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all right it's time for show and tell on tonight's program last week we told you how carlos slim the richest man in the world suggests of the retirement age should be raised to seventy to reflect life expectancy rates but as you pointed out that isn't the case for many poor people they're not the ones that are living any longer so we want to know that if you thought the retirement age should be bumped up to seventy it's going to produce a pretty reason to send you to find out what you had to say. i'm in the streets of d.c. to tell people the nation's capital what our viewers had to say on twitter facebook and you tube and see which comments we should keep or delete.
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the richest person in the world carlos slim suggested raising the retirement age to seventy so we asked our viewers do you think that their time in a chat really be raised to seventy well tim wrote in to say retirement should be lowered to fifty three years old so you can enjoy what you have worked for and open up the job market to the next generation what do you think i would absolutely agree with that and especially as a young up and comer who is looking for the promotion opportunities we work hard our whole lives we should be able to retire we want to and sixty five rethinks a reasonable age i don't think it's going to. boost our economy that much to raise seventy michael wrote in to say no people may be living a bit longer but the quality of their lives haven't changed in that people still seem to be getting sick or injured or laid up around that time i agree with him i think that would be pushing it a little bit far for us do you think there are time when age should be seventy will scott wrote in to say seventy i'm sure they actually want to raise it until you're
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dead. but out is funny you know it's difficult people don't want to harp when she hit the sixty age bracket it's hard to even get employment you know so you know people don't want they want the younger generation working as seventy a person should be home relax and just enjoying life should be at work a seventy people think it's easier for the richest man in the world to tell everyone else to keep working it kind of makes you wonder how he would feel if he were one of the workers unloading trucks to keep his own empire running. all right thank you for your responses as usual and here's our next question for you so right now on the show we're going to speak about the environmental conference in rio twenty years after the original earth summit but this time around the agreement's already being criticized for a lack of clear details and commitments and so we want to know what you think but listen to the interview first but the question is why is the ability to commit to environmental protections changed and last twenty years let us know you think on
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facebook twitter and you too and who knows a response just might make it on air. all right so let's get to it you might not know it or you do now but currently the rio plus twenty conference is taking place and marks twenty years since the earth summit in one thousand nine hundred two more hope and optimism were in full force it took just days to negotiate an agreement that later would lead to the kyoto protocol this time around things are a little different world leaders like barack obama and the merkel and david cameron they won't be in attendance the global economy is in crisis is the top priority of the g twenty along with of course a lot of people in the middle east and the final draft release of the sustainability conference is already gotten its fair share of critique it's been presented tomorrow but word is that it's not going to contain any timetables definitions or ways to monitor new sustainable development goals and as the guardian wrote instead civil society groups say if the new tech simply acknowledges the world's dire environmental and social problems without spelling out how to deal with them to the environment on the back burner once again here to discuss it with
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me is chris mooney author of the recent book at the republican brain the science of why they deny science and reality and host of point of inquiry the point of entry podcast chris thanks for joining me tonight good to be here so i'm going to play devil's advocate right and you tell me why the global economy is slowing down right this even includes economies like china and india while you're the euro zone is in a crisis and so and while you have situations like syria you have posed for aleutian areas states like egypt where now there's a like environment why and how many people more than forty nine million people living in poverty here in the united states right the conditions are worse and they've been before why is the environment important why is this conference going on because right now people are worried about things like what's the yield on spain's bonds but in twenty years nobody's going to remember what the yield on spain's bonds is they're going to remember that we're about to pass for them for four hundred parts per million of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere right now and they will say why didn't you do something to stop it because that's exactly where
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we are now twenty years ago we're just past three fifty ok and that's going to unleash all kinds of environmental changes already gone and we're going to get to a point where we can't go back we may already be at that point. but so let me go back to this question that i want in our audience afterwards to answer to which is that you know have things really changed in twenty years well it wasn't just fresh and new and seemed like everybody could cooperate back then and now we've all just gotten too cynical or what it was a sort of the optimistic moment is this was just when the cold war ended and so you had all the nations world come together interestingly george herbert walker bush who was the republican president was like all pro environment were going to go to rio he led you know the u.s. delegation to get something done in rio and we set in motion the united nations framework convention on climate change which said you know we must prevent dangerous anthropogenic or human interference with the climate system we didn't prevent it twenty years later you know we've gone from about three fifty to about four hundred parts per million it's way too far you know scientists are saying we've got to be at three fifty ok so we didn't we didn't do anything it was
