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foundation of modern russia celebrates its twenty thousand of those who today up next veteran politicians. looks at what the holiday means for a young state with centuries of history. until. june the twelfth holiday here in russia on this day ninety nine the russian federation today first sounded.

and collapse very soon opening a new page in history my guest on the show today is the watched. process from the inside. set of. the early ninety's it was a very tough time for russia and its former u.s.s.r. allies gorbachev perestroika led to a huge economic and political crisis which resulted in the collapse of the largest country in the world the final decision was made in december of ninety ninety one during one of the russia supreme council session conservative nationalists or. was one of the few people. against the saltiest dissolution in the new russian stages staunchly opposed the new government in many obese reforms mr created several political parties and was elected to parliament three times.

welcome to the show. to twelve so we celebrate russia today. commemorating russia's state sovereignty declaration that you were a member of parliament back then the very problem and adopted the declaration. what was the essence of the declaration as seen at the time and why is that today's russians often referred to june twelfth as the dependence day. but i wasn't just a member of parliament i was one of the people who are rude the declaration and from where i'm standing so bringing independence day or even russia on june the twelfth outright ridiculous. it doesn't it seem strange to me that it is absurd as the purpose of the declaration was to try to find a medellin's of competencies between new soviet union and russia as its constituent

republic. those who think the declaration was strictly bout independence and not actually read it. they don't realize that its key point was to establish the russian soviet federative socialist republic as a legal state within the soviet union. what should. go and indivisible state doesn't that hilton's go liberate the us and was aiming to prevent a split up of russia certainly the declaration was a bundle of contradictions or rather compromises upon my initiative edited out at birth vision that would extend to soviet autonomy says the same right of sovereignty that russia had several years after that i was the worst enemy for the autonomy's having deprived them of state sovereignty but mind you i wasn't due in

iraq or tour for the amendment but the reports you're permanently now instead a comment was reserved in this issue for serbia but were yeltsin back my motion at the time and the provision was removed where it was so you literally preserved russia when its present borders otherwise it would have been torn into pieces just like the soviet union but the declaration was supposed to consolidate the use of sar it actually stated supremacy of union law and provided that the constituent republics shall govern themselves within the legal boundaries set by a new union treaty or unfortunately the situation unfolded in a different fashion in the declaration ended up being used to break up the soviet union in fact that is why it is being celebrated today. twenty years after the twelfth of june became a national holiday in russia the attitude towards it is still mixed there is this report from spotlights to me that. all was simple and clear when the us is

saw the country's major national day was in memory of the great october socialist revolution which brought in and sorry still rush hour. the communist ideology never allowed to question the supremum importance of the event but seventy five years later with the co-op's of the soviet union the new democratic russia found itself in need of another big national reason to celebrate the new russian leader boris yeltsin came up with one in one thousand nine hundred two. introduced on the twelfth of june was initially called the day of the adoption of the declaration of the state sovereignty of russia however in forming the name it was quickly shortened by the public to independence day no one could tell from whom exactly the country got independent moreover many question the event chosen for celebration as it was just one of many steps in the film ation of soviet russia finally in one

thousand ninety eight the holy day god its current name day of russia according to all who carried out by live by the center last year only forty percent of russians knew what exactly they celebrate on june twelfth seven years ago yet another big national holiday was established people's unit today it commemorates the popular uprising which expelled foolishly through any and occupation forces from moscow when sixteen twelve celebrated on the fourth of november however it also reminds the older generation of the usual november seventh the day of the great actor was socialist revolution. on the day the declaration was adopted could you imagine that in little more than me here. would cease to exist and russia would become its legal successor. and you know it is could all i do or see that none of us same

piece at the time could see it coming either in their tree names or their nightmares. which i use pressing for it to say good move away really do in store. no he wasn't i'm convinced that yeltsin was not at least roy in his initial aspirations using was power though he was ready to destroy only something that was in his way in seizing power. and the so-called periodic opposition made a mistake by. retargeted yeltsin from breaking up the soviet union surely conquering it as a leader. it war z. active but. many would disagree they see the split up of the u.s.s.r. as hilton's way of ascending to power he has and of them it is an other republics. that is what the bella vision accords are worth but by then yeltsin had exhausted

