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a day. it's really bad news for president obama's reelection efforts monthly unemployment numbers in america jumping for the first time in about a year rising to eight point two percent topping the news today as the american economy takes another dive the mainstream media and politicians on both sides are spinning the latest jobs numbers in their favor so no surprise there but what does this really mean for president obama and for your wallet. plus it appears the olympic games are happening right here in the u.s. and the obama administration is getting a gold medal in cyber espionage it's a series of sophisticated cyber attacks targeting among other things iran's nuclear program could this be a declaration of war. and shedding light on the ever elusive builder group right now a hop skip and a jump away from washington d.c.
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the world's movers and shakers are meeting in secret. abby martin is live on scene to show us what's been happening today. well it is friday june first five pm in washington d.c. my name is christine and you're watching our team all right folks it's the first of june it's also the start of hurricane season well guess what it appears that first storm is already here it arrived in the form of today's jobs numbers and to say the least they are not good according to the labor department u.s. employers created just sixty nine thousand new jobs in the month of may that is less than half of what was anticipated but you cannot make analysts and the worst level of job creation in more than a year and for the first time in eleven months the unemployment rate actually went
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up it rose to eight point two percent from eight point one percent and that's not all the u.s. labor department. also revised to the numbers for march and april and determine that hiring in those months was actually lower than previously reported so we want to take this in the next level and talk about all of this and some of the implications of what these numbers mean economically and politically and joining us now is roland a more executive director of oppenheimer roland let's talk about these numbers let's break them down what's the story behind the numbers you know the story is not a single story it's a continuing story for the last three and a half years as we were into the reception recession in two years ago of course we came up but there's been no real progress you know in the last sixty years we've had four major recessions this recession has had the weakest or most anemic growth in terms of g.d.p. in terms of employment than all of them before i mean we're at half the rate i mean
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it's been weak it's been anemic but for eleven months in a row the unemployment rate went down new jobs are continually created well you've got to remember you need ninety thousand jobs or hundred thousand jobs every month just to keep pace with the population growth so if you don't get that many you're actually losing grubb you've got to remember the unemployment number is a relative a son that's the number you see what happens is people who go on unemployment get surveyed did they check the boxes from an employer when they stop looking for a job through no longer and so in the past year that's really what we've seen where people have just given up looking you know yeah i mean i think the on official rate or the amount of the population which is not employed that would like to be is probably closer to nineteen eighteen percent i've heard those numbers as well i do want to put up because we like to look at this from all angles and also i want to put up another interpretation of these numbers the story they might be telling this is a former employer employee of goldman fact he predicts that we're about to see the
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quote biggest banking crisis in history i'm going to put out this this chart on ours. screen if you take a look the line shows the percentage of the u.s. population that's employed and that goes through the first half of this year now mr paul spoke about his findings in a presentation called the end game and basically says there is no longer an engine of growth that all the major world economies seem to be stalling at once. it's kind of frightening when you take a look at this do you do you agree or agree it's frightening it's not surprising over let's look at what the major economies are doing in the u.s. in europe the theme has been consistent let's raise taxes and let's keep on spending we've actually gotten to the point we've gotten to the tipping point and done you more of everything's going to fall apart that's what's happening we need a different type of policy yes we have to cut spending we kill beyond our means but
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we can't choke the the investors the businesses that make jobs that they create the capital or in our in our country we can't keep punishing them because they're punishing so what do you think is more money need to be printed oh no absolutely not what we need to do is get out of the way of business you know in the last three and a half years taxes have been raised regulations have grown exponentially at a rate we've never seen before in which it does it's killed the economy just go back to the one nine hundred eighty will we have a recession that was just as bad when they do they cut taxes they cut regulations so that all thirty years thirty years of global growth that we have never seen before do we all have amnesia yeah but you're saying that that you know by changing the course here that that means the job creators are going to start you know opening factories i mean that there have been you know things done to try to give some of these corporations a break i mean look at our largest corporations in this country they don't pay taxes and yet they're not creating more jobs they're just getting ready for people
