tv [untitled] June 4, 2012 8:00pm-8:30pm EDT
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we've been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to operations around the day. forget the green bay packers mayor tom bennett is going head to head with with the concent governor scott walker and a recall election of historic proportions it's big money on the right versus big names on the left and only one can win will tackle some of the issues. and ron paul may not be the republican presidential nominee but his libertarian philosophy is sure catching on to young entrepreneurs armed with the super pac are making political history we'll talk to them in just a bit. plus american politicians are trying hard to rein and the wild west ways of the internet but how can you control something you don't understand truth is many
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of our lawmakers have no idea how to use the internet let alone regulate it we'll tell you why the technology is more sophisticated than congress's cyber insecurities. it's monday june fourth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz of all in you're watching our. we're just one day away now before the people of wisconsin vote to savor a dump governor walker it's been a fierce battle with serious repercussions for workers' rights with republicans rallying and pumping enormous amounts of money behind walker his opponent milwaukee mayor tom barrett doesn't have the cash but significant political support behind him and one of the few recall elections in u.s. history it's politics gone wild in wisconsin and as it stands
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a latest poll has governor walker three percentage points ahead of his democratic opponent with fifty percent of the vote but the race is far from decided to correspondent christine for his hours in wisconsin to show us the contenders desperate last minute campaigning and what's at stake for the state and the country . also a great day for us the road has been long today is our three hundred eighty second to sing along the journey at times front with anger and frustration scott walker's not a total disaster for workers families for the middle class the only people he served there billionaires we are all angry about the lies that are being told. by the governor and by the state and now this group of devoted wisconsin residents has just about reached the end. of. the rallies there were people listening to speakers there were drum circles there was chanting and this is
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just another way to protest and our way was singing together the solidarity sing along group first met on march eleventh twenty eleven and every weekday since that there was snow sleet rain and shine they've been meeting here they say among their goals they want to keep that energy alive the first lines of the occupation of the state house and the recall election itself for months all eyes were on wisconsin and this was ground zero for the debate on unions workers' rights and inequality in america eventually they collected enough signatures for a recall election to be held and to bring milwaukee mayor tom barrett back to face off with scott walker one more time he said opposed to having workers' rights to these people and i think that his ultimate goal is to take away workers' rights both private unions in public and. but despite the energy here. polls show mayor barrett behind governor walker credibility to want to encourage or
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the reform group and the governor more confident every day i think you're right when you know i'm going to firm yet again on tuesday that the reason so many people are standing with me is because every day i'm in office i stand with the hard working taxpayers. side the state house was just one day to go these protesters remain hopeful we've got a good way to walk. and soon know if they were successful and vowed to carry on in their protest their songs and their struggles in madison wisconsin christine. are. well for more of the last ditch campaigning frenzy r.t. correspondent christine joins us now live from wisconsin hi christi so we are down
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to the wire now how have things been playing out over there and wisconsin well the evening things have been playing out in many different facets as you just saw that is the mood and that has been the mood outside the wisconsin state capitol for fifteen months now a lot of people energized organized to try to see the governor out of office. tomorrow is what they've been waiting for but with that as soon as you drive out of this city which tends to be more liberal city at the college town things change we've been in neighborhoods where every other house has a different signs supporting walker some supporting barrett's people we spoke to said you know what they can't talk to their neighbors anymore because this issue is such a polarizing issue that they're choosing sides and it's getting really really personal it's really interesting because we've gone and to some of these events that the candidates have held and i've got to say you know barrett has a lot of people but you know scott walker has a lot of people too that are just as energized just as organized who are coming out
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and they're saying you know what we think the governor did something great we think he did what he had to do those people are going to come in and come out and vote tomorrow as you mentioned this is politics gone wild here in this state and it's really been interesting just to see how polarized things have gotten how tense things have gotten and i can tell you one thing everyone here. it's going to be glad when tomorrow is over and one thing that really does separate the two candidates at this point is walker has an enormous amount of money behind him especially compared to his opponent and how is that it playing into things i tell you well is it is a miracle that there are not one hundred dollar bills floating around in the wind here this has been a matter of a dumping ground for caps when you take a look at the different elections that have been going on it just surpassed the one hundred million dollars mark in terms of money that's been spent both on both on this recall election a lot of the others elections going on to a reminder to the viewers this is actually the seventh election wisconsinites will
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be taking part in in fourteen months a lot of them say they're simply election out they're tired they're ready for this all to be over but when you take a look at the money it's just so interesting and you see it everywhere you see it when you turn on the television and every ad has something to do with the election both sides calling the other side a liar there's also i should mention a criminal investigation going on it's called the john doe investigation this is into scott walker's staff members many of them accusing of spending the taxpayer money to campaign for him. by the just surprise you won't be surprised but you're going to see scott walker behind bars before you know it so a lot of strong opinions here and as you mentioned quite a bit of money behind them are i think sorry christie there we just we lost our connection for a bit but i did want to ask you you know essentially this is a state battle why should people across the country care about what goes on there i think is a good point was this is not just a referendum on scott walker it's
