resolutions were violated by need to late circumstances when they acted upon this resolution but was that you and the like nobody observed the resolution about arms embargo number of european countries and in the arab league probably reported that these were provided arms for the enemies of the khadafi regime why then we would introduce this arms embargo. and once again i stress we are not protecting the regime we are protecting chances to achieve stability in the regional chances to preserve stability in the arab world and we also protect international law because the way that the syrian crisis will be a result will play an important role in this new world tomorrow whether the world will be based on the un charter or the world will be considered

a place where might makes right people say conkwright. stevenson b.b.c. mr lavrov you mentioned how science. has. yes video that i see it again with the guys i just got to visit it at the lodge that was in there for to see this guy but it's a concern when it come on when your second question if that of russia and america i see here i mean it is a social pressure and the americans it is the second question have russia and the us discussed a yemen scenario according to which i said well resign and leave syria thank you if it can respond in english i'll be very grateful and then the stock exchange you know we have enough for some of your information the pleasant enough evidence about arms being supplied to the syrian opposition. so that's the alarms and other.

kinds of military cargoes they also receive information intelligence we know who are the leaders of this army who are considering becoming we know who our group villagers and field commanders are theories groups included in this army some of them have subordination a some of them are lists coordinated more independent you know we know where the headquarters of the free syrian army is we know which country is going to support it with money it's that on the google becomes an actual this is open information. or saudi colleagues. kateri colleagues i think yesterday there was a forum for business men when they established their foundation for supporting the free syrian army the information is available and i think. the special services

have more than have plenty of informations and data including the british services because they have a long standing reputation in the security community in other european countries nato. they have enough intelligence and in private conversations but even without their presence our colleagues tell us they have plenty of information about what is happening as for the yemeni scenario which this is like looking which i don't want to simplify things that. actually the situation in yemen is far from being called it's not that simple even though this plan is rule one of the four overcoming the crisis has been implemented but the plan was exactly what we are talking about all the parties involved in the yemeni conflict came to the negotiating table without any preliminary conditions they said in reached an

agreement there was no condition about the president leaving the country isn't that the from the very start it was an agreement that has been reached later if the syrian parties can agree on that we would be happy to support this kind of resolution as well as many other countries but you shouldn't impose any conditions on the talks we think it is unacceptable it is a principled stand this will not take us to a stable solution to the problem to go it's up to the syrian student term and their future and reach an agreement between them of course through democratic methods by popular vote. contingency got that a look at the conference that we're suggesting that we want to steal to this is that we want to use it to create conditions for that that yes outside police should

not interfere with that apparently they're interfering with their insights inciting one side so you can. too but it's in the early so-called liberation war. that always so until the international community interferes and starts military intervention i'm just quoting from the holly galloon oakley acting head of the syrian national council this is exactly what he said the continuing liberation deliberation war until the us military intervention comes we believe that the foreign players and our conference supposes that players and again this is not necessarily just one round we can have several rounds in this conference this conference should remove negative influence from foreign players in this conflict that we have to do and it should reveal react

with the oil and energy of all players to stop blood shit. and start a band syrian dialogue with us that these are the conditions that we should create and then it is up to the syrians to reach an agreement well that's what led to say in response to your question for russia to take kindly. yesterday in gold. still some of the models are drinking the form of russia today here schools and the like specter due to have green mike is up next least that in the western media and among experts there's spain circulating and some way they issue of arms supplied to syria from russia. the wrists a british let's say publications. this is a really wide lead discussed and according to these articles it is russia

russian arms that are killing syrian civilians could you please a command on how we can minimize this talks talks on this issue or to refute those lights out for you to try i'll do my best first of all we do not supply the syrian government with the kind of all arms that can be used against civil protest years ago showing up on the computer of the totally weird working on to the contracts that we have signed long time ago and money has been paid and these are exposed to air defense systems they only can be used if serious attempt by other countries we don't supply syria with any other kind of orms we needed this special decisions when a bit of unrest started in syria that we will not supply syria would small ormus or

anything else that can be used in. against protesters. look that is the only thing since that's my first point by the ways our american colleagues in some other countries in the region are supplying arms that can be used against protesters just recently they side in other countries. the only thing . to continue would have been seeing earlier and i referred to libya yes we had be arms embargo dearing and nobody sold anything to the government but the opposition had plenty of weapons and special forces from european countries worked together with the rebels in libya so this is just another example you have to be honest. our syrian colleague plays.

