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pledge allegiance to mitt romney or suffer the consequences seventeen ron paul supporters have been relieved of their delegate duties all because they won't promise to vote for romney so why isn't the r. and c. uniting the party instead of dividing it. so. if there's anything we've learned from egypt over the past year it's that no one is too powerful to be toppled now it's up to president elect mohamed morsi to get egypt back on the right track i'll tell you all about this this historic vote and question the global implications. plus in the battle between states' rights and federal mandates today's supreme court decision was
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a game changer as the lives of millions of undocumented workers hangs in the balance we'll see how the u.s. stacks up against its international counterparts when it comes to immigration. it's monday june twenty fifth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm abbie martin and you're watching. more g.o.p. dirty tricks against rand paul supporters seventeen rand paul delegates round delegates have been disqualified from representing the state of massachusetts at the r. and c. the reason because they didn't sign an affidavit that under penalty of perjury would swear their support for mitt romney's nomination now ron paul supporters are known for their rowdiness. were the was.
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cool with the her own rowdy or not at the republican party has never required an affidavit in the process of selecting representative delegates so why now and what does this mean for the convention to answer these questions and more i was joined by austin peterson director of production for freedom works here's his take. i really don't know because it seems like it's just one step closer on the reelect obama train because romney is really going to risk a civil war in the g.o.p. if he continues to do this and it's very disingenuous of romney to come out and use an affidavit like this when he has he himself sighed an executive order in two thousand and three reforming massachusetts notary laws when you look at this affidavit it does have some clear problems with the notary on it the biggest glaring problem is how can someone sign a notary saying that they will do something in the future if you go and you pay
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your light bill you have to pay your light bill when you sign the notary and get it signed so how in the world can someone say we demand that you get a form notarized saying you will do something in the future doesn't make any sense i mean the polyps here might actually have some legal ground to say no we actually get have some standing here you can't make a sign an affidavit saying we're going to do something in the future to have notarize so it is there is are some legal problems here and that is a really interesting point and think about it that way that is really interesting and especially in two thousand and eight when a utah delegate wanted to vote for mitt romney and said if mccain and the are in season legal counsel actually made a statement saying that they don't recognize the state's binding of national delegates consider each delegate have free agent who can vote for whoever they choose will sure absolutely but the thing is is that you know of course the republican party has their own rules they can make you know delegates obey rules that the state parties laid down and there's no federal requirement that says the delegates can't do whatever they want you know by strict definition of law you know
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we have a voting rights act which makes it so that anybody can vote for whoever they want in any federal election and technically the republican national convention is a federal election because what happens is is if you actually feel the candidate you're putting up a candidate for a federal office then you are subject to federal election laws and federal election laws mean that you cannot bind someone to vote for a certain type of candidate delegates can vote for whoever they want now the party can say we will have repercussions if you don't do what i want and they are a private club and you will have to have the. you face the music if you don't do that but you cannot say legally that someone absolutely must vote for someone and then bind them to that this avodah effort they would has no standing i believe do you think this is going to be a portion of this this lawsuit that we see against the current c four then to the nation and for the voting fraud and all these other allegations you think we're going to see this now integrated this affidavit could be but i mean all it could really do is just affirm the law as it stands already which is just that it's
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basically that you know that the delegates really can vote for whoever they want but i mean like let's talk about the politics of this right now i mean mitt romney is fighting not just the libertarian wing of the republican party here it was the tea partiers that were very hard to put these delegates in it was the people that voted for these delegates it wasn't they weren't selected by you know the national can convention they were selected by the state parties the leadership of the state parties need to put up what they need to deal with the mandate of their people when the when their people say hey we vote for these delegates these are the people we want to send to the national convention they need to honor that because the two great stories out of this there's this one young man who seems evan kennie's an eighteen year old a reagan style republican and he beat the g.o.p.'s most recent governor candidate for a delegate slot and you really want to disenfranchise these people carol kliros she's a western mass single mom a nurse you know she spent the last several months organizing she was absolutely terrified nervous giving her speech to be you know to become a delegate but the people elected her and it's very very strange that mitt romney
