tv [untitled] June 9, 2012 8:00am-8:30am EDT
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violence rages on in syria with blasts and gunfire in the capital as un observers step up their investigation into the latest massacre and hama. demonstrators are breaking the law now facing fines in russia as analysts claim the protest movement support and numbers are dwindling also. i never expected that my reports from a store near would be regarded as a threat to national security are eastern europe correspondent and best to gates why a stone blacklisted him along with russian t.v. channels and even the country's foreign minister.
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very warm welcome to you you're with our team with me karen taraji this saturday while u.n. observers in syria continue their investigation into an alleged at massacre in the hama province monitors have visited the side of the killings but are unable to determine how many died or who was behind the slaughter reports of violence continue to come from across the country with several bomb blasts and gun battles erupting in the capital damascus archies more if a notion and now reports. damascus last night has been hit by war some have been described as the heaviest fighting between the rebels the opposition the armed opposition and the governmental forces we've been deed been hearing sounds of explosions and how we shall ngs and separate shootings for several hours nonstop and as it's become normal for the syrian conflict we've been hearing conflicting reports on exactly what happened and why this occurred london based syrian
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observatory for human rights have been saying that the rebels before it all started organized a really huge anti government rally and then attacked one of the checkpoints of the syrian army here in the capital damascus and this is how the clashes started while official sources and this is something we're hearing from local media here in damascus are saying that that has been a terror attack organized by the rabble so again it's very hard to establish the truth but one thing is absolutely clear damascus. fifteen months of the conflict here in syria has most of the time remained under the governmental forces control but what we have seen now is that the rebels are trying to indeed bring the fight straight to. door to achieve their goal which is obviously. regime change in three days over these things the news of the second massacre. of
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the massacre the second message in the last two weeks emerged but so far there is no clear understanding what happened or who was behind the killing in the village in the central province of hama and actually how many people died in hopes that the more interest will be able to shed light on the incident on friday finally managed to make to the scene of the massacre but what we're hearing from them. is that the site has been cleared and they've only discovered some. traces and evidences of clashes and recent fighting such as currington destroyed houses last massacre in the village of houla was used by the free syrian army they are there the biggest and the most well armed opposition group here in the region as a pretext to withdraw from the international approved cease fire and to resume military operations against the governmental forces. a prominent british journalist
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who has just returned from syria claims that rumbles set him up to be killed by pro assad forces alex thomson from channel four news has described to r.t. what he calls a stunt pulled by opposition fighters to deal a propaganda blow to the syrian government. we had now to up for foreign minister sergey lavrov who has a lot of comments while russia as you know has recently proposed a large scale conference on syria insisting that it could replace all other formats was a settlement a complex theory listen now foreign minister sergei lavrov his comments on the moscow energy soon. your reaction on the part of some for employers with group workers and for you of the openly supported are and do groups of the opposition at the same time they demand that the international community take
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decisive steps to change the regimes in the syrian arab republic for the first time since the beginning of this crisis that we see. the question raised about the foreign intervention as a result we see people still dying. to a high degree this happens because for employers you can immediately both inside the opposition. to take a strong stand and continue armed conflict because it's that which gives them hope to repeat the libyan scenario this is a very dentures game and our position remains unchanged we will never agree to use sanction the use of force in the u.n. security council this would lead to severe consequences for the entire middle east region we've had enough of that after the war in iraq look at the. end of the so-called democratization of libya we still see
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a rapper questions in mali and other places in this interest deal lection has been rescheduled time and again and it's not clear when it will actually take place and we don't want another problem and lebanon and we actually see this beginning to happen that if you're on the all your other countries in the region will also. have to face ruppert cautions of this catastrophic scenario if foreign forces used to resolve the syrian problem. true about this as the new oh this may lead to because it's cool is the new and creative arc of instability in the mid to reign and i believe many people realize this and they realize the consequences of a conflict between the sunni's in the in the region this is not the kind of future that we want for this region but sure that is sometimes referred to as the greater
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middle east we want the people in these countries we want people in this geopolitical important region to determine their future get on their own go to go and we have said this time and again any government any country that prepares the main responsibility for what is happening on its territory. and the syrian authorities are no exception. you know we have said this time and again and we have said this directly that they were mistakes made by the syrian government who do some pretty during the advance that started happening more than a year ago because at the foot still should know look when we hear reports about another massacre it's of late and currently we see this message years happening in syria whole most dailies of them when the situation is seriously east stabilized we hear that many international cities give
