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let. me lay it. when i work i report grow up of course. it's a mission for. protesting the powerhouse just a hop skip away from washington d.c. the world's movers and shakers rounds up their secret build a bird conference meanwhile a handful of protesters use their picket signs to draw attention to the group so what's with the mainstream media blackout. american politicians are trying to rein in the wild west ways of the internet how can you control something that you don't even understand the truth is many of our lawmakers have no idea how to use the internet let alone regulate it well tell you why the technology is more sophisticated than congress and congress is insecurity. and while the g.o.p.
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has crowned mitt romney as their likely nominee ron paul supporters aren't giving up on their candidate a big win in the louisiana has given them a much needed moral boost but tonight last what happens to paul supporters when mitt romney accepts the nomination in tampa this summer. it's monday june fourth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching r t. well a secretive and elite builder burge conference has sparked protests outside of the high security closed door of that the gathering of the world's top political and business leaders wrapped up over the weekend what they were about goal of a craving for solutions over. all kinds of groups protested outside of the marriott and chantel
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a virginia where the leaders were meeting it's believed that critical foreign policy decisions are made when the public is being left in the dark and the secrecy surrounding the event has bred all kinds of. as to what exactly goes on with some believing attendees are conspiring to build a one world government or our correspondent abbie martin was enchanted leverage and it's a cover the event and joins us now to tell us all about it abby nice to see you again so this is that it's been happening for decades this time it's enchanted leverage and not too far from here what makes this event is anything different from years past what was a bird meeting started in one thousand nine hundred fifty four when a group of people very powerful people got together to talk about their perpetuation of power and ever since then annually one hundred forty plus people top elites of the world and across all industries have been meeting every year in secret locations all around the world from switzerland to spain to greece and this
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series and chantilly virginia just a hop skip and a jump as you mentioned from d.c. i think what made this year so different is the dovetailing off of this global consciousness this global movement that we see worldwide really with the arab spring and occupy wall street and so i think it was a lot of coal lessons of a lot of different a mixed against different factions of the powerhouse and the power structures so we saw all those kind of combining forces at this movement that let's talk about exactly who was there and as you mentioned occupy wall street people that i know of this kind of brought together a variety of different groups talk about who was there and what exactly their message was interesting you said that because the predominant demographic that was there was white males which was interesting and a lot of people i talk to you know i asked why are there more females in this movement and and a lot of people said well the females stay back while the men kind of take charge and go forward and and fight this global elite so it was really interesting scene
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of those predominantly male and a lot of yelling on the bullhorn a lot of anger but also a lot of very good discussions a lot of intelligence there and a lot of understand. you know what was really going on or a lot of interest in what was going on so it was interesting demographic of people led you were there to kind of shake up the male female ratio there i heard that there was pretty tight security as expected to keep this conference i guess as secretive as it's been known to be can you talk about talk about that you know it was pretty much a lockdown police state in full effect for a quarter hour think a half mile outside of the hotel secret service a you name it i mean every element of government police local police all across the entire perimeter of the hotel people that i talked to that went even a mile outside of the told to get food they saw you know the unmarked cars with the tinted windows pretty much surrounding chantilly so it was really interesting some
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people that went in the hotel immediately after the conference said that it was really interesting they weren't allowed to sit down they weren't allowed to film very very tight tight lipped very very heavy security there someone even compared it to. a pole and then nine hundred thirteen. you know according to the village of our web site they are saying that you know while this is a venue for world leaders to get together and kind of talk about things without being quoted in newspapers without being scrutinized is it possible that that's what the case says you know it is possible is that unfortunately where there's zero transparency that's where these conspiracies or these theories of what is going on arise so when you have something that's completely under the radar behind closed doors people are going to speculate what's going on why does it need to be shrouded in secrecy so i think that that's the real issue if they want to have something out of the public light then it's really not to not be scrutinized and it's kind of
