the british foreign secretary calling for intervention we've seen the new french president saying the same thing the americans obviously taking the lead the specter of a military solution has returned after the syrian regime was condemned internationally for the deaths of one hundred eight people half of whom were children before an investigation into who was responsible was even launched they're all saying that their side regime is committing human rights abuses and they repeat this message obsessive i am confident to predict that indeed it will remain fixed in people's minds and could well be used as a pretext and you don't have to look back to far to see where hasty jokingly so i rushed to take up arms at the cost of war and nine it's exactly what happened in our division of a massacre which was the village of russia you have if you were in korea that was severely bullied by the u.s. ambassador it was leaving your observation mission on the ground your claims that it was a brutal manner on programs occur of innocent civilians by government troops certainly

with blame presented with ultimatum and ramble again and bombed back then the yugoslavian government just like the syrian one now condemned militants for the killings in this case blaming the benon separatists from the cost of a liberation army an investigation was launched to find out whether the victims were innocent civilians as the international community claimed or whether the country's army had been battling professional fighters two out of three forensic inquiries proved most of the casualties died in combat the third report by an e.u. team has never been made public interesting we know about the we have been reports of syrian rebels who are they are liaising with the. think of being in kosovo liberation army the people who were basically agents of mido in the causal war basically treading on i don't know they were saying they were training. democracy

and human rights but the only true way to deliver even anybody is how to. stage a war and i believe that's exactly what's happening now. but even with hindsight after the nato bull we know you can slavia ruin the alliance is a strikes in libya last year history isn't been prevented from repeating itself again and again. when these disturbing images from the syrian village of houla made world headlines everybody agreed those who are guilty must be punished but the reaction from the international community has been so sweet and so called in ated the reason is that punishment will come before even those who are truly responsible are posed and that could mean not just a loss of justice but also huge loss of life reef notion r t moscow now brings apparently eyeing setting up camps in syria reportedly to protect civilians and help rebels fight against the leadership british troops and agents

would be part of an international force including french and turkish soldiers and possibly americans well let's discuss that prospect with mideast blogger calls for roe joining us live from london i think your civil service source is being quoted as saying the u.k. is preparing for the move admitting that it would be an invasion of syria what do you make of this. well i think to reflect on this we have to examine this attitude towards the prospects of foreign intervention in syria by western powers where there's been constant denial about you know that possibility of intervention but always waving sort of the specter of dying that the situation might change and we might get involved and i think this is the heart of the problem is western powers do not have a plan for syria do not have a likely outcome that they want that they would want to encourage and they don't even have an idea about how to progress towards a political resolution so this conflict think actually through it is sort of

relying now on projecting mixed messages that could the importance of signals like this we've seen today is their situation could flip their position could flip abruptly and we might end up seeing some form of military intervention in syria which i always warn would be catastrophic regardless of what's happening now on the ground so the bottom of this is there's a lot of confusion among western powers about what they want to see in syria and how they can actually not interfere in a way that makes the situation worse is that what we're seeing with these camps i mean how would they influence the situation in the country theoretically. well there are various scenarios i mean the scenario that was discussed today was about creating safe havens for refugees but there are also this in ari's of heard before is protecting safe corridors no fly zone all of which will ultimately involve a conflict with the syrian army groups that support the government in syria and

ultimately who knows they might even get into incidents with the rebels themselves it would just kind of completely go out of control so i think again to reemphasize what is needed now is not this kind of urgency and i understand the whole no massacre was really terrible but western leaders shouldn't allow themselves to be dragged into kind of a knee jerk reaction of wanting to interfere over there without actually having a clue or an idea or a plan about what that intervention would mean would mean but the white well in fire are insider also says it would help save three million lives is there any way in your mind that moves like this could prevent another massacre on the contrary i think it would actually increase the likelihood of revenge killings kind of sectarian tension along mixed areas where kind of revenge operations would start to happen and it will suck more and more people in i think syria now it is at

