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fifty thousand pages of documents raw data reports algorithms all used in their research research that was thoroughly vetted and as committee explained it september of two thousand and ten in congressional testimony. you know order to avoid subjective boise's or actually misrepresentation we've made a conscious conscious decision to present findings publicly only after scientific theory rigorous vetting or peer review. now despite all that this massive dump of documents wasn't enough for b.p.c. the company commanded or demanded via subpoena access to private e-mails between the two scientists and the presiding judge granted this request despite recognizing that it might act as a deterrent to future research so why welcomingly and ready explained that the consequences of the subpoena could have consequences subpoena could have in a boston globe that you see in the deliberative process scientists challenge each other they poke holes in theories in order to make their final conclusions as airtight as possible and the intrusion on the deliberative process naturally didn't
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sit well with chameleon ready they summed up their frustrations with this process by saying the following our experience highlights a virtually all of scientists deliberative communications could be subject to legal proceedings without limitation incomplete thoughts and half finished documents attached to e-mails can be taken out of context and punished by people who have a motive for discrediting the findings in addition to obscuring true scientific findings this situation casts a chill over the scientific process and future crises scientists may censor or avoid deliberations and more importantly be reluctant to volunteer valuable expertise and technology that emergency responders don't possess so thanks to b.p. oil companies won't just be able to attack science by funding bogus climate change deniers any more now they'll be able to intimidate scientists through legal maneuvers which are actually stifle the scientific process so researchers fear their developed. liberations could be taken out of context in court this is what
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can happen now moreover the two also noted that b.p. has access to their technology and while the court imposed a confidentiality agreement in the company the burden of making sure it's enforced is entirely upon the woods hole institute so all the memory of the b.p. oil spill might be far from the minds of many americans these days you should realize that the legal battles here are far from over and this time the science that helps us analyze the damages could be in jeopardy. well u.s. drone strikes in pakistan are being launched in waves just yesterday we told you about strikes that killed twenty seven people over just three days that included targeting mourners and rescuers today u.s. officials said that al qaeda is number two man. alevi was one of those who was killed while the strikes were touted as success over here not exactly the case in pakistan say pakistan some in the u.s. envoy to the foreign ministry where they say that he was quote informed of the drone strikes were unlawful against international law and
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a violation of pakistan's sovereignty but of course the biggest question here is if getting number two even makes any difference joining me to discuss is retired lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior national security advisor with the national task the task force on national and homeland security and author of the book operation dark heart tony thanks so much for joining us tonight now i mean you want to talk about drone strikes a lot don't we and we were talking about the kill list last week but in terms of you know i'm curious as to what you think about when we see more inners being targeted with drone strikes and we see rescuers being targeted with drone strikes how does the cia the obama administration how do they justify something like that. well there's two problems with it i think first everything i'm hearing about that way they're doing this quote unquote deliberative process is flawed. they are willing to launch these attacks on information which we would have never done things in zero three zero four relating to going after targets i'm hearing that
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they're launching with as little as forty percent evidence of assurance that this is a bad guy or this group is doing something untoward that's not a way to run a road what you're doing frankly is creating the next generation of terrorists by the fact you're killing people who did nothing more nothing more sinister than being born in pakistan so i think this is where we're making huge mistakes secondly the process itself is now being controlled by the white house and this is as we talked about last week the quote the twenty first century a clip equivalent of l.b.j. you know lyndon baines johnson president johnson in one nine hundred sixty added rice paddies in his annual walk as in making tactical calls in washington for vietnam a says the same thing just done of a larger global scale with better technology we have not gotten any smarter now is i will say this about the libby attack today this is one of those times i would have taken the shot because this guy was truly bad he was captured in two thousand
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to two thousand and five propaganda guy very effective in messaging and frankly he was the commander control no doing a lot of things but let me be very clear on is so what you know because i don't be consistent here i've never said we shouldn't do drone strikes i said we should be very very sparing in how we do it this would have been one of those i would have taken the shot but the rest of them i don't think i would have done based on the fact we didn't have good intelligence and frankly how many number twos can you kill a year i mean i think this is a legit number two the other one you've got to worry about you've got to ask hard question why would they do it when they were well that's what i want to get it you know get into next is yeah people are talking about that all the time having ever to think al who's the number three guy in al-qaeda nobody knows right because. there's always going to be a new one popping up and so in that sense i mean you know how effective is it going to be now the olivea is out of the picture or is there just going to be a new number tomorrow. this headline misadventure it happened
