other. kinds of military cargoes they also receive information intelligence we know who are the leaders of this army who are these becoming we know who are the looters and the field commanders of firies screwups included in this army some of them have subordination a some of them are lists coordinated more independent we know where the headquarters of the free syrian army is from what we know which countries support it with money. and actual this is open information. or saudi colleagues. or qatari colleagues i think yesterday there was a forum for business mina when they established their foundation for supporting the free syrian army the information is available and i think that the special services

have more than have plenty of informations and data including the british services . they have a long standing reputation in the security community in other european countries in nato. they have enough intelligence and in private conversations but even without their presence our colleagues tell us they have plenty of information it was about what is happening as for the yemeni scenario which i don't want to simplify things. given actually the situation in yemen is far from being called it's not that simple even though this plan is. for overcoming the crisis has been implemented but the plan was exactly what we're talking about all the parties involved in the yemeni conflict came to the negotiating table without any preliminary conditions they said in reached an agreement there was no condition

about the president leaving the country at the from the very start it was an agreement that has been reached later if the syrian parties can agree on that we would be happy to support this kind of resolution as well as many other countries but you shouldn't impose any conditions on the talks we think it is unacceptable it is our principled stand this will not take us to a stable solution to the problem. it's up to the syrians to determine their future and reach an agreement between them of course through democratic methods. by popular vote. because the conference that we're suggesting in this. we want to use it to create conditions for that. yes outside police should not interfere with that apparently they're interfering with their insights into

inciting one side so you can teen year. so-called liberation war. you know we still until the international community interferes and starts military intervention i'm just quoting from the harley girl uniforms oakley acting head of the syrian national council this is exactly what he said continuing liberation the liberation war until the military intervention comes we believe that because foreign players and our conference supposes that foreign players and again this is not necessarily just one round we can have several rounds in this conference this conference should remove the negative influence from foreign players in this conflict that we have today and it should return react with the oil and energy of all players to stop blood

shit. and start a pan syrian dialogue these are the conditions that we should create and then it is up to the syrians to reach an agreement. well that's what led to say in response to your question for russia to take kindly. to. the move from russia today. i expected you to have green mike. but in the western media and among experts there's spain circulating and some way they issue of arms supplied to syria from russia. arrests a british let's say publications. this is a really wide lead discussed and according to these articles it is russia

russian armistead are killing syrian civilians could you please a command to on how we can minimize this talks talks on this issue or to refute those lights. out or try i'll do my best first of all we do not supply the syrian government with the kind of all arms that can be used against civil protesters. but we're working on to the contracts that we have signed a long time ago and money has been paid and these are. air defense systems but they only can be used if serious attempt by other countries we don't supply syria with any other kind of orms we needed this special decisions when. unrest started in syria that we will not supply syria would small ormus or anything else that can be used. in

against protesters. that's my first point by the ways our american colleagues and some other countries in the region are supplying arms that can be used against protesters just recently they signed another country . and to continue would have been seeing earlier and i referred to libya yes we had the arms embargo dearing and nobody sold anything to the government but the opposition had plenty of weapons in special forces from european countries worked together with the rebels in libya so this is just another example you have to be honest where syrian colleague plays. t.m.'s to

a lover of you have already said that terrorist groups there have been especially active recently. and thanks god that. that no attacks against russian servants in syria have killed any people but. nevertheless some outside players have been claiming. that they would like to promote there and in turn justice river promotes the annan plan and now they're saying is that recently we have had a lot of speculations and even rumors that. the russian stance may change over time some people regard your recent initiatives and international of of the international conference. as air beginning as

a sig sign that russian position may change. so many syrian citizens. and many people in the arab and the muslim world would like to see if there is a need ground for these kinds of rumors. well like i said in my opening remarks there is no ground whatsoever for russia to change its stance if you think that our initiative on organizing this conference is a sign that we are going to change our stance you've misunderstood this our position is not just to veto anything our position is constructive and positive we are looking for ways to make progress that's why list august we suggested. a statement. of for the un security council and was actually adopted that we were

the first for the council to get involved in the syrian situation this was less september than. a little later again we suggested to draft the resolutions in the uk are you must you are based on the need to influence all the parties involved but western countries did not support those resolutions and then we supported the decision that was made on the embers second i believe by the arab league to send their numbers serve a mission to syria we talked to the syrian government and we convinced them to accept that mission it was not easy it was not that simple the syrian authorities of course they made a lot of mistakes and many things. obviously could have changed the situation to the better but it was done very late we convinced the syrian

