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already know that there has been very great success in the talks between the leaders of the countries we are expecting lots of different talks between the leaders of the member states all during the day also expecting very many important meetings on the sidelines of the summit which will be lasting for two days for today and tomorrow thursday here in beijing and during which we are expecting very important and crucial meetings between. the presidents of ghana stan and iran something which we of course will be bringing more information on as soon as we get it and this will probably be the main focus of this summit of the shanghai cooperation organization certainly this summit comes just a day after the start of official state visit to china. during which these sites have managed to sign very many very important agreements and listing economic ties and military ties and definitely the most important thing that the countries beijing and moscow have managed to exchange their views on many different global
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policy issues and reported that they have been seeing eye to eye on all those issues in particular certainly the growing military strength of the united states in the asian pacific region something which greatly concerns china russia is agreeing with beijing on that matter and certainly the developments in the middle east even if we didn't mention that that russia and china are see eye to eye on the syrian conflict and as we know china and russia have been we have all been saying about coffin and speech plan that must be implemented as the only solution peaceful solution to the ongoing syrian conflict now a definitely such strong relations between beijing and moscow have been causing some concerns in the west primarily because china is a growing developing developing state with its economy and military being stronger every year certainly the corporations such very strong cooperation between russia and china is concerning many in the west but as far as we understood. from speeches
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by both the chinese and russian leaders. put in respectively this cooperation will only strengthen it will not die down and that's the way it's going to stay for the next three years we are following certainly all the interesting developments during the summit in the next two days here and we'll be bringing all the latest information to our viewers as soon as we get it. thank you very much there that's a look see at a chef sees correspondent who's in beijing at the moment. and film on the certificate partners meeting we're now joined live from chicago by international affairs commentator and manager of stop made to now break good good to see you they say hi cooperation organization meeting takes off in beijing now europe's in financial meltdown what developments pal we expect from the new economic powerhouse in the east. as we know this is the twelfth summit that will the head of state meeting of the shanghai cooperation organization which created in two thousand and one to place matters in perspective we have to recall that with not only the four
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six members of the c.e.o. but with the fact that in two thousand and five india pakistan iran and mongolia are world were welcomed as observer nations. and so on of course go over this in sri lanka to become what are called dialogue partners there's been discussion i have of the summit and was to get a bounce out that afghanistan may join is that as the observer and turkey may join as a dialogue partner but even as currently constituted the shanghai cooperation organization is collective population. of the human rights of the land my house of a c.e.o. members and observers states sixty percent of the eurasian lamb house so this is a very important organization and it's one that still even twelve years after its foundation stone the embryo stage in many many ways and one bad one suits forward war and comes into the world in earnest it's going to be one of the most important developments in the story. now the open eyes ation has gained strength and
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a forward to the sense that it was set up in two thousand and one can you see it becoming an eastern rival to the e.u. in the future. i think it is not one that talks about rivalry as a matter of fact you know the shanghai principles are very explicit. indorsing nonintervention in the under internal affairs of other nations nonaligned months non-confrontational approach to regional and ultimately international affairs so it will not be an economic rival in the sense of the european union nor as it's been talked about for several years is of a military alternative to the north atlantic treaty organization i would suggest that it is a useful economic security cultural and that's another factor i think needs to be explored the cultural foundations of the c.e.o. that it's a different model of regional acknowledgment leading international affairs that is one that does not rely on military force or on dick starts foreign pressure or in
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prostitution but rather on cooperation and you know complementing the each country complementing strains of the other you know we have to recall. russia iran and observer nation of the c.e.o. in the central asian states that are members of the c.e.o. turkmenistan is also do a down and so that i can just. have fifty percent of the world's natural gas they have over you know the c.e.o. over the past decade or so is engaged in any number of transportation type knology economic energy and other initiatives bilateral i'm going to quote more collective and it has a potential for suggesting to the world something you know the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov was quoted yesterday saying international affairs have reached a turning point and he mentioned the economic crisis of the past four years website emanated from and was generated by the white house certainly suggesting it's time for a new model not only of security but of economics of politics of international relations
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with all the c.e.o. stands as that organization which particularly but does explain how we know. that india pakistan and iran have officially asked to become full members of the c.e.o. but we should also be called three years ago exactly at the summit in two thousand and nine and your counter rainbird russia not only the one of the heads of state of the c.e.o. members of observer states president i did let me just interrupt you there because i just wanted to touch on a little bit more about talking about dad trading with the east and so forth because president putin chose china for his state visit early in his third term presidency what does this say about russia's foreign policy priorities at the moment well we know that two years ago trying to became russia's largest straight party you know outstripping other nations in the former soviet union as well as germany and other european nations so it's clearly the emergent economies in the world or in the east and in the south and the west as you alluded to in relation to