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a year ago if we were really you know pushing the. pakistanis cooperating we could have got this guy frank we should have done one zoe here is the current head of. which i said to get this guy we had to go through a lot of missteps rather is you seeing a surge over the past few weeks because they've been launching attacks where they thought this guy was mark he was injured in one a few weeks ago i think about ten days ago according to what i was told. and they were they were getting closer and closer to him but the problem is yes we're killing innocent people along the way so it's kind of like you know you're you would never have a new york city cop running down the street shooting randomly to get one bad guy one perpetrator this is why we have to be a lot more precise and the second factor you know i talk about this i'm going to tell exhaust i want to capture people a lot i want to understand what that guy knows and thanks and i want to understand the network and because i want to keep the network and the roots of why the network exists where the simply playing whack a mole because whack a mole will get you what you're going to get now this guy will be replaced we're
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here is still out there and i predict six months from now right before the november election you're going to hear more about us making great progress on against al qaeda i mean this is the emir we were making great progress but it never seems he didn't want to or we have made the progress that are now winning and don't have and can start ratcheting back well because we just keep hearing the word progress right but it's that i know nobody ever actually gives you full statistics or figures there and stats now i just want to you know switch really quickly to because you're e-mailing us earlier today about the other is that bill brought up by walter jones that was meant to really limit the president's war making power in the sense that i would say that it's an impeachable offense if you're going to try to use these powers without consulting congress and i think we saw a great example of that great not being an actual term when it came to live the american but does anything like that even apply when it comes to the drone program . well it has to let's be very clear on this the drone program has made the technology available to decision makers to pull politicians to make killing more
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easy and this is very coarse but i mean if you ever watch the videos of how we fly these drones it's like a video game so it's become very passe it's like yeah we can do it so we should do simply having the capability means that we have to be much more responsible both legally and operationally h r one has said which referring to is something that walter jones going to put forward i'm on his side on this i think we ought to have a hearing talking about the the extent of presidential power to basically set up its own assassination what i'm thinking about if if vice president cheney was in the white house running an assassination program of this magnitude during the bush white house the left would be up in arms about it and we don't see that right now so this is where i think walter jones as a conservative is actually doing the right thing here saying we've got to take a step back and look at what this presidential power really mean when it comes to assassination especially on warlock you know you pointed out before his teenage son which no one can explain why his teenage son a u.s. citizen was assassinated in yemen about about this report months ago yeah well i
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mean definitely the outrage coming from the left is not there and before it was it was rumor is right out of cheney and in fact the nation is quiet and i mean definitely that story was all over the place and then when it's a democrat president that's doing it sounding there's we have silence on it tony thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you for having me. well after the break the conservative congressman goes after obama supporter prissie but fails miserably in the process we'll explain it all time and in happy hour the hacktivists wage war against pedophiles and they get a politician to help them out sixteen. with
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the end of the boer war and the going away of the soviet union many people thought that nuclear weapons disappeared. the risk is not zero that something might be going off by mistake specially nuclear weapons on hair trigger alert. to use it as a threat. as an extra bit but you know if you keep spending a trillion dollars a year on weapons of eventually you're going to blow everybody up you you know people are dying from these weapons but until we actually see if people don't wake up the weapons are a bill. that represents all of the firepower of the second world war this. is the equivalent firepower of the world's nuclear arsenal today.
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our guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're giving it to a conservative lawmaker who seems to have a little trouble making comparisons the congressman jeff landry from louisiana is a proud republican he has been working with pat robertson's american center for law and justice challenging the obama administration's stance on contraception surely you guys are members and reflect rush limbaugh slut comment the catholic church is loading it over offering god reserved it so keeping that in mind landry went on jay seculars radio show to keep this outcry going while he tried to attack team obama for mandating that religiously affiliated hospitals and colleges include contraception coverage in their plans he made this really strange comparison. this is an administration who has no problem granting special status or
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waivers to. muslims as they do through t.s.a. screening which of course if they believe. that there is a need to grant them special. special rights as they go through the t.s.a. screening based upon their religion then that's fine i'm ok with that but then don't turn around and attack christians when they stand up and say listen we believe that the policies you're putting in place violate our religious freedoms as well. man i mean when it comes to my opinion i think that it's bad enough to landry's in opposing the contraception rule just last week in oklahoma emergency room refused emergency contraception to a rape victim because a doctor claimed that it violated her beliefs but seriously landry's going to try to compare the contraception issue to ts a screening i mean i hate to be the one to tell you this jeff but your comparison sucks hell it's not even true for starters the t.s.a.
