tv [untitled] June 9, 2012 8:02am-8:32am EDT
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the rebels before it all started it organized a really huge anti government rally and then attacked one of the checkpoints of the syrian army here in the capital damascus and this is how the clashes started while official sources and this is something we're hearing from local media here in damascus is saying that that has been a terror attack organized by the rabble so again it's very hard to establish the truth but one thing is absolutely clear damascus. fifteen months of the conflict here in syria has most of the time remained under the governmental forces control but what we have seen now is that the rebels are trying to indeed bring the fight straight to. door to achieve their goal which is obviously. regime change in three days over these things the news of the second massacre. of the massacre the second message in the last two weeks emerged but so far there is
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no clear understanding what happened or who was behind the killing in the village in the central province of hama and actually how many people died in hopes that the more interest will be able to shed light on the incident on friday finally managed to make to the scene of the massacre but what we're hearing from them. is that the site has been cleared and they've only discovered some traces of evidences of clashes and recent fighting such as currington destroyed houses last massacre in the village of pool was used by the free syrian army the biggest and the most well armed opposition group here in the region as a pretext to withdraw from the international approved cease fire and to resume military operations against the governmental forces. a prominent british journalist who's just returned from syria claims that rumbles set him up to be killed by pro
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assad forces alex thomson from channel four news has described to r.t. what he calls a stunt pulled by opposition fighters to deal a propaganda blow to the syrian government. we had now a two up for a foreign minister sergey lavrov who has a lot of comments while russia as you know has recently proposed a large scale conference on syria insisting that it could replace all of their formats was a settlement without a complex theory listen now foreign minister sergei lavrov his comments on the moscow initials only cerned about your reaction on the part of some foreign players with group locals and for your openly supported are and the groups of the opposition at the same time they demand that the international community take decisive steps to change the regimes in the syrian arab republic for the first time
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since the beginning of this crisis we see. the question raised about the foreign intervention as a result we see people still dying or being killed. to a high degree this happens because foreign players. will incite the opposition. to take a strong stand and continue armed conflict which gives them hope to repeat the libyan scenario this is a very dentures game in our opposition remains unchanged we will never agree to use sanction the use of force in the u.n. security council this would lead to severe consequences for the entire middle east region we've had enough of that after the war in iraq it is and is the so-called democratization of libya and we still see repercussions the. sions in mali and other places. the election has been rescheduled time and again and it's not
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clear when it will actually take place and we don't want another problem and lebanon and we actually see this beginning to happen the. other countries in the region will also. have to face repercussions of this catastrophic scenario if foreign forces used to resolve the syrian problem to deal with all this may lead to that and create a arc of instability in the mid to reign i believe many people realize this and they realize the consequences of a conflict between the sunni's in millions shia in the region this is not the kind of future that we want for this region. that is sometimes referred to as the greater middle east we want people in these countries we want people in
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this geopolitical important region to determine their future get on their own goals and we have said this time and again any government any country that bears the main responsibility for what is happening on its territory. and the syrian authorities are no exception. and we have said this time and again and we have said this directly that they were mistakes made by the syrian government who do so. during the dance that started happening more than a year ago but still should know more when we hear reports about another massacre. and currently we see this massacre is happening in syria almost daily when the situation is seriously east stabilized and we hear that many international film theorists media outlets. they want to blame put the blame entirely on the
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syrian government like i said the main responsibility for everything happening on its territory is on the government because the government is responsible for what is happening to its citizens but still i think a year ago nobody could imagine. that we would have this kind of crimes in syria if the deal and we are confident we will move toward that it is not entirely their regimes fault not just the governments fault in a situation where we have massacres in houla and could be airing the bushies and other acts of violence including terrorist attacks in damascus and aleppo using the posts that have been condemned by the u.n. security council for all of this is a result of confrontation that is being supported and promoted by outside forces or i'm referring primarily to moral support for the armed opposition funding that