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the european union is very much in decline and i was going to mention that you know the summit three years ago was concurrently one of the first ever meeting about how this of state of what were then the bric nations brazil russia india and china so there's an emerging coalition of the world major nations again which complement each other in every respect some are energy producers some are energy consumers and so forth but what we're seeing is a new model for non-confrontational nonmilitary collaborative efforts on the shanghai cooperation organization which i sincerely hope does expand to take a new members as well as observers and dialogue partners lawmakers one more question just before we let you go because we're running out of time here now what do you was planning to relocate a huge chunk of its navy to the asia pacific does china have good reason to be looking. with russia just in brief yes of course it does and it. you know the security cooperation in russia and china parallels are you know economic and other
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forms of cooperation china needs and how i like russia or. thank you so much are make a run off the international affairs comment. off stop and they test. now the u.s. and its allies are preparing for a serious transition of power the white house says president assad handing control to the opposition will help bring an end to fifteen months of bloodshed a number of western and arab states have long been pushing for regime change but assad has maintained his nation's real war comes from outside meanwhile reports have emerged suggesting britain is planning to set up camps in syria where troops and agents will help the rebels of fight against the government middle east expert and to wreak leave believes a foreign powers are largely responsible for the country's die a situation where the americans vassal state slow growth some talk about transition what effectively mean is regime change that is what they did
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in libya with dire consequences wreaking see american crew today in syria the plan to bring both sides to the table and have a negotiated settlement is obviously the best way to move forward but the united states and britain and their other red lights have absolutely no pressure on the other side to come to them negotiate negotiating table and start a process of storms so it would appear to me that what we now have is an endgame situation where the united states has decided to remove this regime and will use everything in a spot to do so tens of thousands of egyptians relit in cairo and she stay as the round of clock demonstrations throughout the country went into the fourth night in a row people are calling for retrial abbas of president hosni mubarak and his
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former security officials egypt islamists are expected to use of the rally to score points for their presidential candidate who's up against mubarak's last prime minister in the run up time bought and was in the tahrir square. thousands of protesters have converged here a race where in the center of cairo you can hear the sounds of protests reverberating around the square around me a real feeling of anger in the streets tonight and it's primarily focused around the verdict in the mubarak trial hosni mubarak egypt's former president is now going to spend the rest of his life in prison it seems unless the protesters get their way at least some of them wanting to do a bit more of a back door knocks and to give him the death penalty and what really set them off was six of his senior security officials who were acquitted of involvement in the deaths of hundreds of protesters in egypt's revolution last year this also added
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tension around these protests because very shortly egypt will enter the second round of its presidential elections but many people here expressing a lot of frustration they see the choice in those elections as being really no choice that's all one candidate mohammed morsi is from the muslim brotherhood he's been trying to garner support here at the protest going around the crowds saying that if he was elected president he would drag mubarak back to trial and try and how often executed which has struck a chord with some of the protesters however he has received criticism from a wide wide number of groups as well they see the muslim brotherhood as religiously conservative and warn that they may try and hijack this revolution the other bit shafique is mubarak's last prime minister and a former air force officer the protesters just as angry about him they say that he
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could well be or should well be god for standing in these presidential elections but his links to the old regime are simply. to close and he's going to have a lot of convincing to do to try and make people believe that he's not in with the old regime and the military council ruling out the moment this atmosphere has brought people out not just here in the capital but all over egypt this was intended to be a million man march tonight we're not sure whether a million of it turned out it just seems that it's not many but it certainly is a huge protest and a real really ignition of the spirit of protest against what is seen as very little change compared to what was wanted for last year's revolution as a presidential election runoff approaches that made mass protests more people are
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saying that egypt should not hold an election until it has a new constitution political groups and the military council arguing over who's going to write the document and to explore the situation in egypt further we're now joined live by dr khan hallinan contributing editor for foreign policy in focus welcome mr holland then now we've seen the protests going on for four days in a row now into the square people's reaction to hosni mubarak sentence is very strong does this give the muslim brotherhood and its presidential candidate the upper hand. well i do think that. something like sixty percent of the electorate did vote for one or another of the two islamists. candidates one of them course a moderate islamist me other morsi is a more conservative candidate i think the important thing was that sixty five percent of the people voted against the old regime in some form or another and i think that the demonstrations reflect two things one there are certainly anger at
