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ships have set sail for syria as a media frenzy accuses moscow of carrying weapons to the war torn country by sea. by my colleague bill dog he's here in half an hour's time. with his explosive show now he's talking to a man who wants to change pakistan from the inside imraan khan right now. you know his secret lover a jury in the caribbean was able to build a new most sophisticated robot which all unfortunately doesn't give a doing about anything tim's mission to teach me creation why you should care about humans and we're going this is why you should care watch only on the dot com. time julian assange on. strike. get us through what he makes of expose the world

secrets these documents belong united states government being attacked by the powerful united states strongly condemn the said quote after quote he broke the law illegally should stop the five hundred days now i've been detained without charge but that hasn't stopped us. today we're on a quest for revolutionary ideas that can change the world tomorrow. from humble origins my next guest imran khan became a household name as captain of pakistan's victorious cricket team he then left sports and launched his movement for justice party in the most dangerous political environment on a. four years can anti corruption party was ignored in two thousand and seven us state department cables referred to him as pakistan's one man party. but pakistan is changing. over the last two years widespread anger over u.s.

drone strikes and corrupt political dynasties has proven millions to his cause i want to know why is he now front runner to be the next leader of pakistan. hi julian. i'm all right i have a bit of a cold but i think that's a good thing because my voice is a bit sexier than normal and i have to go basically. and i told them interesting tones it would you have everybody just today well i think your interesting time is a bit more interesting than my interesting time i saw these videos of your rallies last night so i think this is great but i worry you're going to get blown up. so i hope your interesting time doesn't get any more into the spirit didn't you go to go sometime yeah the second of those are some of them just. like i mean i was you know when i said i just got this hospital so i used to see. you but i'm going in six months later they were gone so i have

a completely different attitude to life and you're not around for long so you might as well make the most of it if. you don't realize it back to. the wiki leaks mid not just. let me let me pour you a merry go broken up for some reason where we're just lost you for a minute like a your your back again. back to me and all over the world but by the sun the with the exposed all of these two faced one additions you know who was sucking up to the american in the same. drive and telling them how great they were. you know sucking up to them and public giving completely opposites to it was a rare especially this one really just this guy. who was declaring leads this religious logic and he literally doing the americans he said look if you back me to

become the prime minister i would never want to do. and he's considered the most anti american politician so he was it was a. it really exposed a lot of people. tell him run can you describe what what are the big power factions in pakistan is the i.s.i. the army is the supreme court the old families how would you describe the basic power structure of pakistan. well the babylon five just aren't just like in the middle east is above a statistical and trans-jordan statistical what you call the boss structure benefitted from the system and the majority of the population want to change it so what you see in the middle east is exact numbers but as the west looks upon muslim societies and there's some war going on within fundamentalist and liberals islam fundamentalists the brothers actually and this is really the divided up in the

muslim world which is why everyone got surprised by the arab spring and by is the one with the following i have been are is the sin by the same people who are going to go to the middle east people who want to get james and just it just for the now what does this do just one focused on with the political mafia else all of the political parties have not got together as being so they have sort of the this is a desert this is a good side of the gulf this is a good sign is it iran that if people are gathering around to oppose you very very must be scared. of the five because the last stand by the sun we saw red is as big as the doing to god one of. the lot and one of the grudge was forty years ago was the goal you would do the father don't be uneasy and when that these sort of the numbers don't know you swept the election he just went

and he was an underdog and you just feel bodies along the way so that's why difficult skin we researched the wiki leaks cables from islamabad to see what they said about you and in two thousand and seven the u.s. ambassador said. who's p.t.i. party is effectively a one man show has little to lose his credibility rests in he so created role as a politician he sticks to his principles and he's popular with the pakistani intelligence here and elements of diaspora but khan has never been able to turn his starring role as captain of pakistan's only team to really win the international cricket championship into an effective political party that's obviously changed now what's happened in the last few months when julian what happened was that. the media. from above the times will fight on words we suddenly had.