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doing the opposite effect because people are scrutinizing the fact that it's so secret now asking why and so obviously no transparency a lot of times we have in some. leaks in the past any idea who was there this year this time around and what they could have been talking about what could have possibly been on the agenda there is some speculation from some sources there over the years there have been more quote unquote inside build a berg that have kind of leaked what was what was talked about even though the people who work at the hotel and also media members that attend are sworn to secrecy but they're speculating who is going to be the vice presidential running mate for romney as we know in two thousand and eight hillary and obama attended build a bird wall they want to admit it but they went to meeting in virginia at the time of build averred and two days later hillary dropped out of the race and became you know the top pick for obama's cabinet so people are speculating you know do they pick the running mate it's very interesting you know money manipulation currency
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manipulation the price of oil the price of gas these things they speculate are being talked about we also know that there is a very very good gender released by the bill de burgh web site itself very vague talking about how to deal with cybersecurity threats how to deal with these global uprising how to just deal with the evolution of democratic societies across the world so very big agenda there is a list of attendees that people want to check it out and once again they're from all these industries across all boards interesting you know and some people say that the very nature of this con this conference happening the way it happens is illegal and i know that you spoke to a few of those folks let's take a listen to what they had to say. well right now we have the meeting of consortium if you will of the anglo-american empire you know some of these gentlemen have been here for the past twenty thirty forty years names like david rockefeller names like
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kissinger people on behalf of the rothschild banking dynasty they're inside right now and on top of those twenty to forty individuals that have been here in year after year they work through eighty to ninety to one hundred of the brightstar that they see out there in economic geo political. they're involved violating federal law the logan act inside of this building it's illegal for politicians and the heads of agencies to meet with robber barons and a leech to set policy there's a bunch of payoffs going on inside of here and that's why as they ride today we're here to get in their face and let them know that people are waking up to the they tried this mind game for decades cheating it doesn't exist there is no only the international bankers don't exist they don't want to world government they're not going to establish that now they're trying to openly establish world government as the solution to the derivatives crisis that they've created and now all that's happening is humanity is waking up and getting past the puppet obama's and romney's
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and tony blair's and and cameron's and they're getting to the actual oligarchy puppet masters that are controlling the whole system ok so there are a lot of people say that what goes down is illegal can you elaborate on that surely as in something called the logan act or not and the protests were actually very well versed and what that was and it's basically saying that foreign diplomats cannot meet and convene with u.s. officials are u.s. citizens without congressional oversight and it's actually illegal and you can be imprisoned up to three years or be fined and so pretty much when they're having these off the record meetings obviously they're talking about policy we already know that they admit it so it is interest. you know they're there talking about policy and these protesters are saying hey this is a legal this should be really scrutinized by the mainstream media which reports on the opening of and every time kim cardassian blinks but yet doesn't report on the top one hundred thirty obed's of the world meeting the story very interesting abbi
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i'm glad that you were there to report on it those are our correspondent abbie martin thinks well we have seen one piece of cyber legislation after another from so but a pet that's assisted if i saw the list goes on and there are all bills to regulate the internet and stifle citizens internet freedoms and each time there is public backlash against the murky language in the legislation and how they can create a slippery slope away from our online experience as we know it but just how much does congress really understand about the cyber world and cyber security who could forget about this famous comment back in two thousand and six by the late senator from alaska ted stevens and here we have this one situation where an enormous lease want to use that for their purpose to save money for you were doing what they're your you know you should actually you should go to every service they say you should know you know. the labor and other ways that they want to deliver amounts of
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information over the internet and again the internet is not something that you just you know something i'm not a big truck it's it's a series a. series of tubes he says so is congress out of touch when it comes to cyber security and what these controversial piece pieces of legislation really mean for our internet freedoms to discuss this and more john simpson privacy project director with consumer watchdog joins us now welcome john nice to have you here in this video so john congress you know a lot of older guys maybe didn't grow up whether we're with the internet and i'm one of those. but it is the young people you know they do go. with the internet so is it possible that congress is out of touch with with cyber the cyber world i think congress is is desperately trying to catch up and trying to do the right thing in a lot of places but there are all sorts of pitfalls and one of the biggest ones i
