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around the world. becomes the. headline update us secretary of state takes shots at moscow and beijing claiming that the two are supporting the syrian regime as a. rebel gathering. russian lawmakers vote to build normal commercial groups funded from abroad as foreign agents i mean proposition faulty say could be used to crack down on activists. and the pentagon. for a multi-million dollar overhaul the critics say it promised closure of the scandal ridden facility seems ever more unlikely. next the dark secrets of america's most
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infamous prison camp as we talk to a british lawyer who's investigating some of the worst cases of abuse in. today i'm joined by philip sands professor international or university college london and author of torture team and investigation into what's going on behind the closed doors of kuantan i'm obey mr sands thanks for speaking to r.t. so what torture techniques are interrogation techniques of actually being used at one time well it's pretty well established now what what what emerged they adopted in the autumn of two thousand and two in the u.s. department of defense a series of eighteen techniques of interrogation arranged in three groups and the first group was. shouting and screaming. the second group
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upped the ante so to speak and included sleep deprivation the use of dogs to induce fear. and then category three the worst of all included waterboarding and the use of water to induce misperceptions of suffocation that document emerged after the abu ghraib images emerged and i was interested to find out how a country which has turned its back against torture could have moved to adopt these techniques of interrogation so i began. roots of two thousand and five to begin to look more closely through a series of interviews of course united states on what had happened and what had been done by the biggest roshon it was to spin a story which effectively said it started down at guantanamo there were a group of individuals down and went and imo and it did then work its way up the system what i stablish was that it's not accurate what had happened was that it had
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started at the top and then worked its way down with significant pressure from the pentagon in particular people around the white house so the tale was very different from the one which the administration had spun how easy was it to uncover that truth i. began by knowing that i had to speak to people who had not previously spoken down at guantanamo and i focused on the lawyers and i began to approach a number of lawyers and once i had found one lawyer who was willing to speak with me who was a staff judge advocate down at guantanamo who was involved at the time back in two thousand and two once she had given me an account of what had happened i could then go to the next person and say well publicly it says this but i've now been told by this person who worked underneath you that this isn't that what happened would you care to comment on it and the door could then begin to open and what are the implications of your findings meaning you are getting
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a book that some of these techniques equate to war crimes is that right well i mean i focused on the interrogation of one individual detainee number sixty three alleged to be the twentieth. september eleventh hijacker. mohamed al khatami saudi national and i focused in particular on what had happened to him in the pair of november two thousand and two to january two thousand and three i reached the conclusion without any real difficulty that he had been subject to techniques that amount to torture torture is an international crime whether called a crime against humanity or a war crime it's prohibited under international more the united states a party to an international convention that outlaws it and the bottom line of it is if you engage in torture as a state you are responsible and you are responsible to do a number of things and one of the things you have to do is you have to investigate and you have to investigate what happened and that has never fully occurred. even
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the administration of president obama has if you like turned its back on the possibility of a proper investigation to ascertain who authorized what when precisely wasn't a few bad eggs it was people right up top in. in fact the namely where president bush ultimately said he signed off on waterboarding and the that that happened in the summer of two thousand and two we now know it's pretty well established by a group of individuals with the president at the top don rumsfeld called on me psoriasis was involved in the process and various lawyers you know in the national security council and in the pardon of justice is signed off on waterboarding approved waterboarding gave their support to waterboarding and that to me was shocking so what i want to know was how could in particular lawyers who'd been to the finest law school in the world you know to harvard to do. georgetown terrific
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law schools how had they got themselves into a state that they were willing to sign off on techniques that amounted to more there are i think there was a sense of intense pressure that the united states was under an unpowered alter i don't think that's a justification or an excuse or a reason but there was a tremendous sense of pressure coupled with the fact that a number of the lawyers involved at very senior level had no real background in the subject of international or the protection of the right individual and were very ideological in their approach basically they saw their function as lawyers not as being to give independent legal advice but to give the president the tools to do what he want to do that's not the function of a lawyer in any society in any democratic society but surely waterboarding rings alarm bells with any law and it should have rung in our bells and it did ring alarm
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bells in many parts what i established was that two of the major organs of government in united states were cut out of the process the military the upper echelons of the military were cut out of the process by don rumsfeld general counsel jim haynes. and the state department was cut out of the process and the lawyers at the state department and the lawyers and the department of defense and the military lawyers the career military lawyers know better than anyone that is in the united states' interest not to engage in this kind of activity so they were caught over the process and instead you've got a group of ideologues brought in to give the president the tools to do what he wanted to do irrespective of whether there was a reasonable argument it was all for naught which individual moment and the investigation would you say shocking most when i was speaking with the folks who were down at guantanamo i discovered and my book actually broke the story that