the friesian of independent television jones. the most. the most watched programs begin to fear programs so today if you watch the television it's like having read jeremy that one don't sweat gave you have. these these guys have become a billion moves like jury votes and you will have one on the mean one of all the journals and. where you would for instance have a big brother in england or some sort of rock here don't even want to watch it don't interfere programs. such as the desire. to understand the political situation of people's such as the interest that they are diamond did they have the highest viewership it's a what's happened in the past six months i mean there's really been a tremendous rise the opinion polls by bread have your popular support at something

between sixty to eighty percent. of the pakistani population perhaps you can describe this. how your party has grown in size and momentum and what's it like in the for you try to manage this incredibly fast growing organization first of all of what go to elections in two thousand and eight. because you know these elect the elections bug manipulated by the bush administration big group to deal between with cher and been received with all of the corruption cases blood and not only the other look at politicians they were given an amnesty by a shell and this was the deal brokered by the americans and it was the end not only nationally can see this ordinance so in the middle of reading solution the americans got it was shut up and been is it together and got all these are

a case in the latest book drive with due dates above that whole bush get we're about on the back when she got them together and sort of. so sort of so. and along with a lot of the by just why go to the election. because we've for the supposedly boring. for a while wake up and down because we stood up and actions and then as the governments began to mess up because once the good riddance came to buy our corruption broke all records and biased nationally because when you have a lot of big i don't want to be like us and so as the way it was dug remembering that i want everyone to know is what got in the election that this election is a disease it's going to be a disaster for the people of bias the one it's only meant for the bush administration to have the public wonder who won but it was sure it was struggling

so he was like to go they wanted another puppet government so they could pursue this war on terror without a lot of arm was blowing on him and still. whatever i was saying and went through the roof the war on terror was has been devastated by this for a because for two thousand and one despite his have been killed in a war we have nothing to do we're up busy our own army killing on people and then get it then doing so so the notes on the box that is evidence and they can be done again the cost of seventy billion dollars of this war totally it has been less than twenty billion so all i will save on these things and suddenly. it just resonated with a big and almost two years ago my gut grass started going up as though says the big bad and the who are going to go see this james. we are seeing our politicians rushing to me so people who are electable is realizing that the war banner not

belongs to me and i'm going to do and i heard that even even musharaff tried to say to you. you you pm me president. well there you see bush or. does not understand what's happening in pakistan because he's outside is all over you know one of texas on the face book he doesn't realize that on the ground and by just on the situation is this is a completely different number one can be the biggest liability to get a life but number two he's responsible for the mess he's responsible for this is a record of corruption because he's the one to give them amnesty the good of the good of the new order in the world i've given has given amnesty and that i don't contest elections again and good luck on that and secondly this war on terror cities responsible if you look at say the soviet union which also had

a lot of corruption but people said well that. while at least the black market is a market. so you're going to have some kind of trading it helps you get around regulations which are impeding business. what is the problem with corruption in pakistan why is why is corruption bad for pakistan just to give you know the statistics then i do not and i am history of sixty years the total debt if you milledge it by bikes the un is about was five trillion in just four years the debt has gone up from the problem by closer. so we had. to to service our debts so if not of one point eight trillion. debt servicing is eight hundred billion harvard debt service and six hundred billion goes to before the army how did they leave the million people who have two hundred million

to be used as a liberal so clearly the ganges and why and so on and is of russia they could still go on in gears and. we're looking at the atlas we're looking at. us going down the drain the country is heading towards complete chaos we don't have the money to the run the country and at the moment load shedding we don't have money to buy and you do. not buy our generation so because we get a lot of buy food for a barge initial of the government are there's almost fourteen hours notice that there's no electricity for fourteen hours a day. and and the corruption in pakistan the tax evasion is one thing but the the stealing of money from the treasury how much of that ends

