opening a new face in history my guest on the show today is the ballad who watched the process from the inside former deputy national supreme council said again. good early ninety's was a very tough time for russia and its former u.s.s.r. allies gorbachev's perestroika led to a huge economic and political crisis resulted in the collapse of the largest country in the world the final decision was made in december of ninety ninety one during one of the russia supreme council sessions conservative nationalists or poor it was one of the pew people's deputies to vote against the soviets dissolution in the new russian state staunchly opposed the new government and many of its reforms mr butler it created several political parties and was elected to parliament three times. though

mr boren and welcome to the show. on june to twelve so we celebrate russia today commemorating russia's state sovereignty declaration that you were a member of parliament back then the very problem and adopted the declaration declared as what was the essence of the declaration that as soon as the time and why is that today's russians often referred to june twelfth as the dependence day. but i wasn't just a member of parliament i was one of the people who are rude the declaration and from where i'm standing so bring independence teacher or even russia do on june the twelfth outright ridiculous. it doesn't it seem strange to me but it is absurd as the purpose of the declaration was to try to find a balance of competencies between the soviet union and russia as its constituent republic. those who think the declaration was strickly but independence is not

actually read it. they don't realize that its key point was to establish the russian soviet federative socialist republic as a legal state within the soviet union. and legal and indivisible state that putin's go. in was aiming to prevent a split up of russia certainly the declaration was a bundle of contradictions or rather compromises upon my initiative edited out at birth vision that would extend to soviet autonomy says the same right of sovereignty that russia had several years after that i was the worst enemy for the autonomy having deprived them of state sovereignty but i wasn't sure for the amendment but the reports you're prudently know instead a comment was reserved in this issue for serbia but yeltsin back my motion at the

time and the provision was removed so you literally preserved russia in its present borders otherwise it would have been torn into pieces just like the soviet union but the declaration was supposed to consolidate the use or sar it actually stated d.c. premised c.e.o. of union law and provided the constituent republics shall govern themselves within the legal boundaries set by a new union treaty unfortunately the situation unfolded in a different fashion in the declaration it is being used to break up the soviet union in fact that is why it is being celebrated today. twenty years after the twelfth of june became a national holiday in russia the attitude towards it it's still mixed here is this report from spotlights. or was simple and clear when the us is saw the country's major national day was in memory of the great october socialist

revolution which brought in than sorry. the communist ideology never allowed to question the supremum portions of the event but seventy five years later with the co-op's of the soviet union the new democratic russia found itself in need of another big national reason to celebrate the new russian leader boris yeltsin came up with one in one thousand nine hundred two. traduced on the twelfth of june was initially the day of the adoption of the declaration of the state sovereignty of russia however in forming the name it was quickly shortened by the public to independence day no one could tell from whom exactly the country got independent moreover many question the event chosen for celebration as it was just one of many steps in the film ation of course soviet russia finally in one thousand ninety eight the holy day god its current name day of russia according to all who carried

out by live by the center last year only forty percent of russians knew what exactly they celebrate on june twelfth seven years ago yet another big national holiday was established people's unit today it commemorates the popular uprising which expelled foolishly when an occupation forces from moscow when sixteen twelve celebrated on the fourth of november however it also reminds the older generation of the usual november seventh the day of the great at the top a socialist revolution. on the day the declaration was adopted could you imagine that. ceased to exist and become its legal successor. it is little i do or see the same piece at the time could see it coming you either in their dreams or their nightmares. which i use

pressing for it to move away. no he wasn't i'm convinced that yeltsin was not destroying his initial aspirations he's in was power he was ready to destroy only something that was in his way in seizing power. and the so called periodic opposition made a mistake. retargeted. from breaking up the soviet union toured. it as a leader. but. many would disagree they see the split up of the u.s.s.r. as hiltons way of ascending to power he is and of then it is an other republics. that is what the bell of as accords a war by then yeltsin had exhausted his options for ousting poor but taking his office following the coup of all this nine hundred ninety one ukraine openly defied