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a referendum on his policies it's also a referendum on unions are they still relevant are they still important and significant to what extent will workers' rights change as a result of this election these are all questions that are very important it's why so much money is being dumped into this two thirds of money coming in to support governor walker is from out of state as you already know you know the koch brothers a lot of big organizations are coming in this is important because it could determine the future of workers' rights is collective bargaining that big of an issue that a governor will lose his job if you tried to take it away that question we will hopefully have the answer to it tomorrow a lot of governors across the country want to make similar changes don't want has proposed in his act ten bill that he signed into law whether or not they go forward with that with taking on unions with taking on workers' rights will be determined with what happens here tomorrow and so we're just hours away now kristie from the
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moment of truth any idea of what to expect in this very tense time ahead well i think we're going to say just more of what we've been seeing since we've been here the candidates going to various locations around this state you've got to remember this is mostly a rural state that you know wisconsin madison wisconsin is a very fun town a lot of restaurants and bars and students but as you drive out you know we were in oshkosh wisconsin yesterday a very small town past a number of farms you know a lot of land and it's very very different in terms of the people's interests here so in terms of what will happen it's very. just so you already mentioned what the polls are showing but we had former senator russ feingold in town today campaigning for mayor barrett he says he thinks the mayor is going to win both sides say this is going to be very close and that turnout is going to be the number one factor in this election kristie thank you very much for keeping us informed on this very important election over there in wisconsin that was our t.v. correspondent christine for south. but with mitt romney's nomination effectively
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secured ron paul's career appears to be winding down but many of his young supporters are pressing forward to achieve what they call the ron paul revolution and at the forefront of this movement is john ramsey has a twenty one year old texas millionaire and he's putting his money over a million dollars of it toward a super pac to back so-called liberty candidates now these are candidates that stand behind all things libertarian small government civil liberties and an interventionist stance well the creators of the super pac liberty for all joined us earlier to talk about their mission founder ron john ramsey and executive director preston bates mr ramsey talks about why he started this unique venture. that i could be spending my money on ferrari's but you know i'd rather spend the money to spread freedom and. freedom is a very very unique idea you know it's something that we believe humans are meant to be free and you know have the ability to do this you know honestly don't sleep well
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and knowing that there's people around the world there's more than a billion people around the world don't have fresh water to drink and also don't sleep well knowing that you know people around the world. they're held down by tyrants and you know we liberty for all steps in to do and solve some of these problems and what exactly inspired you to create this super pac where you disillusioned with where money and campaign campaigns are going today so this was you know you see some of the things that are going on in the country and it's it's very depressing you know we really wanted to create an organization that wins freedom elections and that's what liberty for all is all about and we don't see freedom is just a mere political outcome it's a humanitarian outcome as well all right maybe this question is for you. what exactly is the liberty for all super pac what does it stand for stands for freedom and stands for getting government out of the bank in the bedroom for too long america has been dominated by two political parties who want to be invading your
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bank your bedroom freedom is over that america itself and it's high time americans and frankly citizens of the world have the opportunity for freedom liberty for all as a liberty organization that wins elections so what is freedom to you. freedom is free to think self ownership. work and create jobs and be involved in economy without being told what to do it's free to express free to create. the most bold and frankly heroic thing. that's freedom and ultimately. vested in the super pac what are you hoping to achieve. a world where we live off each other's happiness and i each other's misery whether it be providing thirty miles of clean water to drink or hungry minds with information spreading political technology liberating people at home and abroad that's what i would like to achieve and you know as i mentioned before you can do whatever you want with your funds but
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about a part ferrari. and vestment that you're happy that you made i'm very happy about this investment was. honestly i was a little bit selfish of me to go out and buy these frivolous things considering the state of the world i'm just here a young person here to make the world a better place that's what i want to do and it seems very enlightening for you to say something like that because you are very young twenty one years old i believe still in college. what that would do your colleagues your classmates in college think about this i assume their priorities are a little bit different than yours. they are happy with what i'm doing that i am getting to achieve a goal and that i have the means to do it. i'm really not interested in becoming a political figure it all is i'm interested in going back to school studying developmental economics and studying some of the issues that i mentioned earlier
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the packing help in these things we can develop in what's called a five hundred one c three intrinsically make the world a better place and. at the end at the end of the day say you have absolutely no political ambition to we're not doing this for any political gain what about you. is there any possible political motive behind this because people are going to look at this in and say hey maybe something's going on here and tell you what were the crossroads of america we can do in a free or less free or direction and frankly before all is interested in taking back one district one constable precinct one u.s. senate seat one gubernatorial seat of time we just don't have time america's precipice and right now we need to be electing freedom commits that's all the referrals turn to do. and that was john ramsey founder of liberty for all super pac and president bates executive director for liberty for all super pac. well we have