that tipping point where the conflict can be pulled back from a sectarian civil war to kind of some form of political framework but once there is actively groups on the ground in syria and whatever kind of formula they are in there they are likely to increase the prospect of bloodshed what about the legality is setting up camps like this without the approval of the u.n. security council i mean britain must have done it homework here there has to be loopholes. yeah absolutely i mean without the support of at least russia and china and the security council which is not forthcoming they're not likely to have any kind of united nations cover what they're likely to say in such an instance that you know there's a moral principle of humanitarian intervention is i'm that makes them step in and the kind of prevent more bloodshed but i'm afraid that concept and we've seen it practiced over the last twenty years in various degrees and kind of in different

places in the world. kind of misses the point of internal conflicts being in tehran and been nationalized and what is that is effectively what will happen and shared by the fact that they are internationalize specifically without a mandate from the united nations when we need the situation to become more complex and lead to more bloodshed in syria i just finally do you think this move would be publicly announced or be sort of a secret i mean we're covering it but we're not going to see the mainstream media go after this leak no i don't think so and i think it's at that level we've seen that in several several times before not that i want to compare the two situations but before iraq as well there was no leaven kind of leaks that were sometimes highly dubious in nature but they were kind of played as part of the overall projection of over an image of powers that are willing to kind of intervene more aggressively so it's almost like a propaganda war at the moment and know where the knows that there are city of it

but if you go back to libya for example there were instances of operatives on the ground in libya which were denied before so the simple answer is we don't know and it appears to be at the moment part of a more kind of the art or propaganda war but i'm afraid what it tells us is the mindset in western culture is not very good doesn't have a clear plan and any moment which would be really catastrophic middle east blogger call sorow thank you very much for your analysis this hour live from london. coming up a bit later in the program for you the egyptians who want more than life for killing cairo braces for a third day of protest against what demonstrators call or lenient sentence for hosni mubarak and his former right hand man. so i've heard threats hacker attacks and laws officially aiming to tackle internet piracy but in fact infringing people's rights to online privacy it's an

increasingly topical subject in the world's most famous whistleblower is aiming to get to the heart of it in his latest edition of his interview program here on r t julian assange gets together with activists from cypherpunk movement here's a taste of what's to come later on tuesday. technology enables those also variants of every communication then there is due to the other side of that coin is what we do with it we could admit that there are some indeed some legitimate use investigators investigating the bad guys and. bad guys and so on but the question is where to drill these judicial supervision where to go to the control that the citizens can have over the use of this technology this is a police and when we get to this police see shoes and we were looking at the earlier we have. to just sign something and don't understand the underlying technology which is why we see so much hype about cyber war is that some people

that seem to be in the authority about war start talking about technology as if they understand it but they're always talking about war because that's their business and so they're trying to root technology into that and so when we have no control over technology we have these people that wish to use it for for their ends for war specifically that's a recipe for some pretty scary stuff. now we're hearing about one of the cypherpunk activists interviewed by julian assange jeremy zimmerman who was held for questioning upon his return to france apparently the purpose was to fish out information about the wiki leaks founder that's not the first time the program has provoked a rast with a top human rights activist from bahrain detained after talking to us and a month ago. canadian students are back on the streets thousands have marched to montreal two days after talks with the quebec government on tuition fees collapsed student groups are demanding

a freeze on planned increases in higher education costs but authorities have ruled out that possibility protesters are now vowing to renew delhi rallies which last month led to fierce clashes with police and more than two and a half thousand arrest sorties going into can reports what started in february as a student strike has now grown into a popular protest against mirroring the welfare system of canada's southern neighbor. the canadian province of quebec a region that prides itself on free healthcare and affordable education for its residents students here pay a fixed amount for tuition fees around twenty five hundred dollars a year for all of the colleges and universities that's the lowest rate in north america and the taxpayers pick up the rest but that model might change as their government looks sounds they are looking across the borders and seeing what the united states are doing and trying to become closer and closer to what the united

states are working on which is more and more proof is a show that instead of reading your social programs that cover for everybody. tens of thousands spilled onto the streets when the government said they'd be pushing up to ration fees every year and in five years the students of care back will face education costs almost double with their pain. i mean he knows is a student at a montreal university she works part time at a local ice cream shop she says if the people of keg don't stand their ground now in the future higher education just won't be an option for many if it's too expensive for children who may not even think about going to school because it's another world is part of something that's accessible and. not even think about being a doctor or if you know it would be. and what i was saying is so expensive so the people the poor people they want to either have no choice but

