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longtime harmon in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture if you want to take away the voting rights of thousands of citizens we're going to call the koch brothers what is the koch brothers role in florida's war on voting and will governor scott listen to the department of justice and stop the voter purge also most people were depressed by the new job numbers that came out friday republicans were surprisingly cheer for the failing economy really make them happy that and more in the monday politics annele and over the last several months republicans have been trying to take america back one hundred years
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a time when women were considered the property of the republicans don't stop trashing women and women's rights women have the last laugh coming out of member elections. you need to know this state of florida told the justice department what it can do with its letter demanding governor rick scott end it is illegal purge of democratic voters in the sunshine state and that's shove it the state has until june sixth to respond to the letter but already the florida secretary of state's office has responded to it by saying we're going to continue forward and do everything that we can legally do to make sure that ineligible voters cannot vote florida's democratic senator bill nelson has called for an end to the voter purge as has the democratic party chairman in broward county and the miami herald newspaper which i've covered evidence that most of the voters targeted to be removed from the rolls were minorities and democrats and very few were republicans now there were
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a public report has uncovered a possible connection between the florida voter purge and major right wing political donors as the watchdog dog group reports former florida secretary. state kurt browning who began the voter purge previously led a conservative group called protect your vote inc which according to disclosure documents received one hundred thousand dollars check from another organization called the center protect patients rights and guess where that organization gets much of its funding that's right the billionaire oligarchy the koch brothers it just so happens the koch brothers are also funding the american legislative exchange council alec which has turned out numerous voter id laws to make it harder for largely democratic voters to vote all across the country and here's what the founder of alec had to say back in one thousand nine hundred eighty about his agenda. how many of our christians have what i call the cuckoo syndrome good government they want everybody to vote. i don't want everybody to vote
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election won by a majority of people they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. leveraging the elections why can't i go drop out go bowling populist go down he said that as he was running the reagan campaign in one thousand nine hundred so just how coordinated and how well funded is this effort to block democrats in the polls in november and seal a presidential victory for wall street's favorite politician mitt romney has shed more light on this is panda hair co-director of the advancement project and welcome thank you glad to have you with your positions filed suit against florida what are you asserting the state is guilty as well with the state did as it created a list of mostly latino citizens and sent them letters telling them that the state suspected that they were not citizens and should not be registered to vote and they had thirty days to bring in their documents or they were going to be taken off the voting rolls this just caused an uproar in florida the latino community the haitian
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american community so we've actually given notice that this violates federal law and we intend to do is sin is the state is had twenty days to respond to our notice if it does not stop this purge now the fifteenth amendment says that you can't while there's no right to vote in the constitution as the supreme court has reminded us several times including bush v gore the fifteenth amendment says that there that you can't discriminate based on race or color and is this a violation of fifteenth amendment or are you suggesting that this is a violation of the voting rights act or we're suggesting that it's a violation of the voting rights act which was passed in order to implement the fifteenth amendment and protect the right to vote for people of color and we're also suggesting that it violates the national voter registration act which congress passed in one nine hundred eighty in one thousand nine hundred three to make voter registration of more accessible because at that time roughly only fifty percent of african-americans were actually able to become registered to. so does it surprise
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you that corporate america like the koch brothers are funding a an effort to stop latino voters from you know especially after in two thousand katherine harris knocking seventy thousand african-american voters so you get them out of the way now it's hispanics what we've seen in florida as we've seen a lection cycle after election cycle this state using the same playbook which is that takes a little bit of the vote away by taking away early voting days it takes away another slice of the vote by taking away voter registration opportunities it takes another slice of the vote away by purging people and it takes another slice of the vote away in some other states by passing very restrictive photo id laws now we know that the american legislative exchange council is behind the photo id laws that's been proven and i think it would be no surprise if they're also behind this purge in florida and we're seeing the same type of alleged non-citizen purge
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popping up in all different states and usually when it pops up and it's the same everywhere there's one source that's behind it right and we just heard from the founder of alec paul weyrich who worked on the reagan campaign and most recently on the george w. bush campaign although he died last year but the sky is you know i don't want to i don't want people to vote he said that clip is just chilling to me as somebody who believes in democracy i mean essentially he's saying i want to pick the voters so i can determine who wins elections and that's not democracy so what's your prognosis for the future of your lawsuit and what are you going to do. whether you win or lose how do you how do you what's the next step i believe that we will be successful in convincing the federal courts to stop this purge as you may know the department of justice has also come in and told florida at our we send this information to the apartment of justice a couple of weeks ago and last week they told florida and no one certain terms that
