he don't come. here with our live from the russian capital our top stories u.s. secretary of state takes a shot at moscow and beijing claiming that the two are supporting also as the u.s. has a program gathering. pentagon mind montana mowbray out for a multimillion dollar overhaul its critics say the promise closure of the scandal ridden. seems ever more on likely. and russian lawmakers their view would drop the bill to name noncommercial groups funded from abroad as foreign agents a move opposition party say could be used to crack down on service. next to dark secrets of america's most infamous prison camp as we talk to

a british lawyer who's been at the heart of some of the worst cases of abuse in guantanamo. today i'm joined by philip sands professor international or university college london and author of torture team and investigation into what's going on behind the closed doors of kuantan them obey mr fans thanks for speaking to r.t. so what torture techniques are interrogation techniques of actually being used at one time i well it's pretty well established now what what emerged they adopted in the autumn of two thousand and two in the u.s. department of defense a series of eighteen techniques of interrogation arranged in three groups and the first group was. shouting and screaming. the second group upped the ante so to speak and included sleep deprivation the use of dogs to induce

fear. and then category three the worst of all included waterboarding and the use of water to induce misperceptions of suffocation that document emerged after the abu ghraib images emerged and i was interested to find out how a country which has turned its back against torture could have moved to adopt these techniques of interrogation so i began. roots of two thousand and five to begin to look more closely through a series of interviews of course united states on what had happened and what had been done by the biggest ration it was to spin a story which effectively said it started down at guantanamo there were a group of individuals down at one time over and it did then work its way up the system what i stablish was that that's not accurate what had happened was that it had started at the top and then worked its way down with significant pressure from

the pentagon in particular people around the white house so the tale was very different from the one which the administration had spun how easy was it to uncover that truth i. began by knowing that i had to speak to people who had not previously spoken down at guantanamo and i focused on the lawyers and i began to approach a number of lawyers and once i had found one lawyer who was willing to speak with me who was a staff judge advocate down at guantanamo who was involved at the time back in two thousand and two once she had given me an account of what had happened i could then go to the next person and say well publicly it says this but i've now been told by this person who worked underneath you that this isn't that what happened would you care to comment on it and the door could then begin to open and what are the implications of your findings meaning you are getting a book that some of these techniques equate to war crimes that well i mean i

focused on the interrogation of one individual a detainee number sixty three alleged to be the twentieth. september eleventh hijacker. mohamed al khatami the saudi national and i focused in particular on what had happened to him in the period november two thousand and two to january two thousand and three i reached the conclusion without any real difficulty that he had been subject to techniques that amount to torture torture is an international crime whether a crime against humanity or a war crime it's prohibited under international more the united states a party to an international convention that outlaws it and the bottom line of it is if you engage in torture as a state you are responsible and you are responsible to do a number of things and one of the things you have to do is you have to investigate and you have to investigate what happened and that has never fully occurred. even the administration of president obama has if you like turned its back on the

possibility of a proper investigation to ascertain who authorized what when precisely wasn't a few bad eggs it was people right up the top in. in fact the namely where president bush ultimately said he signed off on waterboarding and the that that happened in the summer of two thousand and two we now know it's pretty well established by a group of individuals with the president at the top don rumsfeld called lisa rice was involved in the process and various lawyers you know in the national security council and in the pardon of justice who signed off on waterboarding approved waterboarding gave their support to waterboarding and that to me was shocking so what i want to know was how could in particular lawyers who'd been to the finest law school in the world you know to harvard to do. georgetown terrific law schools how had they got themselves into

a state that they were willing to sign off on techniques that amounted to them or their answer i think there was a sense of intense pressure that the united states was under an unparalleled i don't think that's a justification or an excuse or a reason but there was a tremendous sense of pressure coupled with the fact that a number of the lawyers involved at very senior level had no real background in the subject of international or the protection of the right individual and were very ideological in their approach basically they saw their function as lawyers not as being to give independent legal advice but to give the president the tools to do what he want to do that's not the function of a lawyer in any society in any democratic society but surely waterboarding rings alarm bells with any lawyer it should have rung alarm bells and it did ring alarm bells in many parts what i established was that two of the major organs of

