you know why you should care about humans in ruby ridge is why you should care only . live from moscow our top stories u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton has once again lashed out at russia for what she sees as support for the i also appreciate the comments came less than a week after international powers of greed on a peace plan for syria did not support outside interference or forced regime change . meanwhile weekly leaks began to fill its promise to shed light on a new light on the syrian conflict the first batch of emails from the country's politicians agencies and associated companies have been released and there are many more to come to the claims the materials will expose the west to property in dealing with damascus. and washington reportedly plans to invest millions stop

grade the military base that notorious kuantan them obey that's despite barack obama repeatedly promising to shut down the detention facility that's based at the site. next we discuss all the controversy behind the notorious prison camp with the british lawyer and university professor philip sat's. today i'm joined by philip sounds professor international or university college london and author of torture team and investigation into what's going on behind the closed doors of kuantan i'm obey mr sands thanks for speaking to r.t. so what torture techniques or interrogation techniques have actually been used at one time well it's pretty well established. what what what emerged they adopted in the autumn of two thousand and two in the u.s.

department of defense a series of eighteen techniques of interrogation arranged in three groups and the first group was. shouting and screaming. the second group upped the ante so to speak and included sleep deprivation the use of dogs to induce fear. and then count two or three the worst of all included waterboarding and the use of water to induce misperceptions of suffocation that document emerged after the abu ghraib images emerged and i was interested to find out how a country which has turned its back against torture could have moved to adopt these techniques of interrogation so i began. rinser two thousand and five to begin to look more closely through a series of interviews of course united states on what had happened and what had been done by the been astray should it was to spin

a story which effectively said it started down at guantanamo there were a group of individuals down at one time i did that then worked its way up the system what i stablish was that that's not accurate what had happened was that it had started the top and then worked its way down with significant pressure from the pentagon in particular people around the white house so the title was very different from the one which the administration had spahn how easy was it to uncover that truth i began by knowing that i had to speak to people who had not previously spoken down at guantanamo and i focused on the lawyers and i began to approach a number of lawyers and once i had found one lawyer who was willing to speak with me who was a staff judge advocate. who was involved at the time back in two thousand and two once she had given me an account of what had happened i could then go to the next person and say well publicly it says this but i've now been told by this person who

worked underneath you that this isn't that what happened would you care to comment on it and to do. could then begin to what are the implications of your findings mean you are giving your book that some of these techniques equate to war crimes is that right well i mean i focused on the interrogation of one individual a detainee number sixty three alleged to be the twentieth. september eleventh hijacker. mohamed al khatami the saudi national and i focused in particular on what had happened to him in the period november two thousand and two to january two thousand and three i reached the conclusion without any real difficulty that he had been subject to techniques that amount to torture torture is an international crime whether called a crime against humanity or a war crime it's prohibited under international more the united states a party to an international convention that outlaws it and the bottom line of it is if you engage in torture as

a state you are responsible and you are responsible to do a number of things and one of the things you have to do is you have to investigate and you have to investigate what happened and that has never fully occurred. even the administration of president obama has if you like turned its back on the possibility of a proper investigation to ascertain who authorized what when precisely wasn't a few bad eggs it was people right up the top and in fact the namely where president bush ultimately said he signed off on waterboarding and the that that happened in the summer of two thousand and two we now know it's pretty well established by a group of individuals with the president at the top don rumsfeld. colonies arise was involved in the process and various lawyers you know in the national security council and in the pardon of justice who signed off on waterboarding approved

waterboarding gave their support to waterboarding and that to me was shocking so what i wanted to know was how could in particular lawyers who'd been to the finest law school in the world you know to harvard do you draw terrific law schools how had they got themselves into a state that they were willing to sign off on techniques that amounted to them or their answer i think there was a sense of intense pressure that the united states was under an unparalleled i don't think that's a justification or an excuse or a reason but there was a tremendous sense of pressure coupled with the fact that a number of the lawyers involved at very senior level had no real background in the subject of international or the protection of the right individual and were very ideological in their approach basically they saw their function as lawyers not as being to give independent legal advice but to give the president the tools to do