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seen one piece of cyber legislation after another from so that appear that assist but if i saw the list goes on there all bills aim to regulate the internet and stifle citizens internet freedoms and each time there is public backlash against the market language in the legislation and how they can create a slippery slope away from our online experience as we know it but just how much does congress really understand about the cyber world and cyber security who could forget this famous comment back in two thousand and six by the late senator from alaska ted stevens and here we have this one situation we're not going to use i want to you know their purpose to save money for going doing what they're doing now you should actually you should know every services they do you should know. what they want to deliver. information over the internet and again even if it's not something that you just something i'm not a big truck it's good to show you should. so is congress out of touch when it comes
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to cyber security and what these controversial pieces of legislation really mean for internet freedoms earlier john simpson privacy project director with consumer watchdog joined me and i asked of congress. as a bit out of touch with the internet here's the take i think congress is is desperately trying to catch up and trying to do the right thing a lot of places but there are all sorts of pitfalls and one of the biggest ones i think is when. things are done in the name of security which really end up perhaps invading your privacy in ways that are inappropriate and you know we see controversial bills aiming to tackle that you know we see bills like like sopa like this but some more the list goes on and every time there is a backlash from online activists why do they keep pushing for legislation like this well i mean i think legislators see their job is to legislate and so they're trying
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to to catch up with what they perceive to be problems and the difficulty is that some of these issues are very very hard to. get your head around and when you do get something like security when you feel that your entire electronic grid could be threatened by cyber attacks the natural reaction is to say oh we've got to pass the equivalent of the of the patriot act and that's just a wrong headed approach i mean this would give. too much authority to government to look over your shoulder and delve into old sorts of communications and things like that that would be completely inappropriate so you're saying it's a natural reaction do you think that it's a it's a fair reaction or a justified reaction i think it's a natural reaction it often ends up being an inappropriate one. and you know wanted to bring up this fact you know the way that people communicate these
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days that's lee different from in the past you know we use social media things like facebook like twitter or other social media sites. and some of the some of these congressman are at least trying to keep up with the times let's take a look at some of their tweets a kind of enjoy. stang the first one is i don't know there's a hash tag ninety nine county meetings quentin lyondell industries tore slash kill in a with one hundred ten people including others issues e.p.a. regs fracking up enough creates jobs. go the. there's another one there stuff at mcdonald's for a milkshake couldn't find a dairy queen in this part of the d.s.m. . so there you should be here i am but of one of them doesn't make any sense and the other one is just kind of silly so does it just or is this just another sign that they're kind of out of touch well you know it's a sign that they're trying to adapt to use social media and use the media
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appropriately one of the problems with the whole thing though for the rest of us for everybody is the extent to which your communications and or activity on the internet are monitored and used by companies. to sell us essential to sell us to advertisers and there isn't the for some sort of appropriate regulation to give consumers the right to control the information that's gathered about them when they surf the web when they send messages when they send e-mails that's very very important and i think i think congress needs to understand some of those issues and i think that there is a growing awareness of the problems with that that was manifested by privacy report that came out of the commerce department and also a report that came out of the federal trade commission on the federal trade commission calling for a mechanism called do not track which would give consumers the ability not to have
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their data gathered and tracked when they when they surf the web that's very important you know i know a lot of the concern from online activists and the fact that the language in this bell is very murky and meg could take us down the slippery slope where. creates this potential for for this kind of regulation and this is invasion of privacy and it's this kind of language that people have really spoken out against why do you think that there isn't more of an effort to try to put those safeguards that within these these bills that to prevent to prevent that possibility and to satisfy people that are concerned about their online freedoms it's very difficult to get some of this reduced legislative language and there are right now some efforts where there are so-called multi-stakeholder groups trying to establish standards that make sense both by from from the business side but also by involving representative civil society and then
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goes like me there's something called the world wide web consortium that is trying to establish standards that provide the necessary controls but still allow there to be innovation on the internet which is key. and you know this all comes down to cyber security as as the law makers and you know they've kind of instilled this fear that this is something that we really need to be concerned about even scared about aside these kinds of cyber threats do you think it's a legitimate threat i think that it often is overhyped and you can do on awful lot of damage in the name of security you know it's ironic that the two of the biggest sorber sort of cyber threats most recently were a thing called starts net stocks and starts net i'm sorry in flying which are two. computer viruses that probably the united states and israel cooked up and put on