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and their profits some of the biggest profit makers in this country the oil companies for example their profit. keep growing ok you know first of all eighty percent of the job and eighty percent of the economy is not created by the big corporations the big corporations are international they're not us anymore eighty percent of the jobs in this country and the g.d.p. growth comes from mom and pop the people who run the businesses up to one hundred employees or three or four hundred we are punishing them there has been a so in what ways are they being honest what are some reading of the barriers they want ok well first of all regulation the regulation has been smother look at health care that alone is is worth at least one third of all the problems ok and then they've had wardak so they should have to not we should say is the government you don't have to provide health care for your employees that's not in the know what we've done is we've basically nationalized health care we've increased it's cost it's not that that's the bottom line and they can't afford it i can't afford it you
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can't afford it i mean so there's not more because you know there's a lot of i mean there's a million reasons i'm sure why health care and health care costs increase but between you know pharmaceutical companies between health care being so much more expensive in this country than other countries how do you bring the cost of health care down the privatized. you don't let the government run it you do it the way every single industry that's finally had a rebirth in this world since time immemorial almost they've privatized the english which has all single payer system you know they're actually going to start privatizing it to cut costs it never fails but then again we always forget about the good things and we always put in the elements that don't work i don't get it well we're not the only people that do this certainly if we take a look at the mainstream media and they like to do this a lot it's always fun on jobs numbers days to kind of look at the different ways that some of the different media outlets interpret what the numbers mean and so we did a little experiment we went on
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a couple different websites just to see the different ways that they're sort of showing the meaning of these numbers so i want to put a couple up let's start with fox news they have a very large headline on their web site it says does another month of distress in economic news put the obama campaign on the clock that's a very large banner front and center on their web site let's go over to m s n b c news and here's their take it says the global economic woes appear to ensnare the u.s. at the medium size headline and i see him and he actually didn't have anything then about the jobs numbers because the george zimmerman news had just come through that he may have to go to jail so what do you think what do you think this was a political filter to take the filter away look at the reality look at g.d.p. growth look at unemployment look at look at what's happening in the reality it's very hard you know we get into the silly season now in seven eight months we're going to elect have a presidential election five months there's been a wild time and any way you believe it anyway my point is you're looking at political through
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a political lens take that away look at it realistically and that's really we have to see an economy that's struggling to realize in one thousand nine hundred two at this point or even earlier in the recovery the g.d.p. growth was eight percent. one and a half percent last quarter here. there's something wrong with the economy take the politics away the politics aren't making it better and they're not making it worse we need a better course to go on we can take the politics away but certainly the jobs numbers the way people are feeling about the economy has a reflection on it what they're what they're going to vote who they're going to vote for do you think president obama is in trouble. you know i don't make political prognosticator but i do believe one thing every presidential election or for an incumbent is really a referendum on the presidency that necessarily a choice between two candidates and i think history has shown that if it's really
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a referendum would suit the american people say what do you think i mean do you expect that we will continue to see the unemployment rate go up in the next few months i know you don't. you know you know what no i don't know if it's going to go up i mean it's that are you asking is going to get a lot worse probably not is a bigger lot better i don't think so we have fundamental structural problems that need to be fixed tell those are changes that are to say that anything in any director was going to move you know europe over the last sixty years is you have to grow through the u.s. now that we're like them maybe we're in this new new new or the new now is going to be this have growth in high unemployment rate i mean we were imitating them and then they're this spend their spare their which they spend and so forth certainly is interesting to look at it from as many different perspectives as possible having you on the show roland amaury thanks so much and good. well we already know there's a whole lot of things discussed within the walls of the white house that we don't
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know about but it seems there are a series of secret wars being waged as part of a program started by president george w. bush and continue to with vigor by president obama it's called the olympic games and one example of this came in the form of a cyber worm that outsiders actually referred to as stocks net this was sent in to iran a couple years ago to disrupt certain aspects of their nuclear program well it turns out the u.s. and israel were behind that they developed it and carried out the attack are you surprised well you shouldn't be because we've been telling you this for about for more than a year now but now david sanger of the new york times is saying it as well in this article it was published today it says it appears to be the first time the united states has repeatedly used to cyber weapons to cripple another country's infrastructure achieving with computer code what until then could be accomplished only by bombing a country or sending agents in to plant explosives so we want to talk about not just the cyber attacks but also about the message that we've been hearing from
