why don't what's really happening to the global economy with mike's cancer or a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause a report. today on our team a last ditch effort to avoid extradition wiki leaks founder julian assange is in a standoff with british authorities i could wear as embassy is the only thing standing in the way of his departure to sweden we'll bring you a live update from london straight ahead. and while the songs fights extradition from inside ecuador's embassy his mother is also seeking outside governments to get involved we'll bring you an exclusive interview with christina songs. plus they're fighting computer hacking from within no longer on the defense major companies are taking cyber security into their own hands to stop sophisticated attacks even recruiting former hackers to help coming up we'll speak to one of the most famous hackers turned contractor.

one day june twentieth four pm in washington d.c. i'm abby martin you're watching our team after britain's supreme court rejected julian assange just final appeal against rape accusations in sweden he's now seeking political asylum in the ecuador some imus in britain has remained inside the embassy for two days which is a relatively short amount of time considering other asylum cases we've seen worldwide over the years. here's a look at some top asylum cases from around the world the longest asylum case took place during hungary's communist regime roman catholic cardinal you'll have been senti lived inside the u.s. embassy in budapest from one thousand nine hundred fifty six until one thousand nine hundred seventy one he was eventually allowed to leave budapest for vienna fast forward to nine hundred eighty an economic crisis sent tens of thousands of cubans attempting to flee the country but being stopped before they could leave six

cubans including group leader and use these took matters into their own hands and crashed a bus through the peruvian embassy gates and ivana seeking asylum as a result fidel castro then opened the port of money and one hundred twenty five thousand cubans left the country in a chaotic exodus by boats then in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine not a jaeger then military governor of panama sought refuge at the apostol like none could hear the vatican's embassy after being overthrown by the u.s. noriega remained held up for ten days he surrendered after being assured he would not face the death penalty but that wasn't the case for former afghanistan president analogy boola a case of defacto asylum he sought help from the un after resigning power in one thousand nine hundred ninety two and actually lived in its headquarters in kabul until one thousand nine hundred six however the story ends tragically for najibullah in one thousand nine hundred six he was castrated by the taliban and was

dragged behind a truck in the streets of kabul and then publicly hanged on a light post most recently there was the case of the blind chinese dissident chen guangcheng he escaped house arrest in his village and sought refuge at the u.s. embassy in beijing he left after six days and was later allowed to go to new york with his wife and two children. so how long will drilling the songs remain inside the ecuador embassy and will he be given safe passage to ecuador for coverage on the ground in london or to correspondent laura smith joins us now to give us an update on the situation thanks so much for joining us laura could you give us an update on what's going on right now. well in the building behind me which is the ecuadorian embassy here in london julian assange which is in there somewhere to be fooled by the sort of luxury nature of the building i'm sure it's very nice inside but the ecuadorian embassy itself is very small so the ecuadorian ambassador's unlikely said what julian assange has to stay for any length of time having said

that we haven't seen any decision made today he is in a tricky situation really as long as he remains inside the ecuadorian and to see the police until out to go in and get him the british police can only enter the territory open embassy with specific permission from the ambassador can see so that he remains inside he's ok but the moment he steps outside the door actually regardless of whether he's being a grant a granted asylum in ecuador the police could arrest him so that is a bit of a tricky situation really so it's quite cramped in that what's been going on today is a series of meetings and discussions we had towards the end of the day a statement a bit of a noncommittal statement really by the ecuadorian ambassador who talked about the ecuadorian tradition of supporting human rights on the one hand but she also says that that they had no intention of interfering with the legal processes of sweden or the u.k. and she said that she was looking for a just and fair solution so that's where it stands at the moment or what do you

think is going to happen if ecuador decides to grant him asylum. i mean not that's not clear i mean what i what i suspect would happen is that the ecuadorian embassy would try to get him from head to the airport they can issue a warrant to have safe passage for him but as i say as far as i know the police on bound to states about to the moment he leaves the embassy he is liable for arrest because of course he by doing this he has breached the terms of his bail he's supposed to stay the night at the address where he's registered and of course the ecuadorian embassy is not the address where he's registered say that for he has broken these conditions which puts him in another awkward situation because a lot of his friends and celebrities including the socialite should my mccollum the journalist john pilger they posted a large amount of bail for him because he's broken those conditions that now looks like they might use that money to this wedding to be an easy decision for julian