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the decision around mubarak and also around a lot of the officials that are involved in it but also true that people feel sort of disenfranchised about fifty percent of the people didn't vote for either shafiq or morsi but they don't have a choice in this upcoming election. now egypt is going to the polls in less than ten days that however many claim that neither of the candidates really represent the people what does this mean for the upcoming election and what kind of reaction do you expect on the streets of egypt that's a very good question i'll be very frank i really don't know i know that at this point of course morsi and some of the other candidates are trying to get shafique removed from the candidates list because this is what the legislature voted to do in which the military council passed on and then were overlooked by the constitutional court so the question is is is he going to stay on the list if he doesn't stay on the list they have to run the election again because it will be one
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candidate out there so i think it's very fluid at this point my concern is that if the military or the police decide to provoke something with the demonstrators then you might have a shift in the direction of feet because people are concerned about the bill of the exciter that's what i was going to ask you in terms of the military council you know there's concern that it might try to love its own agenda to hold on to power in the country how real is the threat i think it's real. i think for instance if your feet is removed then of course you have no choice but that the military council stays in valor so i do think that the military has set things up in such a way that they will continue as a major force how much of a major force i think depends on those people who are out there in the squares and what finally comes out of this selection keep in mind these demonstrations did not
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start over the question of democracy they started over a question of bread of unemployment poverty except for a so this is not just about roses this is about bridge and that is not going away how that will work itself out in this final set of elections i'm not certain it's going to be very fluid now let's talk about the constitution it hasn't yet been made ten with these lemons dominating in parliament how much authority do they wield to push through the agenda well of course whoever is elected president will have an enormous impact on what that concept of that document finally looks like which is why there's such a tense competition over this presidential election with the constitutional process deadlock then the president's going to have a major role if morsi is elected i think you're going to see a strong kind of islamist system edge to that constitution which should seek this is a representative of. really
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a military dictatorship and i see at it as a real blow to democracy it's very unclear where things are going it's lemmas parties dominate in tunisia there's a fifty percent chance for a radical islamist to head to egypt as well how does this reflect the values of the arab spring which was supposed to bring democratic values to these countries. certainly but again i i do think that people need to to remember that most of these demonstrations and particular ones that you mention it in egypt these speak again over high youth unemployment over poverty over the gap between rich and poor over corruption except for those things are all part of the arab spring as well and i think we've tended to concentrate on that democracy a little more because that's something that the west looks at it as something that is important but i do think that the other issues are in many ways just as
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important to the majority of people in those countries how does that work out in in practice how does that work out through these elections again i'm not certain but i do think that your point is correct that democracy is was certainly a major goal here and again i do think we need to be careful the election was for wall accounts a pretty fair election. again sixty five percent of people voted against the old regime there was a little bit more than fifty percent who voted for either the leftist candidate the moderate islamists or the civil rights attorney so i do think that when you compare democracy now in egypt to the way it was three years ago i don't think there's any comparison there's been a huge advance in democracy well let's leave it right they thank you very much dr conn hallinan contributing editor for foreign policy in focus dot uk.
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reza stadium has approved a new law that ramps up fines one hundred fifty times for participating in organizing unsanctioned protests the final sitting made a new record lasting eleven hours the law now has to be puzzled by the upper house of the russian parliament. brings us at the background to the highly debated proposal. the state duma approved the changes to the law that were put forward by the ruling party united russia now this would see stiff the penalties put in place for those courts taking part in un sanctions rallies or demonstrations in russia know the way it works before this law was if you were caught taking part in an unsanctioned under a just a demonstration you would face a fine of around sixty euro all fifteen days in a jail cell this new chase these changes to the law would see those fines drastically up to seven thousand a year oh no these proposals to
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a whipped up a storm amongst opposition here in russia not just the politicians but online in the blogosphere many people writing about what they saw as draconian changes to the law that were being put forward by the opposition politicians trying to drag out the debate in the state duma to see if they could lead to late this decision it's no gone through to the upper house of the russian parliament where it'll be discussed further before becoming nor now those defending this of these proposed changes to the law defended it by saying well this just brings russia into line with the rest of its european neighbors in france for example if you take part in an unsanctioned demonstration and you're wearing a mosque or anything that could obscure a part of your face you could face a fine of up to forty five thousand euro as well as of this three years in prison in switzerland not find can get as high as seventy five thousand euro now these
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changes to the law were put in place following a wave of unseat government protests that we've seen here in moscow as well as in other cities around russia following really the the parliamentary elections that were held in december of last year now on the holos demonstrations of being held in conducted in a peaceful manner however this spring we saw things turned a little bit nasty we've seen protesters clashing with police. so is number of police officers actually being injured in those clashes and the lawmakers deciding that putting in place stiffer penalties for those taking part in the un sanctioned demonstrations would deter me more from doing so and try and put a stop to the violent clashes and try to make sure that those violent clashes that we have seen wouldn't happen again and those people trying to make these streets of russia's cities safe would be safe themselves while they're doing so. and coming up next artie's guy in education talks to indian economists out of india sobre money