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a different time things have gotten more politicized and definitely economic issues are throwing the environmental issues off the agenda. and you know i think that a lot of you would say that at the moment that makes sense but right we have to think about the future and what's actually going to happen in the long term but so i mean you mention of course of george h.w. bush that was that was all for and these days we don't quite see the same response from especially republican lawmakers and a lot of the american public and you know so i want to talk more about this so we were speaking with chris hayes last night too that this idea that we have lost trust in so many of our institutions so many things out there that it seems that science has suffered the same fate fortunately right and why is that it's actually still more trusted than some of the institutions that people really hate i read chris's book it's a great book people think congress you know they think very lowly of it they hate the media scientists are a little better but conservatives have dramatically lost trust scientists and the scientists don't deserve it it's because conservatives have gotten really politicized around scientific issues like climate change there's
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a state of flat earth denial of climate change from the republican party that was not the case it was not nearly so monolithic in the time of george herbert walker bush his son george w. bush was always enunciated skepticism of global warming now mitt romney has flip flop toward a position of skepticism so they've been going in precisely the opposite direction from the science but in the way that there are you know things being passed i think it was north carolina or south carolina and i'm blanking on this right now or you can't even talk about the sea level rising and despite the information that's out there we're still going to legislate against it that just doesn't seem to make it he said no no don't think about it rationally you can't you have to think about it is this is the republican political identity today they're part of a team you know they support their side and they attack the other side and they do what they have to do to get to achieve political victory and they've decided that global warming is something phony that the environmentalists made up and so therefore they're going to resist it terms like sea level rise they believe those are left wing terms that you. see if you will rise over that's
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a little bit over the same way that i know has been turned into a dirty word fear level rises now is that i guess socialist. well right but so then what happens because as i said there's also a lot of criticism already towards the fact that there just aren't going to be any commitments that are actually set at these kinds of conferences is it going to be up to n.g.o.s and business is i mean are governments never going to be doing this well it's chaos down there if you look at all the different agendas they want isn't going to be she's something on oceans you know that that's part of the reason they can accomplish something is because this is sort of a problem with the message what's the message exactly you know they're trying to do a million things please a million groups and that's probably a very difficult thing to achieve anything i mean to me if i had to think of what the message should be it's something like look we can power this world differently you know we get enough energy from the sun in a minute to power the planet for years if you capture all this you can't capture it all but you can capture a lot of it we can do this you know we can get energy in
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a sustainable way and we don't need to subsidize fossil fuel companies and governments are subsidizing them to the tune of hundreds of billions right now and we're not subsidizing clean energy to nearly the same amount so we can make these changes that's what the message ought to be. that makes me right that i guess is just so much more fun to to be frank dictators and start wars based on trying to get oil out chris thanks so much for joining us tonight good to be here. also to come tonight there's a senate candidate in wisconsin who says that the sake of the media paying attention to poor people i'll tell you who it is natural tonight and coming up on happy hour find out who is heading to broadway right but. there hasn't been anything good on t.v. . it is to get the maximum political impact.
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i guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're giving it to the latest u.s. senate candidate to fall from the g.o.p. cookiecutter erekat is running for a scene wisconsin less guys took a page literally ripped out of the g.o.p. playbook just take a look at clips from his ads. i'm running for the u.s. senate right here in our great state of wisconsin why am i running because our economy is the man our federal reserve is our government central bank and the actions that they have been taking over the last few years i think are fundamentally wrong i'm not a curve politician nor my occur candidate i've spent the last twenty five years of my life in the private sector and. how i disguise romney's doppelganger something right the c.e.o. of how the private equity he echoes all the classic talking points hit on the bad
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lower taxes economic growth blah blah blah the usual so makes it clear the economy's in trouble and he says that he cares but he doesn't really seem to be bothered by those hurt the most which plays well for this candidate because he knows the financial sector like the back of his hand and he spouted off his wealth of knowledge forgive my pine at a recent press conference but he made a statement towards the end that really got my blood boiling as you or your i just wave your crazy vote. i just read you know stuff. going to you know your own chance or this or that. you know i saw something the other day just you know it's like a mother should have story and like the boat was into the home and the country's old it's going to devastate everybody. sob story is that like all they are to you that is like i said like a lot well guess what those people on food stamps would be your problem if you actually got elected mr happy that's how representation is supposed to work out to
