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origins my next guest imran khan became a household name as captain of pakistan's victorious cricket team he then left sports and launched his movement for justice party in the most dangerous political environment on a. four years can anti corruption party was ignored in two thousand and seven us state department cables referred to him as pakistan's one man party. but pakistan is changing. over the last two years widespread anger over u.s. drone strikes and corrupt political dynasties has proven millions to his cause i want to know why is he now front runner to be the next leader of pakistan. hi julian. i'm all right i have a bit of a cold but i think that's a good thing because my voice is a bit sexier than normal and i have to go basically. just to sit

with you everybody just well i think your interesting time is a bit more interesting than my interesting time i saw these videos of your rallies last night so i think this is great but i worry you're going to get blowed up so there's a. so i hope your interesting time doesn't get any more into the spin judy we're going to go sometime yeah the second of those are some of them just. like i mean i was you know when i saw this guy's hospital sized to see. you going in six months later they were gone so i have a completely different attitude to life and you're not around for long so you might as well make the most of it. you don't realize it back to. the wiki leaks mid not just. let me let me pour you a rare go broken up for some reason where we're just lost you for a minute like

a you're you're back again. back to middle of the world but by the sun the with the explosive all of these two faces one additions you know who was sucking up to the marriage in the same. drive and telling them how great they were. you know sucking up to them and public giving completely opposite stage it was a rare especially this one really just this guy. who was declaring leads this religious logic and he literally doing the medic and he said look if you back me to become the prime minister i would never want to do. and he's considered the most anti american politician so he was it was a. it really exposed a lot of people who. saw him run can you describe what what are the big power factions in pakistan is the i.s.i. the army is the supreme court the old families how would you describe the basic

power structure of pakistan. well the babyland by just done just like in the middle east is above a statistical and trans-jordan status for what you call the boss structure benefitted from the system and the majority of the population want to change it so what do you see in the middle east his exact numbers but as the west looks upon muslim societies and there's some war going on within fundamentalist and liberals islam fundamentalists their brothers actually and this is really the divided up in the muslim world which is why everyone looks surprised by the arab spring and by is the one with the following i have been are is the sin by the same people who are going to go to the middle east people want to get james and just it just for the now what does this do just one focused on with the political mafia else all of the political parties have not got it together against me so they have sort of the this

is a desert this is a group of them got this is a good sign is that iran if people are gathering around to oppose you very very must be scared. oh maybe five because the last time by the sun we saw red is as big as the doing to god one. a lot and one was forty years ago was the goal you would do the five don't be uneasy and when that these sort of the numbers don't know you swept the election he just went and he was an underdog and the statistical bodies. so that's what we're going to skid we researched the wiki leaks cables from islamabad to see what they said about you and in two thousand and seven the us ambassador said. who's p.t.i. party is effectively a one man show has little to lose his credibility rests in he so created role as

a politician he sticks to his principles and he's popular with the pakistani intelligence here and elements of diaspora but has never been able to turn his starring role as captain of pakistan's only team to really win the international cricket championship into an effective political party that's obviously changed now what's happened in the last few months with julian what happened was the. media. from hostile fire on words we suddenly had. this ration of independent deliberation jones. the most. the most watched programs begin to fear programs so the just if you watch the television it's like having read jeremy bash one i don't give you you have. these these guys have become women moves like jury votes and you will

have one on the mean one of all the journals and. where you would for instance have a big brother in england or some sort of grew up here don't even want to watch or interfere programs. such as the desire. to understand the political situation of people such as the interest that they are diamond they have the highest viewership it's a what's happened in the past six months i mean there's really been a tremendous rise the opinion polls by bread have your popular support had something between sixty to eighty percent. of the pakistani population perhaps you can describe this. how your party has grown in size and momentum and what's it like in the for you try to manage this incredibly fast growing organization was full of what sort of elections in two thousand and eight. because

you know these elect the elections bug manipulated by the bush administration big group to deal between with cher and businesses but all of the corruption cases work and not only the other politicians they were given an amnesty by a shell and this was the deal brokered by the americans and it was the end not all nationally can see this ordinance so in the middle of reading solution the americans got it was shut up and been as you together and got all these are a house in the latest book drive with due dates above that whole bush get we're about on the back when she got them together and sort of. sort of so. and along with a lot of the by just boycotting the election. because we've for the supposedly boring. for a while wake up and go on because we've stood up and actions and then as the

governments begin to mess up because once the good riddance. corruption broke all records and biased nasty because when you have a lot of big government of like us and such as the way it was doug remembering that i want everyone to know is what got in the election that this election is a disease it's going to be a disaster for the people of bias the one it's only meant for the bush administration to have one removed one was sure it was struggling so you would like to go they wanted another puppet government so they could pursue this war on terror without a lot of them was bombing on europe and still so whatever i was saying and went through the roof the war on terror was has been devastated by this all of because for two thousand and one despite his have been killed in a war we have nothing to do we're up busy our own army killing on eleven and then