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and about the contrasts in economic agendas in u.s. china and russia china relations. i'm sitting down with arvind subramanian leading economist fellow at the peterson institute for international economics and the center for global development his book is called eclipse living in the shadow of china's economic dominance and here you see president obama vowing that chinese leader. is a really dominating i mean many in the u.s. would say that the u.s. is still the richest country in the wall that is the most powerful economy at the moment china's g.d.p. for example is smaller than that of the united states. but if you measure it in terms of purchasing power it's as big as the united states one second china is already the world's largest trader. three china is
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a be there to creditor to the world it finances the u.s. and the u.s. is a debtor so it's this combination of the size of the economy the fact is a big trader and the fact that it's a creditor confers on a lot of power today and over the next ten fifteen years all these numbers are going to go in china's favor so the china is going to become an even bigger economy than the u.s. and even bigger treated in the u.s. and continue to be you know financing the u.s. so that combination is what is making china very dominant let me give you one example one example so pick the fact that china you know finances the u.s. right or to so much cash three point three trillion dollars worth of cash if europe gets into trouble you know it happen which country in the world has the ability to be allowed to your the united states china because this three trillion dollars and
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when it has the power or that ability it can always exercise power. what could be political ramifications that as far as crucial foreign policy issues for example over syria will the u.s. pay more attention to what china thinks about certain issues will it take you down for example i think it's you know the u.s. wants china to be on its site and you know if china were to sit take north korea for example you know it's a great example you know if china were on the side of the u.s. . things would be so much easier but the fact that china has an independent view on north korea makes chinese american dealings with north korea that much more difficult in fact in my book i begin my book with a kind of fantasy scenario where i say that you know ten years from now if the united states gets into so much economic trouble right that it will have to borrow money and if china has the money to provide the u.s.
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china might say well we don't like your military presence in the pacific you're naval presence and you have to you know get rid of that sort economic power can always be leveraged for political and foreign policy objectives the things that one of the reasons not to get for kind of anxious about this is that it is a mutually dependent relationship you know so one country doesn't want to inflict too much damage on the other because it backfires on yourself but that being said there are areas where you know some countries you know china has more power and it could use that too and i mean like for example as i said you're on north korea or iran or you know the fact it's just so much financial power and economic power can always be used for political ends but isn't that a good thing in a sense that there it restores some kind of balance when there is not just one kid on the block ruling everything but there is
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a kid consulting with everyone else because it is dependent on another and that's a good point. but you know they can be two views on the straight one view was that after world war two the u.s. was able to determine how the global economic system would function right and it had a liberal view you know there should be more free flow of goods and services and so on which everyone benefited from and the country that benefited most from that was china you know the fact that markets were open some would say that if you have one big good guy maybe it's better than having multiple guys who kind of conduct relating to the i.m.f. it's traditionally been dominated by europe and the united states it was set up that way and he here you have this massive. countries and you have. nine years on countries to contribute more resources to the i.m.f. to help them out do you think this current crisis could change the way the i.m.f.
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works sort of shift the centers of power it's a very good question i think to some extent it's happening already it's happening already because you know the formal voting is still very much biased as you said in favor of europe and united states but the more the more europe gets into trouble the more it will need money from the outside you know. frankly the border was. don't have power or creditors call the shots and at that stage we know europe starts weakening and it needs money from the outside and if china and russia and brazil have the money to provide it they would ask for you know changing the system they will have more power if you don't do these things we don't give you the money so when you become weak you know it's inevitable that power shifts away from you and that's what the european crisis is actually galvanizing changes in the
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international institutions thank you. moscow and beijing us to mention their strong relations as a bludgeon made putin is on a high profile visit to the east an economy discussing shed positions on international issues. tens of thousands of egyptians are rallied in cairo and she's day on the fourth night of demonstrations calling for the execution of ousted president hosni mubarak. and the u.s. prepares its news for you judy and that's on to as his contacts say interrogated apparently in an attempt to get information about the world's most notorious whistleblower the latest installment of his show is pm airing right here. up next on the story of a modern day out low and his one man crusade to protect america's border with mexico state.
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we had to earn it i mean we have to earn it every single day of our lives we have to get up every morning we have to go to work and you know we have to pay our bills and we have to do it and that's just the american dream and if you want the american dream you have to go by the law so i figure welcome like the great granddaughters when they were. yes yes. well we're all the immigrant we're all immigrants as well that we all came from somewhere else and there's a tolerance where there's only so much the united states can accept without severe economic consequence. i'm not afraid never have been i'm not writing that flag has been up here for your honor and i will. keep that flag up there believe me thirty five feet from the mexican border and the most.

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