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us supplying it with weapons and helping with the traffic of a militant from other countries it's for example the foreign media. that still heavily rely on the information coming from very very biased regional t.v. channels and they often talk about what the armed opposition does as a heroic. freedom fighters. i would like to give you a number of facts that. speak to the contrary and of the bill of. over the yesterday he used an r.p.g. then you've got to attack the building where russian experts leave into chara degree need the second floor in the building was damaged fortunately nobody. was injured but this is not the first case when you are buildings are fired up on in
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syria there was a similar situation with the last fall when steroid trounce gas building in homs was attacked to the most beloved and to the teeth in the western part of damascus a bus with russian experts was fired and fun with horses a few days ago there were media rear. it's about electric clashes in our head from here a lot of talk about the media that was there. to me when the militant self the free syrian army just tried to overtake this territory in the us unless they destroyed two ambulances that these two groups if you look at the statistics from the very beginning that you all the events in syria were to shift the duty for doctors had been killed forty two medical workers some were had to leave this one didn't you know some of the by working and killed together with their families that you could get by twenty four hospitals have vanished tacked on the street in these three when rand settled people about two hundred ambulances were damaged in processions.
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are these people who are fighting with doctors civilians. in the past people in syria were not killed for religious reasons but today secretary and violence has become commonplace you could. chance of dozens of christians that have suffered and many of them have now to leave the country where they ancestors have been living for centuries and churches are attacked with r.p. g.'s other small arms including the famous minister in sydney where they have been i can. supposedly voice produced by an apostle luke if you're good at least a little book like people from both various confessions had been going there to worship in. a piece of a session worn by mary virgin mary we know because
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a lot of cases where the opposition forces have been persecuting people who are known to sympathize with the syrian government. quickly would use explosive devices to attack their houses kill their relatives on the beach kidnap their religious stores money i won't go into details i want to give you any specific names or specific leases go where this happened. but now if you words above the way the militants treat to jordan was where you go for example because of those who sympathize with them every day before yesterday british correspondent symbol for channel four news alex thomson it was reported he said what happened to him in the syrian city of course hearing them close to the lebanese border he went to see him militants there and later he and he's the driver who also function is he's translator and two other journalists they were on their way back
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a lot of them and militants who accompanied him progress with the so-called armed the revolutionaries said goodbye to human said he should take this road and this road inevitably was supposed to take him on defier from the government forces and the journalist believes that this was a set out where they intended to see him killed and then use it for anti-acid propaganda fortunately this did not happen you can look up this story on the web. it is very telling here for us if the course on the whole is speaking about the media and of course. we all would like to have more freedom of speech but when we see the european union or the arab league of the leadership passing off thora tyrian decisions on blocking it. just syrian government and private channels from broadcasting. this doesn't square well with
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freedom of speech right away we're remit and we're reminded of airstrikes against the t.v. center in serbia in belgrade or in tripoli in libya over threats we should all be on the same page regarding the freedom of speech and how we should be respected by the international community and how important it is to ensure access to information no matter what kind of information it is. one that the nuremberg trials and the u.n. have then nancy propaganda but now they talk about it in terms of the freedom of speech but in a different situation when we see something like what happened in the great in tripoli and what is now happening with the syrian media they use a totally different standard and we think it is totally unacceptable. so like i said before we move you think all these facts indicate that the responsibility for
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what is happening is not entirely on this syrian government to a high degree this is caused by the acts of those who continue financed illegal armed groups recruiting mercenaries helping them cross the border into syria. and support extremists to achieve their own geopolitical goals. and you can we can tell that some of these schools have to do with. sick tyrian influence we're very concerned about the spread of terrorist networks in syria but by the way you look on the rigs peaking using the same standard and being fair i would like to remind you of the that in order to justify foreign intervention. they more and more often talk about the refugees from syria so if we take a look at the statistics put
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a little according to the u.n. commission there on the refugees the number of refugees from syria which is about eighty thousand at the moment. about twenty eight thousand are in lebanon. and twenty one point five thousand in jordan and twenty five thousand in two riki these are the figures and of course this people need support we expect that all the refugee camps will have. access or. un commissioners and staff to it at this figure it look and it will probably grow but of course we need to put it in perspective with other figures for example the number of refugees inside see read it quoting through some estimates for we are corroborated by other resources we have about a million refugees from iraq living in syria and when we.