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you need to stop this purge that violates the voter registration act as well as the voting rights act and but in the meantime even if the court stop it all of the chaos and confusion and intimidation that's been caused by this is part of what i think is the goal and i think the federal courts need to be stronger in preventing this because we see the same shenanigans every election cycle and i understand three hundred thousand voters have been knocked off the texas rolls so far in the last few months and that's because of the photo id yes and back in two thousand and eight it was over three to fifty thousand in colorado i mean this is just it's like a cancer spreading across the country that's exactly right i mean. there is no reason not to make voting easy easy and accessible if you really want everybody who's eligible to vote then let them vote. on their thank you so much and they keep up the great work thank you very much for being here it's pretty obvious why governor rick scott is refusing to end his illegal voter purge it's because you no
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longer thinks it's worth answering to the nation's democratically elected federal government instead he and other republican governors around the nation answer now to the newly entrenched oligarchy of the united states headed up by people like the koch brothers. for more on florida's voter purge and other big political stories of the week it's time to turn to our monday politics panel joining me tonight are sam sax progressive writer and commentator and horoscope or conservative commentator and senior fellow at the national center for public policy research thank you both for joining me tonight if you can see it again horace. governor rick scott is what i was just talking and then to hear about is so far ignoring the d.o.j. request although his office has said that he will let us all know by wednesday what they're going to do. even though he's apparently in violation of the voting rights act but what about this will new connection with the koch brothers and and and rick scott's office and all this kind of stuff is this is this just a horse isn't this just a right wing effort to fix the election of
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a lot of the say the same way that kathleen harris did it you guys are interested you have to say things that make me laugh here are the facts the social security administration is using a list of floater florida residents and they have determined that a number of those individuals will no longer be able to receive checks the very same list of people who can't receive social security checks when run against the florida voter rolls revealed a sizable number of people who are still listed so we're to believe that it's ok for them to vote but it's not ok for the obama administration to cut off their checks or vice versa i don't understand what the problem is there are you ok governor scott is using data from about two thousand to two thousand and the lists that he's compiling of these supposed boaters who are illegal. ninety nine percent vast majority are legal citizens of four hundred names they found fourteen who actually were flagged as non-citizens and when they were not flagged as
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non-citizens they were flagged my understanding is correct and correct me if i'm wrong but they were flagged as ineligible to vote where they're registered to vote i mean in many cases it might be that you're supposed to be reading it was to actually that were they were tagged as non-citizens other stuff like that i mean the story is here is there is no such thing really it's a bogeyman is going to let your republican paul and i don't let you the secretary of state former secretary of state of indiana unless you're newt gingrich not have a card of people on social security on social security because they're on disability they're no longer on disability they should get checks anymore does that mean they shouldn't vote anymore you know social security said that they are not alive around to receive these checks and that's why they're terminated but there's a simple way of this get resolved the department of homeland security janet napolitano could open up the database and verified the names that florida says are ineligible because they're no longer either they were citizens or they're not alive she could use the national database and verify this this whole issue could go away
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what we're doing right now is creating an environment where there will be hundreds of thousands of people who are not actually eligible to vote who are going to show up and influence the outcome every going to knows that it's already had close race it happens all the times and that it's and laid out here of i mean studies have been done about this lots of people have looked into this this crisis of voter fraud and they found it doesn't exist you know more people get struck by lightning voter than than people who commit voter fraud it's an increase you know you want to look at are the number of arrests and prosecutions across the state are unprecedented in terms of there is no no in the state of virginia for instance they just did i was huge series of arrests involving in the effort to pay several hundred ex convicts to go and i mean illegally vote. we are seeing problems in places like detroit and places like walking by and places like and all of that i find would vote knowing that he'd go back to jail while they were told that they
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was ok too by the people who are now arrested you can go to the richmond times dispatch and you can see the series of articles that they did right around the same time that the legislature was voting on it they did their exposé it turns out and what was most damaging about this i thought was that they were impersonating black so it was my norah t.'s who are being disenfranchised having their votes taken from them by illegal voters this is a real problem it happens and we ought to be on guard about it is it worth throwing off a thousand eligible voters to make sure one person no one else is going to vote not at all but the opposite is also not true it should not be the case that we allow a thousand ghost voters to come in just because we're concerned about one individual or a grouch. download
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welcome back to tonight's politics panel joining me our sam sex progressive writer and commentator and horace cooper conservative commentator and senior fellow at the national center for public policy research let's go back to a friday we saw a disappointing jobs report although in a way you know the there's the it seems like an upside to it we've got it we've got a graph here that show you this this is you know the bush administration jobs crashing then obama comes into office and the stimulus bill gets passed and we see this uptrend we're in positive territory all this time not the very best positive territory but at least we're not down there were bush was so. republicans are out talking not about the fact that we've had twenty seven months twenty seven months