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mention all the problems with three of the countries the program was eliminated the time like this it's a scary thought poverty rates are insane levels right now according to the national poverty center there are one point four six million people living on less than two dollars a day two point eight million kids who need food stamps to survive are those just sob stories to you talk about emerging from mitt romney's shadow and you've got to wonder why have these doesn't want journalists doing these important stories on food stamps i don't know maybe it's because the g.o.p. from mitt romney to rand paul are quietly waging a war against them just last week paul and rand paul and jeff sessions out of the men went into the farm bill the would cut food stamp funding either way erik's just caught up in this g.o.p. mentality right where real america revolves around wall street in the stock market because of his mindset those big banks are the center of the universe and all revolve saving business before you save people so i guess that in eric's world for people are merely just an inconvenience so maybe he would rather the media talk
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about these real sob stories. there's no one who wants this thing over more than i did you know i love my life but good to ask the three executives here to raise their hand if they flew here commercial let the record show no hands went up second going to ask you to raise your he and if you're planning to sell your jet in place now and fly back commercial. let the record show know he went up when i first learned that i was on his enemies list pretty worried me at first thought that you. and the patient was here i've been a target stripped of my back and. then the attacks started coming in the income flows to my personal tax return and whatever is left over after taxes are paid to feed my family on the one hand and on the other hand i reinvest in my business the amount that i have to reinvest in my business and feed my family is more like six
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hundred thousand. six point three million and so by the time i feed my family i have you know maybe four hundred thousand left over to invest in new locations. who spare a thought for these poor downtrodden executives that are worthy of the c.e.o.'s but seriously how these can moment just illustrates the disconnect right between the corporate elites and the rest of america even the political elites with sorry but i can't really feel sorry for these guys that are living the one percent lifestyle but hubby wants you to he doesn't see the average americans problem as the c.e.o.'s problem which it is he thinks that it's the other way around and so that's how these game plan he's pandering to c.e.o.'s the big banks the people who are trying to perpetuate the policies the plunge our country into crisis in the first place and on top of that he's trying to dismiss the result of those problems as a sob story and basically admitting on camera again that he isn't care about poor people so for that erick of the might not even win the republican primary but he is
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most definitely the winner of tonight's two all time award. ok at a dive for happy hour and to anything that the evening r.t. web producer andrew blake and mike riggs associate editor at. c.n.n. reason dot com gentlemen thank you for joining me alone i can't wait to hear what you think about this latest story now normally when we hear about people not being allowed on flights these days it's because they are on the no fly list right somebody thought they look like a terrorist but they were actually that too fat another one but now cleavage apparently is allowed to either take a look at this. false self was there one screwed up again this is what all the told was wearing when she was told to get off of white from los vegas to new york she
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says she was told she wouldn't be allowed to board the plane like that because her cleavage was inappropriate. i'm going to pour in question for you if i'm ready i've bothered to all. had looks like you know playboy playmate would anyone have told her to that's a very cleavage away this is not about her having. course but. to their discriminating again i do i think there's just made some joker at southwest airlines working at the gate uncomfortable i think that's all it is i seriously doubt it's a company policy and i bet you like five minutes after that person said maybe five minutes maybe thirty minutes after at some point that person would realize like i should not have done i should not have done you know. i hope so i hope where i come from we get one day every day. just your father in the clear whether it's you know you slip shoes. spill something you get one lump sum as you would you would you
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have let i've been telling your plane yeah absolutely that joker who we stole that video from though that guy no i would put in the luggage compartment and crash the plane right into the ground i don't know where you found that video but the guys. are the worst. of it and i think you found the video. it's. ok for. a shiny when i get a wave everyone else was a lot of this next story so. again i want to get your take on whether you think point addiction actually exists next but but this is something that apparently more people are suffering from these days here's a little video a little how to can tell if you are addicted to porn if you feel you might be struggling with pornography addiction it's a good idea to ask yourself some of the following questions do you feel consumed they're overwhelmed by the idea of seeing pornography has pornography affected your life in a way that you are now looking at pornography in inappropriate places such as in
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public settings public libraries coffee shops during work. i mean is looking for in the library really that big a deal remember when yeah and i don't new york anyway let's get back to the story at hand here which is that now another distribution post there's an academy. in utah which is dedicated to teenage boys who have it's good some are calling it porn school and so you're aged between thirteen and seventeen and your parents pay nine thousand dollars a month. it's just seems ridiculous to me when i did and i'm going to. play according to all the male coworkers on my team they said you know if you're not looking at porn all the time as a teenage boy and there's something wrong with that yes absolutely and i you know i can't speak for many other teenage boys i personally had some sort of addiction to literary erotica as a young man but you know i overcame that and i didn't i i didn't spend nine thousand dollars a month getting over it but you know and again mormons like to have their first