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think is when. things are done in the name of security which really end up perhaps invading your privacy in ways that are inappropriate and you know we see controversial bills aiming to tackle that you know we see bills like like sopa like says some more the list goes on and every time there is a backlash from online activists so why do they keep pushing for legislation like this well i mean i think legislators see their job is to legislate and so they're trying to to catch up with what they perceive to be problems and the difficulty is that some of these issues are very very hard to to get your head around and when you do get something like security when you feel that your entire electronic grid could be threatened by cyber attacks the natural reaction is to say oh we've got to pass the equivalent of the of the patriot act and that's just
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a long headed approach i mean it's would give. too much authority to government to look over your shoulder and delve into old sorts of communications and things like that that would be completely inappropriate so you're saying it's a natural reaction do you think that it's a it's a fair reaction or a justified reaction i think it's a natural reaction it often ends up being an inappropriate one. and you know i wanted to bring up this fact you know the way that people communicate these days that's lee different from in the past you know we use social media things like race book like twitter other social media sites. and some of the some of these congressmen or at least try. to keep up with the times let's take a look at some of their tweets kind of interesting the first one is. i don't know there's a hash tag ninety nine county meetings clint in lyondell industries tore slash q.
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and a with one hundred ten people including others issues e.p.a. regs fracking up enough creates. goes on and there's another one there stopped at mcdonald's for a milkshake to find a dairy queen in this part of the d.s.m. . four you should be here i agree. all of them doesn't make any sense and the other one is just kind of silly so does it just is this just another sign that they're kind of out of touch well you know it's a sign that they're trying to adopt to use social media and use the media appropriately one of the problems with with with the whole thing though for the rest of us for everybody is the extent to which your communications and our activity on the internet or monitor new boy companies. to sell us senseless to sell us to advertisers and the reason the for some sort of appropriate regulation to give consumers the right to control the information
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that's gathered about them when these surf the web when they when they send messages when they send e-mails that's very very important and i think i think congress needs to understand some of those issues and i think that there is a growing awareness of the problems with that that was manifested by privacy report that came out of the commerce department and also a report that came out of the federal trade commission the federal trade commission calling for a mechanism called do not track which would give consumers the ability not to have their data gathered and tracked when they when they surf the web that's very important you know i know a lot of the concern from online activists is the fact that the language in this bill is very murky and. take us down the slippery slope where they create creates this potential for for this kind of regulation and this this invasion of privacy and it's this kind of language that people have
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really spoken out against why do you think that there isn't more of an effort to try to put those safeguards within these these bills that prevents to prevent that possibility and to satisfy people that are concerned about their online freedoms it's very difficult to get some of this reduced the legislative language and there are right now some efforts where there are so-called multi-stakeholder groups trying to establish standards that make sense both by from from the business side but also by involving representative civil society and then geos like me there's something called the world wide web consortium that is trying to establish standards that provide the necessary controls but still allow there to be innovation on the internet which is key. and you know this all comes down to cyber security as as the law makers and you know they've kind of instilled this fear
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that this is something that we really need to be concerned about even scared about aside these kinds of cyber threats do you think it's a legitimate threat i think that it often is overhyped and you can do one awful lot of damage in the name of security you know it's ironic that the two of the biggest sorber sort of cyber threats most recently were a thing called starts net stuxnet starts net i'm sorry and flame which are two. computer viruses that probably the united states and israel cooked up and put on the computers and iran so we're out there posing cyber threats you know it's a little bit hypocritical to. you know maybe that shows why we think we need to do it but there's a great danger that too much can be done overdone all the name of security very interesting john thank you so much for coming on the show that was john simpson privacy project director with consumer watchdog. well canadian students back on the
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streets after talks with a call back government over to issue and fees collapsed protesters are now vowing to continue daily rally is which as we've seen over the months have led to fierce clashes with police and thousands of arrests artie's guy until you can reports on what started as a student strike has grown into something much more fears that canada's system is on its way to mirroring the ways of the u.s. the canadian province of quebec a region that prides itself on free healthcare and affordable education for its residents students here pay a fixed amount for tuition fees around twenty five hundred dollars a year for all of the colleges and universities that's the lowest rate in north america and the taxpayers pick up the rest but that model might change as their government looks sounds they are looking across the borders and seeing what the united states are doing and trying to become closer and closer to what the united states are working on which is more and more pressure is