his options for ousting poor but taking his office following the coup obvious nine hundred ninety one ukraine openly defied the yeltsin and other republics ditched him not russia but since government has prompted him to cling on to russia he is the only fiefdom availabilities what road did the declaration of sovereignty eventually play in russia's transform ation in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine to one. that would have what is good no single event should be evaluated separately from its context that to get the money you need to know your own mind did the declaration but it was russia's response to national so wrong to declarations by the baltic republics armenia and so on. i'm with daughters was the russian parliament tyrian so we have seen we have some rights to you know how

come it's just you demanding something in acting like we owe you a short this idea you know we're all in this together or we should all pay our bills being stone mutual interest but it was a kind of shock therapy that could play a positive role which it actually did you know nine hundred ninety seven when all the other republics conceded to negotiate with russia they were surprised to see a russian merges a standalone actor in parallel to the soviet union unfortunately this opportunity was wasted and once the new union treaty got stoled the gorbachev team had turned around and hijacked the treaty initiative then emasculated it says and says by august nine hundred ninety eight the proposal is dead there's something i want to tell you if it wasn't for the coup off august one thousand and one the soviet union would have formally ceased. tunas east on aug twentieth one thousand and two one

supposed to be signed and that is what the bell sought to prevent they didn't make it and their failure eventually accelerated the collapse of school but at least they managed to prolong the agony of the us a sorer tool december ninety nine to one. if you could be described as a veteran parliamentarian with several terms in parliament this is russia's second state to mid term while you are not a member of parliament why is that. to tell you the truth i didn't even run in the last parliamentary election when. i had collaborated with a few political parties in forming a popular collison but i wound up first treated as having lost faith in the election system in its present form. i believe it's time for a constitutional. option we need to prevent the public from losing respect for the government. we need. real political

competition today which is good but so difficult. it's just a new law is about to come into effect in russia which will liberalize the registration procedure for political parties does this mean that you'll russian popular union will also get registered. in fact we've already applied for registration for the oh so you have. and we're planning to make it in politics. conservative and traditionalist party. gets on my list so you support this new law then yes well i believe it is insufficient but it's still good. it is much more important that we should ensure equal campaign opportunities in a fairly cold country but otherwise all the new point is will be nothing more than dressing meskin a good old if you're

a critic system because legacy dates back to the soviet times says. former deputy russian food critic council and leader that russian people. will be back shortly afterward to. great so stay with them.

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welcome back to squat live in just a reminder that my guest on the show today is set to give probably deputy in the russian supreme council and the leader of the russian peoples union. has been but with this to the poor in which you said you had already submitted paperwork to register your union as a political party a party when do you think the a both to nominate your candidate elections but there is levels. we may take part in elections or soon as we receive our registration certificate and complete our reorganizational we different from the new parties that were

organized after president medvedev still had a past we began to form our party even before him and that first mentioned the idea . to change the procedure at the state of the union address last december we have been there for the past twenty years first as an end to your then as a political party then again as a popular movement but being disappointed with the parliamentary election of two thousand and eleven and the way it was organized we held a convention and decided we wouldn't be war you know political party. you put in your some people see they. knew about the coming reform before hand but actual of course it was a coincidence but what you wish there were any way we would go in the same direction would be political reforms in fact we are slightly ahead as regards the timeline and we hope to take part in regional elections this fall. it would seem

that that this fall so soon ok. few minutes ago you said you are not with the existing political system what it would need to. and many interpret the protests. took place in moscow and a few other cities last winter but as an indication knew that i was society i would grow way and. political system. to your great he even the. alexander this is their right there were keeshan when i threw in a greek. because our society has really outgrew in its old clothes so to speak. we need to take a fresh look at our situation. but it is absurd to dismiss those protests as instigated by the cia or by politicians. political

many of my friends chile attended those release from the very start not because they love people like you it's all for. them they did it to suppress their personal protest. what i knew say you fully agree but the people tended those protests are not exactly the kind of people you are lying. on to your electorate is your social base. station of total meter you'll be surprised what other time the second relative place i was there and by the time know the real in pushkin square i was already on the platform and dressing the crowd together with. in many others. even though this doesn't mean we're friends. but there are values that people should have in common regard listserv their political views these