authorities to receive this mission of very observers and we also did our best to increase the number of those observers we want them we wanted them to report to the u.n. security council for some reason the arab countries did not want their report that observers prepared to go to the u.n. security council i don't know why i can only speculate but i don't want to do that . because this hasn't been one hundred percent confront we want to that report to go to the units a curate he counseled and immediately after that happened the arab league's stopped that mission and a recall did from syria i think the report was pretty objective pretty and biased. it reported out some unexceptable things done by the syrian government and it also pointed out that this is not just happening in viki that there are well armed

people fighting the syrian government and the government forces probably that was the reason why the mission was recalled maybe somebody didn't like the way it worked and we see the same thing happening now we supported wholeheartedly the point of coffee n n as the special envoy we invited him to moscow immediately after that we supported the ideas he presented and that later. became the six point plan and today we're doing the same the reason we call this conference is not because russia is going to change its stance no it is because we want to implement the annan plan that was supported universally by the u.n. security council but like i said we know what happened with the resolution that introduced the arms embargo in libby and this resolution was violated the window all countries voted for it in the unit security council so we want to make sure that those who supported the annan plan we want to make sure that they were genuine

and then they voted for it so this will be a litmus test we will see how genuine they are in their support of the annan plan a country used. by the way we're seeing openly that this conference. that's used should be the only format if everybody agrees to that the only form it for promoting the decision made in the u.n. security council approving the annan plan. this is not just a. group with a group of friends of syria and then the actual there they're not friends of syria they are friends of the syrian national council and other in the opposition groups including some of them. operating inside syria there they do not agree with that we are saying that syrians the syrian opposition us human. of opposition groups should unite based on the platform of being ready for talks this is what the security

council asks for why then the security council doesn't report to the fact that mr galena who visited moscow and we had moved his talks with him asks for a military intervention and refuses to talk with the government as the un security council has recommended so if you think that group this conference will be used as an umbrella for the friends of syria. i would tell you this is totally not true if everybody wants to support the annan plan they should all come together to one police you can use different names you can call it a conference or a conflict group a conference may decide to set up account a group of the important thing is that everybody should come together around one idea that unites everybody and the friends of syria cannot unite everybody you know

our position remains unchanged. just recently russian president vladimir putin went to china and he reaffirmed that who our position remains unchanged there was also the f c o's summit in beijing and on behalf of all the members of that organization we reaffirmed our stance it remains unchanged but it's not our unclad so this conference is just developing our position taking it further but its essence remains unchanged. can you please make they. ask question one. hello mr love i have only two questions the first test to do with a yesterday's negotiations with mr hoffa have you reached the crimen to it today night estates to hold a conference like that in spite of the differences on iran's participation for the

second question is that there is some information on syria asking russia china and other. countries to hold an investigation on the whole a massacre or. do you support the suggestion to hold an international investigation in hama and houla under the aegis of the united nations thank you. first in my consultations with fred hough it was actually not myself two of my dippy days were engaged in those talks me bug done a film you did you go to all of. them and there was no. there was not a definite no no right to use regarding the conference so we just agreed to continue discussions on the subject yesterday i talked to coffee and about that. you know we want this conference. to be effective for it to be

effective we need to have all the parties who influence various sides involved in the syrian conflict so represented here and iran is one of such countries iran has influence. on the syrian government. so saying that iran should not be there because your reaction is a dead cantor in spite of the problem not part of the solution well i would say that it's inappropriate for serious diplomacy to say that americans are very pragmatic people when they need something they don't pay any attention to ideological issues for example with iran when americans needed to reduce threats for their soldiers in iraq they had meetings with iranians

with no problems made agreements with them it was fine. and we understand that this is normal approach and it's being pretty american paul in foreign policy it is necessary to do that but since they were able to talk to you ran to ensure security for their soldiers in iraq why can't they do the same with in order to use to provide security for syrian people. it is important and the reason why all the parties come to discount for instance because they want to send a clear signal to all the parties involved in the syrian conflict to stop violence we're talking about saving people's lives here. so i hope there will not be a double standard here now as regards your question about investigations did syria suggested that russia and china send their experts we think that we already have

that is situation you have this investigation done by u.n. experts in syria but the very fact that the appeal to us. we regarded as an indication that the syrian leadership is already here to allow international experts come in and see everything for themselves and we can only welcome this kind of openness essentially but. we are we and the chinese are not going to replace the u.n. they're already taking care of this investigation. although we have received reports that some are plenty to interfere with the u.n. activities an investigation what happened in houla based on the ethnic composition of that place this is. what i had been talking about earlier in the sunni shia conflict l.-a whites and sunni's living quite close

to each other. so when the crisis deteriorates when you see more and more of the violence in extreme islam and terrorism and this it's sick tarion tensions. that used to be on little lateral. and they become manifest. to degree because of instigation from abroad which saw the un will take care of in day investigation and i hope that those who have influence on the militants will also tell them not to interfere with this investigation with like we do with the syrian government we do the same.