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those on the inside a message very different it turns out from what's actually been happening let's go now to brown founder of project pm and one of our cyber experts and they're very i guess let me first get your reaction to the news that the u.s. government has been behind several cyber attacks including stocks that. well this is one of those things that was very widely considered to be the case ever since stuxnet appeared as a dinner party pursuing a similar situation with the new flame whereby it's already being out of the size that you know this is probably another u.s. oriented building things like this obviously are a long time coming and there's going to be arguments reasonable arguments in favor of them and so much is that what we're seeing obviously is a new means of warfare that doesn't involve violence that have exploding. and of course it's hard to get excited you know it's hard to get upset about liberal marks like us taking out new buildings of what's essentially still the arcee of iran
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the problem is that this is just one aspect of the cyber capabilities that are being sought and developed not just by the u.s. with its own internal mechanisms but also by a number of parties outside number of contractors for instance and of course other states that are a little less straightforward than something like this week is checking out you can a machine or. what i want to play something to for you this is an interview in july of last year this is one of our correspondents interviewing eugene kaspersky a security software model let's take a lock. our cyber war it's between nations like a reality already and we don't know about that. we have just one incident and are of this information from well i personally have this information from two sources for so called first of all. money should support the virus itself and from the news
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because of the secret services or nuclear power plants people didn't report me so then from the court i see that these since this is a very complicated the way it is just a key to the money issue. that's a very big project there was i think there was a group of high end experts who designed that so back then it was high and experts who designed it and now it's confirmed that it was in fact the us and israel do you think this will have an impact on future attacks well the fact that it seems to have. backed you know what they wanted i think that while the. other actors in the us as well continue with the sense of attacks. you know and that's again that's something that was inevitable when to the extent every other individual go through a cyberspace and you have. you know zero day all these other sort of now where
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about which to argue another point i mean it was even something that's hard for someone like me to criticize when the u.s. does it it's only fair that they be able to again though. that one of the problems here even with these kind of conventional straightforward attacks is that it brokered the act of war there from the citizenry as in these kind of things robert covert whereby you have a certain government you know little martyrs. you know waging a certain kind of war get those governments and then the citizenry for has some sort of guess as to what's happening and then eventually years later will be confirmed. washington post when certain sources inside of time the environment you know and that's and that's something that well we need already we have a situation which war is no longer required by the u.s. you already have the executive branch sort of taking that it's all part and of
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course the long history of the u.s. the other countries waging forms of war and its latest on fashion as well more conventional war with a sort of adds to what's already problem with. a government that draws its. official dominant power of allegedly from the mystery it's annoying to act in ways that you know are actually only decided by a. source i think that's a really important point you know certainly things are changing immensely when we talk about these wars it you know before it was always face to face it was men on the ground boots on the ground combat now we see more and more you know people using remote controls they're using drones to kill hundreds of people at one time but they don't have to deal you know sort of with the impact of a to see it firsthand because it's being done you know thousands of miles away and to an extent the same thing can be said about this cyber warfare as something that was interesting to me though is you know based on what many of our leaders have been telling us you know we should be afraid of other countries doing this to us
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but let me play a few examples here. a weapon of mass disruption you could have a cyber attack that would be as consequential in terms of the economy maybe even in terms of loss of life as things we typically use are said with more friends next pearl harbor that we confront could very well be a cyber attack that cripples our our power system certainly our grid acts of terror could come not only from a few extremists in suicide vests but from a few keystrokes on the computer so barry you said a few minutes ago it's hard to criticize the government for doing that that they should be able to but it isn't hard for me to say isn't this a little bit you know hypocritical to to look at the government constantly telling us we need more cyber security laws we need more cyber security funding because we need to protect the u.s. and yet they're the ones that are going out and doing this in other countries. well you know i mean most people in that clip so you just killed our suppliers their