with. the t.m.s. to love you have already said that terrorist groups have thing especially active recently. and saying guards that. that no attacks against russian servants in syria have killed any people but. nevertheless some outside players have being claiming. that they would like to promote and in turn just a stray that promotes the annan plan and now they're saying is that recently we have heard a lot of speculation and even rumors that. the russian stance may change over time some people regard your recent initiatives and international of of the international conference. as a. beginning as

a sig sign that russian position may change. just need so many syrian citizens in and many people in the arab and the muslim world would like to see if there is a need ground for these kinds of rumors. with the beat the flu we could well like i said in my opening remarks there is no ground whatsoever for russia to change its stance if you think that our initiative on organizing this conference is a sign that we are going to change our stance you misunderstood is our position is not just a veto anything our position is constructive and positive we are looking for ways to make progress that's why list august we suggested but certain states because as

a statement will go to the bill of for the un security council and was actually adopted we were the first for the council to get involved in the syrian situation this was less september then a little later again and we suggested draft resolution. based on the need to influence older parties involved but western countries did not support those resolutions and then we supported the decision that was made on the ember second believe by the arab league to send in i'm serving missions to syria we talked to the syrian government and we convinced them to accept that mission it was not easy it was not that simple the syrian authorities of course they made a lot of mistakes and many things. that you obviously could have changed the situation to the better but i mean with that it was done very late but yes we

convinced the syrian authorities to receive this mission of very observers and we also did our best to increase the number of those observers we want them we wanted them to report to the u.n. security council for some reason the arab countries did not want their report that observers prepared to go to the u.n. security council i don't know why i can only speculate but i don't want to do that . because this hasn't been one hundred percent going from who we want to that report to go to the u.n. security council and immediately after that happened the flew the arab league stopped that mission i can recall did from syria i think the report was really pretty objective pretty unbiased. it reported out some unexceptable things done by the syrian government and it also pointed out that this is not just happening in

viki that there are well armed people fighting the syrian government and the government forces probably that was the reason why the mission was recalled maybe somebody didn't like the way it worked and we see the same thing happening now we supported wholeheartedly the point of coffee n n as the special envoy we invited him to moscow immediately after that we supported the ideas he presented and that later. became the six point plan and today we're doing the same the reason we call this conference is not because russia is going to change its stance no it is because we want to implement the annan plan that was supported universally by the u.n. security council but like i said we know what happened with the resolution that introduced the arms embargo in libby and this resolution was violated the window all countries voted for it in the unit security council so we want to make sure that those who

supported the annan plan we want to make sure that they were genuine and then they voted for it so this will be a litmus test and we will see how genuine they are in their support of the annan plan a country just starts with good you by the way it's likely you we're seeing openly that this conference. starts if you do still should be the only you form it if everybody agrees to that the only form it for promoting the decision made in the u.n. security council approving the annan plan. this is not just the. group it was in a group of friends of syria and then the actual therefore they're not friends of syria they are friends of the syrian national council and other in the opposition groups but it including some of them who are not parading inside syria there they do not agree with that we are saying that it's on the syrians the syrian opposition

us was ition groups should unite based on the platform of being greedy for talks this is what this a curate council asks for why then the security council doesn't report musketeer to the fact that mr galina who visited moscow and we had talks with him asks for a military intervention and refuses to talk with the government as the un security council has recommended so if you think that group this conference will be used as an umbrella for the friends of syria. i would tell you this is totally not true that if everybody wants to support the end plans they should all come together to one police you can use different names you can call it a conference or a concept group a conference may decide to set up account to group the important thing is that everybody should come together around one idea that unites everybody and the

friends of syria cannot unite everybody in this nation our position remains unchanged. and just recently russian president vladimir putin went to china and he reaffirmed that who our position remains unchanged there was also the f c o's summit indeed and on behalf of all the members of that organization we reaffirmed our stance your means unchanged but it's not our in clarity so this conference is just developing our position taking it further but its essence remains unchanged what. can your plays make they. will begin asking questions one. bit of hello mr lavrov i have only two questions the first test to do with a yesterday's negotiations with mr hoffa have you reached the criminal to it today

not to states to hold a conference like that in spite of the differences on iran's participation for the second question is that there is some information on syria asking russia china and other. countries to hold an investigation on the whole a massacre. do you support a suggestion to hold an international investigation in hama and houla under the aegis of the united nations thank you. first in my consultations with fred hough it was actually not myself two of my dippy days were engaged in those talks me bug done the thing you know to get to a level of that is ringing and there was no clues there was not a definite no no right here's regarding the conference so we just agreed to continue discussions on the subject yesterday i talked to coffee and about that

we. still you know we want this conference. if you could see it to be acceptable for it to be effective we need to have all the parties who influence various sides involved in the syrian conflict so represented there and iran is one of such countries iran has influence cityscape are used on the syrian government. will it explode get out of them so saying that iran should not be there because iran is a dead cantor in spite of the problem not part of the solution well i would say that it's inappropriate for serious diplomacy to say that americans are very pragmatic people. when they need something they don't pay any attention to ideological issues for example with iran when americans

needed to reduce threats for their soldiers in iraq they had meetings with iranians with no problems made agreements with them it was fine and we understand that this is a normal approach and it's been pretty magic in paul in foreign policy is it is necessary to do that but since they were able to talk to iran to ensure security for their soldiers in iraq why can't they do this scene in order to use to provide security for syrian people confused please appears this year it is important and the reason why all the parties come to this conference and because they want to send a clear signal to all the parties involved in the syrian conflict to stop violence we're talking about saving people's lives here in the list and so i hope there will not be a double standard here now as regards your question about investigations did syria suggested that russia and china send their experts. we think that we already have

