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you or your media. tonight on our t.v.'s cyber world is getting smaller as congress tries to rein in the wild west ways of the internet with so many acronyms it's no wonder people are confused coming up i'll tell you why you should pay attention to all the legislation so it shows that this sort of turning a country that is of the people by the people for the people they're turning it into a country that is bought and paid for by corporations it's total recall wisconsin edition for only the third time in u.s. history a recall election against a sitting governor is just a few days away protesters are using slogans as weapons while corporations are pumping millions of dollars to get their way we'll bring you a preview. and forget the freemasons today's secret society of the world's movers
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and shakers known as builder berg is meeting right now not far from washington d.c. so why does this shadowy leak group insist on shutting out the world from its meetings and why isn't the media covering at. is on the case. it's thursday may thirty first eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching. lawmakers today discussing a bill that would extend the government's overseas surveillance powers the measure is called slice and it gives the government the power to monitor phone calls e-mails and other communications of suspected terrorists abroad it was a hot topic back in two thousand and eight critics argued it could be used to target american citizens the debate today is over whether fice of powers should be renewed beyond fire so we've already seen several bills in. regulating the internet
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at least to some degree there was the stop online piracy act better known as sopa and its partner the i t act they protect ip act and its brother peppa these cyber intelligence sharing and protection act known as cispa the surveillance bill i just mentioned and the cyber security act of two thousand and twelve so it seems there is a clear attempt time and time again to regulate the wild west that is the internet now the senate is soon expected to vote on the controversial cispa bill backers say it's necessary to ensure cyber security but critics say this is a dangerous bill that would wipe out the internet internet freedoms that is as we know it senator ron wyden gave this morning on the house floor it creates uncertainty in place of trust in a rote erode statutory and constitutional civil rights protections and it creates a surveillance regime in place of
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a targeted nubile cyber security program that is leading to truly protect our nation. this fight these warnings it seems a possible threat to our online freedoms is largely ignored or accepted by most people but with so much of our lives being conducted on line why aren't people more bothered to discuss this and more i was joined by rob biscuits are managing editor of boing boing here is his take on the cyber cyber bills. i think the problem is that all of these different bills try to tackle the problem of a internet which is seen as being the wild west as you put it but the problem with these kind of problem solving is in government is it's too easy for these bills to be co-opted by commercial interests by because the interests of the intelligence services who would like more expensive access to personal communications to solve
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their own problems and we end up with these extremely they expansive broadly wooded bills which threaten individual privacy or the or even the commercial well being of small businesses and so rob as a member of the internet community how would legislation like this spot impact you and what fear do you have that this could have on the internet if these bells pass well there are those the first thing to acknowledge is that there are big differences between bills like cispa which was recently passed by the house of representatives and bills like soap which is the one that we took our site down to protest what is so poor went off to businesses like ours in principle goes off to individuals in this far as it allows companies to ship personal data with the government without any kind of liability or or any or any way even for people to know what's being said about them so the main consequence of cispa is a as it was described by the electronic frontier foundation it's the end of
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meaningful prissie for anyone who has personal data stored with u.s. based services. and so would you say that that's why there has been more of a backlash against so. and not necessarily the same to to the same extent. show sopa was a direct attack on american businesses companies like from facebook reddit boring boring all of us agreed that there were horrible things wrong with this bill that could us and. the problem with cisco is that because it doesn't directly attack technology services and in fact it makes life easy if the some of them it's been it's taken longer for there to be a grassroots opposition against this but that opposition has come up and as time has gone by i think a lot of sites even sites which which would benefit from suspend their operations and how they deal with government have come to realize that it's very important to oppose it so isn't there isn't this corporate backlash against spy like we saw
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against. danger that. though and there could be harmful aspects to it that it could kind of slip under the radar well it kind of has slipped under the radar because it's already passed in the house of representatives and we're at the point now where the u.s. senate will be formulating its own version of the bill this may. fortunately the white house has already indicated that it doesn't like the bill and his first interview to it and the good part of that is it means that if anything happens in the senate it's more likely to take into account some of the substantive objections that civil liberties advocates sort of made to the original bill i mean one thing that happened with sr is that even though it had the longest station process republicans in the house brought forward the vote by a day at the last moment to ensure that it would pass and that's when she was like