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would do this especially after rand went and stuck his neck out senator rand paul when stuck his neck out for governor romney to endorse him and say that you know that we would take these libertarians into the republican party and then ran to senator paul took a lot of backlash for that from his own supporters and so for mitt romney to come out and do something like this it says something about governor romney's politics that he's not interested in working with these libertarians in the g.o.p. and if so that means that rand's indorsement puts him in a more precarious position with his own. supporters because if they are disenfranchise the republican convention you can bet that i mean hell hath no fury like a polaroid scorned and this is a really bad move by governor romney because it's not just about the libertarians there are a lot of tea party conservatives who do like senator rand paul they do like the libertarians they do want these young people in the g.o.p. and if the g.o.p. does keep pushing them trying to push them out you can guarantee that they're going to go pull the ballot for gary johnson and they will reelect him that obama well how much more can they really push that i mean this is pretty ridiculous i mean how
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did someone find affidavit promising one you will endorse romney you just asked him and if you absolutely cannot do that it's just against the law what are people going to do who are they young gentleman that you talked about who beat out the other candidate yeah they get here i mean what is i could do to young people who want to get involved in politics and they see this kind of disenfranchisement happening it's going to it's going rage and i and i really don't want to see any violence any more than we have we've seen violence occur and you know analyzing ron paul statement to his supporters after what happened in the easy and at some of these caucuses where there was violence always done to them never were the politics instigating violence but i can't i would not want to have any more violence happen and if this something were to happen i could see the delegates at the convention getting very angry and who knows what happened you know we've seen it you know don't tase me bro we've seen a lot of violence done in the last thing that i want is there and to be to be a reason a cause for any more rage if the g.o.p. wants to have a have a togetherness if they want to pull everybody together to beat obama he's got to
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stop these kinds of tactics because it's not like he's going to lose the nomination what else are you going to say i mean we already know that the nominations in the bag ron paul has even come out himself and said that he doesn't have enough delegates so what really is this all about is it just to hold the embarrassment i mean we already know what happened in massachusetts what the suppose that. these people i think are terror their status i think that they absolutely fear what the ron paul ads represent which is real limited government and that is the last thing that the establishment republicans want to see in the united states they do not want to see an end to bailouts they do not want to. an end to wars they do not want to see a return to civil liberties they don't want americans hearing this they want to shut these people up that's i believe in my soul that's exactly what it is and i don't want to get emotional about this but you know i really care about these issues and i care about the future of this country and i think these polis do too and they deserve to have their voice heard of the republican convention it's not like they're taking over the place it's not like they're threatening any sort of violence or even doing in a sort of violence and rand paul has come out and stuck his neck out and endorsed mitt romney and said that these people should go along to get along with they should work within the g.o.p. do you think that was a good well i think it was
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a good move for rand if he wants to stay republican in good standing and be able to bring legislation like on the order of the fed the floor doesn't mean that i like it or that i have to go along with it and choose to vote my conscience and endorsement doesn't really mean anything other than to say you know he's a better candidate than obama which you know i technically think governor romney might be a better candidate obama but to me it's really two sides of the same coin and if romney pulls things like this i will be urging people to vote for the third party so right now do you endorse mitt romney i do not and i will not do so i stand on the same grounds that ron paul does until mitt romney starts to make real concessions towards a libertarian platform if he stops making actions like there's absolutely no way that a libertarian like myself could support a mitt romney i would not do it i am very i am i'm very compromising person you know i would take a step towards anyone who would hold their hand out to me and say hey you know what you can't have ron paul as president you can't have rand paul as president but you know we're going to do we're going to say to you you young paul he says you've worked so hard to take over the did work within the g.o.p.
