where they are in this very dangerous time that is a very dangerous thing. not me man oh man we are. free. when i am ran around and around the america the big. one but the people in mexico that need help oh yeah yeah i call those people my lazy family didn't want to come on the trip for close to your health and yes every year i send them a map. i wrote the bill the that the president signed in october that takes the san diego fence eight hundred fifty four miles across arizona new mexico and texas and it's mandatory. but it's not going to vary the later years i. do structural. of the legally allowed legally.

it in the spinning now in all of these holy books where profits go off into the desert and somehow the isolation brings them to

a spiritual revelation. started a little ways back say towards the end the last summer it started i am me out here so i was just so into this place you know i know all the animals here it's really you saw you just become part of the. marina came out here very hard version very conservative things from my youth started coming up things about spirit about a dandy with the earth and looking at people in different situations. i had to go to mexico oddly enough to go to a dentist if that ain't funny i'm outsourcing myself. was there i noticed how much poppy was in the town and it's a fairly decent town. that's when i started noticing the look at the migrants face i mean there is more as i capital and you know there at the bottom of their world

basically i have to work almost every day i'm at the bottom of my world. i'm a analog man in the digital world. going back into the year you were going back into it pretty much got to make sure you were armed regardless of what they're going to. margins with drug dealers or anything like that there's a lot of rattlesnakes back there. and they tend to get them to finally you know nobody you have orders you know you get a shark in with you. about this noise.

bothers people. already and we're on our way to. the vast highway that leads to america i grew up in the sixty's i participated in a lot of the marches that were back then i was a young kid i was fifteen years old ran away with the hippies. only to startle me stimulating and it's unfortunate because like i say i know how much they have to deal with all the tears and it's nonsense but on the other hand it's polluting my society and we start to get like that over the. years one of the major trails into the united states so. you can see how well walk this is. like a trail in a park in central park. place

you can down here when they come in coyotes use these things for the markets so when he's coming in he sees the reflection of the light off this the rest of the can is black he takes his people past. flips the can around when he's making his return the moonlight lights up as a little silver bottom and he's in and he's out. in order from there are four of us. we are from when we come from the same area we're all friends. if catches us and throws us back. we'll go back together the four of us.

we have to look for other ways to earn money we have to work outside the area we live to find a bit of money. in mexico we get paid a hundred pesos per day that's about seven us dollars but now one hundred pesos a day isn't enough food costs about fifty pesos over there for example what we just did here cost fifty pesos before tax we are in a day is only enough to eat twice a day and then the money is gone back to the father the son and go for one two or three years to work make a little money. for. us to build a house in our home town. supercede only a small house where we can live. in

those are the ones that think there is and use their heads. best among those that don't use their heads come back the same. without any money. for. water bottles. so it's good for. mexican id. family photo and religious one you know not only what they do if they're going to lose these id cards they melt the a picture because it's like when i give this kid a border patrol you know you're in this country illegally. and. it going to be looking for you. i wonder if this is your necklace as well. it's a picture from a b. to sixty's you know guy with a mustache lady of guadalupe which just happens to be the the treaty that we've got

up there on the border. well i'll do is i'll take these tony's into border patrol and. you know she's got and he wants warrants or anything like that know that as well as a lot of criminals come to you too and. that's one of biggest problems we've got. to start getting that stopped. so we're on the main trail right here but you can notice that there's trails coming in other places this right he had his trail it's leading up like this it doesn't look like much but they will follow it it leads to that white panel up in the distance that's where the border mocker is it's like an op less like you know washington monument to put their backs against that new kind of walk up the wall and all the trails that come up at a canyon they were going to join us up in here and even to see did this is pretty much. the central figure and coming into camp which self twenty eight it

was overlooked by early a minuteman but. i'm the kind of guy who doesn't mind getting his pants dirty so i come out here you know. well you know when you take my bike place. and i'm going to take more people yes are you going to take this truck or about one yeah how here in half there yes well where you're guys yeah we're here oh you're all here. yes. so what are we waiting for. the longer. i'm. not this truck.

that slow i like on. t.v. well if we get through it's good. and if it doesn't go well and we don't make it over well we'll try again you know if not then. there's no other solution. then we can only wait for god. can i do so we can free our path.

obviously days. some tracks up here. looks like somebody had walked up behind us and. we're going to look at them in case we have to call them in the border patrol. ok so what we got here you see this rounded front that means that they were in a border it's a piece of fabric they were up around issues so they don't leave an exact printed issue you'll get rid of it by the time they get up to the kid ninety four and he's run back pretty much.

and. yeah i'm a good guess this is like a kid's play toy so maybe they were carrying a kid with them. and you could drop that they must been in kind of a panic because they must have seen the headlights coming back down on them like tends to get them but it didn't mark these food footprints of mine so that people know who was here so we'll put them in amman and the border patrol sees that they know minutemen we're here during a real sense and call it in because we don't know which way he had it he could have gone that way and that way or both. so there's somewhere around this right now but i don't have my night vision with us otherwise we will go out and visit them. i am i have called how quickly will. call

them going to. come.