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reach half a million palestinians and i don't think people talk much about that was established or you are looking at. this is similar to the former yugoslavia does anybody think about refugees from serbia and this lavonia this is the biggest group of refugees in europe but nobody talks about them but let's go back to syria. we are satisfied that after much much effort we've created the mechanism for making progress towards peaceful resolution this is the annan plan and the u.n. mission is working in syria still. the settlement plan is not making much progress recently and this is this has been discussed at the u.n. security at the u.n.
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general assembly we see no alternative to this plan as a way towards a peaceful resolution to peaceful resolution i stress not the violent change of regime through confrontation with and many many people getting killed from the police we cannot allow this to happen and we need to do all we can to stop violence this is our top priority and the annan plan offers such an opportunity. for the most important thing is that it should be implemented by everybody including outside players cording to this plan on april twelfth ceasefire was achieved yes it is sometimes a broken but during the initial period the situation was more or less stabilized and thousands of people lay down arms used d.m.s. denounced by the government. and the big number of if you can reach of political prisoners were have been released even though more people who have been
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arrested of course an agreement was reached. between the syrian government and the un about providing access for humanitarian organisations to some provinces you know order to implement the plan for humanitarian emergency aid approved by domesticus and serious progress has been achieved in providing access for jordan alyson the media. they're now working in syria and finally like i said there is this mechanism obama's service on the ground the first encouraging signs that we saw after april the twelfth probably. those who think that the worst cyst. better if. they didn't like it and they want the international community to be filled with indignation and start a full blown intervention in syria and i think this is the biggest reason why the
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coffee annan plan is not making progress and we don't want this to happen we want to have fareed talks with everybody involved in the syrian crisis and we want to tell them frankly why the plan is not working why it is not being implemented them will go to a higher degree of these problems are due. to the lack of coordination among foreign players and we just need to realize why is do we have this lack of ordination because there are problems with the dialogue or this is done in tensional e to undermine this process we would like to hope that it is the former that we just don't spend enough time talking to each other frankly even though we have the un security council but outside the u.n. security council we still have other important players the arab league turkey. iran and their neighbors the other neighbors of syria like lebanon jordan iraq. we need
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to get together somewhere and the beast on the annan plan is based on the un security council resolutions that approve discipline and sanction the un observing mission in syria you know order to promote these important documents we need to have a frank serious discussion and agree that if we all support coffee n. and plan the coffin and plan and have all voted for it in the un security council. on paper let's now take serious steps to influence all the syrian parties in gauged in this conflict to force them to stop doing that and come to the negotiating table with them like firmly believe that if we work in this direction to do that on the road if we show solidarity and we work collectively i strongly
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believe that we will achieve positive results and after that we can start a political dialogue of course it should be based on the coffee annan plan. and this means that the opposition should come together in really for this dialogue and then talks should start between the government in older groups of the syrian opposition. that's because if this is basically. what our considerations are so we suggest that we should prepare an international conference on syria it should be a compact croupe of participants and the goal i repeat is used to promote the coffee annan plan and the un security council resolution we should gather everybody who has influence. on the situation in syria on the daily basis and we believe this group should include the five permanent members of the u.s.