government in united states were cut out of the process the military the upper echelons of the military were cut out of the process by don rumsfeld general counsel jim haynes. as. and the state department was cut out of the process and the lawyers at the state department and the lawyers and the department of defense the military lawyers the career military lawyers know better than anyone that this in the united states is interest not to engage in this kind of activity so they were caught over the process and instead you've got a group of ideologues brought in to give the president the tools to do what he wanted to do irrespective of whether there was a reasonable argument it was all for naught which individual moment and the investigation would you say shocking most when i was speaking with the folks who were down at guantanamo i discovered and my book actually broke the story that one of the influence that was in the autumn of two thousand and two was

a television program called twenty four which is a t.v. program about the use of torture which promotes the idea really that torture works it produces results it's a sensible way to proceed and one of the people that are interviewed on beaver confirmed to me actually unexpectedly because i hadn't really asked a question. she just said that twenty four was a big influence and it created an environment and so you began to see that. the connection between popular cultural t.v. programs and what people do that was shocking so is there any chance those responsible for went on at one time i bait well actually be held to account there's already some degree of accountability i mean there's a group who are known as the bush six the six main lawyers at the top of the bush administration the former attorney general alberto gonzales the former department defense lawyer jim haynes some of the public justice lawyers john you jay bybee it's very difficult to know set foot outside the united states now there's every

possibility that they could be subject to questioning if they were to set foot outside the united states and there's some degree of accountability but my position is this is a breach of law this is potentially a crime and you need a criminal investigation and that has not happened and there's no indication that it will but what about former president bush is there a chance he could actually be charged with war crimes i mean president bush has rather brazenly given the series of interviews in which you know he says waterboarding is right why did i do it again dick cheney said the same thing and has taken responsibility for it and that's had certain consequences in the sense that some of his international travel has been limited he was due to go last year to switzerland that didn't happen he said because there were questions there should be protests when he's gone to canada. who knows what will happen over time you know one of the things that i was involved with many years ago was the case of pinochet

. that was of course a different time a different scale but it took twenty five years for the wheels of justice to sort of creak into motion and one day visiting london he was arrested and so these things take time you don't know when these things are going to produce results or what's going to happen and you know hangs a question of responsibility hangs in the hearing on the other. matters now saif gadhafi trial libya's recently announced that the trial will go ahead in libya under their laws but given what happened to his father surely there are concerns over libya's ability to actually hold a fair trial i mean i think there are concerns about. liberation of a country which over the past four decades has come to be associated with the high standards of criminal justice so i think it's reasonable to conclude that there are problems could i think has been indicted internationally i think there are good

arguments on trying him in libya or trying him at the international criminal court but if he's tried in libya the proceedings have to meet minimum international standards that can be done in a variety of ways but you can't have summary justice but since the arrest warrant was actually issued by the international criminal court then surely there isn't any actual legal framework for libya to hold the trial international criminal court works on a basis of a principle called complementarity. the i.c.c. the international court in the hague steps in if justice is not done locally so if justice is not done locally there been there has to be an international trial the libyans can demonstrate to the international criminal court that they can meet the new mishmash terms as they're free to try domestically but i think they're going to have to show to the international criminal court judges that they meet those international standards and i suspect saif gadhafi himself would be rather happy of being tried in the hague where he knows he's going to get in

a right and of course he's not going to get death penalty you've also written extensively about the iraq war the legal issues surrounding that now do you see any similarities between the run up to what happened then and what's happening now in the standoff between iran and the west iraq went very wrong i think we know it went very wrong and there are very few people in this country in the united kingdom who now really want to stand up for iraq on policy grounds and. even fuel on legal grounds i focused on it as a legal matter of this not in my view authorized by the security council he did not meet international legal requirements and it was therefore i'm in the eagle. war but i think lessons have been learnt from that experience we saw some of that in relation to the we saw that the security council did adopt a resolution russia and china did not the entire resolution was permitting some use of force question as to whether they exceeded the mandate. but there was

a security council resolution iran is working its way through the security council . who knows which way it will but i suspect the lesson of iraq is such that it will be very difficult to imagine the kind of coordinated military response with a large number of countries involved a lot iraq in the case of iran in the absence of proper security council authorization for that sounds thank you thank you very much.

