the makings of a maple spring one hundred two days into the protests rallies are still holding strong all this in protest of tuitions hikes across the country all this comes just days after local stories passed emergency measures that would shut down some of the universities and impose harsh fines on protesters even blocking students from attending classes and this is an attempt to curb the unrest and cut the protesters off at their source mexico bringing the very latest from those protests. and next step you heard us talking

a lot today about the recall wisconsin recall vote and how important this moment is both to union workers as well as lawmakers across the country it's also a big litmus test about where the people stand heading into the two thousand and twelve elections and whether big movements or going to trump big money will continue following the developments out of the state next week and last but not least it's a meeting of the world's foremost economic and political minds and something they don't want you to know about i'm talking of course about the annual build a bird conference for years the details of this meeting have been shrouded in secrecy we don't even know who attends but what we do know is that several very important pieces of legislation have been traced back to this group things that affect you and i so don't we have a right to know what exactly is going on there well next week we'll take you to the building berg group's book of secrets and open them up and i will be there in virginia all week and weekend covering the build a bird conference and reporting back those are just a few of the stories we have in store for you next week along with more news and

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