what he want to do that's not the function of a lawyer in any society in any democratic society but surely waterboarding rings alarm bells with any lawyer it should have rung alarm bells and it did ring alarm bells in many parts what i established was that two of the major organs of government in united states were cut out of the process the military the upper echelons of the military were cut out of the process by don rumsfeld general counsel jim haynes. and the state department was cut out of the process and the lawyers at the state department and the lawyers and the department of defense the military lawyers the career military lawyers know better than anyone that it's in the united states' interest not to engage in this kind of activity so they were cut over the process. and instead you got a group of ideologues brought in to give the president the tools to do what he wanted to do their respective of whether there was a reasonable argument will for them not which individual moment the investigation

would use a shocking most when i was speaking with the folks who were down at guantanamo i discovered my book actually broke the story that one of the influence it was in the autumn of two thousand and two was a television programme called twenty four which is a t.v. programme about the use of torture which promotes the idea really that torture works it produces results it's a sensible way to proceed and one of the people that are interviewed on beaver confirmed to me actually unexpectedly because i hadn't really asked a question. she just said that twenty four was a big influence and it created an environment and so you began to see that. the connection between popular cultural t.v. programs and what people do that was shocking so is there any chance those responsible for went on at one time i bait well actually be held to account there's already some degree of accountability i mean there's

a group who are known as the bush six the six main lawyers at the top of the bush administration the former attorney general alberto gonzales the former department defense lawyer jim haynes some of the public justice lawyers john you jay bybee it's very difficult to know set foot outside the united states now there's every possibility that they could be subject to questioning if they were to set foot outside the united states and there's some degree of accountability but my position is this is a breach of law this is potentially a crime and you need a criminal investigation and that has not happened and there's no indication that it will but what about former president bush is there a chance he could actually be charged with war crimes i mean president bush has rather brazenly given the series of interviews in which you know he says waterboarding is right why did i do it again dick cheney said the same thing and has taken responsibility for it and that's had certain consequences in the sense

that some of his international travel has been limited he was due to go last year to switzerland that didn't happen he said because there were questions that in big protests when he's gone to canada. who knows what will happen over time you know one of the things that i was involved with many years ago was the case of pinochet . that was of course a different time a different scale but it took twenty five years for the wheels of justice to sort of creak into motion and one day visiting london he was arrested and so these things take time you don't know when these things are going to produce results or what's going to happen and you know hangs a question of responsibility hangs in the hearing on the other. matters now saif gadhafi trial libya's recently announced that the trial will go ahead in libya under their laws but given what happened to his father surely there are concerns over libya's ability to actually hold a fair trial i mean i think there are concerns about. liberation of

a country which over the past four decades has come to be associated with the high standards of criminal justice so i think it's reasonable to conclude that there are problems saif gadhafi has been indicted internationally i think there are good arguments on trying him in libya or trying him at the international criminal court but if he's tried in libya the proceedings have to meet minimum international standards that can be done in a variety of ways but you can't have summary justice but since the arrest warrant was actually issued by the international criminal court then surely there isn't any actual legal framework for libya to hold the trial international criminal court works on a basis of a principle called complementarity. the i.c.c. the international court in the hague steps in if justice is not done locally so if justice is not done locally there been there has to be an international trial the

libyans can demonstrate to the international criminal court that they can meet the new mishmash terms as they're free to try them domestically but i think they're going to have to show to the international criminal court judges that they meet those international standards and i suspect saif gadhafi himself would be rather happy of being tried in the hague where he knows he's going to get in a right and of course he's not going to get death penalty you've also written extensively about the iraq war and the legal issues surrounding that now do you see any similarities between the run up to what happened then and what's happening now in the standoff between iran and the west iraq went very wrong i think we know it went very wrong and there are very few people in this country in the united kingdom who now really want to stand up for iraq on policy grounds and. even fuel on legal grounds i focused on it as a legal matter of this not in my view authorized by the security council he did not meet international legal requirements and it was therefore i am in the eagle. war but i think lessons have been learnt from that experience we saw some of that in

relation to the we saw that the security council did adopt a resolution russia and china did not the time a resolution was permitting some use of force question as to whether they exceeded the mandate. but there was a security council resolution iran is working its way through the security council . who knows which way it will but i suspect the lesson of iraq is such that it will be very difficult to imagine the kind of coordinated military response with a large number of countries involved a lot iraq in the case of iran in the absence of proper security council authorization for that sounds thank you thank you very much.