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little. party's top stories u.s. secretary of state takes a shot at moscow and beijing claiming that the two were supporting also as the u.s. spearheads approach rebel gathering on syria. the pentagon lines one column obey out for a multimillion dollar overhaul its critics say the promise of closure of the scandal ridden facility seems ever more i'm likely. because russian lawmakers review a draft bill to name noncommercial groups funded from abroad as foreign agents and the opposition parties say could be used to crackdown on activists. does not get the latest from you know about the sports stats going to seems fifo have finally got what the times. they are with the times and tell you all tell us from we have been doing it for years and they said but no goal line technology is coming to

football find fully more in the hunt coming up in just a sec. great to have you with us this is indeed sports day let's have a look at some of the stories we're casting our eye over at this hour class on the ground. in the william storm into the levees final wimbledon. fighting fit to moscow gets a surprise as famous athletes including kickboxing starbuck to house a call lined up to take public training sessions at the city's legendary gore people. propelled into history the guinness book of world records launches a new e-book totally bonkers sporting champions we take a look at some of the eye catching. let's get the ball rolling with tennis where one of the most anticipated matches of the wimbledon fortnight is well underway

novak djokovic and roger federer of the peers slugging it out for a place in the men's final this weekend set a piece on center court with the score in the third by four federer pretty much going to serve defending champion and top seed djokovic evening to hold federer's quest for a record equalling seventh wimbledon crown someone amusingly it is the first time the two men have ever met on grass or wimbledon of course. after that last home favorite on the murray will seek to become the first britain since nineteen thirty eight to reach the men's this i'm going to start going up against a wilford tsonga who's competing in his second straight loss for encounter of the all england club marie when all is lost at the semifinal stage for the past two years to rafael nadal in. the women's singles final lineup became known on thursday evening four time former champion serina williams on the. set to do battle at s.w. nineteen williams reaching her seventh decider at the all england club courtesy of

a six three seven six win over victoria azarenka an early. rick in the first said putting her firmly in control mark and service game proving to be a stretch too far the is truly an open champ delivering a record twenty four aces during the march the second set a somewhat closer a first but it was thirteen time grand slam winner williams who came through with a tie break for a shot at title number five in london. whose final i don't know any other way to come out except for my birth has been playing well she won miami. and she's been consistent this year more consistent than i have so there are a tells me from the beginning i really need to go out there and be ready to hit a lot of shots and be ready to play hard she has great hands and she does everything so well so if i come out flat i won't i won't win williams opponent in salford is the side i will be i guess going to advance a girl who has become poland's first grand slam final list in seventy three years

the world number three overcoming german kerber six three six four it was kroger who got you very much said however advance because consistently would shine through after that screen a win in just one hour and nine minutes on. it's always. tough opponent and heating. and of course she's being very generous on the grass so i think doesn't. think i don't really have to say. football or fifa have confirmed that the are to introduce goal line technology into the game the sport's governing body making the announcement following a meeting of their lawmaking panel in switzerland support for such a system has been growing in recent years with high profile mistakes tainting both the world cup in two thousand and ten on the recent european championships in portland and ukraine two different systems are said to be tested their world club