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doesn't grant waivers of any kind everyone to subject of the same screening process unless you count paying extra for the prescreening as a waiver and everyone has to go through the exact same screening in fact it's safe to argue in this post nine eleven era that muslims are targeted way more by the t.s.a. the two thousand and seven study by the pew research center center show that thirty six percent of muslims muslim americans who travel by plane were singled out for special screening in that same year the t.s.a. said the only three percent of all passengers received a pat down during the secondary screening process anyway we see what jeff is trying to do here trying to expose obama's ties to islam he even tries to say that obama prefers muslims to those of christian faith like catholics who oppose the contraception coverage mandate but still an awful comparison at least try to make some sense if you're going to make those claims but get back to me on the point that landrieu made about hypocrisy and the obama administration how big of a deal how big of an issue is this both. in the body politics and among your
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constituents well. down here itself that we did it is. very important are the markets that you see which you know i think i think the biggest problem that a lot of americans have it out there is the parkers to this administration. well jeff you're right there is a lot of hypocrisy over at the white house off the top my head the president is guilty of embracing the revolving door syndrome with lobbyist becoming presidential staffers and vice versa meanwhile the white house website says there's a firm ban on that what about obama's war on whistleblowers he's gone back on his own promise of transparency is labeled just about everything the u.s. does a state secret and an issue of national security and this prosecuting whistleblowers who he once hailed under the espionage act so when it comes to have particular see yeah the president is definitely guilty of it but you picked the wrong example next time jeff just do some homework first because you had so many legitimate obstacles to choose from so we're taking the easy way out just making of scary stories about
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the t.s.a. under the obama administration favoring muslims representative jeff landry if tonight's tool time winner. hi guys it's time for a happy hour and joining me this evening is lauren lyster host of the capital account here on r t and greg roth social commentator for man on the street d.c. dot com are you guys oh we don't have our pens out here for you to take the quiz so you know i'm going to start with a different story first of all somebody brings you pens and in the mean time i think we can talk about my personal favorite topic because there are quite a few stories that go with it today. called space.
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all right there is a lot of space news today i know i don't think i knew you were there although. you know you haven't you don't know me yet but i get really excited about space story so first of all i'm hearing things. first of all i guess let's start with what's happening with with venus today look it's happening right now actually and what is that speech that's see that little got right there if that's green it's it's going to transfer across the face of the sun ulead protective i wear or a telescope like venus glasses that's right you haven't seen it since the. beam of energy going to get on well the thing is i mean it just looks like this tiny little black dot that going across the sun but you won't see it again unless you're still somehow miraculously alive in twenty one seventeen while i am sure i have you that and then i think oh a big cry because i never got to see about tiny dot of venus going to iraq believe
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it or in pairs i think the story is for people who were just too excited by the whole spatial. discovery fly over that was a little too much for them to handle so i'm looking forward to you know a million pictures of it on facebook after. a while making the going to like me and it was really excited about getting to look at it because with the being in a clip it will burn your eyes so you have to look at to wear protective gear. or maybe even people people want to see until twenty one seven hundred not only because they'll be dead but because if they did see it now they'd be blind just through the minds. of the huge universe that were just a tiny little dot in it and so i was being honest in our world and so it was it was viewed as all right let's move on to this quiz that i wanted to give you guys so this comes from a norwegian researcher and so basically it's a quiz to see if you might actually be clinically addicted to facebook what more
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than seven hundred million people around the world now are on facebook and i just realized that you're not even on my book i listen to it because i'm going to be really don't even take the quiz. ok i'm going to ask you six questions and basically you're going to answer either often or never and so it goes how often during the last year have you question over what spent a lot of time thinking about facebook or planned use of facebook. never to use facebook in order to forget about personal problems. but long confused number three felt an urge to use facebook more and more. ok the way there's three more this year more become restless more trouble that you've been prohibited from using facebook or used facebook so much that it's had a negative impact on your job or studies. and try to cut down on the use of
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facebook without success so boring i'm assuming that your as there are never so you're not exciting there's one problem or vice that i don't have i didn't add where are you i guess or never to all of them ok greg are you saying it is such that i can't lie about having an encounter really do count good we're going to find it as far as was the first one the way how much time do i spend do you spend a lot of time thinking about it somewhere between thirty and eighty percent of their i'm going to opt in or never question you couldn't even follow directions the second would be writing. direction on follower. two was what was using it to remember things the point is that are you going to question the year and add it my answer that is zero percent because i use the to not remember things and not to forget about all of the other sounds like i might have to look why it is that you have to answer quizzes odd if you listen to them that thank you and i never take facebook was maybe that was the problem i have been i like to think ok