are back in pakistan i.e. it's just taking from the poor the middle class and transferring it to the rich in pakistan versus how much of the money is taken out of pakistan and stashed into london banks or stashed into swiss banks or u.s. companies. so do things number one because we do not have money to bear for to get finest of oil for our generation the country is having load shedding this little electricity for fourteen to fifteen hours and it did eighteen hours in the rural areas. that would mean the farmers don't run they're. the do birds to water their crops that means factories and industries are closing down there because there's massive unemployment on top of the inflation so that's one aspect of corruption the second is it was sort of this money ends up and this was a dance of the dog wasn't the only political leader in the middest

money are slightly biased on and i have everything in august and then in my nam apart from the more particularly this head of political bodies there have banned guns and brought their properties abroad and this is not declared so all of this money most of this money and some of the country but let's move on to the u.s. . tell me about this assassination of osama bin laden in pakistan what was the feeling in pakistan that the i.s.i. was hiding this i would get a lot of that there in confidence why. was a solid bin laden in pakistan do you know what you must understand is that some of been not there was trained by the i.r.s. and cia. did warlow adam was created by the cia and i.s.i. about twenty years back so this is this is these people were assets of the by this

time are. they would really by the biased and i mean the i.s.i. financed by this yeah but they were fighting the soviets and for a long time these groups had very close association with the most unsecured agencies now suddenly comes no new labor and you do a lot of the leading degrees does i mean we showed us a hundred to be stolen. but it didn't mean that all along the way people would have accepted this because here what people are trained for jihad our job and this is even in this case means by doing the foreign occupation so obviously the can miss them having indoctrinating not only. these militant groups but also your own intimacies that they're fighting foreign occupation is it is a religious duty or a right some subset in the i.s.i. some people perhaps who are dealt with in the past who are still loyal as goes

people who would have thought that if i do another foreign occupation which is not the worst it's also religious duty of course if it's possible as it is there a feeling that the u.s. is helping our clean out militants in pakistan or is there a feeling that it's a violation of pakistani sovereignty and this was the ultimate you believe. it is a go through which is a bad omen last about thirty five thousand people dead fighting america's. and as i said the country of last fall. in terms of what do you lost those then the gate given to us and the government was the figure to seventy billion dollars is going to be debated so this war isn't going to the supposed to be second phase of the us and they're not and i did not trust us and actually game and kill someone on our own soil it wasn't that the battle factors combined in the

sacrifice and secondly it is an error that we should be about your friend and enemy so forget about what the government on i'm dumping what the people of the country who do to know what was going on because it. was the it was being abused the way to get them or europe all by the way because of this either they were involved in goods but what about the people so good that there was a definitive in there was a very strong reaction born of the feeling of humiliation answer to think that you know that the us argue that someone bin laden is a terrorist responsible for the deaths of many americans so they have a right to go in and take him out what i'm saying is the. war on terror is the law is somehow the confusion is there to win the war on terror by bombs and . you know killing people actually want to have as one would win hearts and minds

of people if you lose the war this is that that is the where this is going to end i don't buy just one as well radicalized did that it was eight years back by this time in this little corner as it's a polarized society than it was here two years ago whatever we do military this is not a solution we have. we did it for eight years the americans if even for eleven years but what are we going to do now which is different and as i understand said madness is doing this if you go over and over again and expecting a different result it's not going to happen there's no military solution only ways political solution by just the bottom the political solution we do not have what it just means look you will all get a bit of both so you need elections a good bit of government hope for the osce we'll start a political dialogue help the americans in an exit strategy from a lot of start to see when we are out of those. we discovered

a cable in two thousand and nine from the islamabad embassy. prime minister of. interior minister mal ak went in to the embassy and. offered to share an address that is the voting record system for voters in pakistan and a front company was set up in the united kingdom international identity services which was hired as the consultants in that drawer to squirrel out. the. all of pakistan it's it seems to me that that is a theft of some national treasure of pakistan the entire pakistani database registry of its people. judy its