assange is to have made. why do you think you chose a door or an embassy laura. well i'm sure he thought very carefully about which country he might go to we know here on our t.v. that he has developed over the last few months a good relationship with the president of ecuador president rafael correia and in fact we his sources saying that it's possible that while he was recording his interview with president career for his interview program which is running at the moment on our t.v. he may have office president career off whether he might consider giving him asylum so what we're seeing now could be a sort of end game in a process that's been going on for some months president correia is a very socialist leaning man he's he's displayed a certain amount of sympathy for julian assange in the past and one might assume that he has had some kind of signal from ecuador that they might be prepared to

consider it. what is the scene been like since since he took asylum in the ecuadorian embassy have there been a lot of supporters on the streets have there been kind of contradictory groups of people rallying tell us a little bit about the. at there have been supporters i mean it has to be said that since this process started eighteen months ago the number of forces that has on the street in the u.k. has dwindled right at the beginning of this process we regularly saw one hundred one hundred fifty people turn out to support him his cool herring's but through the months and i'm not sure why that is i don't think it's because sympathy for him has to admit i think it's just because people knew that this is going to be a very long process and people have jolts and they have to go to them so they can't always be dropping everything to turn out to support him but you can see behind me i hope the remnants of today's supporters that have been a few people here today with black cards and banas reaching three g. and a song you can see them behind me to shoot the messenger that kind of thing so

these on the whole it's cool and i can see that they have equipment that suggests they might even be staying the night say they're not going anywhere really interesting to see this unfold the things that are going out there and one more question laura what do you you know we can only speculate at this point but what would happen if he does is granted safe passage to ecuador would he have to stay there the rest of his life or be subject to arrest if you leave the country. it's a difficult one i mean i'm assuming that the initial plan certainly would be for him to stay there until he can get some kind of legal situation sorted out but of course it is rather bizarre because we do know that ecuador does have an extradition treaty with the u.s. and the reason that it's applied for asylum in the first place is because he thinks that if he goes to sweden to face the questioning on these allegations of sexual assault then as soon as that case is cleared up he will be then extradited to the u.s. he says that the u.s.

is the place where the death penalty is still in force he says that he's seen evidence that the u.s. is already preparing a case against him on the for espionage that that is the thing that he wants to avoid the most but it seems that geographically at least if he did do it he'd be getting closer to that having said that president carette the current ecuadorian president doesn't have a very easy relationship with the u.s. so it's unlikely that he would he would like to see ourselves go and of course he must have thought about that but he must also have thought that he was running out of options he said on wednesday that he felt that the u.k. sweden and his own country australia had abandoned him so he has to find a fourth place thanks so much for being out there and providing on the ground coverage right from the embassy we're joined a song that is thanks so much that was our to correspondent laura smith. now julius on his mother has come out and for support of her son's decision to seek asylum in ecuador she stated that she hopes that quote the third world could stand up for

what's morally right in the first world cannot because of they got their snouts in the trough of us greed and big business artie's marina da she has the chance to question her mother about his mother about her son decision and is it too early to take such a drastic step as nathan being questioned despite asking a swedish government to do so says the last to use continues to coast to even a flagrant pieces of these human and legal ruts in the swedish case the to use. their refusal to adhesive police procedures as their own prosecutorial standards set to go to sleep in place he would be child treasurer why on charge non-christian he would not have the opportunity then to seek political asylum. well you know ecuador has an extradition treaty with the united states so even if the lead american state gives him the green light and shelters your son he's saying

he's going to be hundred percent safe there. ekotto i believe does have a an extradition treaty that if it's. a timed calista guy sion that the person seeking saw to follow him is actually a political prisoner not the ny judge and that prisoner i thought now this is something that all nations have signed up and then you notions of signed up to but a lot of them out actually acting upon a code in the u.k. i should have turned down that europe interest was coming from sweden because doing had mike in so very much available for questioning sweden and unlock our borders not to the mind stray mady and our own attorney general is trying to the public. he could not get the swades to. actually question him on the second on the right allegation was rise this vote was cost by the. time it was rise was also in twenty

four hours of a with the chief prosecutor of the current woman is governor you said she'd been relegated and refused to interview and son has died when it was then resurrected within ten dies by a politician lawyer running for the election and woman i am who is also running for the election she submitted a condom which she said to him his tone but on the pony this guy shouldn't dogs brings the department it was not a and i didn't it was detailed to radical feminist prosecutors i shopped around to less than a month and the prosecutor upheld the a pale in doing was not even told about the hearing and so these abuses of his human rights and they collide with in sweden went on and on on and. that was christina sunfish mother of julian assange speaking with r.t. correspondent marina da she. is still ahead on our team in the cyber world like in nature there are predators and their prey several big companies are sick of having

their information devoured and are now hunting for the hackers coming up we'll tell you how these companies are using hackers own tools and people against them. the climate of american power continues. things are so bad. might actually be time revolution. and it turns out that a killer drink at starbucks has a surprising him really here. r g is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.

russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to u.s. . carriers. but in the alone or so we'll get the real headlines with none of them or see the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and from what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . hackers going to hack but now companies are taking preemptive measures to fight back it's called strike back technology and the purpose is to distract or delay hacking attempts instead of trying to prevent them companies are now in the office

to lure cyber criminals into their systems and in some cases they're hiring contractors to hack to find their security breaches kevin mitnick once known as america's most wanted hacker. went five years in a federal prison and is now working for the other side joining me now is kevin mitnick himself who's the author of ghost in the wires and information security consultant thanks for joining me kevin i want to you know a lot of thanks i want to go to law break more on the strategy that these companies are and issued into the war hackers what is this that methodology well this is a technology called honeypots and it's been around for quite some time and this is where companies either acquire or they build systems that appear to be the whole juicy information to attract the to attract the attackers and that that way they could monitor and kind of profile how they're getting into this is to try to identify where they're coming from and this is been around for for quite some time

kevin how did you go from being the one you know once known as the most wanted hacker and the country to working for the other side well after i was arrested and i was in prison for quite some time is that in pretrial detention for about four and a half years and i finally finally settled the case with the government ended up doing five years in federal custody for hacking it wasn't for profit it was mostly for intellectual challenge and about three months after i was released senator fred thompson called me to testify for congress on how the federal government can better protect their systems and at that point i was kind of my transition into now helping government private sector companies and universities protect themselves against the threats out there so you were released early in order to help companies and the government you were and you served your term and then afterward kind of got recruited. yeah there pretty

a pretty much my case is you know very unusual i what i sat in solitary confinement in a federal detention center for about a year because a federal prosecutor told the judge that i could simply pick up the phone dial of to norad and whistle into the phone communicate with their modem that's connected to their computer and launch a nuclear missile so there was a lot of hyperbole around my case and i sat in pretrial detention for a long time but what's great today is i still do the same thing i'm still going to systems but i do it with the company's permission to help them find the vulnerabilities before the attackers do so it's very enjoyable it's kind of like how blow escobar becoming a pharmacist and. kevin. just said that you were in solitary confinement based on an absurd notion that you could call and want a nuclear bomb what was that even warranted i mean and what was your experience in solitary confinement like what about do you. well back then this is you know quite

some time ago computers were still mystical happy years were still mystical and and so a lot of events in motion pictures like war games in sneakers what happened is unfortunately governor government prosecutors took events out of fictional movies and attributed them to me in real life and sitting in solitary confinement matching going into your bathroom at home and being a late being able to leave one hour a day for five days a week it's a pretty horrific experience especially when you're in there for some mythology. but i mean look at that all behind me and i really enjoy a still you know enjoy being able to hack but being able to help companies really protect themselves and that's kind of my mission today is really to help in one of them at that you know and as we mentioned as you mentioned on the show earlier this whole notion of companies being upset and you know obviously you know because they are continuing to be victimized by attackers that there's trying to set up systems

that lou are the bad guy. to this but he's sometimes you know one of the words to a honey pot we're pretty. we're able to quickly figure out what's going on but this whole honey pot it's you know it's kind of like you know attracting the bad guys to this system to really. keep them busy you know there's state files in there that look look look like valuable information it could be credit card bank accounts it could be are indeed information or whatever the company sets up if you keep the attackers there you profile them you see where they're coming from and then you use that information that intelligence to protect your your core systems the real the real systems that you don't do not want anyone kevin i wanted to get more into your personal story you were on the colbert report last year and i want to play a quick clip from that ok what do you think what is it if if if you did what you

did today would i i'm sure you would put and put in solitary but when tom and obey what time of day you think that probably i mean they now that in this post nine eleven world i think hacking is almost considered a form of terrorism so kevin that statement holds so much more significance now here we are you know almost a year later after the whole anonymous thing coming out and just these takedowns of government websites and also just the ratcheting up of cyber terrorism and fair monitoring from our government do you see hacking still as maybe the number one domestic terrorist threat or or do you see that as kind of the fear of them painting it as a new terrorist threat. well i look at it it's kind of you know a lot of a lot of hyperbole because when you paint a threat the government is able to pass laws and get you know votes by the house and by congress to pass these laws like the patriot act but you know we're the real