a yeltsin and other republics ditched him not russia but yet since government this prompted him to cling on to russia is the only fiefdom availabilities what road did the declaration of sovereignty eventually play in russia's transform ation in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine to one of. which is good no single event should be evaluated separately from its context at the unity or in mind at the declaration but it was russia's response to national so read to declarations by the baltic republics armenia moldova and so on it. was the russian parliament teary and so we have seen we have some rights to you know how come it's just you demanding something in like we owe you an. idea you know we're all in this

together or we should all pay our bills it would be nice don't mutual interest. but it was a kind of shock therapy that could play a positive role which death truly did you ninety nine so you went all the other republics consider to negotiate with russia they were surprised to see a russian merges a standalone actor and parallel to the soviet union unfortunately this opportunity was wasted once the new union treaty got stoled the gorbachev team had turned around and hijacked the treaty initiative then emasculated it says since august nine hundred ninety eight the proposal is dead there's something i want to tell you if it wasn't for the coup off august one thousand and one nice soviet union would have formally ceased to exist on august twentieth one thousand and one supposed to be signed and that is what the condell sought to prevent they didn't make it and

their failure eventually accelerated the collapse of school but at least they managed to prolong the agony of the us a sora tool december ninety nine to one. you could be described as a veteran parliamentarian with several terms in parliament this is russia's second state to mid term while you are not a member of parliament was that. to tell you the truth i didn't even run in the last parliamentary election. i had collaborated with a few political parties in forming a popular collison but i wound up first treated having lost faith in the election system in its present form. i believe it's time for a constitutional. option we need to prevent the public from losing respect for the government. we need. real political competition today but still. a new law is about to come into effect

in russia liberalized a registration procedure for political parties does this mean that you'll russian popular union will also get registered with. fact we've already applied for registration of the oh so you. and we are planning to make a comeback in politics as a conservative and traditionalist party. that some of these so you support this new law then yes well i believe it is insufficient but it's still good. it is much more important that we should ensure equal campaign opportunities are in a fairly cold country but otherwise all the new parties will be nothing more than dressing meskin a good old bureaucratic system whose legacy dates back to the soviet times says soon bob would inform the deputy russian food critic council and leader that

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welcome back to spotlight i'm al gore now in just a reminder that my guest on the show today is set to give deputy in the russian supreme council and the leader of the russian peoples in the end. has been the midst of a boring when you said you had already submitted a paper work to register your union as a political party a party when do you think he'll be able to nominate your candidates for elections but there is slevin as. we may take part in elections or soon as we receive our registration certificate and complete our reorganizational we differing from the new parties that were organized after president medvedev still has a past we began to form our party even before him and that first mentioned the.

change in the procedure state of the union address last december we have been there for the past twenty years first as an end to you old then as a political party then again as a popular movement and indeed being disappointed with the parliamentary election of two thousand and eleven in the way it was organized we held a convention and decided to we wouldn't we were going on a scene to a political party. some people see they. knew about the coming reform before hand but actual of course it was a coincidence but what you wish that we anyway we were going in the same direction would be political reform so in effect we are slightly ahead as regards the timeline and we hope to take part in regional elections this fall. this fall so soon ok. a few minutes ago you said you were not.

existing political system. and many interpret the protests took place in moscow and a few other cities last winter but as an indication that i was society i would grow way. political system. i. agree he even. alexander this is their royal work keeshan when i threw in greek. because our society has really groomed its old clothes so to speak. we need to take a fresh look at our situation. it is absurd to dismiss those protests he says instigated by the cia or by politicians. many of my friends actually attended those release from the very start not because

they love people like you it's all for. them they did it to express their personal protest. you say you fully agree but the people who tended the protesters are not exactly the kind of people you rely on. your social base. you'll be surprised what other time the second relative place i was there and by the time know the real him pushkin square i was already on the platform and stressing the crowd together with. many others. even though this doesn't mean we are friends. but there are values that people should have in common regardless of their political views these include credit procedures genuine and fair elections. when you. once we

make it into the new parliament we can have our disputes in argument sphere but at this point we can't. tamper with people's votes. we all must put up a common front against debt. and there was one more thing i want to say but perhaps a was the only speaker on pushkin square who did not mention. i think that the slogan russia without putin is quite naive. so i think russia still needs putin's in order to carry out this constitutional reform. if. i'm sorry in other words he's saying that to russia revolutions and reforms should be initiated at the top and. at this point all we can do at the top book is let the steam otherwise the more lower will burst at the bottom all conditions are there. yes it's saying you're aware of this is the kremlin aware of this i don't think so