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of continuous positive net positive job creation in the private sector but instead you know oh you know isn't this terrible horris when republicans are talking about the. crash of the economy aren't they bragging. once again here's the problem the number of jobs that are necessary to get us back to where we were before they fail under the bush administration still are we would require two hundred fifty thousand jobs a month to be created and we're nowhere near those numbers and that's the reason why the complaints are out there republicans could talk all day long it would have no impact it's the very fact that real the republicans can feel lost or a piece of legislation that says that if you bring jobs back from overseas into the united states you get a tax break and by the way we're not going to continue giving you tax breaks for same jobs off shore they were filibuster that piece of legislation that's killing another million jobs the united states it's either that republicans are bragging or
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the have a fundamental misunderstanding about how economics works and i'm not sure which is worse you know they have fundamental disagreement and the issue that this administration should be looking at is one of two hour. options when they had a democrat controlled congress and the white house in their hands they had the ability to push through any measure that they wanted to know if you know they had a for a bill or buster proof majority and they kind of pushed it through it was the democrats who failed to take on many of them were that they were never sixty down by so if i say to you two is four and you say to post who is five we don't have a fundamental disagreement you're just flat out wrong and that's what republicans are doing and you know that the high handed attitude is the approach that mr obama took while they had a majority wants after two thousand and ten they no longer had those super sized majorities they have now had to sit down and deal with republicans who say i have a diff when they have a year already and you're going to have to when they had a majority they passed a stimulus which got us into that positive territory on the graph that i just showed since that time that stimulus that the nameless may have had some effect in
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creating man the overwhelming regulatory agenda of this administration is the reason that those numbers are at two hundred fifty thousand the regime in the last eighteen months this president could have just stood up and issued say temporary complete all they want let's see it let's let's see the make what is our marketable is that it is believed by so many of the progressives that there's this magic regulation that heretofore didn't exist before two thousand and nine but for the world was going to come crashing to an end it is that reason that those job numbers look as poor as they do we're going to have given a ruling this to compromise and negotiate they could have reduced side regulation this. this is nothing to do with regulations regulations are not the reason why companies aren't hiring people companies aren't hiring people because nobody is buying their products there is no demand we keep having this debate every time i come on the program say as law says supply creates its own demand but we have swimming pool regulations we have food regulations we have which we've had for
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decades now no new ones that keep getting added on and on and on that is if you have near decade this new excerpts. there is no doubt of the correlation between where everyone who owns a swimming forest didn't have to have a elevator when the when that when that when the congressional budget office looked into the cost of regulations and whether they create it whether they created or her jobs what they found was that regulations create jobs if you say sorry koch brothers you can't emit mercury from the from the smokestacks of your refineries now they've got to hire somebody to put together a mercury scrubber they've got to hire somebody to install they've got to hire somebody to monitor it they just created jobs regulations on that actually create jobs and it's absolutely not true of the phoenix center of washington d.c. based organization did a study and on their cost the average regulation cost nearly a million dollars in the average of my era where there's a million dollars because they have to pay those damn jobs that they hired to put that scriber up there you know yours now and then yours does new jobs if you are
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going to cause during the worst economic situation that we've experienced in r.l. it sounds not you know and i'm sorry this is not as bad as it was during reagan reagan unemployed all this is not true ten point eight percent unemployment may have been figurative listed higher but the actual impacted the number of americans who are out of work are higher and omar they are higher they're what is my point we have a worse situation today and then we did them well that's because also reagan boosted public spending hired tons of government workers which is the opposite of what's we're probably going to have allowed president obama to do so far to go to the retired south carolina justice john paul stevens the justice who loved his son citizens united says the citizens united is not going to stand the test of time. this year republican operatives like the koch brothers the the former head of the bush white house you know karl rove i find it amazing that the bush white house is at the three hundred million dollars is leading the charge against obama nobody's talking about it is the bush white house and karl rove and the chamber of commerce
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have pledged over a billion dollars to defeat obama walker in scott walker in wisconsin is outspending tom barrett seven to one. i had tomorrow's race should we just change the rules now post citizens united since you know the billionaires are going to probably spend twice as much on the national election to spend seven times as much in the governor's election and just kind of handicap it say whoever you know since since there has been outspent seven to one whoever gets more than thirteen percent of vote wins. whoever gets well if barry gets one thirteen percent of the vote he wins because he's found out by he's only spending thirteen percent of the money. you guys run multi millionaires and billionaires for governor of new jersey and then they really believe that it worked out so well didn't work out so well for new jersey it didn't work out so well for taxpayers but my point is it's a free society people are allowed to run if they want to put their resources in they're allowed to says united stands for the proposition that. organization any really are you know by the large organizations are allowed to bring their resources