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that happen which i think really tipped the hat and show people what you know what the negative consequences are of letting bills like this pass now rob what kind of steps has your company taken are are you willing to take to speak out against this attack on the internet how far are you willing to go. well all we can do is inform the public and former readers the best methods that they can take to oppose it and that goes from the traditional traditional methods like writing to your senator raising hell with all your friends on social networks to taking a more active role you can donate to various charities online. or otherwise make your voice heard. you know when it comes we did see this backlash as we were talking about earlier when it came to so it was representative mar smith he was a representative from texas he was the one that author in this bell but you know it
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angered many people yet it was just this week that he was essentially reelected so what happens if you do american people for gad what they were angry about. it's just relentless as soon as one of these bills is gotten rid of something new comes from another direction like i said it's very different to soper and people in certain respects in that it targets different things its methods and its kind of enforcement regimes are all very different but this so expensive that they always seem to have the same effect which is they threaten constitutional rights for example. people for oh a constitutional rights is a website to be able to publish what we please and not have to betray our users to the security services whereas sr is more direct and means that internet service providers like comcast in arisan will be able to share personal information with the security services on request and rob you know backers and there are many
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backers of these cyber security bills say that cyber security is a huge deal you know we have the threat of hacktivists not only within our own country. cyber cyber that terrorism as it's hyped up so that the argument there is that something needs to be done to put safeguards in place to protect the american people from these attacks what do you say to that. well that's the thing this that we describe these threats in such vague terms and the same is true if the law system needs more precise definitions it needs explicit protections for constitutional rights needs fundamental clarity about who it's end up like you mention domestic activists but when the bill sponsors russ they talk about china or russia so who are these bills aimed at what are they going to do when it comes down to specific measures taken against them for example if you actually read the
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bill it's full of very vague definitions about things like cyber threat information and cyber security systems it sounds like a cheesy one nine hundred ninety s. b. movie why don't they define these terms more explicitly in fact a really good example was the original version of the bill targeted intellectual property and that's what kind of raised difference hackles off to the whole sopa fiasco and when they were to define very precisely what they meant by intellectual property instead of doing so they simply removed those positions those provisions from the bill and that you get to that point with these things where if people would rather not talk about what they what they mean it looks like they really intend to try to really intend to reintroduce it later rather than rude so. very interesting thank you very much for coming on the show today that was rob diskettes a managing editor of bling bling thank you. another fight against internet regulation an update now into what's being called one of the biggest copyright
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infringement cases in history might upload and its founder kim dotcom has taken steps to throw out the case the company is accused of getting rich off the massive piracy of copyrighted movies and t.v. shows costing the movie industry over five hundred million dollars and lost profits but the defense is now arguing that megaupload can't be held liable for copyright infringement by its users they also say the u.s. simply has no jurisdiction over this case and it's. a foreign company based in hong kong and megaupload says the u.s. should have known that basic facts before taking down the service and there were in the operators in jail the u.s. government is now trying to extradite dot com and the other defendants to stand trial which in their fighting will keep you updated on how this all plays out what's in just a few days a statewide election will take place that may set the stage for not only the november presidential election but for the future of politics overall last year
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governor scott walker took on unions in the rights of workers to collectively bargain then those workers fought back and took on scott walker's right to have his job to correspondent christine will be heading to wisconsin in a few days to cover that election but before she goes she reminds us why what happens there is so important. all eyes are on wisconsin a crystal ball of sorts they could predict the future of workers' rights in america . on one side governor scott walker who had a three billion dollar hole in his state budget and decided to plug it in part by taking on unions and taking away collective bargaining rights for workers this is alternately about a commitment to the future so our children don't face even more dire consequences than what we face today but fourteen state senators all democrats fled the state in an attempt to block the measure meanwhile chaos erupted in the state capitol.