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a list of media outlets it's not the place. they want to blame put the blame entirely on the syrian government like i said the main responsibility for everything happening on its territory is on the government because the government is responsible for what is happening to its citizens but still i think a year ago nobody could imagine that we would have this kind of crimes in syria in the studio and we are confident we will move toward that it is not entirely their regime's fault. not just the governments fault it's the us in a situation where we have massacres in houla and could be airing of the she's not unless you and other acts of violence including terrorist attacks in damascus and aleppo yes it is opposed to that have been condemned by the u.n. security council for all of this is a result of confrontation that was that is being supported and promoted by outside
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forces what i'm referring primarily to moral support for the armed opposition funding that are supplying it with weapons and helping with the traffic of a militant from other countries it's for example the foreign media. and that still heavily rely on the information coming from their very very biased regional t.v. channels and it's just that they often talk about you know the most the what the armed opposition does as a heroic. freedom fighters going to be i would like to give you a number of facts that. speak to the contrary and of the beloved. over the yesterday he used an r.p.g. then you've got to attack these building where russian experts leave into chara degree need the second floor in the building was damaged fortunately nobody. was
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injured but this is not the first case when lost our buildings are fired up on in syria there was a similar situation with the last fall's three guns yes when steroid trounce gas building in homs was attacked in the most beloved and to the teeth in the western part of damascus a bus with russian experts was fired and fun with the forces such a few days ago there were media reports about electric clashes in i'll hear from you are a lot of talk of that was a very slow with an enemy but when the militants off the free syrian army just tried to two over. biggest territory to which those of us in this day destroyed two ambulances but these two groups if you look at this the districts from the very beginning that you all the events in syria would actually thirty four doctors had been killed forty two medical workers were heavily didn't you know some of the but were killed together with their families that you could buy twenty four hospitals have been attacked in this region these three but it could have been ransacked
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bushes about two hundred ambulances were damaged in processions in the newsroom are these people fighting with doctors civilians. these that in the past people in syria were not killed for religious reasons but today secretary and violence has become commonplace tanser from the dozens of christians that have suffered and many of them have now to leave the country where they ancestors have been living for centuries and churches are attacked with r.p. g.'s and other small arms including the famous minister in sydney i wonder where they have been i can. supposedly voice produced by an apostle luke if you do that at least the country says they will look like you people from both various confessions have been going there to worship and you're going to go put it under
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with a piece of a session worn out of by mary led virgin mary we know but it's a lot of cases where the opposition forces have been persecuting people who are known to sympathize with the syrian government only those who would use explosive devices to attack their houses kill their relatives. but you kidnapped their religious stores money i won't go into details i want to give you any specific names or specifically says where this happened. but now a few words about the way the militants treat jordan was where you come for example because of those who sympathize with them and day before yesterday a british correspondent with the mill for channel four news alex thomson it was reported he said what happened to him in the syrian city of course hearing them close to the lebanese border he went to see him militants there and later he and his driver who also function is used translator and two other journalists they were
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on their way back from a lot of them will be you can't who accompanied him to push the so-called arm the revolutionaries said goodbye to him and said he should take this road and this rudy giuliani inevitably was supposed to take him on defier from the government forces and the journalist believes that this was a set up where they intended to see him killed and then use it for anti acid propaganda fortunately this did not happen you can look up this story on the web which it is very telling here process the course on the whole is speaking about the media and of course. we all would like to have more freedom of speech but when we see the european union or the arab league. if that is the leadership passing off thora tyrian decisions on blocking of syrian government and private channels from broadcasting. this doesn't square well with freedom of
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speech right away we're email and we're reminded of airstrikes against the t.v. center in serbia in belgrade or in tripoli in libya or the over threats we should all be on the same page regarding the freedom of speech and what how it should be respected by the international community and how important it is to ensure access doing from mission no matter what kind of information it is you know when you're going through the nuremberg trial and the u.n. have then nancy propaganda but now they talk about it in terms of the freedom of speech but in a different situation when we see something like what happened in the great in tripoli and what is now happening with the syrian media they use a totally different standard and we think it is totally unacceptable if you noticed
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as well so like i said. before we move you to school i think all these facts indicate that the responsibility for what is happening is not entirely on this syrian government to a higher degree this is caused by the acts of those who continue to finance illegal armed groups recruiting mercenaries helping them cross the border into syria. and support extremists to achieve their own geopolitical goals. and you can we can tell that some of these schools have to do with them with sectarian influence we're very concerned about the spread of terrorist networks in syria but by the way you look on the sprigs peeking in using the same standard and being fair i would like to remind you of the that in order to justify foreign intervention probably more and more often talk about the refugees from syria so if