the decision. if you have this investigation done by u.n. experts in syria but the very fact that they appeal to us we're going to we're you guarded as an indication that the syrian leadership is already here to allow international experts come in and see everything for themselves and we can only welcome this kind of openness essentially but the. minute he's got political we are we and the chinese are not going to replace the u.n. they're already taking care of this investigation. although we have received reports that some are plenty to interfere with the u.n. activities an investigation what happened in houla based on the ethnic composition of that place this is. what i have been talking about earlier in

the sunni shia conflict l.-a whites and sunni's living quite close. to each other. so when the crisis deteriorates when you see more and more of the violence in extremism and terrorism at this but it's a very sick tarion the tensions that used to be on little lateral with the disclosure of i mean they become manifest that's listening to degree because of instigation from a broad brush you saw the u.n. will take care of in the investigation and i hope that those who have influence on the militants will also tell them not to interfere with this investigation with like we do with the syrian government we do the same.

that's because it had so many. newspapers. mr lavrov over the last taste we have heard of some i have to use to. work out in more detail the annan plan and about the deadlines. what would you say about this idea. in terms of developing the annan plan further i would say we can only make it more details i don't think it's no longer relevant no every part of this plan is still relevant but when the borders deal them for each point especially those points that have to do with stopping violence and starting political dialogue we need to make it more concrete more detailed and this is what the conference we're talking about is supposed to do supposed to help with we need the mechanism to very fired that

all parties have stopped the military. activities that we need a mechanism for. your to literally put it in opening a political dialogue that's working for you and this is what we are going to discuss at the conference and for a timeline for this plan. because once again this is just an attempt to use ultimatums and then when time expires they'll say we will not extend the mandate for un observers and then it will have this critical situation. when the international community will. force the u.n. security council to sanction military intervention this is very obvious we can see through it very easily with a little from the open air referred earlier to d.

or what happened to arab observers just a month later they were called what can you do in the month but still they achieved something the previous night and gradually they should have made the further progress build on that and could the syrian government was open to receive an unlimited number of arab service their number was greater than the number of units there was we have to d.d. had almost a thousand and the head of the arab league not made this decision to recall them for some obscure reason we would have had a list of that and then the very good network of international presence in syria arab monitors could have been used by you of but it could have been complimented that would have observers from other regions and this was a mistake and we need to realize that that is serious of this mistakes mistaken

decisions made as soon as we have a ray of hope for peaceful resolution this makes us think that some of our partners international parking us from the very start they wanted to follow this principle off the worry is the better they just wanted to have an excuse for a military intervention as soon as possible so we need to make sure right now that . the annan plan to me is that you will not. feel the same way and we don't need artificial an artificial timeline do you have a timeline for the palestinian issue no because everybody realizes the severely complex issue why should syria be any different for the women in the book called. little girls less of us have russia. yesterday cover our men and tara clinton discussed the situation in syria as well and apart from the international

efforts to promote the annan plan they also spoke of a strategy to transfer political power doesn't mean that for the west shelf transfer of power is already solved security well again this is. one of the biggest contradictions and essentially i think this is what the american said after their meeting with kofi annan but kofi annan himself said that in this week women should be achieved by the syrians themselves at least this was my impression when i talked to him on the phone yesterday we believe that outside players should not impose anything should not impose any models that on the on the . syrians parties in the conflict we should just create conditions for them to reach an agreement we should force them literally to come to the negotiating table of course first we need to stop. combat operations and like i said the

reason we want to have this conference is not to. predetermine the outcome of the political resolution we just need to create conditions for the syrians to get to work out the solution themselves we need to just really encourage them to continue talks and this is what we do in the. palestinian israeli conflict in other conflicts around the globe where the international community always follows this universally accepted principle that it is up to the parties to reach an agreement the now gordon could have bought conflict is the same he is in the same category will go to the ows group just encourages both parties to look for a solution and that we should use the same principle in other cases including syria . and i

believe so that our obeah would like to take a floor stick if that is what it was that plunked down i'm still like to come back to the un and the most with and the situation around the plan so the end plan for a few weeks has already been underway here to to be implemented and there being a lot of negotiations and meetings and so far no results so to speak that this international conference that you are putting forward may really promoted the advent plan or your trying to get this part is together because the plan is at impasse and you have to work out a new approach does with those well realize you have to pull your editorial policy

and there's no you there's nothing you can do you know i don't think the situation is so hopeless with the annan plan. i repeat this again not the first time to d. the reason we suggested this conference east to help implement the annan plan by. going to concerted effort from international players to influence the parties involved in the syrian conflict to help them come to the negotiating table and reach an agreement. i would not cede at the end and plan is not being implemented in any of its points like some of our foreign colleagues tend to say they just use it as. something that they can influence people with it's a very short phrase the annan plan is not being implemented in any of the points they just repeated time and again and eventually people start to deliberate.