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and protesters remained for four months sparking a larger discussion about inequality and the power of corporations but we're here because a wall street reckless gambling angry ok that is why we're all here people are suffering. recalls scott walker organizers collected nine hundred thousand signatures and when you take on main street and you take on the basic rights and values of everyday americans whether they be in wisconsin ohio florida or what have you there we're going to stand up and we're going to say enough is enough union leaders have been on the forefront of the recall effort and are working to raise money for walker's opponent milwaukee mayor tom barrett so far his campaign has raised about three point nine million dollars it's a sharp contrast to walker himself who's brought in more than thirty million dollars the majority of it coming in from outside of the state and it's the koch
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brothers funded americans for prosperity it's the republican governors association dumping tons of cash and then basically every bar conservative billionaire from the country is dumping boatloads of money into this thing tuesday's election is much more than about the fate of scott walker it's also about governors in states across this country. who also wish to limit the role of unions and in turn the rights of workers and it's also about those unions and the strength and power they have today and finally it's about money and its ability to control a message and have an impact on what voters decide at the polls in washington christine. are to. the chamber of commerce getting creative at evading campaign ad laws earlier this year a federal court ruling was geared toward revealing who the donors are behind political political interest groups but the chamber said this week that they can
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get around this by clearly supporting one candidate over the other that way they don't have to dish the dirt on who the donors are so why are these groups going to such great lengths to hide where they're getting their cash from and why such a strong fight against disclosure and transparency for more and that i was joined by chris chambers journalism professor at georgetown university we first discussed if their recent evasion of campaign laws is another win for corporations. that's a draw i mean you know people who are look who are advocating more transparency of obviously gone into the court system because the congress is not you know obviously hospitable place for that given the amount of money that these same sort of people are backing especially in the house of representatives with the recent republican freshman that came in in two thousand and ten so it's a draw right now it's a draw i would say a win for anybody but it looks like another loophole that i have found. as much money as they won the mark and of you know fund run campaigns kind of in the
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background well it's an interesting dynamic because you know you have you have the federal election commission. in this you have the federal communications commission involved in this you have super pacs which are actually exempt from all of this stuff i mean they're out there like another supernova waiting to explode that we have to keep an eye on but these are just you know you're run of the mill garden variety political ads and you know it's interesting why they do not want these things disclosed i mean it's the same argument that we talked about before when the f.c.c. said put your campaign ad stuff out there in digitally rather than in a rusty cabinet underneath the receptionist office that is the average t.v. station and they oppose that as if people were going to nationalize it you know take over their companies i think it's because you know they really perceive that
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they're under siege for some reason that summary for some way some reason so but how someone you know malevolent is going to come down and take all their money away because it other than that which sounds ridiculous obviously but what other explanation is there is that they don't want to be told what to do i mean internally they're having a fight over this because you know you have stockholders shareholder groups which are supposedly for. enterprise the thing that they push you know as a religion at work you know they're owners of the company they get to have a say well these people are presenting ballot questions proxy questions to their boards everybody from wal-mart over the mexico scandal to news corp and rupert murdoch's problems and said look we need we need to have a different direction we want to have environmental sanity we want to do this we want to do that we want to get out of alec which you know wal-mart just left today and now they're complaining about that too so i mean it really just comes down to
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control maybe just psychological control they don't want to be told what to do in the case of the chamber of commerce they claim to be not a political organization right but in this case and it's interesting the way that they're going about it because instead. of having these ads target issues now they're saying in order to get around this we're going to we're going to support clearly is a poor one candidate over the other so isn't that clearly a political yes it was clearly political a political before and the reason why this kind of regime was was set up this advertising regime both the way the dollars are funneled in you know which has which the f.e.c. f.t.c. is involved in and how it ends up on a mass media which is what the f.c.c. is involved in was because they really wanted to keep the donors anonymous and they cause they had an agenda now it's just going to be moving away from issues to the
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actual candidates well as it was about the actual candidates to begin with it was about who we're going to root for who we're going to pull for the issue orientation of this was just a reaction to the regulation now it's we have another evolution in another reaction so now they're just going to support whichever person they were going to support in the first place that's where they can do it outwardly and still hide who who the donors are because you know they don't want i mean imagine this i mean not to. internally with shareholders you might be upset i was a general counsel to a bank here in washington before i became a journalist and i know how that is when swing shareholders are upset and they want to press their issues but that's part of our capitalist system that they say that they want to preserve supposedly from candidates that they hate now they want to you know fight back on two fronts it's very very interesting and all i can do is look at it and come to the conclusion that it's about control they don't want to be told what to do so it sounds like shareholders are more important than transparency
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and that was shareholders that go with what they want to do there you go. you know chris this is a little election year is supposed to be the most expensive costly election in history. the super pac then and how they're kind of playing into the mix now we have this other loophole i mean is this all just another sign that the elections have already been bought and sold oh of course i mean i think they were bought and sold back when justice roberts wrote the citizens united opinion but even before that i mean we saw just money just pouring into this and it was usually by people on the right wing the conservatives sort of now even almost extremist right wing situations i mean there are billionaires meeting now and there's a story in political recently how they're sitting there going oh my gosh you know stop picking on us stop picking on us for being picked on for trying to buy an
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election. to laugh a little bit about but you know they really really feel be set and attacked for this and again it seems to just come back to perceived loss of power and control to whom i don't know but there's no other explanation for this so at the end do you think that the you know the average voter the average citizen is kind of kind of losing his power and. the power of money oh yeah definitely democracy is because been bought and paid for now i mean now it's just in your face it was always under the table probably for the last maybe seventy five hundred years it was deep under the table now it's up there for everybody to see so you know we have a problem here and i don't think the f.c.c. or the f.c.c. or anyone to even internally in these companies with these kind of stockholder proxy questions are really going to be able to reform that i think it's too late the monster is out of the cave and we're not going to put it back. pleasure to have
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you on the show q that was christopher chambers a journalism professor at georgetown university. also at an artsy opening up builder bergs book of secrets will senator marco rubio get the republican endorsement to become a romney's running mate and what will happen with the rest of the middle east's rumor has it it's all being decided at a secret conference in a virginia bring you the details next. that a client of american power continues. things are. might actually be time for revolution. and it turns out that a popular drink of starbucks has a surprising him greedy of. r
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t is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old to tell the truth. i'm a confession i am a total get a friend that i love rap and hip hop music and for. that it was kind of a yesterday. i'm very proud of the world with its
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place. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is your view with the global machinery see where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.