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we're going to give you rana roland is the v.p. we're going to put judge in the no real libertarians the attorney general we're going to audit the fed and and that's it you know and then you know what i might actually say you know what governor romney let's do it and we'll go out there will be to obama when he does things like this he's just setting himself up for the reelect obama campaign and why does he get out there and put on obama's side and front yard right now because it's effectively what he's doing well let's hear from ron paul himself about romney let's roll that sound bite. your son senator rand paul has endorsed romney i take it you're not ready yourself to endorse romney are you. ready you're not ready no way. so there is ron paul seeming pretty determined that he's not going to endorse your nominee you just said that you would concede some aspects of your platform of the libertarian platform in order to see some other things happen like the audit the fed bill really pushed through i mean what are the chances that that that would really have any meaning it doesn't look very good at the moment i had thought that
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if you know that we had made certain concessions that perhaps the g.o.p. might be more accommodating and there is still time for the g.o.p. to change their minds you know that again it's there not just daily libertarians here they're also alienating the real conservatives who want these platform issues addressed they do want to note of the fed so i don't know what's going to happen in the next few months but these are indications that the governor romney is not serious about winning winning election in two thousand and twelve and right now with these kinds of tactics that make somebody say well you know four more years of obama versus eight years of romney we might be a better deal if we could put a republican senate and republican house in and create a divided government so that the conservatives don't go along to get along with romney themselves and you know all the conservatives right now who are saying oh you know yeah we'll pull for romney because he's a republican what's going to happen if romney wins they're all going to turn away from their libertarian platform just like they've done in the past and they're going to betray us so it may be better for the republicans to lose so that they'll actually you know speak we know
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a limited government rather than go along to get along with whatever big government romney is going to push down our throats or that does seem like it's to that point where people have to ask should we continue to work within the establishment or seek something outside of it thank you everyone can thanks so much for joining us peterson director for action for freedom works. well all eyes have been on egypt since its revolution catapulted the arab spring movement last year there's been a bloody battle in the country ever since and the title lection last weekend muslim brotherhood candidate mohammed morsi was declared egypt's first freely elected president over this weekend parties marine important looks at how the new leadership in egypt could mean a delicate diplomacy dance for washington. egypt's revolution began with tens of thousands into here square and it became a success shortly after washington sided with the anti-government opposition by stepping down president mubarak responded to the egyptian people's hunger for change america's indorsement of change has paved the way for the muslim brotherhood
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one of the world's largest islamist movements to become egypt's strongest political force their candidate mohamed morsi just won the presidential race morsi has reportedly called for a constitution that is based on the koran and sharia law in the case of egypt we're taking a piece of the board that was one of our pieces this is what the you tube was one of the strongest american assets in the middle east and for many years we've removed that piece and brought in some people who i do not think will be friendly to us. in this video film last month and egyptian cleric rally support for the brotherhood's presidential candidate. and we are yet to hear that. ah. that. the muslim brotherhood has many different factions many
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different elements they are a political organization but they also have ties to terrorism they're also directly intertwined with what's going on in syria according to the new york times cia officers secretly stationed in turkey are currently working with syria's muslim brotherhood to smuggle automatic rifles grenades and ammunition into the country it didn't work out you know what do. you know it would be. only it's not going to work out. his bike you know so all of. the syrian opposition seen here waving al-qaeda flags as received public support from the terrorist network and created what some call a defacto alliance between america and its number one enemy. critic saying america's campaign for regime change comes with the consequence of empowering more radical and extreme leaders in the arab world let's not forget that
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assad and his government is a secular government just as gadhafi is government was a secular government if you get rid of that and you create the power vacuum or another force that is as organized and as strong will take its place continued political instability in cairo has raised questions about the so-called success attributed to the arab spring governments in egypt and libya were toppled with a u.s. stamp of approval but with new regimes leaning towards extreme islam many believe america could eventually find itself in a circumstance it hardly ever wanted very important i.r.t. new york. conflicting reports on the supreme court's ruling on arizona's controversial as b ten seventy immigrant law is a split decision three provisions were struck down in their preemption of federal law but it seems the ruling in the eye of the beholder c.n.n. reported that parts of the immigration law were rejected well fox news touted that the supreme court upheld part of the law