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five and hopefully my in my two guests and i as well as myself are not clinically addicted to facebook are a lot of people was that i was not that the punchline well they're trying to see if people can actually be addicted to facebook and more of a way of just like laughing about i'm addicted to facebook can i people have been giving it up this is the new problems because they were i think need to go back to space stuff yeah of course i don't hate it just just for a couple minutes highlights but also so the pentagon they're so sneaky they have this secret black budget they don't even have to tell you what's in it and so there's two stories basically with it first of all there is this x. thirty seven b. spacecraft that's been circling the earth for the last year or so maybe maybe a little bit more and it's finally going to land in june and we have no idea what it's doing some kind of research for the department of defense but they won't tell us what it's doing and turns out that they have to these telescopes that are way more powerful than the hubble telescope and they've just been hanging on to them and they're just now decided to give it over to nasa yeah so essentially that's why
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we can cut back nasa and why we don't need nothing because the military is doing it all of an hourly wages they have a better telescope there now so they have a space drone. that's where the new frontier is it's that's going to be the next battlefield all those battleship galactica movies might be the next book the man the telescope saying to me sounds like first of all the pentagon is way too casual about this they go by the way we have to telescopes in the back like the pentagon is basically a federally funded ikea warehouse except this point and also you have to put them together so you might end up with like a loose bag of screws and two extra rubber feet and if you put them in there's like extra parts missing but it's. and something else no but they just have to kind of like hang it out really have you know it's more powerful than what we thought was our most powerful telescopes yeah there's sort of the fact that the shuttle's been circling since last year i think that just means that it's united airlines through chicago. that should be down the ground and he said. all right if you
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guys had to pick one to write a new anthem for the united states would it be and i'll tell you who you know who people picked on fox news. i would definitely choose springsteen i think he was the perfect choice because first of all the complaint about the national anthem is it's too hard for people to sing it has a larger octave range and people are usually comfortable with springsteen that's not a problem all his songs sound the same you can sing them if you're a half drunk which sounds like he is all the time anyway so that's good for sporting events and think about the content of the song so it's going to go on and on it's going to be big and bloated is going to be it about a new jersey housewife that has an abusive husband wants to move to california you know probably end in a car crash so what's more american than you thought about that yeah you know i rode out there and you know well i'm glad that you're part of the springsteen crowd because i don't think i could sing a single springsteen song does that make me not i mean the you know i mean it's
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going to be in songs for you know nancy i mean i don't know a single one i mean i didn't know what. to do to be great or not a lot of like blue collar you know like working class all-american but i think you kind of bring up a good point terms of how difficult the national anthem is to saying but then at the same time that's why we then appreciate people if they go on and seeing the national anthem before a big sporting events before you know like the super bowl or whatever and for them the problem seems to be more remembering the word the whites that are the problem the orders that were mentioned in the poll jay z. is the one that i'd be most interested to hear how that one turns out you know in a market for one. it's totally very true very true i think stevie wonder you know was up there as well and i had a few i could see that being kind of fun but don i got to be without you parton she was up there with springsteen you know i would like a dolly parton national anthem let's make it a duet yeah i like it ok just my take are you i got to wrap it up but thank you for
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joining me this evening that is it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and make sure they come back tomorrow and firedoglake is going to be on the show with details on bradley manning's latest pretrial hearing in the meantime don't forget to like the loner show on facebook don't forget to follow us on twitter subscribe to our you tube channel and also don't forget that now you can check us out on hulu as well coming up next is the news. hold it. hold it. liz.
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goodspeed. if you. wish. to sleep. just sit. in. front of me a little. with the end of the boer war and the going away of the soviet union many people thought that nuclear weapons disappeared. the risk is not zero that something might be going off by mistake especially if the weapons on hair trigger alert. us of a difference to use it as a threat. but you know if you keep spending
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a trillion dollars a year on weapons if you're going to blow everybody up you can you know people are dying from these weapons but until we actually see it people don't make up nuclear weapons or a bill. that represents all the firepower of the second world war this. is the equivalent. of the world's nuclear arsenal today. sigrid laboratory to mccurry was able to build a new most sophisticated robot which all unfortunately doesn't give a darn about anything turns mission to teach music creation why it should care about humans in britain this is why you should care only on the.
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euro zone champion germany indoors ratings downgrade with fears the crisis in hitting the monetary union's biggest economy. military maneuvering russia plans closer ties with china quality america promises to move most of its warships to be a sympathetic in the coming years. and protest peacefully or pay a fortune russell ball makers pass a bill that sparks some of the most. even debate. new argument. from our studios in central moscow you're watching archie with me and you so now it's good to have you with us eleven pm here in the russian capital but we begin in europe where the zone's debt crisis is getting dangerously close to the monetary
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union's powerhouse germany moody's has cut the ratings of several german banks including the country's second biggest lender austria is also affected here's our europe correspondent tess are cilia granted there's a lot of skepticism surrounding the moves or the motivations of ratings agencies what has just happened does confirm already existing skepticism on the health of the whole banking economy the whole economy at large of the euro zone and nations the fragility and the vulnerability of certain countries even economic powerhouses such as germany to what happens in the so-called periphery countries the losses countries like spain or portugal greece would be taking in now this a downgrade happens on the back of some negative news coming from spain also the leaders of the g seven countries meeting together to find a solution to spain's increasingly dire situation spain had said that it's a bad.

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