include critique procedures genuine and fair elections. when you go to the police once we make it into the new parliament we can have our disputes in arguments dear but at this point we can't allow petty electoral officials to tamper with people's votes. we all must put up a common front against. bush and there was one more thing i want to see but perhaps a was the only speaker on pushkin square who did not mention. that i think that the slogan russia without putin use quite naive. i think russia still needs putin's in order to carry out this constitutional reform. movement. if that roy i'm sorry in other words he was saying that to russia revolutions and reforms should be initiated at the top and go down at this point all you can do at the top

is let the steam otherwise the more lower will burst at the bottom all conditions are there. yes it's saying you're aware of this is the kremlin aware of this i don't think so not yet but why then do you vote for put in if you're saying he doesn't say this who told you i vote for you just said russia needs him i said that unlike other protesters i think he can still be useful. but you think he does not understand the people on the street i strongly believe that there is no point in replacing the person in charge without changing the system do you really think someone from our opposition leaders will do that or cut for good we should break way from this legacy of communist party in iraq or see. to reforms were to change the system but unfortunately bureaucracy reproduced it so from the larger scale entre yeltsin. through the bureaucratic system has survived became even

stronger seized most of the property in russia. this is what we have to fight against yes we need to dismantle loose system put otherwise there will be no fair elections then next hundred diesel will sure if i'm wrong or right but i think. still has the potential to change the system. to use a victim of the system even though he heads it. so let's hope he sees that. well de vaux. search which in this part of the system. i'm not quite happy with what he's doing with the new government and some other things. but i still have hope for him and ideas that. you're criticizing the government it's understandable but on the other hand to many in the country including there with or it is criticize you want to see why do elegy is somewhat

nationalist and many people are afraid of nationalism is what alter nationalism is regarded perhaps as the biggest threat in russia after terrorism what's your take on the cup win there. you know first off this card is played by those who want to use ethnic tensions in order to bring russia down. but by the way these people use a double standard they condemn nationalism when talking about russia i think their views are quite different actually when they talk about their own countries at least ninety percent of the western politicians are nationalists they see the love their nation they see the want to protect their nation's interests but why should russians be any different to soon as we call ourselves russians they almost accuse are still being enticed semitic even if we don't say a word about jews going into them the very word russians is inappropriate so i urge

everybody both liberals and even many peter it's to get their alexa construed and stop confusing nationalism with sharpton is someone is mean so you hate other people as you know forbid you're selfish as a nation we should condemn that but loving your country is different it is something every nation needs in order to survive and this is proper nationalism conservative and balanced nationalism. when you knew some say that liberalization of politics especially in a country like russia will inevitably propel the nationalists but even given ultranationalists to power. really. it's not true what liberalization may do is create a callous but that's why i say that what we need is more order more freedom and you know what we need is truly fear elections to be over i agree that if the

initial stage the smi provide a boost for conservative forces which could it be but you have to realize that ethnic nationalists more fasces me. r l u two russian society we're all scum and what they do exist don't say. these are all good union in then it to keep people in fear. but we all have seen people marching on the streets mistrust. and i have seen those people getting paid for doing that not only so you look at the time i was deputy speaker's office to duma the people's union speech to russian mortgage it is i was standing on the platform and i saw foreign correspondents who asked a group of young people facing them not even facing the platform you know would tell you go for you to claim this foreign correspondents who staged protests in moscow no no no i mean he just came across those young people to them it's like

a russian with. this thing russia must have facets they can't comprehend that fascism is a very enticing russian ideology so i dressed those young people right from the platform i said what are you doing guy what are you going to do with the money you are discrediting the patriotic forces unfortunately will always have provocative. i'm convinced today more provocative force in one thousand nine hundred three when the president he also ordered to troops to storm the parliament building those provocative words shot in the back both those defending the parliament and those who are storming it. they were provoked tourists in one thousand nine to one. of their the ones who incited ethnic conflicts in the corner car a buck and other places i have no doubt that they had a hand even in their recent trailers in moscow. this just means that people who

want to destroy russia are getting ready for changes and i want you through words to get ready for changes to not by dispersing the protesters but by realizing what is happening in society. in other words you believe there is no nationalism all fascism can russia today to the extent that it would pose a threat to the system. i believe we should stop viewing nationalism as a threat of. nationalism a means hold on the people but like patriotism you mean exactly because nationalism should not be ethnic and nation is more than just a mason he group it is a combination of ethnic groups that form one culture one civilization every country needs discussion of nationalism to survive spicy about thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind you that my guest on the show today was a politician said again. and that's it for now from all of us here if you want to

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