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security council. syria's neighbors iraq iran jordan. its. also representatives of the arab league by the way you run it is chairing the arab league at the moment katara he's the chair of the arab league committee on syria. and i think saudi arabia is a major country in the gulf region should also be invited to the negotiating table and also organizations like the u.n. of course of course the u.n. should act is in umbrella as a framework for this event and i would also think that the european union should play a role here because the european union is very much interested in the events in syria and they would like to overcome the current crisis. as we saw during our recent talks between russia and the e.u. in st petersburg just
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a few days ago. convenience we want this conference to be in the let's go and open discussion. and in this discussion it will become clear . with our real it is that you're going to get to achieve an agreement on a consolidated concerted effort but it's look. with regards to you the syrian government and all the opposition groups if you ask me about deeds it should be done it's in their early days of course we cannot come together without for eliminating discussions with old parties involved. a little of course we will have some meetings between experts first we are now actively working with all of our colleagues and we think and this is the last thing we'll see before
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i will be ready to take a few questions we think it is very important. to create an atmosphere in the media that would promotion looking. for ways to root stop violence such an early date. for starting with political dialogue but if what we hear every day's just encouraging. more and the involvement of armed interference in the syrian conflict if what we hear daily is accusations without any threats to back it accusations against the regime if our colleagues don't wait for the results of the investigation currently underway by the un observers and humanitarian agencies and the human rights council if what we hear it three days that it's just up to russia to tell acid. and then everything will be alright we'll never
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get anywhere this is the. responsibility responsibility responsibility is what we need today those are the keepers of a couple of them with one of word you can start a fire that you will never be able to put out and you can never send signals that just make things worse and make the opposition deliver that we could help is on the way end. but will they will have what they had in libya now will take a few questions. said russia twenty four channel russia twenty four kindly but. it. was just. that is so you just admitted that what they achievements. and settlement plan refer to
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april and may but over the last week we have only heard of new surges of violence on a large scale over the last two days to pull a mass from various countries have been discussing that a military intervention. is possible or they're also talking about a russian opposition and security council can you say that now that kofi annan plan is deliberately now being pushed by various forces to to fail and when you look can you say that there are some other parties apart from russia and syria interested in implementing this plan are they the only part is. in my introduction i said that we do have this kind of impression that there are some influential forces that want to deal real the annan plan and prove. that
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the syrian government is not capable to cooperate in implementing this plan and use it as a justification for an armed interference this is quite obvious in you can see. very clearly i think anybody can see what is really happening here in. and what is behind these kind of coals and encouragement like i said the u.n. security council will not sanction armed interference from within and this is not because we are protecting acid or his regime this is because we know. we know how difficult it is how complex the syrian society is. and we know that those who want military operation at least some of those who want to see a military operation would like to change this. delicate situation with
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woods different religious groups in syria they want to use siri. as that blaze where will they will fight for. their domination in the arab world and we will do all we can to prevent such a scenario. and of course when the u.n. security council. when some encourage new security council to introduce sanctions and invoke a new chapter. seven including the use of military force we cannot forget what happened in libya is that it's one or is aleutian was approved and another resolution was not vetoed by russia or china and then both resolutions for the violated by need to later when they acted upon this
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resolution. and the. nobody observed. the resolution about arms embargo number of european countries and in the arab league probably reported that the sort provided arms for the enemies of the khadafi regime why then we would introduce this arms embargo. and once again i stress we are not protecting the regime we are protecting chances to achieve stability in the region of the chances to use if preserve stability in the arab world and we also to protect international law because the way that the syrian crisis will be a result will play an important role in the. world tomorrow whether the world will be based on the un charter or the world will be considered a place where might makes right people say contrary.
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mr lavrov you mentioned when i was cited for you you could get a whole rushes. that i see cooking with because i just got it was a typical of which there was. a console and when you come on that when you question if that of russia and america yes i mean it's got a social pressure and american citizens second question have russia and the us discussed a yemen scenario according to which i said well resign and leave syria thank you if you can respond in english i'll be very grateful. you know we have enough for information that you know if evidence about arms being supplied to the syrian opposition. so that arms and.
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