social well. you know never has a country's ruling elite for personal benefits never had to betray to people as my just as a leader and we show up and the government elite. not only have done as they have been just number of people who have disappeared by just. on suspicion of terrorism there will by stunning people from by just any sort of hand over to the americans on a business mission of of. them being involved in some terrorism and people have disappeared . people that it will need suspect stuff and limited to troop drawdowns and not only suspect their wives their children than it was a deliberate it never has it been any wording in what these people are innocent or not new country has ever been bombed by its own and not as we are being moments country as i said is the bullshit in full bit of my history never has

a country that willingly betrayed its people saw a light at the seventh ruling elite and buster benefits because all of their bank accounts across their money laying abroad and guess what the americans thought about guns they do believe on the sofa not from me how how would you reconfigure their pakistan relationship with the united states were going to be a complete severance but would you permit drone strikes what kind of intelligence cooperation but what would you do in practice. have a relationship based on the dignity self-respect. so it should be a relationship like the u.s. as with india it should not be a relationship with moscow and lucia tippett and even worse the bystanders a hired gun big bear to. kill americans and it is it's not it's

a licious at that as feed it's loaded over to the people above is someone who has it delivered to the americans the only thing that you that the americans should we do all is there are a lot of there will be a good there is a process but you can only do that if you lower the perceived to be a student of demands or you going to be a problem get and then deal with terrorists or at the moment the terrorists or the militants have declared jihad against bugs on government so that given your songs and on and on and up with these guys say that these are people out to something americans so the woman should get out of this war this jobs the will of the job goes we need then against our sifting through the end of me this is it within our borders and then only can we get into that it will be not generous and from us and so therefore number one step has to be pulled out as a lot more worried we become

a sovereign independent state and the relationship with the us should be of dignity and self-respect no longer of a. last relationship you know your you give a good description of how the war on terror in pakistan has been counterproductive it's created in the miti towards the pakistani government thirty five thousand to forty five thousand pakistanis have lost their lives why do you think the united states pursues. its agenda its during drone strikes in pakistan if if the us ambassador even is writing back saying that it's counterproductive what is the driving forces from the us. well julian i think it's because the the just like us the policy in us is being driven by a big dick and it's the this is the army people who are pro this close because only the military people always think of military solutions if you look at it here and

you listen to i think was a general magnum are of someone i just remember a lot of dough and him well they're all saying we're back and it's sixty's that we've done the gone a lot of the war of a few moments a few more moments and this would do the trick so the generals always think like that. one final question iran. have you met a.q. . and what do you think about the father of the pakistani nuclear bomb. i've made a clone of you know. there's a lot of pieces in the book a couple of years back but i'm going to for twenty years because he'd give the first edition to when i started building the gansa hospital he was the one going forward first of. here's a hero is is. here washington by the sun because by studies of the one it was

someone give us security in other words. the same reason given by the israelis that they needed the bomb because this owner. hostile neighbors is ascendant by the sun before she was with india which is seven times the size of my guest on and there's a lot of the security to look country and this is a guy who's supposed to have secured us so from their point of view his hero worship and likeness of what i think of him i don't really nor was he in war and this is a proliferation of most of the good ones of you why don't. you know by the americans and we share over the others and they do find themselves and see the logo ready to . give all evidence that i never was along those no i don't really know of the it budget on television that it was avoided but he said he was forced by oneself to do that so i do believe the truth behind it julian buzz only i managed

to do here i don't know diddly. for the world of it which has gotten you cured of the nuclear bombs. but at the moment as the where the situation is. people will i don't hear this ever since we've had white meter weapons even though there's been a lot of attention we've come across but there has been no war would be focused on india and before the nuclear weapon there were three wars so the people will i don't know from their point of view ok. thank you very much to you i wish you all the best because i think you. done a great thing what you did with it we could leave freedoms which is the was toward the end because we are ways to get control. by people with information this is a video of war and as i said i'm the biggest beneficiary there's going to be these blood seals would have just been during the mission like we would never and i just

. love coming to the bar august so do you think the let's thank you them are good luck. six zero. six six six such a. cool . cool the urn.