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a shame and so they're having new social programs that cover for everybody. tens of thousands spilled onto the streets when the government said they'd be pushing up we should fees every year and in five years the students of care back will face education costs almost double what they're paying. i mean he knows is a student at a montreal university she works part time at a local ice cream shop she says if the people of keg don't stand there around now in the future higher education just won't be an option for me if it's too expensive the porch adenoma not even think about going to school because it's another world it's part of something that's accessible they were not even think about being a doctor or if it wasn't for you know it would be you know it's a symbol and what i was saying is that in us it's so expensive so the people the poor people they want to study they have no choice but to go. the army for the
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prospect of having to join the military to provide for their education is not the only thing about the us example that scares the want to fund skyrocketing tuition fees americans carry massive student loan debts on their shoulders that we need to preserve this and become what we've seen growing in the united states right now having a lot of students they are still paying for their university program and when they are seventy years old so we need to make sure that every students will be able to country. region and making sure that they have you can afford actually to start maybe. new and new businesses the rest of north america should be looking to go back as an example of how to mobilize how student association should function through direct democracy and how they should actually organize and challenge these measures and challenge this shackle system. to protest clearly signalled the
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path that is willing or rather not willing to take when we look towards the united states we see a country in which the idea of access is wrapped up in the ability to pay and this is what we're seeing the resistance against that access to things like higher education or like health care are in fact access to public goods and that there should be a way of controlling the costs and ensuring that people no matter what their monetary capabilities are able to take advantage of these kinds of programs. what the world knows about the protests here is that they have to do with students and their tuition but for people of the problem it's not so much about the economy but more about their identity and the special welfare model that they're striving to keep i'm going to check on reporting from montreal canada r t. well after the texas primary it's been called that mitt romney has the republican presidential nomination but this is not stopping ron paul's very dedicated supporters they're
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continuing to press on for delegates and make their mark at the g.o.p. convention and the easy ana not only did ron paul went over half the delegates but apparently and in apparent snub to the republican establishment most of the delegates reportedly physically move their chairs to turn their backs on the g.o.p. chair appointed by the party at the state convention but to break it down ron paul won twenty seven of louisiana's delegates versus mitt romney's nineteen but on a bigger scale paul has only one hundred thirty seven delegates compared to romney's monstrous lead with over with one thousand one hundred ninety one delegates to be exact so many are calling this a lost cause at this point with the delegate math virtually impossible so why are paul supporters still putting up a fight to talk about this i'm joined now by austin peterson he's director of production for freedom works welcome austin thank you so the numbers at this point
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not looking so good so why put in the time the money the effort to keep up the fight here there's a lot of great reasons well because the numbers that you might be getting are from the associated press which are based on estimates well paul has won the majority of delegates most five states and some of those delegates are bound and some of them or so some of them may be overtly romney supporters from what they say but they're actually ron paul supporters underneath so what they're doing is they're playing this sort of a strategy some of these delegates where they're saying yes we. mitt romney and those delegates may be added to mitt romney's count but they're actually secret ron paul supporters you see delegates aren't legally required to vote for the person that the state says that they are bound to they're only bound by the party rules to bow to vote for the candidate that their state chose and in many of those states the person who won was someone like rick santorum so those delegates are free to vote for whoever they wish they may say that they're voting for mitt romney but that's only because they don't want to be disenfranchised and they'd like to be able to vote for their actual conscience when they get to tampa so why give up when