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direction until marriage so it's not shocking that this is coming out of you know but so can you be a teenage boy who the day to can you can you hold on that question i mean are they going to school or are they getting good grades you know they're going to point can't go back go back up back up back up think up. session you know it all i know only what i really believe. you were there for the first teenage boys kind of stuff know my i you know i'm on the reader want to watch it really like to vandalize in your head yeah i like flowery playboy you went for it right there i mean it escalated it was like going from like cigarettes to heroin or something going from drugstore romance novel straight up to. mother's diary but you know it was like really crazy stuff correct me if i'm wrong though aren't those drugs or romance. or sort of are they intended for like housewives and not for teenage boys right yeah you know they are the you read the same stuff there's no way they're going to have yes basically. but yeah it's like
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a remnant of women having to like secretly experience thomas sexual pleasure but yes that's what drugs are around this novels are for and i missed what ever awkward experience you get is that you know that there are really good stories of not good but you have something to say about this i think where we go also stories don't yeah hopefully our t.v. but let's say this is going to that's going to take place after the show. next story which is. when my favorite topics the audiences heard me talk about taco bell a lot and you know lately they've been really pimping their new products. taco bell has turned real now to choose to read the show was free it should use those locos tacos completely surprising yet somehow never only its october. ok i love talk about i'd love to read it but i found this a little underwhelming and i just didn't have enough to read all flavor and now
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they're announcing though and i don't know i have more hope for this that there's going to be a cool ranch flavored taco let me tell you something march eighth two thousand and twelve twelve. locos tacos came on came on the market you know where i was i was in line i was waiting and you know what i'll tell you exactly when to be when the court comes how i. was discussing i had like. yeah yeah i've been going over the bar you and me are used to write words with familiar names i've been over the poverty line for like four years now interviews you talk about i don't really have anything out of this conversation by the jacket at say otherwise. and i decided to indra thank you i think you look very sharp i think we're going to. grab the room and all right but yeah you know i wasn't really just a guy. that's ok you can hate having a stroke you can you know you want to try that was out of masturbation you know and i'm not sorry ok go what do you tell your control of the situation all right now
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time there was. a talk about this new thing i think this comes from the pew research center. and we'll talk about a shift that's happening in the united states obviously we know that already white babies are in the minority right this year when that started but danger i wonder how the right wing is going to take this one when it comes to hispanics versus asian immigrants. asian immigrants are now the largest group of new immigrants in the united states those are the results of a new pew research survey beginning in two thousand and nine and into two thousand and ten asian immigrants surpassed hispanic immigrants in the united states. is that i mean of do you think that he was going to perceive this in some crazy way . how are we going to go let's what i know my dear david you know like the anti immigrant narrative thus far which shows it hasn't been right wingers i mean up until two thousand and six labor unions hated the low low wage and low skilled
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immigrants and i think now we're going to see people attacking like they're taking all our smart people jobs that's right and they have it's going to they are. going to start with the loser you know you stereotype we know the southeast asian countries test higher in mathematics and science then they produce more engineers like they produce more engineers like millions more engineers than we do so yeah i totally see it coming i think it's going to be healthy mentally but yes i think that's kind of scaremongering organs i can't even begin to think what kind of scaremongering we will see but i can with a guy actually know this news came out last night or this morning and i was actually just waiting waiting for you know some sort of right wing slant to make this seem like you know the end of the world really seems that yes no it's good it's coming i know that it may or may sound where it's not it might not i mean i know it'll do you when you say you conservatives like suggest immigration reform is one of the things you talk about streamlining the high skilled visas for skilled
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workers you know so the assumption being that it will get fewer of them except that they have farther to travel i don't know they have to it's a longer plane ride i don't know what are you want to do you need if you're literature that's like a whole different you know. that you have a. field worker oh yeah yeah yeah which is that's what that's what people here can say that not all of them will be engineers because some of them are giving me pedicures. you know and they're good at it yeah i do yeah i do every two weeks i think about it or not yeah i know it was i hear these myself when i get around but is it a message over yours or my money makers this show is over thank you for joining me back there friday night's show thanks for tuning in and come back tomorrow when greg social commentator for man of the three feet out card is going to be joining us on happy hour and meantime don't forget to like a lot of show on facebook to follow us on twitter subscribe to our you tube channel and you can check us out on hulu coming up next is the new.
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