get it then doing suicide notes on the box that is evidence and they can be done again at the cost of seventy billion dollars of this war totally it has been less than twenty billion so all i was able on these things and secondly was. it just resonated with the beeb and almost two years ago my got grass started going up as though says the big bad and the whole lot of people see this james. we are seeing our politicians rushing to me so people who are electable is realizing that the war banner not belongs to me that i don't have to do and i heard that even even musharaff tried to say to you. you you pm me president. well there you see bush or. does not understand what's happening in pakistan because he's outside is all you know politics is on the face

book he doesn't realize that on the ground and by just on the situation is is completely different number one he'll be the biggest liability to get i liked but number two he's responsible for the mess he's responsible for this is a record corruption because he's the one to give them amnesty the good of the good of the new order in the world of goodness given amnesty and that i can just elections again and get into my own and secondly this war on terror so he's responsible if you look at say the soviet union which also had a lot of corruption but people said well that. well at least the black market is a market. so you're going to have some kind of trading it helps you get around regulations which are impeding business. what is the problem with corruption in pakistan why is why is corruption bad for pakistan just to give you know the statistics then you're not going to i am history of sixty years the total debt if

you will lead to by bikes don is about five trillion in just four years the debt has gone up from the problem by closer to. we had. already. due to service our debts so if out of one point eight trillion. debt servicing is eight hundred billion harvard goes to debt service and six hundred billion goes to before the army how do they leave the million people who have two hundred million to be used as a liberal so clearly the ganges and wind so that in itself russia could still go on and gives a fuck. we're looking at the atlas we're looking at. us going down the drain the country is heading towards complete chaos we don't have money to don't run the country and at the moment you are shouting we don't have

money to buy and you do. not buy our generation so because you get a lot of buy food for a barge initial of the government are there's almost fourteen hours notice you did there's no electricity for fourteen hours a day. and and the corruption in pakistan the tax evasion is one thing but the the stealing of money from the treasury how much of that ends up back in pakistan i just taking from the poor the middle class and transferring it to the rich in pakistan versus how much of the money is taken out of pakistan and stashed into london banks or stashed into swiss banks or u.s. companies. so two things number one because we do not have a minute before to get finest oil for our generation the country is having load

shedding this electricity for fourteen to fifteen hours and indeed eighteen hours in the rural areas. that would mean the farmers don't run they're. the do birds to water their crops that means factories and industries are closing down there because there's massive unemployment on top of inflation so that's one aspect of corruption the second is that it was sort of this money ends up and this was a chance of. almost. all of the political leader in the middest money are excited by this done and i have everything in by you stand in mine and apart from more particularly this head of political bodies there have banned guns abroad their property is abroad and this is not declared so of this money most of this money ends up of the country but let's move on to the u.s. . tell me about this assassination of osama bin laden in

pakistan what was the feeling in pakistan that the i.s.i. was hiding this hour bin lot of that there in confident why. was a solid bin laden in pakistan and you know what you must understand is that some of been not there was trained by the i.s.i. and cia. did warlow gather wood green by the unit the cia and i.s.i. about twenty years back so this is this is these people were assets of the biased on on. their would really by the bogus and i mean the i.s.i. financed by this yeah but they were fighting the soviets and for a long time these groups had big association with the most unsecured agencies now suddenly comes no new level and you do under the leading degrees does i mean we shadowed us at hundley to be stolen. but it didn't mean that all along the way

people would have accepted this because here what people are trained for jihad our job and this is in this just means by doing the foreign occupation so our people who can miss them having indoctrinating not only. these militant groups but also your need and sees that they're fighting a war and occupation is it is a religious duty a right some subset of the i.s.i. some people perhaps who are dealt with in the past who are still loyal as goes people who would have thought that if i do another foreign occupation which is not the worst it's also religious duty of course if it's possible as it is there a feeling that the u.s. is helping our clean out militants in pakistan or is there a feeling that it's a violation of pakistani sovereignty and this was the under which you believe. it was a gun free which was a bad omen last about thirty five thousand people dead fighting america's war.

and as i said the country of lost. in terms of what do you lost was then the gate given to us and the government was the figure to seventy billion dollars is going to billion so this war isn't going to the supposed to be second posing for the worse and they're not and i did not trust us and actually game and kill someone on our own soil it wasn't that at all factors combine in the sacrifice and secondly it isn't and i would love you for it and so look forget about all of the government on i'm done with the people of the country who didn't know what was going on because it. was the it was being abused the way to get them or all by the way because of this either they were involved in goods but what about the people so that there was if anything there was

a very strong reaction born of the feeling of humiliation answer to think that you know that the us argue that someone bin laden is a terrorist responsible for the deaths of many americans so they have a right to go in and take him out what i'm saying is the. war on terror is the law is somewhat hard the confusion is there to win the war on terror by bombs and. you know killing people actually want to has one when you win hearts and minds of people if you lose the war this is that that is the where this is going to end i don't buy just one as war radicalised did that it was eight years back by this time in this little corner as to it's a pull or a society that it was here two years ago whatever we do military this is not a solution we have. for eight years the americans if even for eleven years.