the really interesting i guess development if you will over the past year or so was the revelation of stuxnet inflate and these were cyber weapons developed by the united states and possibly israel to attack iranian nuclear facilities so basically cause disruption to cause delay. of whatever projects they were working on at the time so i think this is this is really important because why the united states could use cyber weapons against countries like iran that you know we still get we could be victimized the same way other countries can victimize us by developing very. delicious code. goes under the radar of anti-virus software and infects our systems targets companies here to do industrial espionage or targets defense contractors to get information on. you know government projects so i think it's a i think it's

a substantial threat and what this what the i guess security industry needs to do is come up with a better tools and solutions to try to mitigate that the right so you don't think. that answer to combat this kind of threat but i can repeat that you're going to ask and do you think that the legislation that they proposed. do you think that that's a good combatant to this threat. i actually didn't read the legislation so i'm sorry i can't answer that i apologize no problem it's pretty broad legislation but kevin going back to what you just said about the cyber weapons what do you think about the u.s. essentially creating a blueprint for cyber warfare against this country what do you think that's going to do but i don't think it's really a blueprint i think. i think that any country would employ a well. a well it's well a well skilled. team of developers to develop militias coat i don't

you know i really think it comes down to time money and organization and so i think any country and even even the russian business network. allegedly develops melt where to attack consumers to steal information for fraud i think again it all really comes down to the money into the sophistication of the people that they can hire to develop these tools and it's quite easy i mean i'm hired to test. this and we have about a ninety eight percent success rate we're doing it to. uses manipulation deception and influence to get a person inside the company to comply with a request that request is simply to click on a hyperlink in email or open up a booby trap p.d.f. document and if one employee makes a bad decision and opens up that booby trapped p.d.f.

file for example that could allow the attacker take full control of that user's computer that's connected to the company's network and now there and that's how you see it is and with these types of tests that we do on companies we have one hundred percent success rate so what that really tells us is security is pretty bad and it's not really difficult for attackers to get into corporations into department of defense organizations it's actually quite easy. you know we're all hoping that new technologies are developed new training and educational tools are developed to help mitigate that route. but kevin i mean it was the most sophisticated. you know worm inserted into the iranian nuclear facility and it could and now people have access to it i mean it's pretty much released out there how to replicate this i know you're saying a lot of people already can figure it out on their own but you didn't really answer my question before about the threat that the government might use anonymous and

hackers as kind of the new terrorist threat i mean what do you when you look at this kind of ubiquitous organization like anonymous or not organization but group what do you think about then what the take downs of these government websites and really just this ratcheting up of cyber terrorism do you think about going to what do you think about that i want label it cyber terrorism i mean what i consider terrorism is flying airplanes into buildings. what when i look about like anonymous and lulz sec these were young adults. really really enjoyed the media attention from compromising sites and exposing information you know private information of companies. and even consumers and these sites that were attacked we were using very basic techniques it wasn't like this was an ultra skilled group like the developers of stocks that inflate and and as we all know the individuals involved with little sec were arrested they were old like nineteen and

twenty year olds using very basic to. media types of hacking techniques that are actually no big deal so i don't really think that is really an indicator of cyber war or fair or cyber terrorism i think it's a real indicator that there's a lot of loathing through no there are a lot and that companies. really their defense well thank you so much for coming on and giving us your opinion about all this that was kevin mitnick author of the book ghost in the wires. capital account is up next on our two so let's check in with more lister to see what's on today's agenda hey lauren hi abby i don't know if you caught the federal reserve's announcement earlier today they said. they're going to twist again like they did last september operation twist a program they've had underway to twist the bond yield curve they're going to do another round of it version two point zero carrying it forward this is could

qualify as more monetary easing not the huge guns that they broaden out in the past but nonetheless this is something to talk about something to figure out the impact it will have and perhaps more importantly what could come next so with this round being fired off in currency wars we have the man who wrote the book on currency wars themselves jim rickards is in studio to break this all down for us thanks so much laurel both limit checking that out and that does it for know for more of the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our to merica or check out our website or to dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter. and we'll see you in a half hour. i

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