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us secretary of state hillary clinton has once again lashed out at rush up for what she sees as support for they also had regime the comments came less than a week after international powers agreed on a peace plan for syria which did not support outside interference or regime change . meanwhile wiki leaks has begun to fulfill its promise said new light on the syrian conflict the first batch of e-mails from the country's politicians agencies and associated companies have been released and there are many more calls because he claims the material will expose the west hypocrisy in dealing with damascus. and washington reportedly plans to invest millions to upgrade the military base that notorious guantanamo bay that's despite rock obama repeatedly promised to shut down

the detention facility. for the latest action from the world of sport is next with paul. thank you very much and also welcome to the sports headlines here's what's coming up. the final countdown story william secures a place in the sevens and wimbledon final four she now faces the number three seed on the scope. italian job reports suggest fabio capello was in moscow for talks over the vacant post as manager of the russian national team. and the true in a row germany's are very greipel french is back to back stage wins at the tour de france but i was still far beyond country lara least the overall standings. but first tennis and this year's women's singles final wimbledon will be between four time for much m.p. and serena williams and world number three i've just got

a transco williams reaching her seventh final at the all england club picking up a six three seven six win over victoria azarenka an early break in the first set but are firmly in control the american service going proving to be far too good the australian open champion williams delivered a record twenty four aces during the match although the second set was a closer affair the protein time grand slam winner came through the tie break for a straight sets victory and a shot at title number five. to three hundred final i don't know any other way to come out except for my birthday once has been playing well she won miami. and she's been consistent this year more consistent than i have so that ari tells me even beginning i really need to go out there and be really get a lot of shots and be ready to play hard she has great hands and she does everything so well so if i come out floyd i want i want to win well williams opponent in saturday's final will be at nascar advance guy who has come poland's

first grand slam finals in seventy three years she overcame german and jimmy carter six three six four car but actually got in first grade of the much in the first set however the number three seed consistency shone through after that securing the win in just one hour and nine minutes i. always start she's a. tough opponent and hitting the ball very well and of course she's being very timid on the grass. so i think doesn't. think they really have to say there's going to. well later on friday turn of the men's semifinals first up is defending champion novak djokovic she takes on six time formal winner roger federer it's the sixth time in the last eight grand slams that have met at the semifinal stage having won for those previous meetings meanwhile the second match sees home favorite andy murray take on frenchman joe well three tsonga murray is

aiming to become the first british men's spinelessness nineteen thirty eight he has reached this stage of the tournament three times before losing the last two semi's to rafael nadal. now favor confirm that they are to introduce goal line technology football's governing body made the announcement following a meeting of its law making panel at their headquarters in switzerland support for such a system has been growing in recent years with high profile mistakes taking by the world cup in two thousand and ten and the recent european championship in poland and ukraine two different systems are to be tested at the world club cup at the end of the year and if successful will be introduced in time for the twenty thirteen confederations cup and the two thousand and fourteen world cup both in brazil while the english f.a. say the premier league could also adopt the system as early as the end of the year . in today's. it's a cause that you know we've had on our agenda for a number of years we believe the right technology helping the referee make

a decision over something which is a relatively rare event in football the school very goal is entirely appropriate while elsewhere fabio capello is believed to be in moscow for talks over the very compassionate russian national team manager however the country's football union have refused to confirm that that's the reason the italian is in russia russian media stating the sixty six year old touched down at the city's private room kovel three airports sparking speculation that he is to succeed former manager to carve a card the ex in limbo. it was linked to a job at russian club f.c. angy last year and was seen in moscow said he was in the capital to watch a ballet at the bolshoi theatre capello quit his england manager two months before the start of euro two thousand and twelve. meanwhile the russian international pavel pogrebnyak has completed his move to reading after obtaining a british work permit the twenty eight year old joined follow up on loan from stuttgart last season and scored six goals in twelve starts for the quarter has become a target for a number of premier league clubs however he only made one brief substitute