cup which takes place at the end of the year and if successful both will be introduced in time for the twenty thirteen confederations cup on the twenty fourteen world cup both in brazil while the english f.a. say the premier league could also adopt the system as early as the end of this year . i think today is a. it's a it's a cause that you know we've had on our agenda for a number of years we believe that the right technology helping the referee make a decision over something which is a relatively rare event in football the scoring of a goal is entirely appropriate. staying with football russian international public pogrebnyak has completed his move to reading after obtaining a british work permit the twenty eight year old joined fullam on loan from start guard last season scoring six goals and it doesn't start for the cottagers becoming a target for a number of premier league clubs however he only made one brief substitute appearance in russia is this the whole euro two top champagne the striker signing

a four year deal with the newly promoted royal. baby due. to call for breach is saying i secured the early lead the greenbrier classic in west virginia the event also acting as a solid warm up ahead of the third major of the season the british open which gets under way in two weeks' time some big ole names vying for the million dollar first price multiple major champions tiger woods and phil mickelson though they are ready eight shots off the pace woods karting a relatively disappointing for birdies while mickelson saw his three part efforts wiped out by a double bogey on the fifth seeing them out to catch holding a one shot lead heading into iran to while a whole host of players sit right behind in second spot included in jonathan bird who ended with a career. now with a championship perfectly poised in motor g.p. this circus pitches in germany this weekend the standings could not be closer with both casey stoner and jorge lorenzo and one hundred forty points after seven events

stoner who said he retire at the end of the season is seeking to go out on a high and retain the title he won twelve months earlier up and coming german speedster stephan bravo will be hoping for a home victory so admits he's not fully recovered as yet from last weekend's crash in that. when i question i just felt pain but not. really big but after a few hours start to. feed and then when i came to. they told me that they felt. you still cannot put their feet on the ground so you must wait some days to. completely the feet on the ground. the kind time before the twenty twelve london olympic games has reached the three week mark and plenty of people have begun lending themselves to the cause with the first one thousand volunteers arriving at heathrow airport in london some of the following responsible for meeting greeting and transporting athletes others will be helping i

behind the scenes to make the olympic viewing experience a hopefully pleasurable one for the spectators seventy thousand people from the u.k. and abroad aged eighteen to eighteen are expected to make up that volunteer corps. multiple kickboxing world title holder but to hosack off has also been helping out but not as an olympic volunteer instead the russian has been overseeing exercise lessons with a few to getting moscow's public fighting fit constantine to top off met the man himself. is fast becoming one of the best books or is the sport his too often the must go i made headlines last year by defeating two legend. in them my exhibit is you know holds six different titles including the prestigious k one and w five world championship belt and now has a go if he's preparing through ramage with a man whose job he broke my bit is. it was

a great bow with zambia to seoul for those who enjoyed it i have some good news the story continues and will have another go either in october or december but we're both really looking forward to the fight i'm as motivated as i ever was when you mention mike meanwhile has been working with his social projects which kicked off in moscow's famed gorky park last week were unknown the russian athletes will hold training sessions to try and encourage more people to get involved with sport it doesn't promise belts or silverware of course simply exercise and a good day out the cross can program is used by police academies special military units champion martial artists and thousands of father swirled white the most wanted i've been training my whole life and you can get repetitive but with cross fit i can change my way of exercise easily this technique is designed for everyone

regardless of experience you can combine all different aspects and we hear all plan at the string training alongside famous champions is a great opportunity not only from a sporting point is you but also behave in you still the owner of the tools with you. and respecting your training is a true champion always does it concern you about our team. and finally to a guinness world record story with a twist take a look now at some of enshrined themselves in the totally bonkers sporting champions that's its name puffy and all fame high soul appliances rarely make their way into history books but this one dated jealous thing my farland throwing a washing machine four meters with few likely to even want to challenge that record plunging from eleven meter barrier into just thirty centimeters of water is another mark which is likely to stand fifty year old darren taylor breaking his own record jump back for a knockdown tossing things other as he threw

a live human being so. four point eight seven meters several pairs of challengers probably a few pointers for that offense but all coming up short. could watch that all day. next. wealthy british scientists it's time to. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy cause a report on our culture is that so much given to each musician minute in the

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