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a line please to ask about immigration status and finally and this embassy bragged that the high court struck down most of the law here the provisions that were struck down the one would make it a state crime to be an undocumented immigrant number two it allows police to conduct warrantless arrests and number three criminalized work for undocumented immigrants but the most controversial piece of the legislation was upheld the show me your papers provision which allows police to question anyone suspected to be an undocumented immigrant and demand to see their papers this may seem controversial but other countries have had much more strict legislation dealing with immigration policy so how does the u.s. compare to the rest of the world let's take a look at the u.s. stacks up against germany first a look at the u.s. thousand and eleven the unauthorized mexican immigrant population dropped to six point one million while six hundred ninety four thousand people legally immigrated to the country currently there are eleven point one million illegal immigrants in the u.s. and deportation is on the rise with four hundred eleven thousand cases being
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reviewed so overall illegal immigration is down and deportations are up now to germany who actually leave the e.u. and immigration rates in two thousand and eleven was no exception germany had its highest immigration numbers in sixteen years last year nine hundred fifty eight thousand people legally immigrated to germany part of this was made possible by the country's new blue card which makes it easier for skilled laborers to immigrate so on one hand the u.s. is making life a lot harder for people trying to immigrate here while germany is welcoming foreigners for a look at the most recent supreme court ruling as well as a. gratian standards versus other countries earlier i was joined by ben cohen editor of the daily banter and president of banter media group take a listen what he had to say i think it is a reflection of the kind of mood in the united states and how as a nation it deals with the issue of immigration that it's a complicated subject and there's many different competing interests as it is in
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the u.k. as well we have a whole host of problems of cultural conflicts so i think it again it's a confused ruling. immigration policy in the united states is generally confused as well so i guess it's a kind of reflection of the current mood do you think it's on the wrong the right track with the ruling you think that this is a sign of progress or is it taking it back i think particularly the stop and the stopping and stalking policy that was the obama administration has made it clear that they are coming down on the side of federal law. applying so states don't have the right to violate somebody's civil rights i think that's a positive step i think the you know the rulings that allowed the you know. people's papers is very sketchy grounds could be cause for some concern when i read a statement that obama made in response to the ruling he says
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a patchwork of state laws is not a solution to our broken immigration system it's part of the problem why is there such a constant schism between federal law and state law when you see in the e.u. it doesn't seem like there's that much it seems like everyone's kind of working together and there's not really these inner cities state divisions really with their policies i think in the u.k. there is there are some problems that we have a new conservative coalition government but it's. primarily a conservative government and david cameron came in on a platform of reducing immigration and increasing actually police powers to stop and search people so. between. you know person and so the i think there is a different property and i think obama is correct in saying that you know having states decide their own immigration policy while they may you know on the face of it you know different states you can have different problems you know if your resume is on the border with mexico they're going to have more of
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a problem with immigration will move proceed from with immigration into some of the midwest which doesn't boardroom on a foreign country. but then again the you have the conflict between civil rights and which what supersedes what. i think obama was correct in saying that it should be a national policy the foundation is civil rights and in america it was a nation but with immigration so the whole argument is kind of. doesn't it we're going to as well not so i mean immigrant was so reason they would say you know it's just. i find it quite of a funny argument but i think it's there's a racial element to it as well i don't tend to get troubled when i come into the studies of white british. i've seen the people with dogs seemed out of the mind have a lot more problems than me well let's talk about france really quickly that's a nation where it's more about integration into france and the burqa ban and you see a lot of stop and showing papers laws there and it doesn't seem like people are making
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that big of a deal out of that country where it's more about you need to assimilate into our culture here it seems like more people are you know you're you're american but you but we're a melting pot and we have a bunch of different cultures and a bunch of different races living here so what is really the big deal i mean if this is happening in european countries and it seems like it's ok what is the big deal here with the stop and show me your papers thing. america again i think america has a history of i mean overseas they get into the country. generally speaking from a european perspective from so. i lived outside of. most of my life outside of the united states and i should find the race relations pretty good in america the relationship between different ethnic groups as opposed to someone like france who is actually not very good i mean if you. are a joke and from you know you have been a pretty girl it's a fraternity which is the you know that's the saying in france but the immigrants