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one of the influence that was in the autumn of two thousand and two was a television program called twenty four which is a t.v. program about the use of torture which promotes the idea really that torture works it produces results it's a sensible way to proceed and one of the people that are interviewed on beaver confirmed to me actually unexpectedly because i hadn't really asked a question. she just said that twenty four was a big influence and it created an environment and so you began to see that. the connection between popular cultural t.v. programs and what people do that was shocking so is there any chance those responsible for went on at one time i bait well actually be held to account there's already some degree of accountability i mean there's a group who are known as the bush six the six main lawyers at the top of the bush administration the former attorney general alberto gonzales the former department defense lawyer jim haynes some of the public justice lawyers john you jay bybee
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it's very difficult to know set foot outside the united states now there's every possibility that they could be subject to questioning if they were to set foot outside the united states and there's some degree of accountability but my position is this is a breach of law this is potentially a crime and you need a criminal investigation and that has not happened and there's no indication that it will but what about former president bush is there a chance he could actually be charged with war crimes i mean president bush has rather brazenly given the series of interviews in which you know he says waterboarding is right why did i do it again dick cheney said the same thing and has taken responsibility for it and that's had certain consequences in the sense that some of his international travel has been limited he was due to go last year to switzerland that didn't happen he said because there were questions that in big protests when he's gone to canada. who knows what will happen over time you know
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one of the things that i was involved with many years ago was the case of pinochet . that was of course a different time a different scale but it took twenty five years for the wheels of justice to sort of creak into motion and one day visiting london he was arrested and so these things take time you don't know when these things are going to produce results or what's going to happen and you know hangs question of responsibility hangs in the meeting i doubt it. now saif gadhafi trial libya's recently announced that the trial will go ahead in libya under their laws but given what happened to his father surely there are concerns over libya's ability to actually hold a fair trial i mean i think there are concerns about. liberation of a country which over the past four decades has come to be associated with the high standards of criminal justice so i think it's reasonable to conclude that there are
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problems. he has been indicted internationally i think there are good arguments on trying him in libya or trying him at the international criminal court but if he's tried in libya the proceedings have to meet minimum international standards that can be done in a variety of ways but you can't have summary justice but since the arrest warrant was actually issued by the international criminal court then surely there isn't any actual legal framework for libya to hold the trial international criminal court works on a basis of a principle called complementarity. the i.c.c. the international court in the hague steps in if justice is not done locally so if justice is not done locally the been there has to be an actual trial the libyans can demonstrate to the international criminal court that they can meet minimum international terms as they're free to try domestically but i think they're going to have to show to the international criminal court judges that they meet those international standards and i suspect saif gadhafi himself would be rather happy of
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being tried in the hague where he knows he's going to get in the right and of course he's not going to get death penalty you've also written extensively about the iraq war the legal issues surrounding that now do you see any similarities between the run up to what happened then and what's happening now in the standoff between iran and the west iraq went very wrong i think we know it went very wrong and there are very few people in this country in the united kingdom who are now really want to stand up for iraq on policy grounds and. even fuel on legal grounds i focused on it as a legal matter was not in my view authorized by the security council he did not meet international legal requirements and it was therefore i'm in the eagle. war but i think lessons have been learnt from that experience we saw some of that in relation to libya we saw that the security council did adopt a resolution russia and china did not return a resolution permitting some use of force question as to whether they exceeded the
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mandate. but there was a security council resolution. that is working its way through the security council . who knows which way it will but i suspect the lesson of iraq is such that it will be very difficult to imagine the kind of coordinated military response with a large number of countries involved a lot iraq in the case of iran in the absence of proper security council authorization for that sounds thank you thank you very much.
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supporting the syrian regime as the u.s. . for a multi-million dollar overhaul the. closure of the facilities seems more unlikely . groups funded from abroad. move opposition parties say could be used to. nation old ears breath at wimbledon of course it's all going and i. just want to settle. it's all going on
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right. but the have your company visit sports a plenty have including all this and more. laughs on the grass significant advance cancer arena williams stormed into the ladies' final of wimbledon. fighting fits moscow get to surprise us famous athletes including kickboxing star but to house a golf lineup to take public training sessions at the city's legendary people. i'm propelled into history the guinness book of world records launches a new e-book named totally bonkers sporting champions we take a look at some of the more i can. let's get the ball rolling with tennis where one of the most anticipated matches of the woman fortnight has wrapped up roger federer of beating world number one novak djokovic the book his berth in the gentlemens
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final federer rediscovering his top form to our class to serve over four sets six three three six six four six games to three the third seeds quest for a record equalling seventh wimbledon crown and thus very much on froch the match also marking the first time federer and djokovic have ever played each other on the grounds. so to the second semifinal were home for an on the murray is currently seeking to become the first britain since one hundred thirty eight to reach that man is the side of the scots play got off to an absolute liar against who will spread song taking the opening two sets and it's lightning fast the scores are changing at the moment it is tsongas who is five two currently in the third in the women's singles final lineup became known on thursday evening four time former champion serina williams on like nascar advance gets set the doable on s w nineteen williams reaching her seventh aside at the all england club courtesy of a six three seven six win over victoria azarenka