at the. newspaper i had. mr lavrov over the last taste we have heard of some eighty years to. work out in more detail of the annan plan and about the deadlines. what would you say about this idea. in terms of developing the annan plan further i would say we can only make it more details i don't think it's no longer relevant you know every part of this plan is still relevant but in the borders deal for each point especially those points that have to do with stopping violence and starting political dialogue we need to make it more concrete more detailed and this is what the conference we're talking about you supposed to do supposed to help with we need the mechanism to very fired that all parties have stopped the military. activities so we need

a mechanism for. opening a political dialogue and this is what we are going to discuss at the conference s. for timeline for this plan. once again this is just an attempt to use ultimatums and then when time expires they'll say we will not extend the mandate for un observers and then it will have this critical situation. when the international community will. force the u.n. security council to sanction military intervention this is very obvious we can see through it very easily with a little from them. i referred earlier to de or what happened to arab

observers just a month later they were called what can you do in the month but still they achieved something. and gradually they should have made for the progress build on that and the syrian government was open to receive an unlimited number of arab service their number was greater than the number of units or was we have to d.d. had almost a thousand and the head of the arab league not made this decision to recall them for some obscure reason we would have had. with the in the very good network of international presence in syria arab monitors could have been used but it could have been complimented with observers from other regions and this was a mistake and we need to realize that if that is serious of this mistakes mistaken decisions are made as soon as we have a ray of hope for peaceful resolution this makes us think that some of our partners

international partners from the very start they wanted to follow this principle off the worry is the better if they just wanted to have an excuse for a military intervention as soon as possible so we need to make sure right now that . the annan plan. will not. feel the same way and we don't need artificial an artificial timeline do you have a timeline for the palestinian issue no because everybody realizes the severely complex issue why should syria be any different for all. of us have russia. yesterday called for and tara clinton discussed the situation in syria as well and apart from the international efforts to promote

there and then clamp they also spoke of a strategy to transfer political power doesn't mean that for the west shelf transfer of power is already solved. well again this is. one of the biggest contradictions essentially i think this is what the american said after their meeting with kofi annan but kofi annan himself said that in this league women should be achieved by the syrians themselves at least this was my impression when i talked to him on the phone yesterday we believe that outside police should not impose anything should not impose any models that are on the. syrians parties in the conflict we should just create conditions for them to reach an agreement we should force them literally to come to the negotiating table of course first we need to stop. combat operations like i said the

reason we want to have this conference is not to predetermine the outcome of the political resolution we just need to create conditions for the syrians to get to work out this solution themselves we need to just encourage them to continue talks this is what we do in the. palestinian israeli conflict in other conflicts around the globe where the international community always follows this universally accepted principle that it is up to the parties to reach an agreement the now gordon could have bought the conflict is the same it's in the same category the ows group just encourages both parties to look for a solution and that we shouldn't use the same principle in other cases including syria.

so that our obeah would like to take a floor to give you those long hours to like to come back to the un and plan with and the situation in iran the plan so the advent plan for a few weeks has already been underway here to to be implemented and there being a lot of negotiations and meetings and so far no results said to sake that this international conference that you are putting forward may really promoted the advent plan or is your trying to get this part is together because the the plan is that impasse and you have to work out a new approach. well i realize you have to follow your editorial policy and there's no you there's nothing you can do you know i don't think this situation in scope

for so with the annan plan. i repeat this year and not the first time to d.c. the reason we suggested this conference is to implement the annan plan by. a concerted effort from international players to influence the parties involved in the syrian conflict to help them come to the negotiating table and reach an agreement. i would not say that the end plan is not being implemented in any of its points like some of our foreign colleagues tend to say they just use it. as something that they can look for influence people with it's a very short phrase the annan plan is not being implemented in any of the points they just repeated time and again and eventually people start to deliberate you're remember the first point right the need. to work actively with

the. annan team a lot with the quick british people to start a political process well the government is in contact with the coffee and scroope and coffee ends happy with these contacts there is there are no lobster calls for contacts between the keys team and the government of course. the content of these contacts is not entirely satisfactory but still there is some progress actually the head of the u.n. mission general mood in his reports to the u.n. security council he writes that the syrian government is caught pretty and they are providing assistance as they have promised. well now the next point de-bug stop the hostilities and. about cease fire from that shell initially after april the twelfth the syrian forces really with truth

from city is cool and i remember some criticize them for not withdrawing far enough but very furred to their experience from the previous year when they did this same decision by the arab league they would withdraw from cities and then armed opposition forces would immediately move in. but this is by the way is another indication that we need a mechanism a mechanism that would ensure the demilitarization of the c.d.'s one pts government forces leave them this is another thing we need to consider in there is something that the international community can do here so with this syrian army losing about thirty people working every day i don't think it is peaceful protesters who kill those.