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have a different saying which is it's about you know you got it's about here which means your papers if you see you've got to give your papers so you know i mean i know actually several french people black french people who left france because of stop and search policies and the fact that they were required to carry papers and were searched almost on a weekly basis and put in prison for not having their papers on them i think americans are right to be up in arms about anything resembling that what about in germany and their turkish immigrant relations it's somewhat compare it as mexicans and in america do you think there's anything to learn from the e.u. and germany and relations to the turkish immigrants here in america with mexican immigrants that's an interesting question i mean germany you have to even if you're born in germany it doesn't mean that you consider does it mean that you are technically german. born in germany or their parents are turkish that turkish the german citizens and that i think that would be definitely the wrong path for
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america to go down as a country that is achieved its success from immigration i think that would be the wrong thing to do you know bomb as. alarming it was up to a hundred things i hundred thousand young people who were for no fault of the road and transported to america by their parents. allowing them to take it apart to citizenship i think is a very positive move so i think germany would be the best more to follow when it comes to immigration so you think that we're pretty much ahead of the european countries in terms of respect civil in. liberties and respecting people's different nationalities and races i think in many ways you diffidently thank you so much for coming on for sharing your opinion it was ben cohen editor for the daily banter and president for banter media group that's an issue we've been covering in our t. here for a while now drones are many in the thought of having robotic flying machines of all
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shapes and sizes over america's unsettling to say the least what exactly can these drones be used for so far spying no you can't personally use drones to watch your sexy neighbor undress there are still laws preventing thomas from peeping and if you're caught they'll be no sympathy from the courts on that one but as far as the government goes well we already know big brother is watching courts usually don't recognize privacy rights regarding anything that could be seen from a public vantage point to keep your blinds closed if you don't want the cop seen your pile of weed delivery not yet so far the f.a.a. prohibits most commercial use of drones and delivery for compensation is not allowed but congress is asking the f.a.a. a to re-examine its policy so don't write off pizza delivery drones in the near future quite yet to follow technically yes officers can follow vehicles without warrants so using drones to do instead may be the perfect way to evade the recent ruling that requires a want to install a g.p.s. on someone's car this to stop it futuristic scenario is here and around the corner
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from becoming a reality and former self what privacy rights you still have and remember the next time you think you see a u.f.o. don't worry it's just an unmanned drone watching you well the waiting game continues for wiki leaks founder julian assange he's been held up inside the ecuadorian embassy in london for six days waiting to find out whether or not he'll be granted asylum artie's sarah firth is on the ground in london with an update. julian a scientist just spent his six nights in the ecuadorian embassy here in london waiting for the all important decision his bid for silence in the country now he's a man he's described as being let down by his own country australia and having exhausted most of his legal options in the u.k. and not going battle against extradition to sweden where he faces questioning if a sexual assault allegations and of course the fifth has always been that if
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extradited to sweden it would be very easy to extradite him across to the u.s. a country that still carries the death penalty for some of the crimes that they've accused him of chilean asuncion his supporters have always maintained that the case against him is politically motivated and i campaigned to silence not just asuncion self but also wiki leaks the revolutionary whistle blowing web site that has hugely embarrassed many western governments in the past now the spite having spent more than five hundred days detained without charge that hasn't stopped julian assange in the time he's posted an insidious show that's been running on are you know in a previous show we've seen him interviewing the president of ecuador and they seemed to hit it off the president of ecuador telling julian assange welcome to the club the person now in what will be his eleventh and final interview airing tomorrow not sealion his son to meet with the man that he describes as giants of
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the intellectual left renowned linguist and rebel thing can be and so we believe the street fighting novelist and military historian during that interview they discussed the new ways of revolutionary movements we've seen taking place around the world in the past couple of years i didn't see it coming and i don't think most people are coming to your commission of very. inspired activities. all of the united states so the the arab spring has been very infectious and it's still going only in different ways in terms of sooner or later there would have to be. peter reaction to the. bitter cliffs were the. four crew the past generation talking about the united states but the phenomena are basically world would some are you going to see his eleventh and
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final interview for his show on a let's say i tell you no less controversial and intriguing that we've come to expect from the man he founded wiki leaks he many say have revolution allies whistleblower and he once again has the entire eyes of the wells upon him in his own going struggle against extradition i was our to correspond surfer and that's going to do it for the news tonight but stick around the big picture is coming up at the top of the hour tonight host tom hartman will take on a panel of political pundits about a slew of topics ranging from today's supreme court ruling on immigration and corporate campaign contributions to the expected health care ruling later tom will tell you about a new law that gives thousands of louisiana students state voucher money if they leave the public school system and instead attend private religious schools so the schools even teach an alter of radical christian curriculum so how could such a law salute under the radar take a look at the bigger picture and
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