ok. yeah right. deep my he was right if you're right if you were right back to your. heart. was a room to. me to come. see you don't need to get it you got to you've got to be kidding me to be my. job my. baby came here to protest you don't

believe in the stands with too many of us not only that you know which many groups is very divisive and we like to call him the father of eight but he didn't just hate ads promoting division in doing voiceovers and scaring people some of the tactics that are used today. was good stuff mostly pretty. that's right you know. you can't stop us was that's why you're out here the us government built a wall between the united states and mexico we were totally opposed to that so what happened was as of december of one thousand nine hundred ninety four all the sudden people started dying pass in the desert well before it was very rare to have somebody dying maybe one or two people that might also use or having one or two people a day crossing the desert. so what happened was we said we've got to do something about this. you want to thank all of you for joining us i mean you come on as you know that we have some of new people that are here for the for the first time i'm

glad that you're all out here so the first thing that we do not miss out on the maybe some bugs or whatever is going to flip the rock up and it's going to get out quickly because if you see the same thing with this thing off. and then. we do make noise with lots of pieces to be scattered around this this one looks pretty good. one has a whole case in the galut so good that they don't need to be refurbished however. these events are a lot of give a lot of it we have a lot of water with us so maybe somebody can go to grab a couple of gallons just to get the bill a gallon of. the my going when they're crossing they don't know what this is they just see it and then and their tractor to it's one of the things that we've been doing one of the

times when i was on the today show actually the guy said you get some solar to little lights and we do have them some not out here and in other areas because they're crossing at night with a few light at night and they're attracted to it and we've asked the border patrol not to do is to drive around in a circle and drag the tires or whatever no way they can see at this point prince what they'll do is they'll drag around here and see footprints then they know there's somebody around here we don't do that because we want to fight with and he's the water to get the water we don't want to die and they don't want to get out here either.

and i. know while. max was that johnny lies to me gentlemen i'm not over naco arizona what you congratulations as a going brother have been up here in about six weeks yeah i've been in civilization you know all there jump and. come and. oh look i want to get to i'm going to ask you build a new bathroom. strip out this trailer used for storage we can try to clean up the action with everything in the trailer you can tidy. still operating when i have

a still in. the border yes but down here for your. ah here there is a fine your last week. oh it's just things a lot of i need one guy to go do you guys have been supplying me free light is for the longest time ok well i asked rejoinder if that's if he left his tooth brush up here you says no it's not his to brush so i look at the whole picture not just a tooth brush we have a rock on the well you have a lock on the right and you want to point it and still do it where is it going the most go to the usa they can climb up that dirt mound go right over the fence make a beeline and go like highway ninety four.

these are the kind of people i fight this fight for because. they bought land down here is that it they could live comfortable have a nice ranch not have to worry about things. by themselves a nice piece drive property and they wind up having to put up with always getting eight foot gate get all these dogs live every night defensively it's not the way it should be in america. you see here you know a little but then they're coming over the fence by the hundreds every night that i watch them sometimes they'll sit out and you can with my binoculars and i can sit like a watch and come over and you call border patrol and you know i watch them they run run down my property i watch them run down the side one time they had

a small child with them and they were dragging that smart that child trying to get away trying to hide they saw me and i saw them and they knew it and they work that poor little kid i felt so sorry for him they left him they left one yeah they left one letter and another one and to come but just it was in the news today my isn't really all of your old kid they left here for eight days how many times would you say they come across your property and it's got to be almost every night it's like it is almost every night they come by here they're either come in this road or behind us on this other side and when they come through here they're moving there are still close to the border the border is right there so they're still running so the dogs alerted us. and the dogs do have a chop they have a service and that's their service such what we have we love our dogs but they also perform and shop.

right you could copy one of the correlation between the red pickup truck we saw there this morning i wonder if there's any connection copy. on hamam. she did original concept of the minutemen project man we're just going to bunch of all farts this gentleman right here he was with us in arizona back in zero five when it all started. and i care what is are we still protecting the border for some port of more of a troll how many of us are there why six total us and that's it of the original concept everybody else is out that donal's parking lots or home depot centers are chasing legislation to stop employers know and you got it all wrong got to close

the border would get to seal the border that will solve the problem coming down here and sitting on this line day in and day out day in and day out night and day do the weather hot cold stop being that cockroaches from coming over the wire is protecting the country. in two thousand and five it was the sequence of popping up all the been in effect a half dozen people can only do is a hand out of their time when they go to start taking credit for all these detentions but the figures they have been a total failure. because when they really do detain somebody with aids and somebody over the border patrol it will be just purchased the border patrol has to give that report to the mexican consulate they have to do that it's along an international agreement and they need to know the crime so it was the minimum that did it and the

minimum point is some people out that's in the report. in the more than two years that the minimum amount and there's been less than a hundred people that have been stopped because of the minutemen. that's going to. thank. you.

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problems is that where specifically the u.s. losing its ability to influence others for example. the syrian rebels say they're no longer committed to a non ceasefire no fly zone to take over from the monitoring mission as tensions come to a head following the recent massacre with arab and western nations demanding an armed response. thousands of canadian students flood the streets of baghdad pushing on with their protests against cost of education the demonstrators also say they don't want this system to follow the u.s. trail with drones young americans deeply in debt. and the libyan authorities have regained control of tripoli international airport tough to being seen groups doesn't the militia men have been arrested after still in the facility and demanding the release of one of the elite is. coming up the u.s. led west has a long left its ideological malcolm the world but is

a losing its touch piece of the bell and his guests debate the question and cross talk here on our. it is. still. a low in welcome to cross talk of people about after a decade of wars and an ongoing global financial crisis particularly in the eurozone just how attractive is the west when it comes to soft power is the west specifically the u.s. losing its ability to influence others through example and the power of ideas and values.