what are we going to do now which is different and as i understand said madness is doing this if you go over and over again and expecting a different result it's not going to happen there's no military solution only ways political solution by just bottom the political solution we do not have one occasion to look at the law get a bit of both so you need elections go to build a government of hope for the osce we'll start a political dialogue help the americans in an exit strategy from the i'm starting to see when we are out of those. we discovered a cable in two thousand and nine from the islamabad. embassy. prime minister of. interior minister mal ak went into the embassy and. offered to share an address that is the voting record system for voters in pakistan and

a front company was set up in the united kingdom international identity services which was hired as the consultant in that drawer to squirrel out. the. all of pakistan its it seems to me that is a theft of some national treasure of pakistan the entire pakistani database registry office people. judy it's so shameful. you know never has a country's ruling elite for personal benefits never had to betray to people as much as this elite and it was shut up and the government elite. not only have done as they have been just some people who have disappeared by. on suspicion of terrorism there were biased i mean these people from by just any sort

of handle would do the americans on this mission of of of them being involved in some terrorist and people have disappeared. people that eliminated suspects stuff and limited to troop drawdowns. and not only suspects their wives the children it was a different age it never has it been any wording in what these people are innocent or not new country has ever been it's one and out as we are being moments country as i said is the bullshit bit of my history never has a country that willingly betrayed its people saw the light at the start intruding elite and subversive benefits because all of their bank accounts abroad their money laying abroad and guess what the americans go on about guns they do believe on the sofa not from me how how would you reconfigure their pakistan relationship with the

united states were going to be a complete severance what would you commit drone strikes what kind of intelligence cooperation what would you do in practice. have a relationship based on the dignity of the suspect. so it should be a relationship like the u.s. as with india it should not be a relationship with blair must relationship to anyone who was there but instead as a hired gun big bill to. kill americans in the news it's not considered lish is it that is feed it's no delivered to the people above is done nor has it delivered to the americans the only thing that the americans should be doorless the lot of there will be blood there is a promise but you can only do that if you lower the perceived to be a student of the americans only going to be a problem get and then deal with terrorists or add on the generous of the militants

have declared jihad against bugs on government so they're given a song as an a and r. and up with these guys say that this is a pull out of something americans so the woman should get out of this war this jobs the will of the job goes we need then against our sifting through the end of me this is it within our borders and then only can be gotten to that it will be don't tell us and from our side so there's one number one step has to be pulled out as a lot more worried we become a sovereign independent state and the relationship with the us should be of dignity and self-respect no longer the. last relationship you know your you give a good description of how the war on terror in pakistan has been counterproductive it's created in the miti towards the pakistani government thirty five thousand to forty five thousand pakistanis have lost their lives why do you think the united

states pursues. its agenda its during drone strikes in pakistan if if the us ambassador even is writing back saying that it's counterproductive what is the driving forces from the us. well julian i think it's because the the just like us the policy in us is being driven by a budget and it's the it's the army would grow this blows because the lead military people always think of military solutions if you look at it here and you listen to i think it was a general magnum r r r i just remember a lot of dough i mean who was there also saying we're back in that sixty's that we've done the corner we're about to win the war of a few moments a few more moments and this would do the trick so the generals always think like that. one final question iran. have you met a.q.

. and what do you think about the father of the pakistani nuclear bomb. i've made a clone of you know. there's a lot of pieces in the book of a couple of years back but i'm going to the twenty years because he'd give the first edition to when i started billing against the hospital he was the one going forward first of. here's a hero is is. here washington biased on because if i was the news of the morning was someone would give us security in other words. the same reason given by the israelis that they needed the bomb because this owner. hostile neighbors is ascendant by the sun before she was with india which is seven times the size of my guest on and there's a lot of the security of the country and this is a guy who's supposed to have secured us so from their point of view he's here

watching and like most of what i think of him i don't really nor was he in war and this is a proliferation of the good ones of you why don't. you know by the americans and we share over the others and they do find themselves and see the logo ready to. give all evidence that i never was along those no i didn't really know of the it budget on television that it was avoided but he said he was forced by oneself to do that so i do really believe the truth behind it julian buzz only i am and you hear i don't know diddly. for the world of it which has gotten you cured of the nuclear bombs. but at the moment is the where the situation is. people are going on here this ever since we've had quite a bit of weapons even though there's been a lot of attention we've come across but there has been no war would be focused on india and before the nuclear weapon there were three wars so will people will argue

from that point of view ok. thank you very much to i wish you all the best because i think you. what you did with that we could leave freedom of information is the moves toward because we are basically. by people who are going to wish. this is a video and i said i'm the biggest beneficiary there's going to be these look seals would have just been through the mission. like we would never have i just. love coming to the bar so do you think the let's thank you them or good luck. cut cut. cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut.

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