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a no. break in the first set putting her firmly in control the american service game proving to be a stretch too far for these truly an open champion delivering a record twenty four aces during the match the second set of clothes for a first but it was thirteen time grand slam winner williams became the tie breaker for a shot title number five in la. williams' opponent in some of the decider will be. who sets become poland's first grand slam final less than seventy three years the world number three overcoming german kerber six three six four those kerber who got do you think break that much in the first set however power would shine through after that securing the win and just one hour nine minutes on. let's leave tennis behind a move to footballer fifa have confirmed they are to introduce goal line technology into the game the sport's governing body making the announcement following a meeting of their lawmaking panel in switzerland support for such
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a system has been growing in recent years with high profile the stakes the world's top twenty ten on the recent european championships two different systems are said to be tested at the world cup at the end of the year and if successful books will be introduced in time for the twenty third confederations cup twenty fourteen world cup which takes place in brazil while the english f.a. say of the premier league could also adopt the system as early as the end of this year. so it's a cause that you know we've had on our agenda for a number of years we believe the right technology helping the referee make a decision over something which is a relatively rare event to football the school. is entirely appropriate. thing when football russian international public pogrebnyak has completed his move to reading after obtaining a previous work permit the twenty eight year old joined phelim on loan from stuck
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out last season scoring six. gould's and it doesn't start for the cottagers promptly becoming a target for a number of premier league clubs the striker though only making one brief substitute appearance and russia's disappointing euro two thousand and twelve campaign pogrebnyak putting pen to paper on a four year deal with the newly promoted loyalty you. could have done better there though to go off or if you just sing how secure the early lead up to greenbrier classic in west virginia the event also acting as a solid warm up ahead of the third major all of the season the british open which gets underway in two weeks time some big names vying for the million dollar first prize multiple major winners tiger woods and phil mickelson though already eight shots off the pace woods carding a relatively disappointing for birdies swann mickelson so his three under par efforts wiped out by a double bogey on the fifth seeing them on the catch shilling a one shot lead heading into round two while a whole host of players sit right behind in second including jonathan byrd who ended with a flurry of birdie. it's win or stay at home in time for the
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russian basketball team in venezuela david blocks charges putting their limping participation on the line in a quarterfinal match against angola right now the game currently into the third quarter with the score of fifty seven thirty eight to the russians two vs looking very much again control they're also aware that will go home without a limp dick take it if they lose the victory however and that's looking likely at the moment was put on break earlier. than one when the cleaners fought for long. staying on the hardwood where all season deals are busy being prepared in the n.b.a. point guards of the premium this summer with mikhail prokhorov. thankful to be able to hold on to williams the twenty eight year old set in a five year deal worth ninety eight million dollars price a phoenix sun steve nash agreed to join bitter division rivals the los angeles lakers while veteran facilitator jason kidd will go to the new york knicks leaving the dallas mavericks on a three year deal. the count on before the twenty twelve
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olympic games has reached its three week mark and plenty of people have begun lending themselves to the calls with the first one thousand volunteers arriving at london's heathrow airport some of the men and women here responsible for meeting greeting on transporting athletes all this of course will be helping out behind the scenes to make the olympic viewing experience hopefully pleasurable one for the spectators seventy thousand people from the u.k. and abroad aged eighty will make up the volunteer corps. multiple kickboxing world title holder but to house a cough has also been helping out but not the olympics instead the russian has been overseeing exercise sessions with a view to getting moscow's public fighting fit constant need to top off met up with the man himself. but do has to go is fast becoming one of the business books or is this board has to offer the must go i made headlines last year by defeating two
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legend. in them my exhibit is you know holds six different titles including the prestigious and w five world championship belt and now has a go if he's preparing through ramage with the man whose job he broke my beat is. it was a great bow with zambia's so for those who enjoyed it i have some good news the story continues and will have another go either in october or december but we're both really looking forward to the fight i am as motivated as i ever was when you mention my meanwhile has been working with the social projects which kicked off in moscow's famed gorky park last week were known to russian athletes will hold training sessions to try and encourage more people to get involved with sport it doesn't promise belts or silverware of course simply exercise and a good day out the cross kids program is used by police academies special military
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units champion martial artists and thousands of father swelled why the most just don't i've been training my whole life and you can get repetitive but with cross fit i can change my way of exercise easily this technique is designed for everyone regardless of experience you can combine all different aspects and create your own plan. training alongside famous champions is a great opportunity not only from a sporting point of view but also behaving yourself owner of leto's with your fellow athletes and respecting your training there as well as a true champion always does come sunday and by our team. and finally to a guinness world record story with a twist please do not try the following at home you're watching the up lee name totally bonkers sporting champions extravaganza high sold appliances rarely make their way into the history books but this one did john think most farland throwing a washing machine for meters with few likely to even want to challenge that record
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plunging from the eleven meter bar into just thirty centimeters of water is something that turned fifty year old darren taylor a pass among the greats while mcfarlane wasn't on tossing things i don't know as he threw a live human being some four point eight. seven majors not surprisingly it was the most popular. i honestly think i could watch that all day long on the whole your sport for whether it's next here in twenty four hour r.t. .
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