going to army for that the prospect of having to join the military to provide for their education is not the only thing about the us example that scares the walk who fund skyrocketing tuition fees americans carry massive student loan debts on their shoulders we need to preserve this and become. what we see growing in the united states right now having a lot of students they are still paying for their university program and when they are seventy years old so we need to make sure that every students will be able to country. or. region and make sure that they have. to start maybe. new and new businesses the rest of north america should be looking to come back as an example of how to mobilize how student association should function through direct democracy and how they should actually organize and challenge these measures and challenge this debt shackle system. to protest clearly signaled the

path that back is willing or rather not willing to take when we look towards the united states we see a country in which the idea of access is wrapped up in the ability to pay and this is what we're seeing the resistance against that access to things like higher education or like health care are in fact access to public goods and that there should be a way of controlling the costs and ensuring that people no matter what their monetary capabilities are able to take advantage of these kinds of programs. what the world knows about the protests here is that they have to do with students and there too we should put people of the problem it's not so much about the economy but more about their identity and the special welfare model that they are striving to keep i'm going to check our reporting from montreal canada r.t. and don't forget all the stories we're covering are also available any time on line for you here is with up loaded and ready at our t.v.

dot com live sound to a russian man of libya conflicts over twenty people for allegedly helping leader moammar gadhafi but they insist they were working as engineers. and russian billionaire nuclear programs planning a big party a political one that is never securing the six million votes and russians presidential election over the details and much more at r t. around the clock protests are continuing in cairo's tahrir square as demonstrators demand the death penalty for ousted president hosni mubarak he and his interior minister were sentenced to life in prison for their role in the deaths of protesters in last year's uprising although other mubarak associates were cleared

of charges tom barton reports now from the egyptian capital. protesters are occupying risk where in central cairo they're calling for a second revolution to change the situation in egypt initial happiness that former president hosni mubarak was given a life sentence turned to anger as other senior security officials were acquitted of involvement in the deaths of hundreds of protesters last year mohamed morsi the muslim brotherhood's candidate in the upcoming presidential elections second round in the country towards the camp he said that the revolution should continue and that if he was chosen as president he would try and get mubarak back on trial and how him execute it and the chief prosecutor of egypt has also said that he's going to try and appeal the acquittals of some of those senior security officials made shafique is the other presidential candidates in this race seen by many as not

really being sufficient not up to what they hoped for for this revolution and they see the court's verdict at this very crucial time in egypt as a sign that not much has changed and that they're all military regime is still in power and mr shafique said that he would not reinstate that old regime and that a choice for the muslim brotherhood would take egypt back to the dark ages as he put it although he's going to have a lot of convincing to do to make people believe that he's not part of that old regime in the meantime as this election divides the egyptian people more protests are being held here in the capital and elsewhere over the country and more are being planned including a million man march through the capital. at least thirty people have been arrested by libyan authorities after an arm of the group overran tripoli international

airport on monday the group surrounded planes and grounded all flights demanded the release of one of their commanders who had allegedly been detained after several hours government forces regained complete control of the facility security checkpoints were set up around the city where tension over the breach standoff remains high after amar shore from the institute of arabic and comic studies there's the situation in libya is still tense as it struggles to maintain post revolution security the conservation process is not complete the demobilization disarmament the integration of. is not complete. now we have the situation of the independent armed brigades still existed in the bia who did not join the military did not join the security forces but. the government but are still armed still have

a clear command and control structure what brought us into this crisis was the kidnapping of. the one of the affordable called the even army from and that is a stronghold of defeat after that move of political defeat we find some of the probably the supporters of of the students and he disappeared. he was kidnapped according to his followers they said he was kidnapped. to pressure the national transitional council to initiate investigations you see investigation they went on and took over the airport. other world news in brief for you this hour a car bomb has gone off near to government offices in baghdad killing at least eighteen people and wounding dozens more the blast is the city's deadliest single attack in months it follows a series of assaults last week that claimed seventeen my. mark has convicted four men for plotting a terrorist attack on

a newspaper that published cartoons mocking the prophet muhammad seven years ago the men were arrested in two thousand and ten after their plan for a shooting rampage was uncovered all those convicted are of north african or middle east descent and they could get up to sixteen years jail. well the next hour to talk to american economist and nobel laureate eric massa to find out what he thinks is on the horizon for the world troubled economy.