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to their it's their elections are better off now we can have billions of dollars and i think our campaign i think our campaign superstructure regulation process has been a tire complete and total felt so you want a free for all to work people going to spend a billion dollars seventies those regulations and rules have just been a complete and told us where we should go back to nixon taking five hundred thousand dollars bribes and suitcases orrible kennedy's doing a million dollars in suitcases you could have whichever one of those regulations recorded on one of those resolutions and it looks to us today and last regulations i want to drive back as a listener as a vice president the idea that resources don't follow support that resources create somehow magically support people aren't going to give people aren't going to contribute they're not going to use their own resources unless it's something that they are actually committed about that's the truth of the matter and programs if you are going to tie it inside or out here financing if somebody has to are if somebody has one hundred thousand supporters versus somebody who has one supporter
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but that one supporters a billionaire the person with a one supporter might be able to outspend the person with one hundred thousand supporters fifty to one thousand to one that has nothing to do is all that has to do with the legal resources to persuade people in america that's what the citizens united case stands for so no i have not yet seen anyone bringing in a suitcases of cash and handing them to anyone but it happened on both sides what i'm saying is the progressive solution that was presented as a sought to solve the problem hasn't worked we're going. you know what it what if what if we gave everybody the same time the same resource and it was determined on the ideas and the better vision that i could use in kennedy like say the two thousand and eight race where mr obama decided not to accept public dollars but mr mccain did obama no it's not like anyone at all when you think it was because of that not because of a more attractive vision i think that that really well that's an interesting thing so here's a question speaking of suitcases of cash grover norquist is a multimillionaire and a lobbyist and. he's he's out there freaked out right now and how do you convince
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a republican to raise taxes tell him that it's for defense right six hundred billion dollars in cuts to the pentagon because of there were pushed by the republicans you know if you that if the supercommittee doesn't do its deal we're going to have these automatic cuts now there's going to be the automatic cuts grover norquist is all freaked out lindsey because lindsey graham is talking about raising taxes so what do we do how how how our why are republicans willing to raise taxes to keep the war machine going but not willing to raise taxes for food stamps i think it's a glimpse into their morality i would say here you have forty nine million people in poverty fifty million people without health insurance you have economic crisis in america but we will not raise taxes help these people however at the fence contractors in virginia want to build unnecessary jet plane engines then for sure let's raise taxes to make sure the defense contractors get their corporate vote on a gun doesn't want two thousand and nine two thousand and ten you guys have super majorities in both houses and the white house and you didn't address those problems
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so if as serious as you claim they are they didn't get addressed then i'm not going to take responsibility and i don't believe the republicans ought to take responsibility for what i wanted to say when i was there with what i did i will tell you where it is it is is that i don't anticipate that we're going to state tax hike associated with the defense budget as well i imagine that we are going to see after the elections are over an aggressive effort to come up with additional savings and other parts of the government to prevent those things happening in the . in the defense budget and that's it is going to take the money out of out of the mouths of hungry kids and give it to the defense contractor you talk to your own progressive colleagues about why they're going to go along with that. requires the cost do you think is what i want isn't this going to be bipartisan that going to happen we have a penalty says yes well the constitution places defense of this nation its national security at the center of its responsibilities and these other things actually are also says that you can fund anything you want for forever except for the military
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which you can only fund for two years because there was this big debate about father's about whether we shouldn't avid standing our bet is going to be missed so well ok we're out of that sam sachs chorus cooper thank you both. crazy alert summer is coming let's get naked that's what many in seattle are saying as the city prepares to welcome summer the same way it does each year with naked body art covered bicyclists every year dozens of naked painted cyclists take part in the fremont souls this parade for the usually braved the not so summer like conditions of rain and nippy temperatures up they don't use water based paint but while it sounds like a real blast riding in the buff for thousands to see does come with a set of rules that must be followed including they'll be creepy don't stare at people and be respectful of parade spectators the fremont soles this parade is
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a family friendly event course folks expected the painted cyclists but they do not want. junk and kids' faces use good judgment when interacting with spectators yes those are real guidelines to follow from the fremont souls this parade website rumor has it newt gingrich and human herman cain will both be participating in this year's event rick santorum declined the invitation. after the break republicans already want women to have shady back alley abortions after they unwillingly get pregnant but now they want them to make less money it works to why republicans continue in their war on women how women respond to them for a large. there
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