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public service i mean that's just part of the course. there is a legitimate threat in a legitimate i would say. recourse that the u.s. has to engage in either the china or you know the other works governments that do still exist. having said that i mean this this this whole thing with the straightforward facts of the sort are again one issues that is going to come to the forefront is going to be why we discussed where at the same time there are other capabilities that have more to do with more surveillance and also with propaganda and manipulation that that are slowly being developed that are sort of you know among the government so machinery but also outsiders contracted by the governments which are far more concerning to me partly because they're also very in a tactical their. their designs noted to be able to be used without any one thing that was are and there's they tend to strike not at infrastructure but information
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to ways to undermine proper information or to sort of to try to strangle this prevent certain ways and we've seen examples very early examples of what this will consist of you know most of the h.p. gary e-mails which which eventually led to discover. is using these sort of management devices. in the for the of course the u.s. government claimed they would never use that on u.s. citizens be illegal the same time we don't need to look far for an. overreach and certainly where the thing we're seeing right now both in congress with this asking for more funding and in the courts with the with the executive branch asking for more protection saying they shouldn't have to abide by these rules because what they've done and what they're doing is in the name of national security and they're brown proud founder of private pm always good to have you on the show. well if you're anything like me you're connected during most hours of the day whether it's
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email twitter or facebook i'm often connecting to people especially those who live far away via social media but also want to people are actually changing their attitude deciding you know what i don't care what my third grade best friend had for breakfast today or her friends with a resident or take a look at best and ask people in the streets of new york city if their appetite for social media is twenty ling. social media websites have been making headlines for years is the craze coming to an end any time soon this week let's talk about that do you use social media i used to actually just lead in my facebook why is getting tired of it tired of trying to keep up with everyone do you think of the world is getting a little bit over social media yeah a little bit yeah you know when mom start using social media time to go my grandma is actually using it do you use no why not because i don't like being tried on like
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the like putting too much of my personal information on this kind of social network from very very you assume i love you one provision was like linked in but the public ones like to be very specific to you some people put a little too much information on there i think yeah why do we care about what people eat and what they're doing every second of every meal you know but it's a good way to keep in touch with people too so what about the phone what about you know going over to your neighbor's house and saying ha exactly i think people are getting away from that and it's too easy to just do it online i think there's a lot of good uses for there are some uses we found in the school system not so good like what some of the boy you know goes on and i think is too many young people are kind of think what's the big deal of give somebody a threat over there where i've seen police officers get involved with kids to do those kinds of things because it's a threat whether it's on facebook or in person so do you think that social me. it's going to change to be a little bit safer or is it just going to get where i think it needs to change and
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i think it takes everybody to get more with that to understand if you actually do social media strategy for a job yes so your life depends on social media a little bit i do other things as well but it's one of the yes he use it every day in your personal life i do one reason i think that i'm decent at social media strategy is because i am a little bit sick of it so it has to be really good right like i mean it's just seems to be so omnipresent now that i think there's something bigger and greater and better is going to come about. yet the second coming of jesus is going to come through social media and that's worth his twitter that's need to be part of jesus's twitter i'm sure he has right right right exactly so do you think the social media craze is coming to an end why don't you tweet about it and see if anyone cares. all right we want to go now to a story that we've been covering for quite a while now actually one of our regular guests alex jones has been covering it for
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more than five years i'm talking about the builder bird conference the meeting of bankers and billionaires that kept secret totally secret for years that sort of under the radar and now it's a little more well known there are actually mainstream publications that have been writing about this you see politico salon huffington post the guardian they've now been writing about some of these have these headlines that does actually exist and we have someone on the ground there as well so let's go to our correspondent abbi martin she is live in chantilly virginia outside of the hotel where the conference is being held. and now i guess the rain is back to talk to me a little bit about what you're seeing today on this day i have the bankers in the billionaire's they arrived already. well actually someone saw kissinger self yesterday arrive there have been people arriving all day there are multiple politicians on line already. coming into the conference severe thunderstorms right