on the lhari it in economics it's great to have you with us sir today it's a pleasure so we'll start with greece and the latest news we know that chrissy's public finance is practically paralyzed that pensions and salaries won't be paid in june and then you have people and companies transferring their assets out of the country how much worse can actually the cash crunch get will they even be able to get to the seventeenth of june election we don't know the answer to that since. the election has. in the near future i suspect that they they can and hobble through to the election but things could deteriorate and get even worse and in the meantime i see be the greek situation as

a tragedy because so much of what has happened could have been prevented if europe were truly an integrated unity if the same steps had been taken on the fiscal side that is the public spending and tax side as were taken ten years ago on the monetary side so that there were there were it would be true. fiscal integration true centralization of fiscal policy. the. public debt problems that we see in greece but we also see spain italy and number of other countries would have automatically have been solved by by virtue of having a centralized europe spanish banks bankia has to request that the biggest spill out in spanish banking history and have the spanish banks all soak up the already sure

spain has had. some real problems too. and. while they have whether or not nearly. as serious trouble. as greece. it's bad and the austerity program there has has only made things worse but just how much financial power. to national and the e.u. authorities have to support spain in countries that are in similar situation like italy for example if they wanted to. exercise more power at the level of the of the union they could do it there are lots of things that could be done to ease the fiscal problem and spain and portugal one good idea

which has been proposed which i hope will be adopted at some point as the idea of a euro bonds to translates private debts and. ordered national debts and so the european objects some fund managers are openly right now dumping a hero assets and it's no surprise that it's running really low installer. but is dollar a safe bet at this point i mean america itself has a huge gap and its government up six its g.d.p. the dollar has always been a safe haven at times of economic uncertainty and i think it will continue to be a safe haven for for many years to come yes there is a. a debt problem in the u.s. in the sense that the debt to g.d.p. ratio is higher than it normally is that it's. if

you extrapolate going for the current situation going forward. it looks as though the jet g.d.p. the debt to g.d.p. ratio will actually. continue to increase but in fact. the seriousness of this problem has been exaggerated so you don't look at it as a crisis i look at it as as a problem but as a fixable problem and not a problem that has to be solved immediately by any means like i think a much more important probably united states is to get three accountability back to normal unemployment is still running at something like eight percent which is too high the first priority should be getting the economy back to normal and then to worry about. about solving the long term debt problem if

let's say two three men four years ago someone would have sat that you were already facing at crisis of this scale probably people would laugh in your face like no of course not do you think do you think scholars missed something or is it just that the world economy the model of the world economy is running low and it's out of battery and just unable to deliver growth now i actually i don't think this crisis was missed i mean. the financial crisis of a way of nine was was something of a surprise to many economists but the problem with europe would not at all miss that there were many economists very many prominent economists who pointed out at the founding of the monetary union the beginning of the last decade that there was a serious asymmetry between the way monetary policy and fiscal policy would be

handled that monetary policy was centralized in the european central bank that fiscal policy was not centralized that in the long run this asymmetry was not sustainable crank my skin thank you very much for this interview my pleasure. well with the. technology innovation all the developments around russia we. covered.

live from moscow our top stories syrian rebels reject the u.n. peace plan to renew international calls to impose a no fly zone to president assad that's his voice is growing some arab and western countries are armed civilian slaughter in. the streets to protest against the rising cost of education two days after talks. on the use to build the protesters also say they fear their country is. the libyan authorities have regained complete control of the city's tripoli

international airport thousands of militia men have been arrested after storming the facility and demanding the release of one of their. next the story of a modern day out on his one man crusade to protect america's notoriously violent border with mexico. and the immigration bill goes down in the senate that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo critics of arizona's newly signed immigration bill say it allows police to stop anyone on the street based purely on the person's appearance governor brewer's response when asked by a reporter what illegal immigrant looks like. i do not know i do not know what legal immigrant that's like but the sticking point is what to do with the millions of people who are in this country in this country illegally the u.s. government will have no idea.