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we're winning all of these caucuses and taking over states all across the united states why would you give up when you're winning and we just saw the numbers there and the numbers are so drab staggering in terms of the gap now between the delegate count between ron paul and mitt romney so what do you if what is the reasoning behind trying to continue to amass those delegates because think about the future imagine yourself a young ron paul supporter back in two thousand and eight and ron paul told you that the goal was to take over the republican party and to change it and restore it back to his republican roots to a smaller republican roots now two thousand and twelve has rolled around and you have taken over successfully the state party of colorado louisiana. a couple of other states that i can remember off the top of my head that we've done we've taken over these republican parties now imagine you're no longer young ron paul supporter in two thousand and sixteen and senator rand paul is running for office well you are now in charge of five republican states state parties so you have now have
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maximized your power to hand the nomination to the candidate that you fund far better so there's a great reason to keep going and fighting because when ron paul supporters take over leadership positions of these states in the future their influence will be been much more magnified so at this point would you say it's more about having a voice in the party's platform only one would say so but there's all sorts of shenanigans that ron paul delegates can play at the convention there's all sorts of things that happened now remember. mitt romney has always been a flip flopper what does mitt romney believe you know nobody really knows what mitt romney believes politicians they say always go to where the votes are they go to where they pander to power blocs so they power to minorities loud vocal minority as well why can't ron paul supporters are our power block that we've created be the minority that romney has to pander to why can't we force him through the threat of denying our votes to him by saying you need to come over to our side and you need to pander to us why should we allow mitt romney to pander to all these other
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minority groups why should he presented our issues like auditing the fed why should he pander to all of our issues like bring the troops home and see if we continue to exert pressure in these state parties through these delegations through these caucuses mitt romney is going to realize that he's going to have to start talking to our issues or he's going to lose our votes. at this point do you think there is any feasible way for ron paul to lead to pull it off to get those delegates i would like to hold out hope that he possibly could that there could be some miracle that would occur after the first round of voting that mitt romney would not be able to do it we would have a brokered convention i like that idea just because i like you know more democracy the idea that people going to have more choices so i'd like to think that it could happen it seems it seems reasonable that it wouldn't but there are so many other things that can be so many other battles that can be won fighting towards that goal that there's no reason to stop. so paul he suspended officially suspended his campaign and he's going to stop spending money but he still you know is focusing on
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this delegate strategy. and many say that what he's really trying to do is make his mark on the g.o.p. . at the at the coming convention do you think that that could be the case and if that's so how is he trying to change the dialogue there well imagine what happened in two thousand and eight he was not even invited to the republican national convention and now he may have a chance through his delegates to gain a primetime speaking. role at that convention what an epic glorious event that would be for ron paul supporters to deliver them out of the wilderness and to come into the light and be able to say hey look our movement is legitimized you allow ron paul to speak and say whatever it is that he wants to say and even if the mainstream republican party doesn't like some of the things that he has to say they have to pander to us they have to listen to us and our movement will be legitimized by allowing ron paul that speaking spot at the convention because we will have demanded it and we will have work for it we will have forced it by our actions over the last two years that would run paul backers like yourself i know you describe
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yourself as a ron paul fanatic i think you said would you ever support mitt romney i've said that there is only one way that i would ever support mitt romney and it would mean that i think they're very very conservative proposals if ron paul or rand paul were offered the vice presidential spot if judge napolitano judge in a poll to know ron paul's best buddy were offered attorney general or perhaps a supreme court position perhaps and there was an audit the fed in the firing of ben bernanke you then that is the type of thing that would be make me say well mitt romney is finally flipped up over be a libertarian and now it's time to get on board because the thing is is that ron paul has never compromised on these kinds of things in his life and i really trust him and i know that he would not do something that i think would only in a his his people so even if some people would see that as a sellout i would see it more as a time for the libertarians to come out of the wilderness so. we are at a time that thank you so much austin for coming on the show that was austin peter
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said director of production for freedom mark thank you and that's going to do it for now for the news but for more on the stories we covered you can check out our you tube channel that's youtube dot com slash our team erica you can also check out our website it's our t.v. dot com slash usa and you can follow me on twitter at lance wallach will be right back here at seven. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old to tell the truth. i confess and i am a total get a friend that i love rap and hip hop is that patrick. he was kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the will without you see its place.
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