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we take a look at the statistics political according to you the un commissionaire on the refugees the number of refugees from seriously is about eighty thousand at the moment. with interest about twenty eight thousand are in lebanon. and twenty one point five thousand in jordan and twenty five thousand in to ricky these are the figures and of course this people need support and we expect that all the refugee camps will have at least for the voting access for the poor. u.n. commissioners staff was at this figure it like and it will probably grow but of course we need to put it in perspective with other figures for example the number of refugees inside see read it quoting through some estimates from france are corroborated by other sources we have about
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a million refugees from iraq living in syria and only. half a million palestinians and i don't think people talk much about that was established or you are putting it to be sure that this is similar to the former yugoslavia does anybody think about refugees from serbia and this is the fornia this is the biggest group of refugees in europe but nobody talks about them but let's go back to syria. liquidity of the saloon we are satisfied that after much much effort we've created the mechanism for making progress towards peaceful resolution this is the end of the plan in the u.n. mission and working in syria still. the settlement plan is not making much progress recently and this is this has been discussed at the u.n.
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security at the u.n. general assembly we see no alternative to this. as a way towards a peaceful resolution to the peaceful resolution i stress not the violent change of regime through confrontation with and many many people getting killed or from the police we cannot love this to happen and we need to do all we can to stop the violence this is our top priority and the annan plan offers such an opportunity. the most important thing is that it should be implemented by everybody including outside players and that's the cording to this plan on april twelfth when the ceasefire was achieved yes it is sometimes broken but that's that's the law of touring initial period the situation was more or less stabilized and thousands of people lay down arms used d.m.s. denounced by the government. and did which is
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a big number of if you can rinse off political prisoners were have been released even though more people who have been arrested of course an agreement was reached into this. between the syrian government and the un about providing access for humanitarian organisations to some provinces in order to implement the plan for humanitarian emergency aid approved by domestic use and serious progress has been achieved in providing access for join the lists and the media. they're now working in syria and finally like i said there is this mechanism observers on the ground the first encouraging signs that we saw after april the twelfth probably. those who think that the worse is the better i'm sure. they didn't like it and they want the international community to be filled with indignation and
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start a full blown intervention in syria and i think this is the biggest reason why the coffee annan plan is not making progress and we don't want this to happen we want to have fareed talks with everybody involved in the syrian crisis group which you know as we want to tell them frankly why the plan is not working why it is not being implemented them will go to a higher degree of these problems he's going to do you usually. to the lack of coordination among the foreign players and we just need to realize why is do we have this lack of ordination because there are problems with the dialogue or this is done intentionally to undermine this process we would like to hope that it is the former that we just don't spend enough time talking to each other frankly when though we have the un security council but outside the un security council we still have other important players the arab league turkey the iran and their neighbors
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the other neighbors of syria like lebanon jordan iraq we need to get together somewhere and the beast on the annan plan based on the un security council resolution that approved discipline and sanction the un observing mission in syria as you noted to promote these important documents we need to have a frank serious discussion and agree that. we all support coffee n. and plan the coffee and plan and have all voted for it in the u.n. security council. on paper let's doubt take serious steps to influence all the syrian parties in gauged in this conflict to force them to stop doing that and come to the negotiating table with them i firmly believe that if we work in this direction to do that on the road if we show solidarity and we work
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collectively i strongly believe that we will achieve positive results and after that we can start a political dialogue of course it should be based on the coffee annan plan places and in the place means that the opposition should come together in. the for this dialogue and then talks should start between the government in older groups of the syrian opposition that assume because it itself has ruled this is basically. what our considerations are so we suggest that we should prepare an international conference on syria it should be a compact a group of participants and the goal i repeat is to promote the coffee annan plan and the u.n. security council resolution we should gather everybody who has influence on the situation in syria on the daily basis and we believe this group should include the
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five permanent members of the u.s. security council. syria's neighbors iraq iran. jordan if you go to ricky it's that easy to get up also representatives of the arab league by the way run it is chairing the arab league at the moment katara he's the chair of the arab league committee on syria. and i think saudi arabia is a major country in the gulf region should also be invited to the negotiating table and also organisations like the un of course of course the un should act as an umbrella as a framework for this event of this and i would also think that the european union should be even a question play a role here because the european union is very much interested in the events in syria and they would like to overcome the current crisis. so as we saw during our recent talks between russia and the e.u.