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now so it's a little bit pens out here kind of pushed some of the protesters back but our team is out here on the ground like we are at all these places the mainstream media is nowhere to be found though however but we are still here reporting there are hundreds of people here earlier a couple of them of the first right now but there's expected to be hundreds if not thousands to borrow as it becomes more sunny in the weather turns better so there's no sign of any sort of mainstream media outlets there so why do you think that is going on. well you know when there's corporate media moguls who are actually involved in the conference and there are a supposedly for the secrecy we have a reporter to quote from rockefeller himself which is on the steering committee of the build a bird group saying that these media moguls they hand selected every year to come to the conference they don't want them to be they want to be a stretch unary with this information and you know the corporate c.e.o.'s of these years were bracing for intricately involved with all of us being planned and with
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the people who are clear going together so that's why people are here protesting about one hundred forty of the world's most elite voyles the politicians banking and defense all together in chantilly virginia right now in the westfield mary out behind me you do not see the corporate press here covering it why is that i mean you have to ask yourself why is that you know what i mean break down for us a little bit of what you know what you can tell us about build a bridge i know it's not in chantilly every year it sort of switches locations you know just kind of give us the nuts and bolts how long this has been going on and sort of the evolution that it's taken on over the years in terms of coming out of the shadows. sure started in one nine hundred fifty four at hotel bird build a bird in the netherlands and ever since then annually every year hundred forty of the world's most people in all these industries have been eating in different locations around the world and that's why it's so hard to follow them very secret
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very under wraps behind closed doors and just recently i mean as you said in your intro just recently this year we the corporate media that was at least pointed in the headlines saying that there's this is this i mean before you don't even hear a peep about it even existing we hear nato going on g eight all these world summits of all these leaders at the build of our group is completely under the wraps and so that's why people have been following them every year citizen journalism people like jim parker alex jones others that israel has been following these people and chasing them down all around the world trying to find out what really goes on in these meetings and why is it so secret and why is it that there are protesters out there abbi i mean i know there were a bunch out there yesterday we spoke to you earlier you said there's even been arrests why don't people care that this secret meeting goes on. i think people care because it's cold because being planned it affects the rest of the world i mean every year that this happens there's
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a policy that happens after that people speculate that this was the plan in the bill the bird meeting i mean we saw in two thousand it when the builder meeting was here a chance for the last time obama started to stress for a way in a different plane met with hillary at an undisclosed meeting all weekend in virginia i mean and then you saw her in a high level cabinet position in his government also speculated john edwards was picked to be the v.p. running mate in two thousand for it bill the birds earth american union the euro all these different elements of policy people have speculated have come out of the bill burton mean hundred thirty the world's most powerful people don't just get together to just talk about forests and whatever else and american idol i mean they're getting here to get their to talk about policy it's going to affect the world and also protesters are here mainly protesting what they calls a violation of federal law it's something called the logan act where foreign diplomats are not supposed to get together with politicians to collude about russian oversight and that's really i think the main crux of why people are upset
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because there are politicians with foreign diplomats talking about who knows what we don't know but it is our own you know privy to information as far as choosing you know if i just as far as choosing vice presidential candidates and you know like who's going to be on who's cabinet where do some of those protesters think that this should be happening i mean it doesn't there's no law that says it needs to happen you know in the capitol building you know i'm sure it happens at fancy restaurants as well bit but what's really wrong with some of these decisions being made there. well christine i think it goes beyond just talking about you know like a boys' club like oh you know the i want to be my running mate i think it goes beyond that because when you look at rockefeller's memoir he says you know and he's on the steering committee of a builder group that picks these people every year that the shining stars of the belief that they can pick the tons of these meetings they're different every year but what he said was that if people accuse him and his family of running a secret cabal against the american interests then he stands guilty any proud of it
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i mean so you have to look at quotes like that from the people who are actually in the hearing committee of this group as so what else is going on it's not just v.p. running mates it's not just politicians talking about hey maybe you can have a seat in my cabinet it's actual policy that they say the protesters here say subjugate humanity talking about how to control occupy wall street talked about how to control the arab spring talking about one of the one world government these are the things that are really important that they say is being talked about right here behind closed doors well added we sure do appreciate you standing in the rain forest kind of sniffing out what's going on talking to the protesters it's good that finally some media are giving this attention if nothing else acknowledging hey this is actually happening even if we can't get inside abby martin our to correspondent there for us in chantilly virginia one that's going to do it for us but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash archie.

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