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the computers in iran so world they're posing cyber threats you know it's a little bit hypocritical to. you know maybe that shows why we think we need to do it but there's a great danger that too much can be done overdone all the name security very interesting john thank you so much for coming on the show that was john simpson privacy project director with consumer watchdog canadian students back on the streets after talks with the quebec government over to wish in fees collapsed protesters are now vowing to continue daily rallies which as we've seen over the months have led to fierce clashes with police and thousands of arrests artie's can reports that what started out as a student strike has grown into something much more. the canadian province of quebec a region that prides itself on free healthcare and affordable education for its residents students here pay a fixed amount for tuition fees around twenty five hundred dollars
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a year for all of the colleges and universities that's the lowest rate in north america and the taxpayers pick up the rest but that model might change as their government looks south they are looking across the borders and seeing what the united states are doing and trying to become closer and closer to what the united states are working on which is more in my presence is ations and so they're having new social programs that cover primary but. tens of thousands spilled onto the streets when the government said they'd be pushing up to ration fees every year and in five years the students of care back will face education costs almost double what they're paying right thank you i mean he knows is a student at a montreal university she works part time at a local ice cream shop she says if the people of keg don't stand there around now in the future higher education just won't be an option for many if it's too expensive
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a porch adenoma not even think about going to school because it's another world it's part of something that's accessible they wouldn't even think about being a doctor or if it wasn't for you know it would be you know it's a symbol and what i was saying is in us it's so expensive so the people the poor people they want to study they have no choice but going to army for that the prospect of having to join the military to provide for their education is not the only thing about the u.s. example that scares the give it to fund skyrocketing tuition fees americans carry massive student loan debts on their shoulders that we need to preserve this and become what we've seen growing in the united states right now having a lot of students they are still paying for their. university program and when they are seventy years old so we need to make sure that every students will be able to contribute to. a. region and make sure that they have you can afford actually to
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start maybe. a new and new businesses the rest of north america should be looking to go back as an example of how to mobilize how student association should function through direct democracy and how they should actually organize and challenge these measures and challenge this debt shackle system. to protest clearly signaled the path that is willing rather not willing to take when we look towards the united states we see a country in which the idea of access is wrapped up in the ability to pay and this is what we're seeing the resistance against that access to things like higher education or like health care are in fact access to public goods and that there should be a way of controlling the costs and ensuring that people no matter what their monetary capabilities are able to take advantage of these kinds of programs what the world knows about the protests here is that they have to do with students and their tuition fees but for people of the problem it's not so much about the economy
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but more about their identity and the special welfare model that they're striving to keep. reporting from montreal canada r t. well economists around the world are struggling to find solutions to the financial crisis but a twelve year old girl canadian girls knows what needs to be done. even for me. but we were being. well. well we. got. well victoria grand took the internet by storm overnight after a video of her slamming canada's banks for robbing the people went viral to correspondent bill dot had a chance to talk to internet sensation victoria grant and her mother and that's how she became so knowledgeable about finance i've been researching and watching
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documentaries and like reading books and it's not that hard to understand once you start researching and. like world leaders they probably know what's happening it's just they're just they're not doing anything about it why not do you think why don't they. i think they don't care because they're benefiting from what they're doing to us or i know i know your mom sitting next to you most you know how do you feel about your daughter becoming an internet sensation and even talking to global news channels like. it's been quite exciting we never knew when this project started what would happen with this and we didn't actually dream that this would happen but it's exciting it's exciting that we're getting people talking and doing their own research whether they agree or disagree they're at least listening and exploring well.
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as a sort of little earlier i was sure your presentation was very impressive i suppose a lot of people also you this question did you really come up with. is yourself. me and my dad have been watching documentaries so i've been taking notes and you know like we'd write it down and then we put it into my speech so this is the sort of thing you've been discussing so you've been discussing this with the old and clearly it's something that has really taken your interest by storm and do you feel that you definitely have a message to tell not just people of your generation of your age but but the whole of the world from what you understand in now. or not thousands of course people around the world who have seen you explaining what's wrong what about you yourself your mom's oversea pretty excited by all of this but what about the attention on you now. mazing i
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like that so many people are watching it because they can get information on what's happening and they can try and tell all of their people about it but some people of your age might say economics finance or boring is not. yeah probably but what you say to them is actually important for our lives. it's important because if something really bad happens you know like we could grow up like living like just like one meal a day if this keeps getting worse. what about them when you grow up what are your ambitions do you want to be an economist you want to be prime minister. i want to be an interior designer but i'm definitely going to keep studying monetary reform. victoria.
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