not yet but why then do you vote for put in if you're saying he doesn't say this who told you i'd vote for it just said russia needs him i said that unlike other protesters i think he can still be useful. but you think he does not understand the people on the streets i strongly believe that there is no point in replacing the person in charge without changing the system do you really think someone from our opposition leaders will. cut for good we should break way from this legacy of communist party in iraq or see who are reforms were to change the system but unfortunately bureaucracy reproduced it so from the larger scale entre yeltsin. the bureaucratic system has survived became even stronger it seems that most of the property in russia. this is what we have. to fight against yes we need to

dismantle loose system otherwise there will be no fair elections the next hundred days so will sure if i'm wrong or right but i think that. still has the potential to change the system. he to use a victim of the system even though he heads it. so let's hope he sees that. which in this part of the system. i'm not quite happy with what he's doing with the new government and some other things. but i still have hope for him. you're criticizing the government it's understandable but on the other hand to many in the country including there was or it is criticize you know i do a legit is somewhat nationalistic and many people are afraid of nationalism what alter nationalism is regarded perhaps as the biggest threat in russia after

terrorism what's your take on the. you know first off this card is played by those who want to use ethnic tensions in order to bring russia down. by the way these people use a double standard they condemn nationalism when talking about to russia but their views are quite different actually when they talk about their own countries at least ninety percent of western politicians are nationalists they see the love their nation they say do you want to protect their nation's interests why should russians be any different to soon as we call ourselves russians they almost accuse are still being anti-semitic even if we don't say a word about two years. into them the very word russians is inappropriate so i urge everybody both liberal sin even many peter it's to get their alexa construed and stop confusing nationalism. with shaaban is something is means no heat other people

here is you know fog you're selfish as a nation we should condemn that but loving your country is different it is something every nation needs in order to survive and this is proper nationalism conservative and balanced nationalism. some say that liberalization of politics especially in a country like russia will inevitably propel nationalists and even ultra nationalists to power. it's not true what liberalization may do is create. that's why i say that what we need is more order more freedom. what we need is truly fear elections to be i agree that if the initial stage the smi provided juiced for conservative forces which is what you have to realize that you ethnic nationalists

more sas is. delhi and to russian society. but they do exist don't say. these are all good men in then it to keep people in fear. but we all have seen people marching on the street to a swastika. and i have seen those people getting paid for doing that. time i was deputy speaker's office to do the people's union staged a russian more church in this i was standing on the platform and i saw foreign correspondents who ask a group of young people facing them not even facing the platform. there you go for you to claim this foreign correspondents who staged protests in moscow no no no i mean he just came across those young people to them it's like a russian with. this thing russia must have facets. they can't comprehend that

fascism is a very enticing russian ideology a week so i addressed those young people right from the platform i said what are you doing guy what are you going to do with the money they pay you are discrediting the patriotic forces unfortunately will always have provocative. i'm convinced today more provoke interests in one thousand nine hundred three when the president yeltsin ordered the troops to storm the parliament building those provoked a tourist shot in of them both those defending the parliament and those who are storming it that they were provoked tourists in one thousand nine to one. of these are the ones who incited ethnic conflicts in the horn the car above and other places i have no doubt that they had a hand even in their recent trailers in moscow. this just means that people who want to destroy russia are getting ready for changes and i want you through words to get ready for changes to mugged by dispersing the protestors but by realizing

what is happening in society. in other words you believe there is no nationalism at all flash or some new russia today to the extent that it would pose a threat to the system. i believe we should stop viewing nationalism as a threat or. nationalism means hope. like patriotism you mean exactly because nationalism should not be ethnic and nation is more than just an eighth and he group it is a combination of ethnic groups that form one culture one civilization every country needs this kind of nationalism to survive spicy about thank you thank you very much for being with us in just a reminder that my guest on the show today was a politician said again. and that's it for now from all of us here if you want to add to your sound spotlight or have someone in mind. so you think i should interview nights trying to drop me

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