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welcome to the capital account i'm mr. secretive and elite the builder but builder burr group unites the world's most powerful people behind closed doors it's been happening for decades and this year it's and chantilly. and yet the secrecy surrounding the conference has sparked many theories as to what exactly goes on in the meetings some even believe it's a venue where the world's most wretched and powerful conspire to carve out a new world order are its correspondent abbie mari martin was in chantilly virginia today to let us know what's happening outside of the builder burg conference. oh every year about one hundred thirty of the world's most powerful elite players in banking mining oil food media and defense and politics meet in secret behind
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closed doors without any official press coverage this year they're meeting in chantilly virginia at the westfields mary out it's called the builder group and hundreds of protesters are here right now protesting the secrecy for for. some of the protesters speculate on why it's so secret when you're discussing foreign policy you're you're talking about manipulating the prices of oil the price of gold when you're trying to select presidents and prime ministers and these sorts of things it has to be done in secret because these are the things that the people are not necessarily for even though no corporate media was present there was a multitude of citizen journalists covering the event good works are done in light so it's done in darkness needs to be brought to light and something like this like the billboard media should be exposed and it's up to us citizen media to be our and expose as they don't want you to believe oh is that what it is other independent journalists have confronted members of the builder group to try to get answers themselves sometimes they just straight up blogs sometimes they catch themselves in
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line and it's very interesting it's very telling people can make up their own minds when you see a building member being fronted by a journalist about what they did here their reaction is very telling i have looks jones host of the alex jones show speculates on the policy that's being planned to build a big meetings this year they're trying to push a global bank as a solution to all our problems that they created their opening. trying to push more police state systems they want to internet freedom they want to bring in internet i.d.'s members of all of our group of shut this. other say the bill the third group is not so much in a farias conspiracy to control who manatee but just more consolidation of power the actual conspiring is it kind of not a nature of there's a conspiracy for this or for that as much as a continuous nature of the superclass of the most rich and powerful people in the world colluding to continue and perpetuate their own power i mean the simple is
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that regardless more and more people are focusing attention on the group which might have to build a bridge participants worried the people of the planet are waking up and getting past the puppets this is about saying hey the puppets in d.c. are just front man we can't hold them accountable because they're bought and paid for by these criminals that at these meetings by a mob it should be an interesting weekend as hundreds of protesters are expected to join those already here abby martin r.t.t. chantilly virginia. that's going to do it for the news for tonight but stick around the big picture with tom hartman is coming up at the top of the hour this morning the first circuit court of appeals ruled that the defense of marriage act which denies same sex couples federal benefits is unconstitutional and essence limiting marriage to between man and woman is considered discrimination the people fighting against same sex marriage say the bible bans it and one kansas baptist pastor went as far as to say that gays and lesbians should be put to death because that's what
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the bible says but what if we went by everything the bible said that and women who are not virgins would be stoned or in clothing made of two types of fabric would be a no no and rape would constitute a traditional marriage tonight tom hartman will debate the rights and wrongs of using the bible to dictate law with his panel of experts for more of the stories we covered you can go to youtube dot com slash artsy america or check out our website it's r t dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter at liz wall for now have a great night. very good. luck and be alone until you get the real headlines with none of them are the problem with the main three media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it were.
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