appearance in russia's disappointing to euro twenty twelve campaign the striker signed a four year deal with the newly promoted royal. cycling were under a growing pile of germany has clinched his second consecutive stage of this year's tour de france thanks in part to a perfectly timed sprint finish the german became the first drive it with more than one stage at base the ninety nine today sion of the race just a day after finishing first in stage for growth and produced another high class performance the lotto was the quickest at the sprint finish beating matthew goss one of the second and third respectively teams guys mark cavendish settle for faith while switch staff are being cancelled our retain the lead is yellow jersey and stays top of the overall standings russian tennis men job is currently sitting six thirty seconds behind. now to go for v.j. saying he has taken an early lead at the greenbrier classic some big names are vying for the million dollar first prize multiple major winners tiger woods and phil mickelson already eight shots off the pace words carting four birdies

including this on the eleventh mickelson saw his three birdies wiped out by a double bogey on the fifth saying meanwhile has a one shot lead heading into round two. now with the championship perfectly poised to moto g.p. circus pitches in germany this weekend the standings could not be closer with both casey stoner and jorge lorenzo on one hundred forty points after seven races reigning champion stoner who is retiring. the end of the season is looking to retain the title that he won twelve months ago although german stefan bubble will be hoping for a home victory the rendon meanwhile admits he's not fully recovered from last weekend's crash in the netherlands. when i could actually mean us and i just felt some pain but not not really big but after a few hours start to the widow of defeat and then when i came to the doctor. they told me that they really i mean swerve. you still cannot put their feet on

the ground so you must wait some days to to put completely the feet on the ground now finally with just over three weeks to go until the start of the olympic games one of russia's top swimming hopes you have gainey katich cain who was on the verge of quitting the sport four years ago has been speaking to artie's constantine the top of about his past present and hopefully successful future. it's hard to imagine that one of russia's best swimmers of the buzz the key and its biggest hope for a medal at the london games again you kurdish camp was almost at the point of quitting the sport four years ago after the moscow i'd failed to qualify for the finals in his favorite one hundred metres butterfly at the beijing olympics but help came in the form of a serbian olympic silver medalist i was desperate and i wanted to quit but luckily miller a challenge invited me to train with his coach and to dinner in italy that i would get so we could progress together and i wasn't really interested in swimming as

such i just wanted to see new methods of training from a coach who had learned in the u.s. i said to myself a new language a new country it's a good experience even if i don't improve so i jumped in with both feet since then karate skin has learned to enjoy swimming again and here's a result have certainly improved. he has said world records in short courses under a new coach demeanor and won gold silver and bronze at the european championships in twenty eight am and he won the moscow stage of the world cup in twenty eleven beating fourteen time olympic champion michael phelps and his training port beach which is what i feel i've truly become a swimmer and learned a lot in russia i've become a hard worker but sometimes i regret that i didn't leave to train a broader earlier the training sessions are almost the same but the surrounding atmosphere is completely different you don't get bored of the routine and for me

it's easy to focus on training when i'm away from home beating phelps in the olympians keep all where kurdish kids mother taught him to swim gave them must provide a boost of confidence however it's not his opponents that own the mind of the two time world record holder ahead of this summer's olympics where you could say you know i want gold at the european and world championships and i set the world records but nothing can be compared with dylan big. james the psychological pressure is extremely high and you start hesitating and wondering if you have ready for that of course i'm ready i've been preparing for this my whole life it will be the third and probably last olympic games for twenty nine year old cora to skin and russia's captain is surely ready to make a big splash in london because. well that is all from the world of sport for now you know and we'll have more light to hear we're not in the world weather is next followed by the headlines with an isa.

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