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in st petersburg just a few days ago. continuance we want this conference. to be in the let's go and open discussion. and in this discussion it will become clear . with god how real it is that you're going to get to achieve an agreement on a consolidated concerted effort to be stuck. with regards to you this syrian government and all the opposition groups if you ask me about deeds it should be done it's in their early days of course we cannot come together without for eliminate discussions with the whole the parties involved. yes a little good stuff course we will have some meetings between experts first we are now actively working with all of our colleagues and we think and this is the last
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thing we'll see before i will be ready to take a few questions we think it is very important the queen for muslims to create an atmosphere in the media that would promote looking for because for ways to rule stop violence at an early date and for starting with political dialogue but if what we hear every day's just encouraging you should hear more of the involvement of our armed interference in the syrian conflict if what we hear daley's accusations without any facts to back it accusations against the regime if our colleagues don't wait for the results of the investigation currently underway by un observers and humanitarian agencies and the human rights council if what we hear of three days critical that it's just up to russia to tell acid.
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and then everything will be alright we'll never get anywhere in this at the youth with you showed us that the responsibility responsibilities responsibilities what we need today as regards to keep pressure on a couple to put them up with one of word you can start a fire that you will never be able to put out and you can never send signals that just make things worse and make the opposition believe that help is on the way and that flesh puzzles they will have what they had in libya now will take a few questions. said russia twenty four channel russia twenty four kindly but that would. because you go to the go it was you it was just it so it was that it is. this is not if you're the statistics are you just admitted that it will be achievement. and
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unsettlement plan refer to april and may but over the last week we have only heard of new surges of violence on a large scale over the last two days to pull a mass from various countries have been discussing that motoring intervention. is possible or they're also talking about a russian opposition and security council can you say that now the kofi annan plan is deliberately now being pushed by various forces to to fail and when you look at my order can you say that there are some other party is apart from russia and syria interested in implementing this plan are they the only part of the blue skull schools when my introduction i said that we do have this kind of impression that there are some influential forces that want to go over the real the
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annan plan and prove schoolgirls that this syrian government is not capable to cooperate in implementing this plan and use it as a justification for an armed interference this is quite obvious in the u.k. in the seat which looks very clearly i think anybody can see what is really happening here and what is behind you these kind of holes in encouragement like i said the un security council will not sanction armed interference with them. who is this and this is not because we are protecting acid or his regime this is because we know because. we know how difficult it is how complex the syrian society is. and we know that those who want military operation at least some of those who want to see
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a military operation would like to change this. delicate situation with different religious groups in syria they want to use series of s.f. plays where will they will fight for. their domination in the arab or released and we will do all we can to prevent such a scenario is allowed to do that but of course when the u.n. security council. when some encourage new security council to introduce sanctions and invoke new chapter seven including the use of military force we cannot forget what happened in libya. because the one resolution that was approved and another resolution was not vetoed with by russia or china and then both.
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